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TheGoodJoe:
“Pep asked me to try a new way of playing and I had to adapt. It wasn’t easy but I had no choice,” Aguero said in the new book Pep’s City: The Making of a Superteam, which is serialised in The Sun.


“My game is totally different now from what I was doing five years ago at City. A total transformation. At that meal, we talked about loads of things.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/sergio-aguero-pep-guardiola-man-city-dinner-a9151746.html%3famp

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Guardiola made his point clear to Guardiola. You will bench if you do not adapt to my methods. He benched Aguero until Aguero had dinner with him and made up his mind to transform his game.

Can you give me consecutive matches where Jesus started ahead of Aguero despite Aguero being in the match day squad

Danielnino00:
Was Gabriel Jesus not starting ahead of Aguero when he joined ?
That's the point I made in my first paragraph..

It was on this same thread that some people mocked Guardiola for dumping Iheanacho ahead of Jesus..

Anyway,I think TheGoodJoe has validated my point .

Asides the matches against Leicester, West Ham and swansea, he did not bench Aguero when he joined in 2017, he started only two of those matches consecutively

TheGoodJoe:
cc: Danielnino00

Sergio Aguero to Real Madrid: Manchester City striker eyes big-money return to Spanish capital after Gabriel Jesus nicked his spot

The Manchester City striker faces an uncertain future at the Etihad after the arrival of Gabriel Jesus from Palmeiras.

But it will take over £60million before City even consider selling Aguero to a Champions League rival.

Aguero was snubbed for Jesus when he arrived in January, before a fractured metatarsal kept him out of acton for two months and allowed Aguero to regain his starting spot.

Yet he has no intention of spending any more time on the Etihad bench — and wants the Real move to happen this summer.

Although Aguero has held talks with City chief Pep Guardiola about his future, the Catalan coach refused to assure him of a first-choice role.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/2960942/sergio-aguero-real-madrid-manchester-city-transfer-news/amp/

Jesus is growing impatient but admits it's difficult to take Aguero's place

Gabriel Jesus is growing impatient over his limited opportunities at Manchester City but admits it will be difficult to take Sergio Aguero's place in the team.

The 22-year-old Brazil striker arrived at the Etihad in January 2017 as Aguero's long-term replacement and has been forced to bide his time by City's all-time record goal scorer.

Jesus found it hard being left out last season, but he returned with a more positive attitude in the summer and has scored three goals from as many starts for Pep Guardiola's team this term.


He said:I'm over the "I have to wait (for a chance)" phase. I've been here for almost three years, it's my fourth season, and that makes me want to play more.

'Obviously it's very hard to compete for a place with Aguero, the biggest legend of this club, although it's good for the team - he plays well when in the team and I do the same.

'I do understand Pep's decisions and respect Sergio, his history here and what he's doing now.[b]

'People say that I'm a sub in a negative way but they forget [b]I'm not in the bench due to bad performances. It's because Aguero has been superb. I've learnt not how to wait but how to understand this situation.' Jesus told Brazil TV station Esporte Interativo: 'Personally, last season was very hard. I didn't get the chance to play in many games and many important games


https://m.allfootballapp.com/news/EPL/Jesus-is-growing-impatient-but-admits-its-difficult-to-take-Agueros-place/1834721

komekn:
Unfortunately Klopp doesn't agree with you Lol.

Otherwise Liverpool would have got him ages ago, as you know Klopp is German and would know all about Werner.

Maybe or maybe he had high hopes and expectations for the other center forwards then, the likes of Solanke, Ings, Sturridge

I read they're renegotiating the Werner deal though

Danielnino00:
When Gabriel Jesus first joined Man City,he was starting ahead of Aguero.. And he wasn't scoring goals.. it got so bad that some fans started to say it would have been better to keep iheanacho in the team... Guardiola had to return Aguero to the starting lineup when things got bad...we remember it very well.. Aguero is a better goal scorer but Jesus had the qualities that Guardiola like in his players .Even TheGoodJoe has admitted that..

It's like I said, a lot of coaches have their preference for players . Firmino isn't a good goal scorer but he is very hard-working..he creates chances and goal scoring opportunities for his team mates..be has created 48 big chances in the premier league, not even the likes of Lampard,Gerrard or Giggs created that much chances during their premier league playing days .
The bottom line: Klopp likes his style of play... If Werner won't deliver the kind of things Firmino does,he won't start..that's the bitter truth..

