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Christianokaro:
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I don't think there's a religion intended for evil though.

Even with Boko Haram and Police Murderings you still say this?

Christianokaro:
If it's regular for people to be hopeful like you said, why then do people commit suicide? Do you mean they do it for fun?

You know the Truth and you could have still asked your question without the need of imputing any inference on my behalf.

In Answer to your question, I Respond by saying I am Regretfully Compelled To say that those who commit suicide, do it because having examined their life in spirit and Truth, they know and have come to the conclusion and judgment that do not deserve "Eternal Life" Nor Any good thing.

And This is The Law
1Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night
3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

The ungodly are not so: they shall cry and none shall hear, they shall always be afraid having no peace and always in many distresses, under the shadow of death and drawing near unto the gates of hell!

This is the way laid before all men to choose in which way that they should go, The Way of The Lord or their own way!

Christianokaro:
If you read the post, you'll see that I said time and again, religion is being used to cause disunity. That's on the negative but do you know how many people that are only still sane by the word from the pulpit?
Do you know how many lives that have been touched? How many thieves that dropped theft just by hearing the word from the pulpit?
A lot of people would have resolved to suicide if not for churches telling them to look to the lord. It gives hope.

It is hope that gives hope! However, through the Bible, we were Fore-Warned that if we do not stop the Religion of Doing Wickedness, God will Remove His Hand from the world and the world would die.

Man did not stop and God has Truly removed His Hand and now, we truly see the world dying!

XXXXTENTACION:
Religion does'nt keep us safe at all

Infact religion is the bedrock on which extremists use to perpetrate violence. Without religion we would not have groups like ISWAP, BOKO HARAM e.t.c who go about killing and commiting crimes all for their religion.


If religion is what keeps people safe Nigeria would have been the safest country in the world.

The Religion of Doing Wickedness and Evil keeps No One safe, which is what you have even described up there.

XXXXTENTACION:
Religion or no religion live move on.

religion can be useful to thirdworld countries because it gives the poor masses an illusion of hope.

Religion is regular doing of things and it is regular for people to be hopeful for help and assistance.

Christianokaro:
By his blood we are exempted

No, Not Really.

It is Only Those Who Are Truly In Him (Raptured) that are Secured and Dwell Safely!

And this is the Law "I know my Sheep"

So I ask all those claiming His death and Resurrection, Does The Lord, Really and Truly Know you and would He Say "Truly, you are my own?"

FatherOfJesus:
Science is Holy Spirit having sex with Mary

Now by this, everyone can clearly see that you are clearly Satan, in Nairaland!

And your Objective, "To Abuse, Scorn and Curse the people of God" on one hand and to Pluck Up and Choke Up Any Unplanted Shoots and Seeds who are Not Entrenched in the True Knowledge of God, on the other hand!

LordIsaac:
The truth is the god of this world (satan) has blinded the eyes of the sons of men not to comprehend the spiritual. Except it be revealed to you via the Spirit's conviction, you can never understand this mystery.

He is Satan, he knows the Truth but he Must Always say it is a Lie, same as he did to Eve.

FatherOfJesus:
Science is Holy Spirit having sex with Mary

Now by this, everyone can clearly see that you are clearly Satan, in Nairaland!

And your Objective, "To Abuse, Scorn and Curse the people of God" on hand and to Pluck Up and Choke Up Any Unplanted Shoots and Seeds who are Not Entrenched in the True Knowledge of God.

Freestainworld:
That is what different interpretation of the bible can cause.

Not just different interpretation alone, we also have evil Bibles planted by the sons of Wickedness to also contend with.

imagrg:
I was born into a Christian home and have learnt to worship God with dance, praise songs accompanied with load music and shouts by the Pastors as they preach the gospel to members of the congregation. I have lived among Moslems and have come to appreciate their mode of worship of Allah.. I have witnessed severally how the Moslems worship Allah in strict solemnity and with so much focus that nothing distracts there attention.

I am wondering why Christians cannot adopt this mode of worship of ONE TRUE GOD like the Moslems do instead of all the noise inside the church and the routing of prayers through an intermediary.

Like the Moslems do, I personally believe in ONE TRUE GOD and I worship HIM in faithfulness to all I do and in obedience to HIS COMMANDMENT.

Because, The Body is Many. The leg can not clap but it can dance, whlie the hand can not dance but it can be lifted High To The Lord, God!

However in our members, there are those who are Diseased and Cancerous who ought to be Cut off, unfortunately, they have increased and have Sickened the Body Unto Death!

Christianokaro:
We live in a time where the very essence of religion be it Christianity, Islam or even traditional is questioned. A time where mostly only the division factor is highlighted.

