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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 10:10pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
But it is true naa... You have been going on and on about how much you have followed Nacho and you are here showing complete ignorance of Nacho's achievements since his beautiful debut season in 2015/2016..... Looolll... Oga Google and Twitter are your friends. The records are all there.. Dont make me do your homework for you aiit... wink

You know Nacho and you ask what has Nacho achieved? You are a comediam indeed. Like I said, it only shows you have been lying. As simple as that. You have been overcome by mbappeism. Looolll
Nacho debut season is better than Mbappe?? Ok.
Nacho scored 8 league goals Mbappe scored 6 Ucl goals.
Mbappe won young player of the year.
Mbappe made ucl team of the year
Mbappe won the golden boy.
Mbappe made ligue un team of the season
But I agree - You win. Nacho is better because he's Nigerian. That is the most legitimate reason ever grin grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 10:06pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Story story story!!! Hahahahahahahahaha.....

Nacho got three of his international goals playing as a CF (one from the penalty spot) but his other five goals came as a AM. That is hard facts mister... So no excuses for Mbappe on the international scene aiit. 180 million gotta produce some magic naa abi? grin So why cutting him some slack? Abi for PSG doesn't he also come from the right of attack? Does he not come from outwide? Really cheap and weak excusse you raise. smiley


Nacho hit 10 EPL goals before age 20... He joined an exclusive club that had Wayne Rooney and a couple of other talented youngsters. He was the first African to hit such milestone before age 20. I guess that means nothing to you because his name is not Mbappe... grin

Nacho took freekick for Nigeria naa... With Boss Mikel around... U no dey fear respect of quality?

But plsss no muvh talk... 180 million for a player like Mbappe. Surely he must he able to do a lot of things naa... wink

And one of them is hitting a good clean freekick... Abi 180 million comes without the freekick package? grin huh?

Nacho trumps your boy in the international circles man.... And club wise, Nacho still strives in a team not boasting the stardust quality of PSG... Yet, Nacho is still getting those assists and goals in little time given... His class is obvious to all man. This is also why Monaco and Dortmund came for him last summer.... They wanted him. In fact Monaco tabled a major bid which was turned down because of Nacho's British passport aspirations.


Come on he is just 25 million naa abi... But this kid can hit a good freekick that made even Dybala envious (see below). He can score with both feet and with his head. He is growing into a all-round attacking beast... But your boy, Mbappe still stays on the flashy roadrunner level with 180 million over His head...

Honestly , a 180 million player should be influential against Madrid naa abi? In Neymar's absence, Mbappe was so exposed as reminded of how small he was. He was bang average that day. For 180 million, excuses really should not be welcomed naa abi...

I cannot even remember Mbappe winning CNN international goal of the week. So much for all these mbappe hypes really... Hahahahaha...
Mbappe was influential against BVB, Juve, Man City and Bayern. Why did Nacho flop against madrid. Is Monaco a better team than City? Matic won Fifa Puskas award. By your logic he is a better player than Busquets and surprise surprise - Mikel grin grin grin
Nacho flopped in the ucl when he had city first team behind him. Mbappe had a bad game against Madrid without Neymar. Do you see how I'm exposing your weak points??
Mbappe was valued at 36m before his first pro season. Is it Mbappe that can't score and dribble with both feet?? Is it Mbappe that can't score with his head?
Neymar having a bad game against Madrid means he's not better than Kane or Son who had good games against Madrid according to your logic?
You still keep dodging my question - apart from a final pass and ok let me give you finishing and freekick ( grin grin grin grin) name anything else Nacho is better than Mbappe at??
Name 4 big teams like Bvb, bayern, Juve and Man City that Nacho has performed far better than Mbappe?? Tell us why Pep played Sterling and Debruyne as false 9s even when Nacho was fit despite Nacho having better off the ball movements than Jesus?? I'm waiting. Mbappe has performed in league and Ucl. Has Nacho performed in ucl??
I'll tweak one famous quote of Ben Shapiro before I leave - "Facts don't care about your feelings (patriotism).
I'm done with this argument.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 9:23pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Busted! For you to ask such a question shows you have only been lying to the house about following Nacho. cheesy

