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torkaka: As usual, "if", "we will","assumptions" and "fantasies"

If ever one is to write a book about how to lose a war be rest assured you will be the first to be contacted for professional tips!

Eyaaaa

I was just trying to help him have a better understanding of how oil for weapons work

You can prove to me that Igbos can't fund their war by telling us the quantity of our oil reserve

I understand your pains that your tribesmen don't have the resources to exert their political/military influence

Well I pray they do

But for now they don't have it which is more reason why you should face reality

Pls also note

Oil production is not the same as oil reserve

America imports oil even though she has a huge reserve at Alaska.

Omololu

What you should ask yourself is

What is the quantity of oil reserve in Igboland

omololu2020: which part of delta igbo z oil located,all d oil in imo,anambra,enugu,abia r not up to 500,000 barrels a day

When going into oil for weapons

You look at your oil reserve

What am trying to say is

You look at the quantity of oil deposited in the ground

Let's assume the oil produced everyday is 500 000 barrels but the oil in the soil is 500 trillion barrels

What we will do is to go into contract with the arms supplier that he should supply weapons worth 500 million barrels.

tit: 2015 will not be like 1966.
First of all, There would be no governor of the Eastern Region.
That makes group cohesion near impossible. At the same time, the eleven governors of the area formerly called Biafra would help prevent total breakdown of law and order. They would seek a political solution to any crisis.
What would be flare that ignites the crisis.

APC losing the 2015 presidental elections?
PDP losing the 2015 presidential elections?

If Jonathan wins in 2015, why would the Fulani rebel? They only have to wait four years to get a clear shot at the presidency and their man Sambo is in pole position for the 2019 presidency. It would be very foolish of them to stake everything. They might end up losing the Hausa kingdoms our forefather Uthman Dan Fodio worked hard to usurp. Any riots in the streets will be firmly and decisively dealt with.

If APC wins 2015, the SE will realign immediately. The Ijaws will continue the sabotage of oil installations and the low intensity guerrilla warfare will resume. Nigeria's oil riches will eventually dry up.

If Nigeria descends into chaos, a lot depends on who is the legitimate head of state. The Northern minorities will coalesce under the leadership of the Eggon for their self interest.

Eggon

Mrs tit

You think we dey joke for this forum

A beg we dey serious now wey Arewas don dey go gaga.

omololu2020: in d event of a war,what will d south east sell to acquire attack helicopter,mortars,tanks etc.

Sorry you do not know the mineral resources deposited in Igboland

Oil deposits exist in all SE States that of Ebonyi is called shale oil

Enugu Anambra has oil deposits

IMO Abia are oil producing states

Delta Rivers Igboland are oil producing regions

Its a shame you don't know this

Pls leave your enclave for other enclaves

torkaka: First of all, MASSOB and OPC are pressure groups that haven't exhibited any real armed military insurgency!!

Judging from your name, you are from Benue and it's a shame you know next to nothing about your state!

Starting with the herdsmen, their activities initial started in the iharev, nongov and masev areas, sacking villages with their unannounced attacks (this continued for awhile). Then they started moving towards the kwande and sankara area. Suswam (whom I so despise by the way) is from sankara, whereas paul unongo is from kwande. When these herdsmen moved to kwande and sankara (burning houses including areas close to suswam's village) there was a reaction and the herdsmen retreated and concentrated on the on the masev, iharev and nogov areas!

Now it is not my place to tell you what that reaction was (as I do not support violence in any form) but what I do know is that the area in benue covering ugba, anyiin and zaki-biam, there are certain armed youths who are called "school boys" by the locals with whom it is said suswam is pleased!! If you travel the route, crossing the river via buruku, they are not hidden from your sight as they go about their business in the open.

More recently, the jukuns and tivs in Taraba on one hand started a an exchange with the fulanis that saw many fulanis being expelled from wukari and ibi (as of yesterday, the fire in ibi was still on), what weapons do you think were used? Kitchen knives?

Surely you don't think the continious fracas between Tiv and Jukun (which has gone on for years, long before any insurgency or militancy started) is being carried out with brooms and sticks do you? May I add, the tivs and jukun conflict is more like an internal war between two tribes in open confrontation unlike the hit and run militants/insurgents style with which you call "experience".

My question to you, with what resources have the tivs and jukuns sustained their internal war(which is arguably the longest internal tribal war in Nigeria) with for decades

Like I told you earlier, let the war start first before you start licking a.rz!!