Well, not to discredit the fact that time and again, religion is being used as a tool for propaganda by desperate clerics and politicians alike but what we cannot take away from religion is this;

In a society like ours where majority of the population has and are still being failed by government, leaders and even society. A time where the very essence of reproduction is questioned by the common man as to why bring an innocent child into a nation like our's, where it seems like there's no future in view, religion becomes the major restorer of hope, vision, sanity, and even faith in what looks like a failed state.

The pastors might not be perfect just like you aren't perfect. But that doesn't take away the function of the church. Take away the church and I tell you suicide will be on the high, same goes crime.

Here's my own 2 cents today. Hope we all went to church?

All you have said just puts meaning and declares the Truth of the Word of God when he said "And the earth shall be darkened"

No place on the face of the earth is good!

FatherOfJesus:
exactly how it happened

And yet Another change of Post! Going To and Fro Seeking listeners.

sonmvayina:
After I have read the bible from the beginning for myself I understood it, I also had the Jewish rabbi to guide me, something they don't do for outsiders. I discovered that most of their belief are similar to our own culture and tradition(odinani and omenala). So I have embraced my roots and heritage. The only reason I quote the old testament is because that is what most people know and the fact that most come from a Christian back ground. The Igbo odinani is almost similar to the Jewish Laws and custom as contained in their Torah. The stories might differ but the core message in consistent and the same.

1. God:
God is the creator of heaven and earth. In our Igbo language we call him Chukwu. The Jews calls him Hashem. Same being different nomenclature. God is the totality of the consciousness of the universe fully embodied and personified. There is only one creator hence it is called a universe..He is the creator of both light and darkness and the Lord of both..

I am here, you can stop laying your history now, I understood it since, and I knew where it came from and I know it's end which is why I know exactly how to Take You Down Any time.

sonmvayina:
I decided to create this thread to clear the air on my beliefs. This is going to be the last thread I create, I will not cease to comment on thread I find interesting.
I created this thread basically to educate Dtruthspeaker, kobojonkie, and some others who have been following my comments on this section on my core beliefs . please for those who wish to join, your can comment on the issues raised not on my person..
Let me start by introducing my self. I am Sonmuayina Elumeze, from oshimili north, local government area of delta state. I have a first degree in chemical engineering from the university of Benin in 2002, I also went to a primary and secondary school most people only dream of going. After my mandatory youth service in kogi state I proceeded to the south Chelsea college in London for a post graduate degree in computer application in engineering. I only return in 2016 to take up the family business in property development in Benin city Edo state. I also have a private nursery and primary school in Benin city. I am married with two children, one from my baby mama, one from my wife..I am presently running a masters degree in chemical engineering in uniben as I am still interested in engineering.
I grew up in a catholic family but we did not really take it serious so I am very good knowledge in Christianity and its history..
My journey to self discovery started in 2009 , where I was doing a part time job in East ham. We where having a normal banter and discussion when one of our client, a lady from Jamaica said "Africans and especially Nigerians are the only people that worships a God that does not look like them, a god that was used to enslave them for that matter ". My inquisitive mind was activated on that day and I decided to research on christian origins. This research took me to Westminster cathedral and st Paul's church both in the heart of London. It was then I discovered that Christianity and Jesus was just a Nicean creation. He was created on the other of emperor Constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire. He gathered presbyters to Nicea. A gathering that involved no Jews, if not for anything, at least to lend their voice in explaining their scriptures.
As luck would have it, I moved to an apartment in Neasden which was owned by a Jewish rabbi. I told him about Jesu's and he shivered in contempt. I ask why they don't reverence him and he decided to take me on the long road and explained to me why they don't and why it is idolatry which God forbade them from partaking in and why jesus has got nothing to do with their God and why he can't be the messiah because he did not fulfill even one of the requirement.it was then I took time to read the bible from the beginning and discover this for my self. So my beliefs will come next after this introduction.. Thank you.

Oh! When you speak like this, I can not help but reconsider if you Truly Lost Reasoning abilities. But I think I now see what is wrong with you as revealed by your dossier above.

First, you really did not have any deep opinion about God before England and based on the Foolishness of the Jaimacan, you thought she was Right and it Set you the Foundation of your Present Belief.

Which I have torn you down Severally and you see that you Do Not Stand.

And the Error of Your Foundation is because
1) You are too physical and you do not know how to Discern or Percieve (Which is the Use of the spirit God gives us) and of course you did not trust your spirit)

Which is a shame because you went to Uniben, and lived in Benin and yet because you did not pay any attention to the Bible, (which of course you would not because Catholics Do Not Really Use the Bible, but bulletins, which contains nothing and is tasteless, a paper for the dead to deceive themselves and others too that they read the Bible), you did not acquire the benefit that residing in Benin gives.

2) In being too physical, how then can you have the Spirit of Truth, which Reveals All Things, Distilling All Lies of whatever Deceitful and flowery name eg half-truths, Untruths, falsehoods etc from TRUTH Itself.