Your disguise is off... Hahahahahahahahaha
Ah yes...since you can't put up a reasonable argument, you result to conjecture. Apart from his golden ball award at u17, name anything else Nacho has achieved that trumps what I've mentionedhuh I wait.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 9:21pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Naaah...yours is blind mbappeism... A syndrome in which euro flavor has really eaten deep into your optic chiasma to make you see nothing beyond " European" goodness... grin

And actually he does need that freekick... Sadly so sad Backing out because he cannot hit one? cheesy Special players know how to hit a good freekick. Look at Pele, Maradona, Messi, Zidane... Even Drogba could hit a good freekick. Is that so hard for Mighty Lord Mbappe of 180million fame... How can a player cost this much and cannot hit a good freekick? Waste of funds if you ask me... Hahahahahahahahaha...


On UCL... Well, Nacho still has a good gaol ratio in the UCL. Abi no be when he enter UCL him go see ball play? cheesy When he did play, he shone... Simple sturvs really. Even before the Madrid game, he commanded the best goal ratio in all of Europe. Ouuccchhhh...

180 million Mbappe still has just 1 goal and 3 assists in 11 international apps.

But a "meagre" 25 million Nacho has 8 GLS and 4 assists in 14 international apps.

So much for the very expensive teen wonder... Who can kick a ball that will blow up the moon... Loooll
Mbappe plays out wide or as a second striker for france. Nacho plays as a second striker/st.
180m Mbappe scored 6 in 9 ucl matches in his first full pro season.
You're not telling us why a player from a 1.5 league is the best player in Nacho team.
Why is our most inform midfielder(Ndidi) compared to a player from a "1.5" league?? Where was Nacho when Mbappe was scoring against city, bvb, Juve, and bayern?? Why wasn't Nacho taking freekicks in city when Yaya Toure, Silva and KDB was around?? Why isn't he taking freekicks in Leicester.
Mbappe facts are real facts!!! World class coaches love Mbappe facts!! Football analysts love Mbappe facts! Legends love Mbappe facts!! He'll even some super eagles players would love Mbappe facts!!
12 UCL goals at 19!! But he's overrated because he's not Nigerian grin grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 9:02pm On Mar 14, 2018
eterisan:
they are young cms... Within same age bracket.... And can play as dms..... Re in bigger clubs and command huge transfer fees.... If not them then who....ok fred na... Jorghinho nko..... Seri.... Who will we measure ndidi's quality against.... Mek I go watch Che vs barca abeg.... I have tried
Those guys are Registas. How many times will I say it? Seri ain't a DM. All these guys can play alongside Ndidi.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 9:00pm On Mar 14, 2018
daveP:
Mbappe? Someone that was as black as his shadow when playing against Madrid?



He couldn't contribute an attacking pass in the first leg. Iota stats captured that but that night the commentators were overwhelmingly concerned and focused on Neymar.


Ndidi has play at the highest level just like Mbappe, and he delivered absolutely fine and classy! Pls what has Mbappe done?
Mbappe had a better performance than Ndidi in the ucl last season - fact
Mbappe is the highest scoring teen in the ucl - fact
Nacho flopped when he played for city against Madrid too - Fact.
Mbappe in his first ucl season scored 6 in 9 games - fact.
Mbappe scored 26 goals in his first full season as a pro despite playing as a second striker and not a team called PSG - fact
Mbappe made the ucl team of last season - fact.
What has Nacho achieved?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 8:55pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
So many wake me ups... Nacho got a whole lot of those. Hahahahahahahahaha....

Wake me up

Loooollll.... Wake me up when Mbappe reaches 8 goals in international games for France in as many games. He has played almost same number of games as Nacho for France and Nacho's international stats trumps him so much. cheesy

Nacho plays in the EPL.. A 2.0 league rated far above a 1.5 league in ligue 1 so you can imagine the many wake me up calls I could bring up... Loooll

