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FatherOfJesus:
Then prove it that I'm not the true God.
the God of Isaac and Jacob

Your being here on Nairaland is enough Proof!

FatherOfJesus:
Lol, you are yet to prove if God exist
you don't even know if he does first

I did Prove earlier and many of your brothers Could Not Proceed Nor Supply Any Reasonable Counter in Rebuttal or Answer.

ProfAmaben:
Your views, belief and opinion are valid, whether you know a good engine from a bad one is a very good skill, who can stop you from speaking on a public forum like nairaland? Why should anyone stop you from airing your view?

Go and put your maize farming skill into good use. Speak speak and don't stop speaking while at it.

I will, till I depart for as I was Warned, I therefore Warn lest any should go swallow up Poison!

FatherOfJesus:
Who made you an Arbiter of truth when it's not concluded that your position is true

As I said before, Every Soul Relies on Truth (Good Food) and not Lies (Poison).

Is it not Natural and Good that when a man asks direction to a place, that he who knows the Trie Way To that place shall point it out to him?

Or is it not Natural when you see an unaccompanied child, that you would seize him to search out his parents?

Or is it not Natural to warn a stranger that where goeth is Flooded or Obstructed and impassible and that he should go by another way?

It is by this that I am obligated to speak that any who goeth in the wrong way should be Notified that where he goeth, is Not Good, For So was I Warned, even last week when I went to a wedding in an area I knew not.

ProfAmaben:
Christians are always quick to rubbish the views of others, poisoned truth because it doesn't suit your narrative or belief? Who made you a disposer of ideas and fact?

I guess yourself. Keep disposing facts. Enjoy.

A Farmer knows the difference between a Maize Plant and Elephant Grass, A builder knows the difference between Sharp Sand and Plaster Sand, A Mechanic knows the difference between a good engine and a bad One, humbly, I (while that many of my people who should know what I do, Do Not) have learnt to know the difference between Good Doctrines and bad ones, therefore, I Speak!

FatherOfJesus:
Wherever two or three are gathered in my name, I am there. Read your bible

that's why we have what is called "Impersonator" meaning "Fake Persons" or "Fraudulent Persons" or "Untrue Persons" and so many other fowl expletives!

ProfAmaben:
No need to believe in whatever I say, you are not obliged to neither am I paid to educate anyone here. All man should believe in whatever makes them feel safe and happy. No one should look down on another in the name of religion.

A great day you should have.

I understand sir, just that I know every soul hungers for The Truth and Feeds on it, but there are Also Poisoned Truths which Must Be Cut Out or identified and thrown in the dustbins, so that only Good Healthy Foods of Truth should remain!

Which I am happy to identify and dispose whenever I can!

ENGINEERG:
But God is everywhere

Is Buhari not everywhere, yet where are you to find him, is it not Certainly and Surely in what is called Aso Rock, in Abuja, And not NTA Victoria Island Lagos?

So it is with The Lord, His Headquarters is spirit whilst All His Territories are within the reach of His Hand!

ProfAmaben:
There is no God. Religious people can kill for an idea they've never experienced.

A man's business was booming in 2008, we asked him how he made all these money in a short time, he said "God almighty has been blessing me and my family".

Fast forward 2020 covid-19, this same man lost everything, I mean everything. We asked him, nnam, what's happening, he said "God has plans for me, he is testing me like Job, I won't fail the test".

So you see, man would always give excuses and meaning to something he cannot explain. That meaning is God.

Professor you ought to professionally know that men are capable of lying just as you have now done.

But Truth is like the afternoon Sun, even though liars can and do say "there is No Sun", it is and it shall still be there.

kingxsamz:
Lol, all gods depends on their worshipers to remain relevant.

You do not have to be ridiculous just because you do want God over you!

is it possible for Camry or Corrolla to survive without Mr Toyoda? But can Mr Toyoda not survive without the Camry?

Like the Camry and iPhone, man was made for the Pleasure of God and not God, for man!

We are lucky to even have Him as our friend for which one of you befriends your Camry, Corrolla or iPhone like a child?

No not a One!

All your creations are toys in thy hand to be used viciously and aggressively and thereafter discarded!

But God loved each and every Toy until they Hated Him, Disobeyed Him, Challenged Him and even imagined that they could Do Away with Him! Hmm, what great foolishness!

22jumpstreet:
Don't you think it is a little childish for your insults, well I don't know what beef you have against him.

But I would like to know your belief concerning God, man, death, Gods laws, devil and jesus and sin and salvation..

