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Say no to suicide.

Transport by water will reduce the Lagos traffic, but the problem here is that many are afraid to use it, what about the rail that is still under construction for many years that one if completed I think will reduce Lagos traffic. Though I used to see speed boats along that axis judging by the background (civic towers vi), speed boats cost, but this one I believe will be cheaper, another thing is safety of the passengers and maintenance.

naptu2:
Simple: The Toyota guys came with a proposal to set up a medical diagnostic centre in Nigeria, so that Nigerians do not need to go abroad for healthcare and President Buhari told them that they can also set up an additional plant in Nigeria because Nigeria has the population to absorb the investment.


Are you saying that Toyota does not already have an assembly plant in Nigeria?

Oga am not political, Coscharis have his assembly plant at Awoyaya and Toyota ( Auto nation) had theirs at Bogije both in Ibeju-Lekki lagos. God is good also wants to setup an assembly plant around that Ibeju Lekki.

But I think that jforce is all about you buying products for others on jumia . though naija can manipulate any system to make money. Jumia terms and conditions need to be check to know if the complainants defaulted.

I saw innoson G80 and G40 last year for the first time, they were test running( emphasis mine) them then. Those machines got some respect sha, the police men did not even border to stop them.

All this art work get more value than the computer printed image.

Prayer is very important, many do not know the kind of things that do happen in those big markets.

That's innovation, many keke marwa operating in mainland have iPads. There is one guy I use to admire along Bode Thomas, he wears suit and wrote corporate keke guy on his keke.

Lawan is a distant family friend, we call him doctor, thank God for his victory.

Return of monthly sanitation is not the solution, lawma should be posted to the city roads as it used to be during Fashola's regime.

Canadianbreed01:
Did I just see this message from one Abdul. God bless you... I love you. God will give us the grace

You can no longer use name to differentiate ones faith in the north again. A Yoruba christian from a Muslim mother goes by the name Mohammed, Rev fr Bulama etc

Go finish for them, atleast its located in Abj

Gay, lier and a fornicator are all sinners and should be treated alike. Their repentance is what pleases God. We don't condemn but correct. That has been the stand of the catholic church. Check your cathecism book(not summarized versions).

Op I do believe in theories they are the foundation. I study mathematics but a web developer, as result of exposure and having access to algorithms and scripts of complex websites from their developers gave me some experience that those that started before me do not have. I have use some mathematical theories to solve programming issues, theories from real and complex analysis, understanding of the number system helps a lot.

Op be careful, don't over twist grace and led people to err, people are commiting immortality and will say they are saved. I believe in grace.
God use Samson to crush the enemies of Israel thats one of the reason Samson was in love with Philistine woman ( judges 14:4)

Its a parish support to the diocese, Last year St James supported with over sixty cows max at 50k.

Justice has been done to the given problem, thumbs up to the critical thinkers in the house.

I need some real estate agent who can help me find a shop a shop for rent @ Ajar.

The bitter truth is that USSD is no longer safe, ask ur bank to block it, keep your banking sim at home, if you have to use ATM outside your area , take a second ATM that has small cash, if there is need for money transfer to the account linked to the ATM from online, always clear your username and password from your browser.

BananaTree:
You're a mumu. I really don't think you ever attended a university. If you did, please tell me tales of how you and your colleagues took a day to clean the toilets cleaners are being paid to do.

Guy its not a big deal, I know of some people that clean it, I also use to clean Alvan and Eni Njoku T end when I was an Under G, until they discover that our series T ends used to be clean.

The problem with Unn students is that the first person to use it never flush it, and it continues like that till the next day when the cleaners clean it.

I know that the school renovated them, but the overhead tank is not working.

asuustrike1:
The mother church is in pentecostal this was not how God wanted it to be. The bible is our guide and I have given you facts with scriptural evidences as to why idolatry still exist in that church. Unfortunately anybody against catholics is either a protestant or pentecostal even when the evidence is staring at them. Am not a pentecostal if you must know

Bro read the bible well, you will know that Mary has no other children. Nor do catholic worship mary . I have posted it above but have to copy it to you here.


John 19:25
But by the cross of Jesus stood His mother, His mother's sister, Mary the [wife] of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.

Matthew 27:56
Among them were Mary of Magdala, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of Zebedee's sons.