But I am still so particular about that freekick... For all his pace, power and flashy plays, Mbappe is yet to hit a freekick goal. How super he must really be... Hahahahahahahahaha... Awwwwwwn...
Mbappe doesn't need a free kick to prove he's better than Nacho. He doesn't take freekicks. Nacho took one and scored. Don't make me go bring two of their comps now and even prove my point even more.
Mbappe plays on the wing and as a second striker.
The same guy from the 1.5 league had a better season in the ucl than Nacho ever had at any competiton.
Isn't the best player in Nacho team from a "1.5" team?? Isn't the player Ndidi is being compared to from a "1.5 league"?
Wake me up when Nacho makes any Fifa XI of year. First to 5th team. Make me up when Nacho wins the golden boy
Wake me up when Nacho is the youngest to be nominated for Fifa player of the year.
Wake me up when Nacho stops getting benched by wingers.
Wake me up when Nacho ever performs better than Mbappe in a big competition i.e Ucl and WC.
Wake me up when Nacho is a better player than Mbappe. Like seriously. I'll be the first to raise my hands and admit.
For now, you're argument is based on blind patriotism. No be only you dey patriotic grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 8:07pm On Mar 14, 2018
eterisan:
how about best passers, best dribbler, best shooter, transition play, assist bf the assist, game reading and control.... Does ndidi still trump them.... Is he still the best in Europe.... You really rate Ndidi above tolisso, Fred, jorghinho, sms..... Abeg mek una nr mek am de feel like say I de pull him down.... Note we De compare u23 dms now... Cos obviously ndidi nr reach the top guys rank.
Again, don't think it's fair to compare Ndidi to guys like SMS and Tolisso. Both aren't really holding midfielders.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 7:45pm On Mar 14, 2018
daveP:
Time is a figment of our imagination. Are you a student of life?



He may flop till 26and then win onwards from there. Arrrghhhh
Your point?? We are arguing who is better at the moment. Who has shown more potential and who possess the better attributes. I say it's Mbappe. Simple.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 7:39pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Yeah.... Right.... Truth. grin I think I will just stick to the true version of "Truth". You can keep yours aiit... Thank you. I dont do single stories view. Lol... Mehn... Lost count of the yawns even... This Euro players/clubs flavor tinted analysis is really so boring and downright ridiculous to the beautiful game's real neutral fans like me who have learnt to see things holistically and bravely concerning Nigerian players and their foreign counterparts all based in these foreingn counterparts' continent, "Europe" ... It's Boring shaa... So boring indeed... Wake me up when Mbappe scores a world class freekick against a top team like Nacho did aiit.... *yawns*
Anyone who says Nacho has better technique and off the ball movement isn't "neutral" or "objective". So miss me with these yans. Wake me up when Nacho scores more than 6 goals in the ucl.
Wake me up when Nacho benches players like Draxler, Di Maria, Pastore, etc.
Wake me up when Nacho is the highest scoring teen in the ucl
Wake me up when Nacho makes the UCL team of the season.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 7:25pm On Mar 14, 2018
Humility017:
that was your opinion and some other folks who care to see less.....and i think that does not count.
Yeah it wasn't widely recognized that Nacho had a poor first touch till he started working on it recently?? I made it up because I'm a Nacho hater right?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 6:41pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Gosh.... Lol... Mbappe fanboy syndrome showing its symptoms again.... But go on..... Tell us more... Looll
Yep Mbappe fanboy dropping Mbappe facts i.e the truth and nothing but the truth
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 6:21pm On Mar 14, 2018
tbaba1234:
A possession club will help him improve that attribute. Arsenal can do with a ball winner with his ability. Xhaka is atrocious defensively but he can pass. See, how porous Arsenal's defense is..
Wenger who stupidly sold Coquelin, would never buy Ndidi. Coquelin while not as good as a destroyer is better in tight spaces and can dribble small yet Wenger sold him.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 6:17pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Seems the only "facts" you see are the "mbappe facts" while you as usual and unsurprisingly ignore the "Nacho facts".... Awwwwwwwn... You are doing such a good job with the super hypes of Road-Runner Mbappe... Loolll


Still in yawning mode mister..... I'm done.....
Yeah he was so hyped up he played well in the ucl in his first season. 6 goals. That's half the goals Nacho scored in 46 games for City despite Mbappe playing as a support striker.
It's Mbappe facts that Pep benched Nacho for Sterling because of his off the ball movement
It's Mbappe facts that when Gabriel Jesus signed for City, you were saying how he'd play as a winger and wouldn't be affected yet Jesus ended up benching both him and Nacho.
Mbappe facts are true facts!! Majority of football fans love Mbappe facts. Heck even Pep loves Mbappe facts!! grin grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 6:11pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
And soooo? undecided