Thanks..

Somvayina, you had to raise up a fresh moniker just for the purpose of a re-litigation?

Our re-litigation serves no purpose for you would not change your position and neither will i ever change, so we are left with each to his own position.

You disagree with me I disagree with you, we agreeably disagree with each other, We have Agreed to Disagree, End of Matter!

jesusjnr2020:
It hard but not impossible.

This is not exclusive to Nigerians... There have been times even in Israel where it was hard for someone to worship God in the open because the leaders have imposed the worship of Baal on them and killed all the priests and prophets that they could find.

You know about what Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego faced in the land of Babylon for their allegiance to God.

Today there's the persecution of believers in China and elsewhere.

To be true worshipper of God comes with a price. So if you're a true worshipper of God, you must do what true worshippers do because that's what distinguishes you from the others.

I know it's not easy from personal experience, but nobody said it would be easy, but it's possible with God.

So just try, make effort to do what's right, and God would help you with the rest.

God bless.

It is hard physically, no, not hard but Impossible (eye of the needle case) but it is easy when you use your True Nature, which was what The Lord was showing us and was spiritually telling us (which we call cryptic or coded).

It is a part of what He Expressly Said and the Whole is in What He did not say! That is the secret of the spirit.it is Always in the Unseen and the Unsaid, With The Lord.

But the disciples opened many for us, and these things were confirmed and affirmed in what people called the old testament.

FatherOfJesus:
I'm the God you have been serving.

Prove that I'm not

you have already lost because of what you said.

As I told the Op, God Does Not stay on earth!

FatherOfJesus:
fairy tales

we know that you are married to Satan and anti-God so you MUST say the things you say.

The question is which seed would you like to have in abundance, good seeds or wicked or evil seeds?

Ditto, even wicked people do not like receive Wickedness!

ENGINEERG:
Not minding the worship centers that spread across everywhere in Nigeria, How is it easy to enter heaven as a Nigerian?

Since when one is born, its corruption.
As a young student , from common entrance exam, and
At Olevel exams , most of us indulge in exam malpractices .And In our universities we take to examination malprices too and also bribe our ways.

As an apprentice we are taught lies by our boss to Make way and we learn how to cut corners to make profit. And even to promise and fail

And the main one is when one is working or doing business.

Most people working in a place don't rely on wages or salary alone, without cutting corners in these their place of work.

And As a business man, we give kickback and we give bribe to get contracts and use inferior products to do project to make more profit..
I don't think as a Nigeria its easy to enter heaven

First, heaven is unlocking of your real you who has access to God different from your earth you, who is physical and can never access God as you have Confessed in your statement above.

Therefore, you are talking about a Nigerian qualifying for the Kingdom of God!

One of the Qualifications for the kingdom of God is to Learn how to Perfectly Walk in The Law of "Give To Ceasar, what belongs to Ceasar and Give To God, What belongs to God"

IamMichael:
However, at the end of the day, this same religious Gods picks sides. They’re needy, gets jealous, are petty, insecure, emotionally unintelligent as they all seem to love violence a lot. They also love gold, some love roasted meats, including that of human flesh. Some of them even mandate their worshippers to kill themselves on their behalf, promising some better life somewhere after death. Of course, if you don’t obey them, a beautiful place called ‘hell’ is waiting for you somewhere! And they love you too!

And this is where another Filteration and Distillation is Required, For those who want Pure Gold and Pure Iron!

The True God had no need to take anything from us, for Everything, even Us is His Own Already just like No Landlord pays rent to Himself, thats just Downright Ridiculous!

IamMichael:
For some reason in the eyes of the religious, man is a feeble creature, vulnerable and little. But, a God is an all powerful entity. Man knows so little of his world, but a God knows everything. Man is totally limited in seeing possiblities, but, God sees all things. Over centuries, man succeeded in turning Gods to everything that exist in their fantasy in an attempt to imagine a perfect being, the peak of all that is to exist and will ever exist.

can you compare Seun with his bots, how little and powerless they are when compared to him?

Can those bots do anything outside Nairaland?

So it is with you oh man with your Maker, you have power Only in the place where you have power and the Only the Power thy Creator gave you like Seuns bots!

IamMichael:
When you read any religious book, no matter how well it is written, at the end of the day, it’s the same story of people giving interpretation of what they think a God is. Which is why you will see stories of the alleged Gods often exhibiting human emotions, and for some reason, human worship is always so important to the alleged Gods. For some reason, man is always needing saving in a universe full of zillions of stars

We live in a world which contains both the Truths and Lies but like mining gold and iron, we have the power to separate them.