Mark 15:40
Now some women were there also, looking on from a distance, among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joses, and Salome,

Jude 1
1 JUDE, A servant of Jesus Christ (the Messiah), and brother of James, [writes this letter] to those who are called (chosen), dearly loved by God the Father and separated (set apart) and kept for Jesus Christ:

Mark 3:17-18
17 James son of Zebedee and John the brother of James, and He surnamed them Boanerges, that is, Sons of Thunder;
18 And Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew (Nathaniel), and Matthew, and Thomas, and James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus (Judas, not Iscariot), and Simon the Cananaean [also called Zelotes],

Matthew 13:55-56
55 Is not this the carpenter's Son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

56 And do not all His sisters live here among us? Where then did this Man get all this?

___________________________________________________

Matthew 13 listed James, Joseph, Simon and Judas. Now let's take a look on crucification account by John, Mark and Mathew listed above ( in the crowd three women were noted Mary mother of Jesus, {Mary the [wife] of Clopas, } and Mary Magdalene.
John tells us that the wife of Clopas also named Mary is a sister to Mary mother of Jesus.
Mark 15:40 points out that Joses(Joseph),James (also in Jude1:1), Judas(Jude) are Children of wife of clopas
Note also the use of sister for Clopas wife in John account (They were both named Mary).


_____________________________________________________


Don't forget this, all generations
shall call Mary blessed (Luke1:48).
Does it mean that the Israelites were
worshiping the Ark of the covenant in the
book of Exodus. What biblical revelations Do
yo have about the old and new Ark of the
covenant? Now see why Mary is the Ark of
the covenant. Embodiment of Gods presence
and grace.
God the Holy Spirit overshadowed and then
indwelled the Ark. The Ark became the
dwelling place of the presence of God
[ Exodus 40:34-35]
God the Holy Spirit overshadowed and then
indwelled Mary. At that time Mary's womb
became the dwelling place of the presence
of God [ Luke 1:35].
The Ark contained the Ten Commandments
[the words of God in stone], a pot of manna,
and Aaron's rod that came back to life
[ Deuteronomy 10:3-5; Hebrews 9:4].
The womb of the Virgin contained Jesus: the
living Word of God enfleshed, the living
bread from heaven, "the Branch" (Messianic
title) who would die but come back to life
[ Luke 1:35].
The Ark traveled to the hill country of Judah
to rest in the house of Obed-edom [ 2
Samuel 6:1-11]
Mary traveled to the hill country of Judah
(Judea) to the home of Elizabeth [ Luke 1:39]
Dressed in a priestly ephod, King David
approached the Ark and danced and leapt
for joy [ 2 Samuel 6:14]
John the Baptist, son of a priest who would
himself becomes a priest, leapt for joy in
Elizabeth's womb at the approach of Mary
[ Luke 1:43]
David shouted for joy in the presence of God
and the holy Ark [ 2 Samuel 6:15]
Elizabeth exclaimed with a loud cry of joy in
the presence God within Mary [ Luke 1:42]
David asked, "How is it that the Ark of the
Lord comes to me?" [ 2 Samuel 6:9]
Elizabeth asks, "Why is this granted unto me,
that the mother of my Lord should come to
me?" [ Luke 1:43]
The Ark remained in the house of Obed-
edom for 3 months [ 2 Samuel 6:11]
Mary remained in the house of her cousin
Elizabeth for 3 months [ Luke 1:56].
The house of Obed-edom was blessed by
the presence of the Ark [ 2 Samuel 6:11]
The word "blessed" is used 3 times in Luke
1:39-45 concerning Mary at Elizabeth's
house.
The Ark returned to its sanctuary and
eventually ends up in Jerusalem where the
presence and glory of God is revealed in the
newly built Temple [ 2 Samuel 6:12; 1 Kings
8:9-11]
Mary returned home from visiting Elizabeth
and eventually comes to Jerusalem, where
she presents God the Son in the Temple
[ Luke 1:56; 2:21-22]
God made Aaron's rod (which would be
kept in the Ark) return to life and budded to
prove he was the legitimate High Priest
[ Numbers 17:8].
God would resurrect His Son, who had
become enfleshed in Mary's womb and born
to bring salvation to all mankind, to prove He
is the eternal High Priest [ Hebrews 4:14].
When the Ark was outside the Holy of Holies
[when it was being transported] it was to
be covered with a blue veil [ Numbers 4:4-6]
In Mary's appearances outside of heaven
visionaries testify that she wears a blue veil.
In Revelation 11:19 John sees the Ark of the
Covenant in heaven [this is the last verse of
chapter 11]

MistadeRegal:
JESUS CHRIST never told anyone to worship his mother.
Those passages you quoted still hasn't proved your claims but see this:

Now the Jew's feast of tabernacles was at hand. His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest. For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world. For neither did his brethren believe in him.
John:7:2-5

Hope you can see 'that thy disciples'.