That being said,here's Firmino and Jesus stats for Liverpool and Man City in all competitions

Firmino - 235 apps, 77 goals , 59 assists (1.72 G/A per game )

Jesus - 139 apps 63 goals 25 assists (1.57 G/A per game )

2017/18
Jesus- 13 matches started
Aguero- 22 matches started
2018/19
Jesus- 8 matches started
Aguero- 31 matches started
2019/20
Jesus- 13
Aguero- 17

Here you go, Jesus was never starting ahead of Aguero

Guardiola might like the qualities of Jesus but Aguero will always be preferred going forward because he scores and Klopp won't drop Werner if he scores every now and then hardworking or not

Darthvader93:
This write up is as good as that atheist & proud guy that you referenced.

Very contextual and factual. I hope spambots no ban you for those links. This is very educative, thank you.

I hope note

TheLoneCitizen:
The screenshoots show that both players have an added ability of winning possession.

Regarding their roles, Firmino drops deep to create chances for the team. That is an Advanced Forward.
Osimhen on the other hand hangs around the last defender waiting for chances to finish. That's a poacher. If the ball is played into the box, a poacher has to be available to finish.
But an Advanced Forward doesn't need to hang around the defence.

Look at Firmino's heat map over the last 3 seasons compared to Osimhen. It is as though Firmino doesn't want to get into the box. It's only this season he manages to get in more, due to the emergence of their attacking wingbacks. But Osimhen heat map in the box is very strong.

And lastly, since the 2013/14 season, Firmino has not provided less than 7 assists per season. 6 seasons in a row now.
They are very different kind of strikers man.

Pic 1: Firmino
Pic 2: Osimhen

They are very different kind of strikers is my point, you hinted at the firmino trait that makes Osimhen one of the most sort after strikers and the first screenshot clearly shows that Osimhen doesn't just hang around the last defender but also tries to the ball in Midfield

TheLoneCitizen:
"Firmino whose stats are his passes and tackles" has 24G+A this season. Firmino is an Advanced Forward, he has to create chances and score goals. Osimhen is a poacher has to just score.

The screenshots you shared clearly shows he doesn't just score, so if Firmino is an advanced striker I wonder what Osimhen is

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Note that this thread is for enlightenment only


For a couple of years now Nigeria Transsion phone users have complained about their different problems with the using of their devices the Tecno, Infinix and itel this has prompted many users to try new brands like Samsung, Lenovo, LG and the relatively new to the Nigerian Market Xiaomi


Despite popular beliefs that their smartphones are cheap, their Low-end, Mid-range and High-End devices are rather expensive when compared with devices of the same specs this also means that you can get a better Non-Transsion phone for the same amount. Visit The Nairaland Thread On This


It’s open secret that Transsion Holding has a firm grip on the Nigerian and the larger African market but they seem not to pay attention to fact that most Nigerians and Africans don’t earn as much as Europeans to get expensive phones with inferior specs
With that said, the reports of Transsion giving out false information on the camera lenses their phones most notably the Camon 15 Pro, Camon 15 and Camon 15 Premier is not true. This camera spec was achieved through pixel binning.

Since 12mp is the current ideal resolution for smart phone sensors, this spec is rather deceptive in the sense that the output image from a binned shot will be 1/4 of the Sensor i.e


The Camon 15 and it’s pro with 48mp Sensor will actually give a shot of 12mp (48/4).

Likewise the Camon 15 Premier with 64mp gives shot of 16mp


Most Smartphone companies make use of photo binning from Samsung to Tecno to Xiaomi. According to Android Authority, if a manufacturer has a phone with a 32mp, 40mp or 48mp camera with the new 64mp and 108mp, then it is using photo binning technology; Phones like the Redmi Note 7 series, Xiaomi Mi 9 and later Samsung A and S series use it


Obviously a 64mp camera will be a better selling point than a 16mp camera. This confirms beliefs that most Nigerians and Africans only care about the type of Camera, the Battery capacity and the RAM the phone has and not knowing that these specs can be deceptive (As we’ve seen with the Camon 15 and it’s varients) and they also depend on a variety of things with the most important being “The Smartphone Processor” to get the maximum out of them.


