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Logicboy03: i need your answers here please
https://www.nairaland.com/1135609/christian-answers-series-1-why

you say you are logicboy abi? Abeg o. If you didn't experience or let me use see or feel the big bang happening,how do you now claim its true. Such notion is even against science itself. I want proofs before i explode. Mi head is full with all this drama.

I don't care all u are saying. Mi only question that i want answered is that i want some1 to give me just one reason why all the apes and monkeys hasn't evolved to a complete human or why man hasn't evolved into something else. If i don't see any reasonable comment,then science is exactly as the beginner of this thread stated.

Logicboy03: Why do you run away from logical debates by trying to censor atheist arguments?

Why are you afraid of your children mixing with atheist children?

Why are you silent when evidence is shown to you that less religious countries perform better?

Why are you quick to denounce your memebers who do evil with the backing of the holy books as "fake christians" or "not real muslims"?

Why are you afraid to question your God? Why is he afraid to talk to atheists?

Why are you forced to admit that majority of your members are not "true muslims" or "true christians"?

I like your questions. You are knowledgable. Buh can i tell you that i don't back down from anything i start. On facebook your fellow atheists who are mainly americans and europeans ran from me after throwing insults. Some even blocked me. I want to also let you know that you can not totally conclude you have real knowledge. You can not claim that religion is the bane of any countries development because most religious african countries are far behind other parts of d world development wise long before orthodox religious practices reached our shores. About questioning God,a lot of men did that in the bible and we can still do the same today. The bible urges all to not ignorantly believe in all things they here as word of God buh to test it out first.

Kenistry: den u r as dumb as i imagine. Dats d main connectn to d whol stuff. hw will d teacher attacked him if he had given d correct ans of a verb. Smh

guy abeg make u chill naw. Na must make u quarrel? Abi is this the first time someone no like the thing you do? Na so you dey quarrel 'bout chill joor.

bin gbagbo:

big bin gbagbosky

Atheist:-D:
What is the benefit of believing in the supernatural?

Not only believing practising too. Mi lasu comment has some of d answers and there are more. I don't want to ask buh what's the benefit of not believing? K. I already did. Buh you can ignore it. Mi own problem is stated in mi last comment. I was once involved in it and i've seen things happening live. Just want you to clarify mi on the experience since the claim is "no spiritual,only physical" because i know it was not in a dream that i saw all i saw.

barefootbandit: [color=#006600][/color]

the normal claim is that the spiritual doesn't exist. I am a witness of the spiritual. I really need you to tell me about wat i experienced if you really think you know more about it. Try prove the otherwise. I await your comments with all eagerness.

I appreciate all your comments. There're all educating. I am once a traditional practicer so when you still stand on the saying that nothing goes beyond the spiritual,i will always beg to differ not until you help me prove me wrong. i've seen and participated in spiritism for really long a time. That's mi point. I need your educating comments on this issue. I've seriously witnessed magic. Mi father was once an idol worshipper and u can't poison him even with mosquito killer. I witnessed the signs miself.

advocate666: what is the purpose?

just can't see any reason why any african will believe there's nothing apart from the physical.. So i will like to here the reasons for that stand. I discussed at lenght with most whites about the issue on atheist republic's page. I want to hear the atheists in nigeria speak on the matter.

I want to request the audience of all atheists in this forum. I will stop discussing if any of you turn mi thread into a place where you can rain insults because it happened to me in facebook only one atheist MO FO SHO acted otherwise even talking reasonably with his counterparts. I am interested in reasonableness. Try prove your reason or point for atheism. I will respond as i stated.

Teacher asks Akpors.
Teacher: 2+2
Akpors:4
Teacher:15+30i
Akpors:45.
Teacher now impressed
Teacher:200+200
Akpors:overpopulation

Teacher: If u have 10
doughnuts and someones
asks for 2, how many do u
have left?
Akpors: 10 doughnuts.
Teacher (understanding
how naughty Akpors could
be): OĶ, well what if
the person forcefully takes
2 doughnuts, what do u
have left.
Akpors: 10 DOUGHNUTS
AND 1 DEAD BODY.

Webleonaides: SWAP is a term used between two parties where there is an exchange of goods...its what you call trade by barter!!!
Let the swapping begins....

when i do things,i like doing them face2face. I want to swap mi branded compac pc for a laptop. Tell me your pricing and where i can find you. Or call me if you are open to the offer 080**"""""""""

logicboy01: This question goes out to the religious people in Nigeria; What is the argument against atheism in Nigeria? .

Less that one percent of Nigerians are atheists. Is that really a good statistic?


As an atheist, I will put forward my reasons for atheism in Nigeria;


1) Relgion has failed Nigeria; When we look at christianity and islam in Nigeria, they have added to the corruption and poverty in Nigeria, rather than curb the corruption. Also religion has added to human rights abuse in Nigeria.
-Prosperity pastors ripping poor people off
-Religious southern politicians still stealing money.
-Religious northern politicians smuggling under-aged girls for marriage from North Africa.
-Pastors slapping young girls
-Boko Haram and terrorism

Not all religious people are corrupt but the important ones in Nigeria are quite corrupt. I will concede that most religious people have good intentions and not all religious people are bad. There is no guarantee that atheism will make Nigeria perfect. The evidence that we can point to is that the most peaceful countries (Peace index) and the most developed(human development index) are atheistsic or very secular.