Here are the bible verses I quoted

John 19:25
But by the cross of Jesus stood His mother, His mother's sister, Mary the [wife] of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.

Matthew 27:56
Among them were Mary of Magdala, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of Zebedee's sons.

Mark 15:40
Now some women were there also, looking on from a distance, among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joses, and Salome,

Jude 1
1 JUDE, A servant of Jesus Christ (the Messiah), and brother of James, [writes this letter] to those who are called (chosen), dearly loved by God the Father and separated (set apart) and kept for Jesus Christ:

Mark 3:17-18
17 James son of Zebedee and John the brother of James, and He surnamed them Boanerges, that is, Sons of Thunder;
18 And Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew (Nathaniel), and Matthew, and Thomas, and James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus (Judas, not Iscariot), and Simon the Cananaean [also called Zelotes],

Matthew 13:55-56
55 Is not this the carpenter's Son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

56 And do not all His sisters live here among us? Where then did this Man get all this?

___________________________________________________

Matthew 13 listed James, Joseph, Simon and Judas. Now let's take a look on crucification account by John, Mark and Mathew listed above ( in the crowd three women were noted Mary mother of Jesus, {Mary the [wife] of Clopas, } and Mary Magdalene.
John tells us that the wife of Clopas also named Mary is a sister to Mary mother of Jesus.
Mark 15:40 points out that Joses(Joseph),James (also in Jude1:1), Judas(Jude) are Children of wife of clopas
Note also the use of sister for Clopas wife in John account (They were both named Mary).


_____________________________________________________


Don't forget this, all generations
shall call Mary blessed (Luke1:48).
Does it mean that the Israelites were
worshiping the Ark of the covenant in the
book of Exodus. What biblical revelations Do
yo have about the old and new Ark of the
covenant? Now see why Mary is the Ark of
the covenant. Embodiment of Gods presence
and grace.
God the Holy Spirit overshadowed and then
indwelled the Ark. The Ark became the
dwelling place of the presence of God
[ Exodus 40:34-35]
God the Holy Spirit overshadowed and then
indwelled Mary. At that time Mary's womb
became the dwelling place of the presence
of God [ Luke 1:35].
The Ark contained the Ten Commandments
[the words of God in stone], a pot of manna,
and Aaron's rod that came back to life
[ Deuteronomy 10:3-5; Hebrews 9:4].
The womb of the Virgin contained Jesus: the
living Word of God enfleshed, the living
bread from heaven, "the Branch" (Messianic
title) who would die but come back to life
[ Luke 1:35].
The Ark traveled to the hill country of Judah
to rest in the house of Obed-edom [ 2
Samuel 6:1-11]
Mary traveled to the hill country of Judah
(Judea) to the home of Elizabeth [ Luke 1:39]
Dressed in a priestly ephod, King David
approached the Ark and danced and leapt
for joy [ 2 Samuel 6:14]
John the Baptist, son of a priest who would
himself becomes a priest, leapt for joy in
Elizabeth's womb at the approach of Mary
[ Luke 1:43]
David shouted for joy in the presence of God
and the holy Ark [ 2 Samuel 6:15]
Elizabeth exclaimed with a loud cry of joy in
the presence God within Mary [ Luke 1:42]
David asked, "How is it that the Ark of the
Lord comes to me?" [ 2 Samuel 6:9]
Elizabeth asks, "Why is this granted unto me,
that the mother of my Lord should come to
me?" [ Luke 1:43]
The Ark remained in the house of Obed-
edom for 3 months [ 2 Samuel 6:11]
Mary remained in the house of her cousin
Elizabeth for 3 months [ Luke 1:56].
The house of Obed-edom was blessed by
the presence of the Ark [ 2 Samuel 6:11]
The word "blessed" is used 3 times in Luke
1:39-45 concerning Mary at Elizabeth's
house.
The Ark returned to its sanctuary and
eventually ends up in Jerusalem where the
presence and glory of God is revealed in the
newly built Temple [ 2 Samuel 6:12; 1 Kings
8:9-11]
Mary returned home from visiting Elizabeth
and eventually comes to Jerusalem, where
she presents God the Son in the Temple
[ Luke 1:56; 2:21-22]
God made Aaron's rod (which would be
kept in the Ark) return to life and budded to
prove he was the legitimate High Priest
[ Numbers 17:8].
God would resurrect His Son, who had
become enfleshed in Mary's womb and born
to bring salvation to all mankind, to prove He
is the eternal High Priest [ Hebrews 4:14].
When the Ark was outside the Holy of Holies
[when it was being transported] it was to
be covered with a blue veil [ Numbers 4:4-6]
In Mary's appearances outside of heaven
visionaries testify that she wears a blue veil.
In Revelation 11:19 John sees the Ark of the
Covenant in heaven [this is the last verse of
chapter 11]
In Revelation 12:1 John sees Mary in heaven.