The Smartphone’s processor is the literal “Brain” of the Smartphone and no matter the amount of RAM a phone is sporting if the Processor (The Brain) cannot perform the task you require of it, it simply won’t perform it.

It would be like telling a heavily built Senior Secondary Student of 15 year old to write an Exam for a lanky University Undergraduate.


The processor, among other things; should no doubt determine how expensive a phone should be, we’ve seen it with the iPhone, Samsung, Xiaomi but that is not the case for Transsion Phones whose price is determined by the Screen Size, The Battery Capacity, Camera and RAM


Taking the Camon 15 with the Helio P22 processor retailing at N 66,600

https://fdn2.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/tecno/tecno-camon-15-1.jpg

Phones like Redmi 6, Realme C2 also have this same processor but both retail at N41,000


Camon 15 pro with Helio P35 processor retailing at N 95,000
https://fdn2.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/tecno/tecno-camon-15-pro-1.jpg

Some phones with this Helio P35 processor sell for far less

Motorola Moto G8- N69,750
Huawei Honor Play 9A (64GB variant)- N 65,900
Vivo Y3- N66,000
Xiaomi Mi Play- N55,500


Some People argue that the After Sale Service is responsible for this high price but then again when the phone is ordered from a Country where Transsion don’t have a presence and no After Sale Service, they will still pay the normal price for the device.

After Sale Services is out of the question since you’ll still pay for phone repair

Surely Transsion have to revise the price tag they slam on their phones which is relatively a major problem unknown to most Nigerians.

BascoVanVeli:
Osimhen is just as good defensively as Firmino.

Maybe but also better than Firmino attack wise

TheLoneCitizen:
Do you know that this is the same reason why Osimhen is one of the most sought after strikers in the world?

Very important aspect of a forward.

Osimhen and Firmino play different type of football

Osimhen is an attacking threat that scores as a proper 9 that cannot be said for firmino whose stats are his passes and tackles

I've not seen Osimhen play as an attacking midfielder but I trust he will play it that's how versatile he is but I cannot say the same for firmino playing as a proper striker

Hanibal:
Jesus is the Guardiola kind of striker, not necessarily a proper striker, Guardiola likes small, skillful stikers that can also defend from the front.
Jesus can not survive in a mourinho or Alex Ferguson team.
When you want to mention "proper strikers"
You mention people like Harry Kane, Lewandowski, Diego Costa, Higuain ,Lukaku....
No be smallies like Jesus.

Lewandowski, lukaku are just as skillful as Jesus and they're proper strikers, sure guardiola likes skillful strikers but then again a striker that gives result will be taken over a skillful one

Mourinho likes a Target man strikers that doesn't track back to try and defend when they lose position and know how to take chances when they come, not many strikers have that ability

Hanibal:
of course Jesus will bench firmino at city, but it'll not be for footballing reasons.
Gabriel Jesus dey bench Aguero na.
So forget the talk, nobody can bench Guardiola's favorite son goals or no goals he'll play.

But how Jesus dey bench Aguero when the same Aguero has started more games and played more minutes?
Guardiola's favorite son is not benching Arguero finito

Danielnino00:
What makes him "unlike" Firmino?
How many goals and assists does be provide every season ?
Aguero scores more than him,yet Pep prefers him to Aguero most times,why??

Aguero is an experienced world class striker, which coach wouldn't prefer him to jesus? Mind you he has more minutes played than jesus and has also started more matches than him

Jesus is a proper striker, no sane coach will start firmino ahead of him

komekn:
There are two different philosophies and systems that Liverpooland Man City teams play.

The system that Firmino plays is almost like an attacking midfielder but a very hard working one that creates, attacks, defends and supports Mane and Salah who don't exactly play as traditional wingers.

The Wing back role is very crucial to Liverpool game plan not surprisingly see the number of assists Trent and Robertson create.

Liverpool will fit an out and out striker and you will have to be very technically astute as well.

It did not work for Balotelli and Benteke and they were quality strikers. So strikers coming to Liverpool better have this in mind. Or see your career go south.