Those places still occupied by fulani herdsmen why haven't the school boys gone to dislodge them or is that place not Tiv land

If these schools are well armed, why did they waited for the military to deploy tanks as shown on TV

Do you know that Ife Modakeke Aguleri Umuleri conflicts that lasted for so long does not mean that they fought with complete war materials

May I ask you

In the event of a war

What will the MB exchange for fighter jets artilleries tanks etc

What will they sell to acquire attack helicopters mortars anti tanks aircrafts etc


Don't forget when war erupts no more oil money will get to other states and since almost all states are oil dependent how will you guys source for fund to acquire weapons

Think deeply my friend

IdomaLikita: The Elites of Various Groups in Nigeria today would be the same who would Galvanise and Lead Their People Should War Break Out!
Ojukwu, Madiebo, etc who played Major Parts in the War were Major Stakeholders in Pre-1967 Eastern Nigeria!
Its still the Tinubus, Arthur Ezes, Suswams,David Marks,TY Danjumas Buharis etc that would be counted upon to lead their People through War!
Judging by Antecedents, have the Leaders of the Various Region shown enough will to protect their people?

Has Gabriel Suswam, TY Danjuma, George Akume etc floated any Vigilante Group or Armed their People in any guise to Counter the Massacre of their People by Fulani Herdsmen? Apart from Ombatse, are there any existing Militia in the MB with enough Combat Experience to form the Core of a Fighting Force in the initial Skirmishes that may Ensue b4 a Full blown war?
MEND, OPC, MASSOB, etc can easily be called upon Quickly to hold fort while Fresh men are being Trained! Can the same be said of any MB group?
Who are the Politicians that would Lead the MB in War Time? Is it the Foolish Old Men being bleeped from Behind by the ACF?
Where are the Resources to fight the War?
Will the same People who find it hard to invest in their People in Peace Time,be counted upon to deliver their People when Hell breaks lose?

Torkaka, Answer me!

Have you not notice that he is a Yoruba boy masquerading as middle belt

I had to point to him that Yorubas don't have a means to acquire weapons save the oil of the Ilajes and Ishekiris

He fails to realise that the billionaires of the MB derive their wealth from the oil wells of ND and would loose those oil wells in the event of a breakup


My brother these are those who think they can revive old anti-Igbo sentiments not knowing that the MB and ND now know their true tormentors

He fails to realise that every true Biafran/ND have come to realise that the security of the MB is our security

Brother

We will deploy 10million troops to stop the invasion of MB.

The security of MB is our security.

I rest my case with these few words

TODAY IS YOUR NEIGHBOUR ENEMY STRANGER

TOMORROW IT MIGHT BE YOU


Support justice all the time so that the stones of injustice are not hurled against you in the future

To finally seal the coffin with nails

If Awo demanded for bank teller check document before a person is given back his or her money,

Wouldn't the bank have a list to verify the authencity of that teller and the information on that teller

If such list exist, why didn't he use it to refund back peoples' money

emiye: Midwest was not part of biafra., the conditions to retrieve your money back was clearly spelt out, but could not be met by the biafrans.

At least you agreed that Awo found a satisfactory solution to users of CBN Benin and other banks in the Midwest

Eya

You just confirmed that Awo deliberately gave out 20pounds to achieve his aim as stated several posts before.

torkaka: And they still have not learnt a thing! With their unfertile lands, they are still beating war drums!!

You left answering my question on Midwesterners and CBN Benin

That's good

It shows that you don't have an answer to my question

Proving once more that Awo's policy was one of the unglorious roberry of the 20TH century on the African continent

As for war

We the real Igbos/NDs will defend the MB region will more than 10million troops with state of the art war tech if the Arewas pushes southward

Thank you

GEJ TILL 2019

emiye: Lessons for you not to go to war, be ready for the repercussion.


More than 3 million lives in multiple folds could have been lost, if Awolowo had not devised a means to end the war abruptly.

You can help TORKAKA answer the question I asked him above

torkaka: My answer to you remains the same. Clearly you have no clue how our banks operated in the past, the same way you have no clue about anything!

You see your life

CBN Benin was ransacked and burnt according to you guys claim

But the people of Midwest never complained of non-payment of their deposited cash.

Does it not occur to you that something is wrong somewhere

How were the midwesterners refunded their cash deposit despite the ransacking and burning of CBN Benin

@TORKAKA

CBN Benin

Was desecrated


Why did we not hear of Mid Westerners complaining despite the looting and burning of CBN Benin by Biafran forces as claimed by you guys

Or did the Biafrans never burnt the documents in CBN benin

If they do as claimed by you guys, why didn't we hear of non-payment of Midwesterners whose records were lost during the sacking of CBN Benin.

torkaka: Please I beg you, do "google" and read about the structure of our banking system from 1960-1980!!

I said it before and I'll say it again, everything about you is fantasy!

Answer the questions I added when I modify my post

EasternLeopard: May I ask you

If they don't have a copy of their customers bank statements, why were the records of other Nigerians not affected.
Don't forget that Biafrans occupied Midwest and we never heard of Midwesterners sufferring the same fate of destroyed bank documents despite the calamitiy that occurred to the CBN at Benin.