Draw up a better parameter next time and include Vision and decision making. That way we get to see a more expansive picture... Thank you. wink
Mbappe still edges him in decision making. I've made that clear time and time again
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 6:09pm On Mar 14, 2018
Mickael2:
Make we go back to Ndidi. That boy's progress is one of the best things in Nigerian football
Oh no question about it. As a destroyer, he's right up there with some of the best. He needs to work more on his ball handling. He does that and we're looking at a world class DM. Other things like reading the game and interceptions, his pace and agility will always bail him out.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 6:06pm On Mar 14, 2018
Mickael2:
you need to be watching the current PSG match right now. Mbappe is on his way to a hattrick and the boy is just good
Proven himself in a Ligue un and UCL too. Yet he's overhyped according to some. Same Ligue un that Bernado Silva came from and is finally shining. Same Ligue Un that Mahrez, Kante and Payet came from.
Same Ligue un that produced the two players with the highest tackling/interceptions in their first season back in 15/16 ( Kante and Gueye). But hey...
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 6:03pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
It seems I have to repeat the same point over and over again.

I was captivated by Nacho's finishing and my stance has not change. Nacho is a more lethal finisher than Mbappe and Gabriel Jesus. Despite all the noise about Gabby, I watch him miss goals and sigh, Nacho will bury that. However, their other attributes, work rate, speed, skills and defending makes them a preference.

I respect the technical managers like Emery, Guardiola etc. They want the work rate over finishing. Just like Klopp prefers Firmino to Benteke or Guardiola prefers Gabriel Jesus to Aguero. I will pick Aguero ahead of Gabby any day.


The Spaniard (Guardiola) isn’t sold on the conventional striker, whose sole role is to find the back of the net and break scoring records, he also demands [b][/b]great off-the-ball work, technical prowess and tactical intelligence from his forwards. [/b]From Goal

When I watched Mbappe and Gabby Jesus, I did not see that lethal striking force I see in Nacho and rated Nacho ahead. Until today, Nacho is more lethal [b][/b]but in all round play they trump him. [b]


Gerrit?
@TheSuperNerd. This is coming from a city fan.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 6:00pm On Mar 14, 2018
Mickael2:
this matter never tire you?
Make i stop grin grin grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 5:59pm On Mar 14, 2018
safarigirl:
you said "Nacho with his port first touch"....I am attacking your statement that he has a poor first touch. Whether it is better than Mbappe's or not, is not my concern. I don't even watch Mbappe, so, I cannot speak on the comparison


I am only correcting your erroneous notion that Nacho's first touch is poor. It is not, is it better than Mbappe's? I don't know and I don't care
Until like 2 months ago, what was the major criticism people had of Nacho?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 5:57pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Actually I have watched them well enough and infact the poweplaying roadrunner is in action right now against Angers... cheesy Using his unreal speed and power as usual to good effect... And in a 1.5 league I must remind everyone. wink


But the tthing is you actually have obviously not taken your time to watch and Obserce Nacho as keenly as you do Mbappe and Gabby J. Especially Mbappe. smiley

It is really funny knowing that you find funny what I actually find factual....... Looooollllll.... You folks of the European club flavor just cannot bring yourself to admit that we have certain young players on par with or even better than most of overhyped foreign youngsters.

Believe me, I am just enjoying the evolution of Nacho showing time and times again what I know to be true based on observation. And showing you all there is much more to him than just being a fine forward hybrid. Mbappe keeps scoring the old damn way... Same as Gabby J...

But Nacho has scored in many different ways: with his head, his right foot, his left foot, from outside the box and from inside the box... And hey! He also curled in a lovely freekick... And his Vision and decision making trumps Mbappe all round...