And like we have fake gold and fake iron, we know where their Faults reside but it has been seen that people love that which is Fake!

IamMichael:
I mean, if you are a religious person, have you bothered to think about the fact that you are just making a God up as you go?

There are those who make up gods because they are god makers and there are those who Know The Mighty and understand His Laws to Obey Them.

IamMichael:
For a typical religious person, the central being of their worship usually represent all the things they cannot do or what their mind could not immediately come up with the answer for. God typically represents the one who controls all things and balances order in nature. This influences the constant need to appeal to the central being of worship in one way or another to help adherents alter nature for their sake.

It is seen that all things we see and experienced are created including "Good" or "Not -Good" is Determined and Controlled by The True Owners and Creators of them eg Seun and co. is in Absolute Control of All in Nairaland. He does his will and his will is done. Therefore, in Nairaland and the world of Nairaland, Seun is god and all his softwares, bots (his own version of angels) moderators his own version of heavenly bodies Do His Bidding!

Good Living Reason clearly dictstes that when we creations do the bidding of our God, it is reasonable to foresee that we shall continue in our living but if we disobey and go against Him, all the bad things that we do not like nor want He can throw them on us, even death or some other form of punishment that we do not even know just like god Seun can grant you access to post even above his laws and nothing will happen, he can also bot you up or delete you in his world.

But he who pleaseth Seun, Posted Continually! This is The Law of Living!

And those who love living and want to live, Obey He Who is God!

tobechi74:
We attach value to things.

Yes, But is Only To Your Creations! But Creations Do Not and Can Not place Nor Attach any value upon its Creator just like No Prado nor Yaris nor iPhone Can do so neither can they validly do so if done.

IamMichael:
Over the years, after serious deep researches about religion at a foundational level, i realised that it is borne out of man’s thoughts of what they think a God should be, not what the actual creator of the universe (that is, if there is such person) actually is.

Let’s get one thing clear here though, none of all the popular religious books in the world stated anywhere in their scriptures that they have seen God. This is an important fact to note. Of course the reason is obvious, but I’m not saying it here. There may have been claims in some religious books of certain people hearing the voice of a God and seeing or hearing the voice of someone claiming to be some messenger sent by a God. But, like i said, they’re just claims, which anyone can wake up one morning and start propagating...

As I have said severally, That is the place and Proof why we are creations.

No creation anywhere, knows it's Creator.. Until it's Creator Shows Himself or Part of Himself, to it., Exactly as No Corrolla or Lexus or Camry or Prado knows Mr. Toyoda or iPhone, Steve Jobs!

meobizy:
It’s funny how this forum is centred on reading articles then responding to them meanwhile the posters who commented didn’t. Lol. I copied a test here once and Nairalanders failed it woefully despite the article being two sentences long. I agree with OP, if a god existed it/she/he’ll show himself once in a while if not people will forget him/it/she.

That's what "it is Finished" Means.

The Next Scheduled Visual Appearance of God Comes Up At Our Date of Trial and Judgment popularly called Judgement Day.

22jumpstreet:
Good morning Dtruthspeaker, and happy Sunday.
I have taken time to go through sonmvayina post concerning his beliefs. He might be up to some spiritual nuggets but he sulks at presentation. I would like to read your own idea concerning your own beliefs on the topics he stated. Thanks.

Good morning, 22jumpstreet and happy Sunday to you too.

I will be happy to oblige you and I believe that when you went through his posts, you did see my answers in opposition to them, so, knowing this I, would need you to raise the issue or issues you are interested in, bringing in what sonmavayina said vis-a-vis what I said and what you wished clarified.

For I have seen atheist views, Satan lovers views, anti-God views, but sonmavayina's view is the wildest and the most outrageous I have ever seen in Nairaland and I like examining and cross-examining people's views, and Somvayina's fall was even as insane as his views which I did not know at the beginning until I was able to establish determine his mental health, and his putting his biography in a public forum, sealed it with me.

So, as a commencement, this is my standard of Measurement of Truth, As True as Zuma Rock is in Abuja Truth, as True as man does not live in water as a fish, nor eat stones or wood Truths, it is Always Always from that basis I speak!

Someone should please tell these people that To Go Take What Does Not Belong To you Is Stealing; Stealing and Trespassing!

MaxInDHouse:
For the privilege given to IDENTIFY Jesus' group during this endtime i'm OK! Matthew 7:15-20; John 13:34-35
Thanks!