But then again his primary job as a striker is to score and assist while Henderson and Wijnadum should be doing the tackling in center midfield

Even though Klopp might probably start firmino, Timo Werner would have played his position like a champ and shown firmino how to convert Arnold and Robertson's crosses

Teams will rather have a proper goal contributing striker than one that tries to gather defensive stats

andrewbaba44:
Brazil national team is there for us to see

Check their stats and appearance

One has been playing for Brazil for 6 years and one have been playing for Brazil for 4 years

Ah!
this is an awesome enlightening info that I didn't know

Jesus has more goals for the national team sef �

Danielnino00:
Gabriel Jesus is starting at Man City..
Is he a prolific goal scorer?

Gabriel Jesus unlike firminho scores goals and also assists and he's also productive from the wings he will definitely bench firmino if he makes the mistake of signing with Man City

Danielnino00:
Lol okay o.

We Sha thank God that we have him with us... A striker that drops deep to hustle for the ball... A striker that creates chances (48 big chances created in the premier league), a striker that creates space for the wingers ..A striker that can tackle(had over 90 tackles in one EPL campaign)

We thank God for giving us Roberto Firmino!

Obviously he his good but he won't start in any of the top 6 teams

Make una dey calm down with the hype

Candyness:
Y'all to broke to be chatting to me ok. You rich? I don't think so!

lols move ahead ugly mofo
You will be ignored with your reply

Danielnino00:
You just don't understand.. You were talking about Werner being more prolific and I gave you Origi as an example.. Check Origi's goal to game ratio and compare it with Firmino...
Sometimes when Origi plays,he is deployed on the wing...even Salah,Mane and Wijnaldum have been used as false9s ..

It's not just about scoring goals... If you remove Firmino from that lineup,Salah and Mane won't be at the level they are now,I can assure you that...

Mane and Salah will still perform and score goals wether or not firminho plays besides most of their goals have come from the wings
He doesn't do anything special in that Liverpool team

nihilistjnr:
Maybe this is one of those Nairalanders that was shouting racism that day.

He didn't go and burn SARS and operation sweep truck in Naija.

What a dumb reason to go to jail.

They no fit cover their tracks

Candyness:
Y'all men need to stop with the pm. My inbox has almost 500 messages asking me for a date. To make things worse, they are ugly

Hey! don't put me in that bracket of Y'all, Did you see my message among those 500 messages? I literally don't care about you, I advised you to ignore the comments but if you like the attention then by all means

peace

Subzero047:
When they perform better than the government backed teams they would have no option than to beg to represent them

If they're leaving LMC completely teams won't give up their CAF positions even if the private teams are doing better, it will even be unfair

kingxsamz:
All stories sound similar because that's the belief that's being passed around. Same way most people believe there are witches in benin that can fly.

obviously they are not true but when old Edo women come out and confirm that they are witches people tend to be believe witches are real

Subzero047:
Going private is the best thing for the Nigerian league, every thing government touches scatters

But they won't be recognized to participate in Caf competitions, unless they will still keep teams in Npfl and come up with new teams but with different names

Nigeria Private club owners led by Ifeanyi Ubah and Kunle Soname want to form a separate league, aside the Nigeria Professional Football League due to the an unfair treatment from the league board, however the winner of the league will get a N100million, twice the winner of the Nigeria Professional Football League.

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I don't know how true this is

Clint02:
Awaziem's crosses into the opponent's box can cause havoc sha.

I don't know about his crosses but I prefer him in the RB position for super eagles until Ehizibue changes my mind

1Sharon:
I was told something similar..Nigerians just love to circulate baseless stories abeg

I agree

I cannot explain that feeling tends to be make people want to believe that there is something supernatural happening around us even when it's unreal

Danielnino00:
This picture doesn't tell the true story..

Werner really wanted Liverpool... But apparently the coronavirus pandemic has affected our finance and we aren't willing to pay his €50m release clause..
Again,it's unlikely that Klopp would destabilize the front 3 of Salah,Firmino and Mane to accommodate him..he would have been a back up to them..
Chelsea appear to be willing to do the opposite of that..


Manyoo also tried their luck Sha.

I thought Nike was sponsoring your top signings?

Wether that news is even true sef I'm glad they didn't see Werner

It doesn't even seem as though Mane is moving anytime soon for the supposed Mbappe signing

1Sharon:
I never said that

I know you didn't, just wanted to know what you think

1Sharon:
I've heard something similar like this

So do you think there's any iota of truth in there