PrincewithGod:
What gibberish.

Hope you read the bible verses.

John 19:25
But by the cross of Jesus stood His mother, His mother's sister, Mary the [wife] of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.

Matthew 27:56
Among them were Mary of Magdala, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of Zebedee's sons.

Mark 15:40
Now some women were there also, looking on from a distance, among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joses, and Salome,

Jude 1
1 JUDE, A servant of Jesus Christ (the Messiah), and brother of James, [writes this letter] to those who are called (chosen), dearly loved by God the Father and separated (set apart) and kept for Jesus Christ:

Mark 3:17-18
17 James son of Zebedee and John the brother of James, and He surnamed them Boanerges, that is, Sons of Thunder;
18 And Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew (Nathaniel), and Matthew, and Thomas, and James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus (Judas, not Iscariot), and Simon the Cananaean [also called Zelotes],

Matthew 13:55-56
55 Is not this the carpenter's Son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

56 And do not all His sisters live here among us? Where then did this Man get all this?

___________________________________________________

Matthew 13 listed James, Joseph, Simon and Judas. Now let's take a look on crucification account by John, Mark and Mathew listed above ( in the crowd three women were noted Mary mother of Jesus, {Mary the [wife] of Clopas, } and Mary Magdalene.
John tells us that the wife of Clopas also named Mary is a sister to Mary mother of Jesus.
Mark 15:40 points out that James (also in Jude1:1), are Children of wife of clopas

MistadeRegal:
Open your Bible to Matthew 13:55,56
55. Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
56. And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?

Mark 6:3
3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him. {offended: scandalized in, or, by him}

Mary a virgin conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit while still a virgin (Luke 1:34-35 and Matthew 1:25), and gave birth to only Jesus.
Even though Matthew13:55 and Mark6:3 address Jesus relatives as brothers. Reading John19:25 , Matthew27:56, Mark15:40, Jude:1 and mark3:17-18 further reveals that those mentioned are close relatives of Jesus .

Valerie47:
How is Mary a virgin? marry had Jesus and other kids from Joseph.

Mary a virgin conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit while still a virgin (Luke 1:34-35 and Matthew 1:25), and gave birth to only Jesus.
Even though Matthew13:55 and Mark6:3 address Jesus relatives as brothers. Reading John19:25 , Matthew27:56, Mark15:40, Jude:1 and mark3:17-18 further reveals that those mentioned are close relatives of Jesus .

MistadeRegal:
What most people do not know is that, anything you set up and start worshiping gets possessed. This is not Virgin Mary and even she never died a virgin because she had other children for Joseph. Making her a god to worship is idolatery.
There was a time someone told me they are only honouring the Queen of Heaven. The same religion that was condemned by GOD of the children of Israel during the days of Jeremiah.

Read the book of Jeremiah Chapter 7 and Chapter 44 and see what GOD says about the so called religion of the Queen of Heaven.

Think people.

And for those disputing if Mary had other children or not, see the following Bible passages:

Open your Bible to Matthew 13:55,56
55. Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
56. And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?

Mark 6:3
3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

Mary a virgin conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit while still a virgin (Luke 1:34-35 and Matthew 1:25), and gave birth to only Jesus.
Even though Matthew13:55 and Mark6:3 address Jesus relatives as brothers. Reading John19:25 , Matthew27:56, Mark15:40, Jude:1 and mark3:17-18 further reveals that those mentioned are close relatives of Jesus .

The queen of heaven is a title given to Mary base on the fact that a king mother plays a queen role (2kings2:19) and Jesus is a king (John18:37)
The title is taken from Revelation12:1-6
where the mother of Jesus is crown with 12 stars which symbolise angels (star), 12
tribes of Israel(the chosen people), 12 apostles (Church). There were other titles like the Ark of new covenant. This is from the fact that the power of God or Shekinah Glory rested on Mary in Luke1:35 and in Exodus40:34-38 the Shekinah Glory rested on the Ark of the covenant. Jesus is the fulfilment of the law (Matthew5:17) and stayed in the womb of Mary, but the law in Exodus40:20 and Hebrew9:4 was inside the Ark of the covenant.