This is even the first part of your problem before we even begin to consider the other parts of your problem which regular folks have.

FatherOfJesus:
how it happened

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See, Change Of Post and Abandonment of Issue

Anyway, I understand, you are just vexed and you
can not believe how Right And Accurate the Bible Is whereas you had greatly desired that it was Wrong! I understand Rant On, it's your Right!

FatherOfJesus:
your book is full of lies.

Lie upon lies for gullible people. How can you create the sun on forth day?
How did you calculate the first 3 days?

only idiotss believe such nonsense

You are the one ridiculing yourself, screaming like one who is mad.

Tell me this, do you go to a child and his toys to check your health or you go to the Doctor? Or would you take your beloved vehicle to a mechanic when The Manufacturer of it is Next door?

Yet you think it reasonable and proper to believe the toys of Children over The Manufacturer's Manual. Smh, How Ridiculous!

sonmvayina:
What did you disprove, ? Bring on your own arguments..
You are already on the road. You will get there

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I am unable to see the difference between your lucid moments and your apparent insanity and based on the Law "Meddle Not With Them That Are Given To Change"!

But I will give you my final statement, I hope!

You STEAL My iPhone and Steve Jobs Concept of Explaination which I FIRST and OFTEN Fired You With and You Were Stomped, Shocked And Silent (excluding the the insults you thereafter rained because of your Great Loss ) and you think to use it against me?

Think not that I know the end of that Concept?

And you think that Now I Am Convinced that in line with your Profile Picture, YOU ARE INDEED MAD AND OF UNSOUND MIND, I Shall Continue debating with you as One who is Rational? You are Mistaken.

I Now Understand how Mad you Are, AND NO REASONABLE PERSON, REASONS WITH HE WHO IS MAD!!!

FatherOfJesus:
The Bible is full of lies

Exactly what Satan Says!

sonmvayina:
You are the one believing he impregnated another mans wife to sire a son..how disrespectful is that ? Can you just imagine the level of condescension ..

God is the creator, Not part of creation..

Do you see yourself, Mr Confused, Mr Contradictions, Mr Many Mouths, Mr Double Mouth, Mr Know Nothing and Original False Prophet, first you say,

sonmvayina:
My dear, God is not a man or human being, how many times will I tell you this ? ...

Then you say

sonmvayina:
I am God covered in flesh.. with that your Egyptian picture containing more lunacy

And Now you say,

sonmvayina:
..God is the creator, Not part of creation..

Speaking both Truth and Lies!

Truth is One, One All over the world like 1+1=2

Liars and Lies Need Many Grounds But Truth is Always Always One!

So being an Ascertained and A Verified Deranged, i leave you In and With your dustbin, for it is the Right of Every Madman to be Entitled To Keep his Dumpsite!

Weneda:
Sodom and Gomorrah seems to be more decent than this generation...

Criminals are now celebrated as Yahoo boys... It is no longer prostitute but slay queen... It is no longer bleaching but glowing... no longer Ritualist/blood money is now Yahoo plus... Drug dealers are now called hustlers... An harlot is now a runs girl... Church workers now comment on immorality post in the name of freaky-freaky... It is no longer fornication but love making... Even rudeness is now savage... pride is now small girls with big God... Gambling has been upgraded to bet nija... Pornography is now recognize as BBNIJA... Premarital sex is now the main prove of love... Can you see how they have upgraded human killings to be politics? Most of these evil acts are done because of a so-called grace message.

Virginity that was the most expensive asset is now cheaper than a plate of food. I have seen ladies who denial guys access to their ATM pin, account balance, their birth certificate, but yet give them easy access to their private parts. Among all these things which one are we suppose to protect from a second party?

Haven't you seen where someone will abandon the good news of the Bible just to get news from yabaleft, operamini, Lynda ikeji's blog? People are ready to die for their political parties rather than the gospel... Where the youth pay more respect to the voice of celebrities than the voice of God's ordained prophets... They even monitor and follow up ballot boxes why the new converts in their churches are perishing because of lack of follow up...

This is the generation where ladies are now scheduled for hibs surgery, boobs sugery... guys are now going for penni's enlargement... All these are just to satisfy their sexual urge and boost their fornication spirit...

No matter how you chose to live your life... always remember there is something called death, there is a place called hell, there is a place called judgement throne...

Oh yeah, indeed, the world is suffering from old age Exactly As The Lord Said and it is time to for it to Die And Pass Away!

TheRealProphet:
Religion will handicap your life....free yourself from it!

You children unfortunately died even before you lived! That is the world you guys posses

DZTech:
bro, blasphemy is completely different from "defamation" na.
haba

Enlighten me and show the difference.

sonmvayina:
I am not a God hater far from it

You Certainly Do Not Fear Him and if you do not Fear Him, then you do not know Him and if you do not know Him, then YOU CAN NOT LOVE HIM.

