@op I understand your plight

I know a family friend who did the same thing u are planning to do..but the husband stay back in London while the kids and the wife live n school in Nigeria ..

don't mind those ones telling u not to bring them home its either because they've not tested child upbringing or they are mostly youths who just feel everything is OK in a white mans land including morals

money is not everything ...why raise mannerless kids

experience with these children when they come visiting is worrying ..imagine a 7yr old girl telling her mum not to beat her for wrong doing that's she's of age n she has her right ..then the older brother of 9 say he will called police on their mum for scolding them...just imagine ..n this are Yoruba children whom are suppose to nurture respect

so bro do the needful

God bless

OK let's prove these points ...since the bible says prove all things

1...to be rich
well I reluctantly agree since Jesus Himself said give and It shall be given unto you..good measure pressed down and shaken together .....et al shall be given back to you ..so I agree its a bible principle ...but How about ..Ask and ye shall be given ?


2....to be blessed
well seem similar to one above but the message under it tho ...I believe you still need prayers to claim those promises


3....to defeat Satan
well as much as I believe of a certainty that Jesus already overcame Satan on the Cross ... I still must stress that prayer is needed to enact this victory in our individual aspects of life ...OK lemme ask...what started the Idea of prayer and fasting in the new testament?..

I wan to believe that it was when the disciples of Jesus couldn't cast out a demon not until Jesus arrived and did such in a snap of a finger ..then the disciples marvel and asked why they couldn't ..then Jesus told them..." this kind Goeth not out but by prayer and fasting" ..so I still think prayer and fasting is relevant in this aspect


4...to be holy
of a truth righteousness is God given gift of salvation ..but prayer and fasting is highly needed for substaining this gift in order not to let it slide ..remember prayer means talking to God and fasting means serious business that I had to skip human pleasure of food or other addiction ...


5..to be righteous
well here I agree with u righteousness is a free gift from God to man thru Christ ..RIGHT-eousness is God being Right but given us that right ..because Jesus bought the Right thru His death for us ...so Righteousness is not our works but Gods

tosinjay:

Bro which pastor was that and what church do you worship?

. hmmm why u wan know ?

tell me your reason and I might tell you my church

ifenes:
Still a slave

been a while ...where have u been?

hope u good and free from anti-God syndrome

piperson:
advise needed pls

. sorry I'm not doubting you but did u actually meet him in person to confirm or its the Facebook story u believed ?

tempem:
The very annoying thing about you guys. What "my pastor said, and not what the Bible says".
Well, the Bible paint a different picture. Look at what the Bible said here.
Revelation 21: 3&4 " with that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: "Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.
Isn't this a good news?

. as much as I hate bad news myself ...and sincerely didn't wish for one myself nor to Nigeria my country ...but the news we see n hear each passing day pays the prophecy a "REALITY CHEQUE"

Kendzyma:
Only a jobless and an insane person fights an invisible enemy....

my people perish for lack of knowledge

for we wrestle, NOT against *flesh and blood*(physical being) but against *principalities and power ( spiritual welfare )

for the weapon of our welfare are not canal but mighty to the pulling down of * Strong holds and casting down imaginations and bringing into captivity every thought that exalt itself against the name of Jesus



we don't don't do suicide bombing , beheading of innocents or physical fights ...its called SPIRITUAL WALFARE

udatso:

13) Verily those who say, "Our Lord is Allah," and remain firm (on that Path),- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
14) Such shall be Companions of the Gardens, dwelling therein (for aye): a recompense for their (good) deeds.

Suratul ahqaf 46:13-14

ok

yazach:


How does your response answer the question?

ok let me put it like this:

Those that died before the coming of Jesus, how are they going to reach God

God will decide that ...but as it stands for now


Jesus said its thru Him


I indeed answered your question check your question to my reply

elfakkawy:

The Saudis never executed anybody just fot listening to western music, the so called execution is said to had happened in Syria (in ISIS controlled territories) and uptill now there's no authenticity of the story.
Your sister can't be killed just for being Christian something must've happened, can you tell when the so called killing happened

hmmm you think so?

Sylvaxxl1:


It depends on the size of church and the way it was built. The answer to ur question cannot just be given onlne, it has its approach. There are many speakers out there and the production of a speaker is not by how big it is. I hate it when churches spend unnecerally on sound equipments.
Just consult me and i`ll come around before I reccomend. Remember its free but u must take care of my transport that's all.

alright thanks ..I'll let you know when we are ready

I took some painstaking to go thru some of ur posts and thread ..but yet I couldn't still decipher what you really want


1..Did u just hate religion or it makes u sick because people place "ridiculous" hope and "sacred sacrifices". to religion compare to other aspect of life?

2...are u mad at God for all your predicaments or world occurrences or you just want Him to take the fall for every misfortune just because they call Him God?



3.most of.your aguement are baseless and lack merit..I'll pass ...but don't you see that (atheist ) you are losing much energy trying to disproof and disapprove God existence.. but you can't be wiser than the over two billion human who do ..plus don't u see that God is not perturbed....you are the one doing much like your father Charles Darwin who is dead and gone ?

4....now I suppose you may have once been "opportune" to be sitted in a church before ....tell me ain't you at peace those momment(s) compare to now that u are no longer at ease?