So yeah.. It is funny having this talk with you because you obviously don't watch Nacho to observe, you just watch him casually. But you take your time with Mbappe and hype his every touch... Loooollll
1. He is playing as a RW. So yes he'll seem like a "Power runner" to you unlike some of us who watched him play in the youth teams
2. Thank you for mentioning a point which I forgot earlier - Ambidexterity. Mbappe is comfortable scoring with both feet and even the biggest Nacho fanboy wouldn't dream of comparing both on that.
3. Go watch all the goals Mbappe has scored. It's on youtube. Then tell me Nacho scores greater variety because he scored a freekick against Argentina.
I do watch well. It's how I picked up his 2 main qualities which he's probably world class at - Finishing(alot closer to world class) and a final ball. His off the ball movement is good but nothing special when compared to the likes of Mbappe and G Jesus. That's why Pep sold him. That's why Pep played Sterling as a false 9 even when Nacho was fit. These are facts!!
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 5:38pm On Mar 14, 2018
safarigirl:
which poor first touch? The one he has worked on abi you are still watching Nacho from January?

You people need to come and join us in March if you want to argue any point about players. You cannot be pulling out ancient cards to make your points.


Poor first touch indeed......
Nacho first touch is better than Mbappe??
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 5:37pm On Mar 14, 2018
Daejoyoung:
But what's really special about mbappe? lhenacho may not be living up to his full potential yet, but he is a more creative player from my angle. Abi na only me dey see am like dat?
Nacho obviously has a better final pass. I've been saying that since. However, that is the only thing you can say he edges out Mbappe in. Finishing can be argued too but I'll put them on par 6 out of 10 times
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 5:34pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
All this is yawn talk man.... I have hit on the major pointers. Not like I expect you to get it anyway...
Yeah you're right. It's becoming boring. The unbiased football fan will agree with me anyways. So yeah...
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 5:32pm On Mar 14, 2018
Mickael2:
Bloda Mi, how do you start replying this kind of comment sef
I'm already tired. Imagine arguing that Nacho with his poor first touch has better technique than Mbappe and better off the ball movement than Gabriel Jesus...the same Gabriel Jesus that is benching Aguero BECAUSE OF THAT SAME REASON. I'm just tired...
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 5:29pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
And I should take this obviously biased analysis of yours seriously? Those bolded are red flags man...

I should place two players waaayyyy above Nacho who has even scored a sumptuous freekick sef... Players who have not pulled off the kind of wickedly skillful assists Nacho don pull off this season twice!!!! (Excluding the others sef)... You say their technique is higher than Nacho's?

On skill, oh no... I watched G.Jesus at Palmeiras... Very skillful one. No arguments. BUT I SEE YOU LEAVE OUT PARAMETERS SUCH AS OVERALL VISION and DECISION MAKING. cheesy

Man.... You were right... This discussion is tiring... Red flags in your Mbappe-Nacho analysis man.... And in overall ability........ Even on two counts in your Jesus-Nacho talk.

But see ehn... you truly underrate keenly Nacho's technique despite claiming to watch him..... Why is it so hard to see what is obvious? Smh...
Like I said, you haven't watched Mbappe and Gabriel Jesus extensively enough. Just admit it. You seriously want to sit here and argue the bolded?? Lmaoooo this is very funny.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 5:28pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Same way if Nacho were French or English, no way will you keep belittling him the way you do whenever super hyped youngsters like Mbappe are mentioned. cheesy

As a football lover myself, I cannot accept the nonsense that saying a foreign player is better than any of ours is true only because we want to show that we are not blinded by patriotism even when in fact, our own Players actually are better ..... It just doesn't make sense to me. smiley

Iheanacho has shown multiple facets to his game. He has shown despite little game time his awesome improvement as an all-round attacker/forward. Dude is dangerous from both outside the box and inside the box where he can score with his head, left foot and right foot. Nacho has also shown he is dangerous from set-pieces. His eagle-eyed Vision and shooting accuracy is getting deadlier daily. Have Mbappe and Gabby J scored from a freekick yet?? But Nacho has... He is showing with time that his game is multifaceted and can become a true attacking weapon with many different ways of hurting opponents.