2) Atheism is less divisive on deadly issues; Religion can unite people of the same faith but it can be deadly and divisive when it comes to people of different faiths. Nigeria is divided by religion into the north and south. Nigeria has the rare practice of having two sets of national laws with sharia differing from the common law.

Atheists from all backgrounds might not agree on millions of things but at least, they are not divided on a deadly/controversial issue like religion. Furthermore, atheist are more likely to focus on humans before God, gods or scriptures. Secular humanism?


3) Appreciation of our culture; Nigeria is not historically a christian or muslim country. Nigeria was a country of numerous tribal pagan religions. Christianity and Islam, by their nature, are not going to look favourably at keeping relics of paganism in museums and in villages alive, at least for tourism and history lessons for children. For instance, Japanese people keep their culture and history alive by maintaining Shinto shrines for people to see their heritage- Japanese people do not believe in religion (mostly atheists + irreligious) but they keep it for historical and cultural reasons.

While I personally do not believe in paganism, I think that we should keep our shrines and idols for people to see what our forefathers did in their time. This could also be a tourist attraction like the Shinto shrines in Japan

https://www.scncucc.org/voices/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ShintoShrine.jpg

https://images.travelpod.com/users/pedalpaddle/10.1250255164.izumo-izumo-taisha-grand-shinto-shrine_6.jpg

4) The commonwealth argument; The British who brought christianity to Nigeria are not as religious as Nigeria. Studies even show that about 40 percent in the UK are not religious and 20% are atheists. Why is this so? Why is it that the country that brought christianity to Nigeria is rejecting it and they (the UK) are better off than Nigeria? Does God love secular countries or are secular countries just more developed?



I would like to see counter-arguments (Arguments against atheism in Nigeria) or thoughts about the arguments I made. Cheers!

u are a nigerian and u are a supporter of atheism. Dat's one faulty tin with u. U claim christianity and islam are foreign, wat abt atheism? Just say u are a traditionalist and i will knw u are a nigerian with nigerian culture. Do u knw wat atheism entails?

musKeeto: Great points. But i think we should preach more on tolerance and seek to have more educated and learned people on the pulpits instead of idiots who claim to have received a CALL from the Lord.... the christian gangster currently leading CAN is an example..

thumbs up. I lyk ur talk

Kobojunkie: I am with you on this question @OP. The Claim is that the partying is to celebrate what the departed did during his time here but in many cases, the departed mostly endured life and did nothing worth celebrating.

To me it is sort of like throwing a birthday bash for someone who has no clue that you are doing that in the first place, is not present and really does not give a darn.

let me tell u y. Its celebration for d lucky person who has left dis debauched world. I tink when a child is born ppl should cry for d poor soul enterin dis troublesome world. Lol

elrony: Lol madam why d hate na?...a dude doesnt nid 2 be 6ft 2 b sexy u knw..

maybe u don't knw. 3ft is also considered sexy,nonsense talk.

sodiqmoruf: Utter gibberish....sexy my butt

na only foot? Sexy my yansh. Abi na 4 him yansh im sexy? D magazine dem dey c wit their yansh. They've all gone nuts. I knw its not mi biz o buh dat's an insult.

edogho: Anyone interested in buying a plot of land at PEACE estate in IBA local govt area contact me on my email account saturnite@yahoo.com or my google account saturnboy23@gmail.com

Nobody should try to purchase or contact me on this issue because the land has already been sold. Beware,do not let anyone lure and scam you. Thanks for your time.

excelsiorfarm: Ayodele in life there are two sides to a thing,we all see either half full or half empty.Read d post again i said customise items,i gave examples on from d discuss & d issue of exercise book came up.No one ask you to go produce exercise without demand,all i said is partner with a printer who is into customizing items,you just go with your biz cards to schools,corporate bodies,churches etc that you will customize d books with their logo or outlook.Meaning when you dont have demand,you dont print.

still wondering why you chose to reply that comment.

pixconsult: If your claim is actually true and real, why did you wipe out the depositor's name on the teller? Sorry i mean no harm, just curious, cos so many people come to this site to lay false claims

what wud anybody gain by coming here to make claims he can neva get a refund on? I tink i believe him. As 4 d depositors name,maybe its just how d tellers operate,sumtyms d one below d bank's copy will be invisible. I av experienced it severally.

[b][/b] one more tin o. Don't eva tink of calling d phone numbers on vacancy posters u c around o. U will waste both airtime and time. Ritualist almost carry me because of giving it a try.

Fancy mi own parents givin in on such a prank. I pity that child.

can we be friemds? saturrnite@yahoo.com needs help on programming

I connected my nokia 5310 xpressmusic to my PC but it was too slow. Wat can i do to browse faster?

Anyone interested in buying a plot of land at PEACE estate in IBA local govt area contact me on my email account ********

:oplease o! dont allow chickens to see this o! else dem go begin find gun carry for dec 25 cabretors :Psorry celebrators