And you did not know that saying "I am not a God hater" IS THE WRONG ANSWER! Those who Love Him, Know The Accurate Answer but All-the-Evils in the world, DO NOT KNOW THIS!

sonmvayina:
It is not possible..God is the creator , not part of creation. It like saying Steve job became part of the iPhone as the battery..How weird those that sound ?

iPhone Can Never know the Capability of Steve Jobs to Dictate what Steve Jobs Can Do!

AntiChristian:
So the holy spirit revealed to you my mind? Or you just became a mind reader? It is what you do to others that will be done to you.

You Did Not know that The Lord taught us how to Find The Truth Always!

And I even gave you an opportunity to lie and change your heart but you rather chose to confirm it, thinking you can deceive me that I would not know That Your Post and Query was Indeed Malicious

All the same, you have Revealed Yourself and the Great Anger and Envy For Christians you carry Within you and I can discern that Indeed you Are A Terrorist True and True!

And I did not know that you were Muslim until now, for I Truly thought that you were what people would call Christians, but you are Anti-Christian because of the bad conduct of Christians.

But now, I understand that Antichristian means Muslim to you (Not what people call Atheist or Juju worshipers or any other interpretation. Noted

AntiChristian:
You think I'm a liar like you who posts lies against Islam to score cheap points for Christianity wet no dey Bible?

Go and Bring the Evidence Where i, the Dtruthspeaker, has ever made a "post of Lies Against Islam" and bring it here!

Martian:
Imagine yourself performing some magic spell and turning into an ant so that you can impregnate the queen ant.

When Mr Toyoda created the Camry was he not Always capable of putting his whole self or a part, Inside it without first having sex with it, you filthy, dirty, pig?

So is the Unimaginable Power of God, in that there are No Walls, Restriction or Limitation but a whoremonger must See Only Whores In Everything!

Martian:
Why would a “God” who created the structures in that video care enough about some random species on our planet to chose some random Jewish lass for divine impregnation? All for a god damn human sacrifice. The Abrahamic God is capable of nuclear fusion, gravity, photons, etc but yet prefers to f#ck (the spirit of the lord overshadowed.....) 15 year old girls in order to rectify simple mistakes in his design. Sounds dumber than fucking the ant. Yet, this is the core belief of the insanity called Christianity.

Can any teach a drunken man to fly a plane or to cook? So it is with an evil soul for Good things are Abominations to Wicked men while lusts, viles and all manners of evil thinkings and doctrines of Wrongs and Wickedness are Great Joy to an evil man!

AntiChristian:
This can be inferred from the OP, so what's your biz on my question if you have nothing to hide?

It pains really when the knife you used in cutting others is brought close to you!

I got nothing to hide, but I think it is you who is hiding your sword meant to assail The Lord and His follwers in portraying your question as reasonable and a bonafide one, when it is Truly Asked in Malice, or Do You Deny that this is Not True?

If you say this is Not True and that is asked bonafide and in good conscience, then I shall proceed to Answer you!

So is it Truly Bonafide?

justosee:
but a lot of people still focus more on miracles today, refusing to learn from this example

Do people ever learn what The Lord teaches? Do they not do exactly what The Lord Hath Said "Do Not Do"?
Do they not, even today, repeat the destruction of the wicked unforgiving servant, the foolish servant who hid his talent, the unruly servant who beat other servants, going after wine, beer, whoring and oloshoing, seeking to amass wealth instead of Eternal Life, falling into one and all of the events recorded in the Bible?

Do they learn? No, they do not! They Go On Doing The Very Same Things Recorded!

Do they wish to learn? NOT REALLY!

Miracles was just to Prove that indeed, He is The Lord, for the Deceived to Know And for foolish us to have confidence, Seeing and Knowing that without miracles, a multitude of fools would not believe that it is indeed Him, The Lord!

Even after all these Miracles and Teachings, yet do people Refuse Him (it is not really that they do know that it is Him, but it takes that they are made clear in their minds that they really do Not Like What He brings, Seeing that it is Contrary to what they want.

So therefore, like choosing an airline or bus terminal, whether Lufthansa or Peace Mass Transit, they are able to make their choice and John 3:19 -21 is put in Effect (Rapture).

AntiChristian:
Did Jesus's God really forsook him?

Why Eli Eli here and Eloi Eloi there in Mark?

Jesus had a God! How possible?

Wasn't Jesus aware that he's gonna die for all's believers sin?

You have brought your own problems here, raise a thread. And of course you know the answers to those questions but you are here to do your own Judas Iscariot work!

DZTech:
kindly expatiate

Isn't it self explanatory? or are you saying that you do not know what "defamation" means? (Which I believe you do)

So, what do you have in mind knowing what "defamation" means?