The mother of Jesus need to be respected.

dauddy97:
I love programming and I love Mathematics. I choose Mathematics myself when I applied for jamb since 2017. Currently in 200lvl. My eldest brother called my dad and ask him what I was studying, so he told him it's "Mathematics". After their discussion, I was told to start planning to write another jamb and choose computer science. I don't know how to convince them. pls help, should I continue with Mathematics or sit for another jamb.

pls, I need your candid advice.

My advise is don't rewrite jamb because I believe there is an option for you to do change of course ( you can change to Cs/math or CS)
On a more serious note I will advise you to continue maths and join IT groups (google team, 21st century club, ...) and learn programming during semester break. You should also try and get some certifications eg CCNA. Mathematics make you a better programmer , I knew some CS graduates that wish they combined maths. I myself graduated from mathematics also member of google team. The current google educator sub sahara Africa is from my team. Decision now is yours.

alBHAGDADI:
We are barely days into the New Year and those against tithe/firstfruits have already started launching their attack on the doctrine. According to these people, the concept of firstfruits is not a doctrine for Christians because we are not under the law of Moses. What they fail to know is that even before the forefathers of Moses were born, God had been collecting first fruits from humans. This post will show that it is God himself that ordained the collection of firstfruits and it is not subject to any law.

The first person recorded to have given first fruit or firstling is Abel the son of Adam and Eve. He and his brother Cain were told to do so By God.

Genesis 4:4
And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

You see, whenever we mention Abel as someone who gave first fruit way before the law of Moses, all those anti-tithers love to give excuses to rubbish such point. One of the excuses they give is that God didn't command or order him to bring any first fruit, which means he did it of his own free will. Before I show you that it is God that commanded Abel and Cain to make that sacrifice, I will first of all like to show you that these anti-tithers understand nothing about the Bible. They don't understand because they lack the spirit of God, that's why someone can deceive them easily against tithing.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and
they are life.

They lack the spirit of God, that's why they don't understand the word of God which is spiritually discerned. Now, let me show you that God gave the command for Abel and Cain to offer sacrifice unto him. See what the Bible said below.

Hebrews 11:4
By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.

Did you notice the words in bold above? The above verse says Abel offered sacrifice to God by faith. This means he believed in the word of God and proceeded to offer the sacrifice. This clearly shows that the word of God told him to do what he did, meaning he didn't do it if his own free will. See what the Bible says about faith and the word of God below.

Romans 10:17
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

As seen above, you can't have faith without hearing the word of God. Now, if the Bible in Hebrews 11:4 says Abel had faith in God towards offering a sacrifice, then it means he heard the word of God telling him to offer the sacrifice. He heard the word of God and had faith in it which made him carry out the command.

It's now ridiculous for people who lack understanding of the Bible to sit somewhere and start saying God never commanded Abel to bring first fruits or firstlings. They read the Bible like it's a romance novel, that's why they never grab anything from the word which is spirit.

It is that same practice of Abel that Abraham followed, his grandson Jacob followed and also the children of Israel under the law of Moses. God is still the same yesterday, today and forever. He change not. If he collected first fruit from the people of old even way before the law of Moses, then what makes you think he has changed?

Malachi 3:6
For I am the LORD , I change not;

Yes, I understand that many are angry that today's pastors have abused this doctrine and have enriched themselves with it to the point of living in opulence and flying in jets. But that doesn't mean we should throw away the doctrine which is the word of God. Throwing it away because of them is like throwing away the baby with the bath water.

If you feel your church is one those who have abused this doctrine, then find another church which hasn't; they exist. Mind you, not all churches are really the house of God. As long as the message they preach is works based salvation and not saved by grace alone, then such is not the house of God. Such churches are an example of Cain and his offering. That is why most people who pay first fruits there are not really getting blessed. Let me show you why they are Cain.

Remember we established above that it was the word of God that made Cain and Abel make sacrifice unto God. But how come God rejected Cain's sacrifice but accepted Abel's?

Cain failed to follow instruction given by God's word. How do we know what this instruction is? We know this from Abel's sacrifice which the Bible says God had respect for. Abel made a blood sacrifice unto God, he sacrificed a lamb. Had it been Cain did the same thing, his sacrifice would have been accepted too. Rather, he offered fruits of the ground while Abel offered the blood of a lamb which represents the blood of Jesus Christ who is this Holy Lamb.