It is Written "I know my Sheep, My Sheep know Me!"

MaxInDHouse:
That means you can only join the commentators you can't help an interested person know which group he needs to associate with as Paul urged Christians not to forsake the gathering of true believers! Hebrew 10:24-25

Well i know the one and only true Christian group that i can confidently direct any interested person to anyday anytime, and i know that all the rest belongs to Satan!

So you and i aren't on the same page!

I am very satisfied with keeping The Laws in Psalm 1 and Proverbs 1: 10-19, just to mention a few and Avoiding Sinners At All Costs! Thank you.

MaxInDHouse:
Just present the GROUP practicing Christianity in the right sense that's all!

The worship of God is in spirit and in Truth and Spirits do not report to me or any man therefore I can not know any group of persons worshiping The Lord in Spirit and in Truth only Persons.

And I see too many people who have grouped themselves Doing That Which The Lord Has Condemned Already and Not Doing That Which The Lord has Instructed To Be Done!

Preciousgirl:
Acts 7:59

[59]And they stoned Stephen as he was calling on God and saying, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”

From your statement Stephen was praying to God, The Most High and Father of All Through The Lord, Jesus Christ, Exactly in Fulfillment of the Word of The Lord where He said "...No man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (Or as we say today "but through me".

Your header was given me conflicting information as though you were attempting to correct that some people pray to The Lord instead of God!

MaxInDHouse:
The bolded is a misconception Sir!

The problem Satan created for Bible readers is to remove God's name from the scriptures and to replace it with the titles "God or Lord"
There is a difference between the name of a person and his title, for instance the title "President" can be used for the ruler of USA as well as the ruler of Gambia (West Africa) but how many people on this planet know that there is a country called Gambia talkless the name of the President in that country?
Ordinarily at the mention of the name "Trump" even my little grandson knows that's the name of the President of America.
So Satan confused the interpreters of the Bible by making them replace God's name with titles, that's why most of you now think whenever you see the title "Lord" in your copy of the Bible it is referring to Jesus!
Know today that whenever you see the title written in Capital in the Old Testament (KJV) what supposed to be there is "JEHOVAH" God's name, the evidence is clear at Psalms 110:1 where David said "JEHOVAH said to my Lord 'sit at my right hand until i make your enemies a stool for your feet'"
The interpreters of the KJV misinterpreted this verse rendering it "The LORD said to my Lord"
Apostle Peter later quoted this verse explaining that it was JEHOVAH who spoke to Jesus! Act 2:34

Yet when the interpreters of the KJV got to Jude :9 they still rendered JEHOVAH'S name as Lord making it confusing for the reader to know that Michael was referring to JEHOVAH as the one who will rebuke Satan, but misinformed readers will think Michael was referring to Jesus whereas in the spirit realms Jesus is archangel Michael himself!

So before buying any Bible try to read the preface and pay rapt attention to what the publisher say about the divine name, most of you just pick up any version without considering the preface and when you come in contact with Jehovah's Witnesses who have taken their time to verify all these things {1Thessalonians 5:21} you want to argue!

I do thank you for your respectful opposition but permit me to differ!

This is the basis of my belief,

1) "All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth."

2) we do say "Jesus Christ is Lord". And in what people call new testament, He is directly referred to as "The Lord"

3) "Are you the promised or should we look for another?" Same Reply The Lord gave John's disciples, which is to the effect "Consider the miracles He Did and the ease.

4) the unclean spirits confessed that He is The Son of God.

5) Genesis 2:4 shifts from God to Lord God (why?)

Because All Power was Given Him who is Now God over His Creations (and wait for it)

Then, Lord God changed in Chapter 4 to The Lord, which remained throughout the Bible Except When He, The Lord, was introducing Himself to Abraham (and all of us) all the way in chapter 15, and Immediately after, He Reverts to His Name of Authority, which is, The Lord!

Your confusion stems from the fact that In Genesis God and Lord God and The Lord was used what on the face looks what you call erroneous or the simple readers would call confusing but it is No Error but A Deliberate Presentation Showing in Hidden Sight, The Greatness of our God, Jesus Christ by the Commands of The Most High, His Father!

My humble submission sir!

Janosky:
John 20:17, any human who claims he knows more than Jesus Christ is indeed a FRAUD.
John 3:16,36.

I am with you on this for The Father is separate from The Son as you Rightly Supplied.

But in Answer to the question Op Posed, my Answer is that it is the Son, known as The Lord God or The Lord in what people call the old testament.