If you think coaches won't pick a player like that over a power-playing flashy road runner? You are on a long thing....
The fact that you think Mbappe is just a "Power playing road runner" alone is why I'm not really taking you seriously on this matter. It shows you haven't really watched him. He has pace, power, technique and skill. Is it his fault Nacho doesn't possess it?? Look this "everyone is against naija player talk" when it comes to defending our players is starting to become very lame.
I repeat - make Nacho and Mbappe of the same nationality and 8 out of 10 times Mbappe will be picked.
Pep who apparently hates black players was willing to Spend 36m on him before he even played his first full season.
Oh so scoring freekicks is now a means to show a play is well rounded?? Abeg no kill me with laugh. Apart from having a better final ball, they is nothing Nacho can do that Mbappe can't do...probably even better. Anyone who hears how you describe Mbappe will swear we were comparing Walcott to Robbie Fowler or something.
Facts is facts. Mbappe is better than Nacho. I don't care if Nacho is my brother. I'd even tell him to his face that Mbappe is better. Doesn't mean I don't think he's talented
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 4:38pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Wenger? So I brought up Pellegrini on nacho way back what did you say about that? Just like the way I brought up Ancelloti quotes on Mikel's class. Mourinho's quote too... even Scolari's. So if you want me to acknowledge Wenger... oray do acknowledge the other authorities too on our players. smiley

Nacho's Football IQ is way beyond just off-the-ball movement..... you know that but just waann ignore it. In a two striker system, Nacho too has shone like a million stars and so also has he done well in a lone striker system. And just as you guys love to point out one game of Nacho's struggles as a no.9, so also I brought up Dijon with Mbappe as a no.9 being so poor. It took place this season. wink

And I said Nacho's football IQ is higher than Mbappe's. Get the context. Nacho's own does not stop at off the ball movements... Nacho reads a game beautifully and knows what he wants to do with the ball. His decision making is much better than Mbappe. #Fact

And what is more ridiculous is you not acknowledging Nacho's football ingenuity. How can you possibly deny Nacho's growing class and Football IQ? cheesy because you just love Mbappe better abi? Nacho is not the fastest, but he got some very good pace and he also allows the ball do the running for him unlike Mbappe who must use fire and Brimstones to move the ball from A To B.

Nacho's Football IQ trumps Mbappe's and his all-round skillsets as a forward is far deadlier. Deadly from set-pieces, deadly from outside and inside the box... deadly in the air... ohhhh can't you see? Nacho is growing into a beast and Mbappe is still doing road-runner.
You wants to bring quotes praising both players?? I assure you if Mbappe was Nigerian, none of you guys would even dare say Nacho is a better allround player. One of the craziest things I've heard on here.
Me saying Mbappe is better than Nacho is denying Nacho's improvement as a player?? Mbappe is not improving as well?? Na wa oo.
Look, if Nigeria and France are playing, I'll support Nacho a 150 percent that day and claim he is better than Mbappe. But as a general football lover, I just can't accept that because it isn't true. The gap between Mbappe and Nacho is large..that is a fact!!
Turn those two to Nigerians and ask any coach to pick who is better and they'll pick Mbappe 8 out of 10 times
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 4:13pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Looolll... This season so far... Yes! I would say DrKlever is spot on. Mbappe is all pace, power and skills... But his decision making and his overall football IQ is way below Nacho's.

I once told you these two players will take different paths.

Mbappe will take the physical raw power, super pace, all skills route... He will be all flashy skills, mad pace and powerful on the run and in tussles.

But Iheanacho will take the "more brains less brawn" route.... Nacho's football IQ is pure bad ass. Even Mbappe fanboys have to admit this is true if they have been following the beautiful game this season. smiley
Go Google what Wenger said about Mbappe. Mbappe main strength is he plays like someone in his mid 20s. His off the ball movement is FAR better than Nacho. Dude has also shown he's quite versatile. He's played well in a 2 striker system, as a lone striker and outwide. So saying he has low football IQ is frankly one of the most ridiculous things I've heard on here.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 4:10pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Looolll... Like I haven't seen a few games of his in Ligue 1 too... Hahahahahahahahaha... He was so terrible against Dijon too in that 2-1 game where he played no.9. He has had a couple of very poor outings this season and his decision making has been piss poor.... Omo ehn... You guys asked for this.... Hahahahahahaha...

And as for Gabby Jesus, abeg no be so so tap-ins him dey score? Silva and Debrune and even Sane make it look so easy for whoever plays 9 for City. #Fact.