5....atheist in Africa or better yet in nigeria blame God/ insult God at any slight sight of a terrible disaster or accidental hazards and question His existence as to why He couldn't help to intervene...while those in the advance world would also bring unthinkable baseless funny proofs why there is no God because they felt they don't need the subject of God because they are either "self made" or care-less ......now having said this...does the reasoning of atheist varies according to LOCATION? or atheist are just mere attention seekers?




6...does your disbelief in a Supreme God/ heaven and Hell mark wrong the belief that they exist ?...what's your other proofs? or you just can't stomach it?



7.... Christianity is base on FAITH in JESUS...with many known and popular notions of how it has span thru out the ages, stood the test of time and many much concrete visible reason why its even REAL .......what's the basis of atheism?.....false peace ?



8....I don't actually know what you want but what do u need?....peace of mind perhaps?

do u have idea on the cost of an average sound system...and mega speakers for a large church
building ?

God bless u bro..keep it up

udatso:

And the Jews will not be pleased with thee, nor will the Christians, till thou follow their creed. Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah (Himself) is Guidance. And if thou shouldst follow their desires after the knowledge which hath come unto thee, then wouldst thou have from Allah no protecting guardian nor helper.

Quran 2:120

OK I won't force you










but I hope Allah won't disappointing you in the end ?

yazach:


How would the people of Moses get to God?

moses mission and Jesus mission ain't the same bro.
moses mission is to lead the children of is real out of Egypt to the promise land..mission complete for moses
while Jesus mission is to save the whole world, all races of mankind ..and redeem them back to God for those who are willing to believe and accept his redemption

hmmm

hmmm the problem with asking a delicate question as this on a public forum like Nairaland is that u may end up even more confuse with the numerous suggestions and advice ..and u don't know which to follow ..

I prefer u go to known mature figure one or two and seek for clinical advice or just forgive her if u could and make her promise she won't repeat such again ..

things like this dey pain sha ..but ..

Demmzy15:
Chairman! Deal with the op, stop playing victim card. If it's Islam you go they flex unnecessary muscles, the thread has nothing to do with Islam.

oops! ..I never knew I've been causing gulley erosion by my post and comments ..I was only airing my views all this while ..sorry I never meant to hurt Islam

bros I just saw my mention and on clicking on it I saw your quote ...I decide to reply to your comment ..

if I want to give attention to the op , well that's mine to decide not you deciding for me

have a nice day buddy

Demmzy15:
You'll never find the likes of truthman2012, TruthHurts1, true2god, Annunaki, ebenice, malvisguy212, proudkafir, OLAADEGBU, Parisbookaddict, etc here to defend and bring back atheists to Christianity but you'll be flexing unnecessary muscles for Muslims who are mostly on their own. Hypocrisy at its peak, y'all should come and defend your doctrines here please!

. just listen to yourself

so in an attempt to discredit these people you mentioned, you stylishly grow soft spot for atheism... smh

now I see clearly that the fight and hate is not against any other but Christians ..yet you'll claim Islam is peace and that Jesus is a Muslim yet there are wide gap BTW the two

very timely ..wake up and keep watch as you see the day of our redemption draweth near

Rilwayne001:
After watching like 8 episodes of banshee season 3 last night, I was seeing Lucas hood shooting me in my dreams. It was a dream as a result of watching shooting films.

I'm not watching any silly films for the next 5weeks.

like sincerely Rilwayne001, I admire ur sense of humour, you infact remind me of an ol' friend of mine .but not withstanding look below

udatso:

Thanks for the correction. It wasn't deliberate mistake though.

too and not to
God's love and not Gods love.
work on your English skills ....good luck***you need that advice more than I do****
Meanwhile, I think I will pass on the Jesus bla bla bla

oh! how I wish u would rather be more concerned on the "Jesus bla bla"

yazach:


Have you forgotten that br Paul was also a liar

Jesus said He is the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE...no man comes to the FATHER but by Me alone ...is Jesus a liar?

one thing I've learnt in life ..."don't make a promise u can't keep"

mmsen:


When has that ever happened?

They shamelessly loot state funds and yet no court has ever even attempted to try them - all these northerners who are clogging the Federal courts with their cases should face the Sharia courts instead, if that is what they truly believe. Let them risk their hands and lives instead of a few millions.

double standard politicians ...i thought leadership should be by example but hard ones like this is an exemption for them

I also hope our northern politicians too will be tried under sharia law and not just the common Muslim on the street

28 and above according to revelations ..but there's more to marriage than meet the eye ..just pray hard and prepare both emotionally n material wise ...Gods time still remain the best

udatso:
It's funny how no Christian bordered to ask for source. Well, I guess it's easier for them to believe falsehood. Keep lying to yourselves

it bothered not bodered ...work on your English skills ....good luck

meanwhile its not to late to accept Christ too ...He's loving and affectionate, the unique thing about the Christian faith is that it makes you relate with God like a friend and Father and also as a King to His subjects ...You are seriously missing ..come get a taste of Gods love thru Jesus while you still can ...He's calling you today ..don't keep him waiting

crusadistic:
OK...what's the name of the church.

must you comment ?..how's ur comment related to the topic?...hmmm #smh

crusadistic:
lol
lying for the greater glory of xrist.

wake up

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