Cain's offering was based on his works. He thought if he offered an offering based on his sweat of tilling the soil and harvesting the produce, God will be more pleased by his effort. He failed to obey simple instruction of offering blood sacrifice, instead he relied on his WORKS. His sacrifice represents work based salvation, hence the reason why God rejected it.

Abel on the other hand followed the instructions God gave. He didnt rely on his works but relied on the blood of the lamb which is the same as relying on the blood of Jesus which was sacrificed on the cross. That is what God wants us to do today. But these dubious churches have changed the gospel and are now selling a work based salvation where people No longer rely on the sacrifice of Jesus but on their works of righteousness or their ability not to sin. They have turned their congregation into people who will present works of righteousness which the Bible calls filthy rags before God as their means of salvation.

Isaiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean thing , and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags;

They do not know that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. And it is not of our works lest any man should boast.

Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

So, if your church is telling you that you can lose your salvation and that salvation involves works, then that is a clear pointer that such a place is not the house of God. That is why the pastors of such churches are very wealthy because they do not believe in God and have fleeced the sheep to stupor. If you continue to give your money whether in offering, tithe or first fruit, just know that your money is not reaching God. It's the same as going to GTBank to send Money to me when I don't bank with them. The money won't get to me. You have to look for the right bank which I have an account with before I can receive the money.

To all those who go about telling people Not to pay tithe or give Money to church, be careful or else God will descend on you.

Hebrews 10:31
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

You know little about God's word yet you are going about persuading people to disobeying him. If you have decided not to pay to churches, so be it. But going about telling others to do the same is very dangerous.

Many will come to this thread to try to rubbish it by saying I'm a pastor trying to defend my cake. I'm not a pastor neither do I have a church. People who make such claims only do so to prove they are on the wrong. They attack the messenger while they neglect the message. That is being guilty.

Even though am not against first fruit, the direction of your points above are wrong. Your use of Heb 11 and Rom 10 is wrong. Don't make assumptions with the word of God, someone can quote 2Sam 24:1 and 1Chron 21:1 and assume The lord= satan, if you don't know ask and someone should help you.

sonofanarchy:
to whom brain is given, sense is excpected...you are talking trash what is Christmas? and what does Christ -mas stand for? brainless african

Well, that was his own personal opinion. December 25 was chosen partly because no one knows the exact date of Christ birth, also because after 25th the world experience longer days, i.e ... the light(CHRIST) entering into the world (jn 1:4-5), partly also to convert the The Roman sun worshipers whom believe that the sun god is the light of the world & usually had their festive on 25th dec. And i know that heaven rejoice over their repentance (Lk 15:7) and it worth celebrating just like the return of prodigal son(LK 15:31-32). In my own case i celebrate christmass because i believe that Christ Jesus is the light of the world (jn 8:12 & jn 9 :5). God made me in his own image image (gen 1:27), in his image am like a light to the world (mat 5:14-16) therefore its my duty to make peace, visit the imprisoned, help the poor, made Christ manifest in whatever i do. I also belive in the sunday sabbath(the first day of the week) because its the day Christ resurrect, penticost, light was made(gen 1:3) and the apostles observe it as its in Acts 20:7 and 1cor 16:2. I have no business with son god. I am in CHRIST JESUS.

Well, that was his own personal opinion. December 25 was chosen partly because no one knows the exact date of Christ birth, also because after 25th the world experience longer days, i.e ... the light(CHRIST) entering into the world (jn 1:4-5), partly also to convert the The Roman sun worshipers whom believe that the sun god is the light of the world & usually had their festive on 25th dec. And i know that heaven rejoice over their repentance (Lk 15:7) and it worth celebrating just like the return of prodigal son(LK 15:31-32). In my own case i celebrate christmass because i believe that Christ Jesus is the light of the world (jn 8:12 & jn 9 :5). God made me in his own image image (gen 1:27), in his image am like a light to the world (mat 5:14-16) therefore its my duty to make peace, visit the imprisoned, help the poor, made Christ manifest in whatever i do. I also belive in the sunday sabbath(the first day of the week) because its the day Christ resurrect, penticost, light was made(gen 1:3) and the apostles observe it as its in Acts 20:7 and 1cor 16:2. I have no business with son god. I am in CHRIST JESUS.

So this how new words are formed using some1 name eg Dorcas and Benlo (Benlowship Unn students/graduates knows the meaning )