I have never seen these two score a freekick... Pray tell, have you seen? cheesy Ohhhhh... Perhaps they are still working on it...

Nacho this season for club and country has shown what he can offer from an all-round approach. This guy can shoot from outside the box... He can score tap-ins for fun too... He can slam in headers... He can take freekicks... He has excellent Vision... He can score with both feet... Mehn!!! He offers multiple threats as an attacker upfront. Always hard to tell what Nacho wanna do with the ball... His football IQ is high my friend. Really high for Someone who is still 21.

Biko note oooo... No mention of world class... He is not there yet afterall.. wink
Mbappe in a poor season has 11 in 20.
Mbappe > Nacho in terms of skill
Mbappe > Nacho in terms of Technique
Mbappe > Nacho in terms of off the ball movement
Mbappe = Nacho in terms of finishing
Mbappe < Nacho in terms of final pass.

Gabriel Jesus > Nacho in terms of skill (unless you didn't watch his at Palmerias)
Gabriel Jesus >/= in terms of technique
Gabriel Jesus > Nacho in terms of off the ball movement
Gabriel Jesus < Nacho in terms of finishing
Gabriel Jesus < Nacho in terms of final pass.

In terms of allround ability : Mbappe > Gabriel Jesus > Nacho.
As out and out strikers = Mbappe > Nacho (I love Nacho's finishing. Depending on the midfield he's playing in) > Gabriel Jesus. As strikers, both Mbappe and Gabriel Jesus have more to their game. This is clearly obvious to anyone who has watched all 3 extensively
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 3:33pm On Mar 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Ndidi commands the best tackling stats in the EPL.... He is the world ranking best Young DM in world football today. Across the big five leagues, he rules the breaking up play/tackling realms.... This guy is near world class already and will he only a matter of time before he is confirmed as a world class performer....

Is he better than Matic currently? Oh yes he is.... wink Especially in the EPL? Oui... Big Oui... grin

Talking about Nacho... That lad has scored from a freekick, scored with his right foot, scored with his left foot and scored with his head and provided intelligent assists so far in this 2017/2018 campaign for Club and Country... Plsss, pray tell what special thing have Gabby Jesus done other than scoring tap-ins? Or what has Mbappe done other than showing us how bleeping overhyped he is? Looooollll.... Not saying they are not fine talents, but making them look unstoppable is pure fallacy and shows an obsession with anything Euro club or euro/foreign talents allegiance and sentiments. It is truly a wrong and funny way to view football.... Hahahahahahahahaha...


Ah well.... What can we say? We will always have the Euro fan boys who cannot see pass their euro club allegiance noses... Such limited analysts they are.

Look, I have always maintained that Ndidi is not yet world class but he is also not far off. He is as close to being a near world class CDM and it will only take a matter of time before his absolute world class status is confirmed. I personally tipped him to hit world class status first before any member of the Young Super Eagles rising golden generation.

And with rumors of Liverpool and a few other big guns after Ndidi, maybe the events after Russia 2018 will reveal the full picture....


Meanwhile below.....

Matic: Hey Wilf! Take it easy man... Na fight? You fit tire pesin oooo.... See as I dey sweat and pant because of you for this midfield battle...


Ndidi: Football is being redefined everyday Papa Matic... Old things like you are passing away, new things like me are becoming the in-thing aiit.... So deal with it. wink








P.S: Hey.... This is the Super Eagles thread... Where you hit up on all the fun spots and various "truth" angles of our national team players and where we are not lost on the beautiful quality present in our players..... grin Welcome again... And Deal with it!
Bros don't start this Nacho vs Gabriel Jesus/Mbappe talk again. Mbappe has all of a sudden become Overhyped because he had poor games against Madrid.
This argument is becoming tiring. Anyone who watches all 3 know who is better.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 3:31pm On Mar 14, 2018
DrKlever:
Is Gabriel Jesus the tap in merchant and Mbapp who's all pace and skill but no football IQ better than Iheancho on present formhuh they are just fortunate to be selected to play. they ain't better than Nacho. simple!
Mbappe football IQ is lower than Nacho?? Ok oo.

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