@TORKAKA

Answer my questions above

torkaka: Really? That's the only difference? You are a huge joke!!

So are you when you come online to say that the banks of those days do not have a copy of their customers record at their headoffice and central vault.


May I ask you

If they don't have a copy of their customers bank statements, why were the records of other Nigerians not affected.

Don't forget that Biafrans occupied Midwest and we never heard of Midwesterners sufferring the same fate of destroyed bank documents despite the calamitiy that occurred to the CBN at Benin.

SamIkenna: But you want 5% first-line-of-charge/terror incentive from our national purse and wonder why we're standing in your way...
Who's the beggar and Almajiri now? How do you like us now?

They should totally oppose them getting that 5%.

torkaka: Real time banking wasn't a 1960's thing!!

The only difference then and now is computerization

Son we all make mistakes but it is a dishonourable thing to deny them.


So accept it that Awo did it to empower you guys to a position of strength to takeover, secede or defend your independence.

Ladystewie: ok

Sorry for the harsh word

Its just that I expected Southerner to be more wiser in todays Nigeria especially now that some people are desperate for power.

emiye: Can you verify with no records. Records were lost, nothing to verify claims, dont get unduely emotional over the painful truth.


Awolowo's words TWENTY POUNDS POLICY

The capital of Nigeria then was Lagos


Most banks headoffice will be in Lagos

Therefore a copy of their bank statement will be in the headoffice and central vault.


Son

The point you don't know is that Awo realised that Yorubas were not financially positioned to take over Nigeria or secede or protect their independence. All he needed to do was to empower his people by hook or crook. Which he achieved through indigenization and 20pounds policies.

The same Awo who said West was not in a position to secede was the same Awo who planned an armed insurrection 29 years later.

Son think deep

tonychristopher: Lol these islamist must be confused they write letters OK let's see how they can make it.

they bombed Lagos and ife..well the states said its dynamite and gas cylinder explosion ..I still laugh

I think south East and south south will be their waterloo cos these regions are christian regions with no sympathy for islamist

they should try it and we can say bye bye to this madness called ......

Nigeria

They think it is some part of Nigeria that told their people that it was gas explosion thinking they are doing their people a favour


Akwa Ibom acted wisely because terrorists and spies find it difficult to operate in a security conscious environment

Ladystewie: erm.. oga, if u have to disagree wif ma comment, you do so without resorting to any form of insults, like some really sensible people did...
warning

Don't make comments that can ignite a war

You asked a silly question without putting into consideration the f oolish thinking pattern of Northerners.

What if those guys had seen it as witch hunting and had gone berserck killing Southerners up North.

Think about other peoples possible perception and reaction before asking such questions

Am dissappointed in you to think a State government will make such comment without the knowledge of SSS.

TellBlazer: She has the right as a citizen of this country to ask question,give suggestion and give advice.Is done in every democratic setting.Mr clown from the jungle.

Mr smart you don't come online to accuse government of not doing consultation with appropriate quarters before acting

Do you know how many Northerners who after reading her comment will think the Akwa Ibom raised a false alarm in order to witch hunt them

Pls think not of your comment but the other person perception of it and possible reaction.

kel4soft: Apparently because of some minority of your people have tainted the country black. Go ask why Nigerians are treated as shiiit in Singapore and why they stop issuing citizenship in that country. Ask why Malaysians are avoiding and hate Nigerians. They blame us for corrupting their countries. Who are the tribes mostly involve in these?

Then your fathers were foolish to have wasted lives to unite you with those people.

TellBlazer: She is intituled to her opinion,you are the foolish one here.

You think the government won't have contacted SSS before alarming the public

Wasted free education

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] The myopic ones will not be at strength to do anything about the situation...@submarine warfare,we never reach that level....LOL.. [/color]

To build submarines is not difficult

Its just that it will take some time to perfect it.

But it won't take long if we invest in mini-macro submarines

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] You are gettin the whole thing wrong.None of the prime igbo military actions stated above in the Southwest involve the direct assistance of the yorobars.The Biafran armoured thrust west will take advantage of the thin spread of northern occupation units across a large area of land mass, the north fighting two fronts at the same time and political situation of the forcefully conscripted yorobars fleein their units to join the guerrila resistance in the west or remaining in the army as moles to sabotage war efforts for the cause of their guerrila counterparts which indirectly will play into our hands as we quickly take up choke points in the Southwest thus cutting off the north from the sea and vital military imports.The role of the yorobars in this scenario is diversionary,independent and indirect from our own objectives...… [/color]

Pushing westward will not being seen as liberation but as occupation by the myopic ones.

Best policies

1) Support guerrilla movements

2) Engage in secret submarine warfare in far away international waters against vessels transporting supplies for Arewa. These vessels could be that of Arewa or Non-Arewa.