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You've just gotten home after a long day. You don't want to spend too much time cooking. What is the first thing you'll think of preparing for yourself for dinner that won't take much time?

For me, I usually just make eggs. But I'd love to hear other quick meal ideas.

Oh wow. I skimmed the post and misread it, thought he wanted a sum too. My bad. .

Heh.

That I can agree on. I wasn't planning on wasting any more time 'splaining to you anyways. I guess I just need to learn to ignore you subjects like this. Note to self: On things related to economics, pay as much attention to KoboJ as you pay to Fstranger in general.

You can do it in closed form, I think. So no reason to do any looping.

sum of the even numbers from 0 to 50 is equal to 2 times the sum of the numbers from 0 to 25. And there is a closed form expression for the latter (don't recall it off the top of my head, but it is on wikipedia.)

Seems like a lot of wahala.

Why do this?

Kobojunkie:
Nimrod, you are told that Agricultural sector contributes about 40%, yet you dey ask me if I assume agriculture contributes about 40 %?? Which kind yeye question be that one? Again, if you do not know, don't assume we are all as ignorant as you are. Better yet, let those who are knowledgable in the area come explain it to you.

There are TWO different ways any sector of the economy can contribute. It can contribute to aggregate GDP, and it can also contribute to GDP growth.

Telecoms is probably what, 5 or 6% of the GDP of Nigeria. But contributes higher to GDP growth since it is growing much more rapidly than the other sectors of the economy.

Do you get this point, or not? This is why your post here (https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-805178.0.html#msg9573983) made absolutely no sense.

If 20% of my stock portfolio is Motorola, but Motorola went up 40% for the year while the rest of my portfolio went up only 5%, then it is obvious that Motorola is contributing more to my portfolio's growth than the other stocks, right? In fact, using the #s in this example, Motorola is contributing roughly 67% of my growth despite being only 20% of my portfolio.

Is the point absolutely, crystal clear now?

Kobo. Agric contrbutes roughly 40% to GDP, yes. But this doesn't mean that it has contributed 40% to GDP growth.

We are talking about the impact of GDP growth on unemployment, right? That Nigeria has recorded high GDP growth, yet unemployment doesn't seem to be improving (and to completely avoid any possibility of confusion, by improving I mean decreasing)?

If so, then why do you keep bringing up agric's share of the economy, rather than how quickly it is growing?

Do you get that there is a difference between GDP and GDP growth rate? And how the latter is more relevant for this particular discussion than the former?

Regarding "ethnic divide", I am in fact claiming that I don't believe that they are lazier. The point was to diagnose the problem (vastly higher unemployment in the north, and an unemployment rate there that seems to get worse even with growing gdp across Nigeria) and propose a solution (better connectivity between north and south.) Granted, maybe my solution is a bad one. But it appears that you didn't even understand the point being made.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=805064.msg9574253#msg9574253 date=1321506358]Kept what? What records?
If I remembered correctly, birth certificates in Ekiti start became "required" beginning at the latest period of my mother's generation. Correct me tho.

Yea, let her be an "ex", find someone younger than you. But for another thread [/quote]Hrm I dunno if they were required, but both of my grandfathers had 'em. You might be right though, maybe not mandatory? I'll ask around sometime.

ogugua88:
No, I'm not a radical feminist lol. Are men that aren't in a rush to marry considered radicals? I don't need that kind of formality, personally, and as far as I'm considered, marriage and dating are the same thing these days. If I ever cross those waters, however, three people will attend my wedding. Myself, the man, and the person performing the wedding

Hrm, interesting. Btw nice dodge of the implicit question I asked.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=805064.msg9574215#msg9574215 date=1321505803]i dont know what the culture is where pleep comes from, but in yorubaland in general and ekiti in particular, young men do not run after older women.

if you want to be a radical who wants to revolutionize that sort of stuff, then i guess your leg suppose to waka outside.[/quote]Tpia, I am not sure why you think I am asking for myself. This thread has nothing to do with me, was just a general commentary.

Thanks for your concern, though (I'm not being sarcastic, I genuinely appreciate it.)

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=805064.msg9574206#msg9574206 date=1321505522]^^So your gf is older than you? [/quote]Eh, she is. By about 1.5 years or so. But I dunno if I should say "gf" any more lol. It is a long story (not for this thread.)

ekt bear, you know that's back then, we didnt keep records of our age and it wasnt much of a big deal. My aunt made up a birthday for herself because such records were not kept.

40s and 50s? Naw my folks kept records even in the 1910s, 1920s and such.

ogugua88:
[b]Marriage isn't necessary to me. It's not something I plan on doing. [/b]If it happens, it happens. If not, then it doesn't lol. I don't want to have kids until I'm about 30 anyway, so, in my case, it'll work out.

Hrm. Radical feminist?  Never gotten this vibe from you before. Also,won't your guy be upset at bolded?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=805064.msg9574195#msg9574195 date=1321505215]ekt bear, I hope your gf aint older than you.

We dont do that abomination where we come from o. Just saying.[/quote]It is funny though. Evidently my grandfather's wife (my grandmother) was like 2-3 years older than him. So isn't quite true.

I don't know enough either way to conclude, you may be right.

Anyway, for you, how many years younger (if any)?

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=805064.msg9574078#msg9574078 date=1321502736]i mean he started off in this manner.

running after older women than him until his crappiness was fully revealed.

but with a user id named pleep i guess the joke's on whoever thought he was a human being to begin with.[/quote]Lol.

He seemed like a good dude to me. I guess you've had a bad experience.

Anyway nothing wrong with having a fetish for older women lol.

ogugua88:
Yes, of course I would. To me, age is nothing but a number. If we respect each other and have feelings for each other, then a number won't change any of that. People don't fall for one another because of the age difference between them; it's irrelevant.

What of the practical aspects? E.g. kids, marriage? I guess the problem when the woman is older (say by 4 or 5 years) is that her time-frame for getting married and having kids is going to be much shorter than the guy's (at least in principle.)

Lol.

KoboJ doing another KoboDodge. Rather than admitting her mistake and owning up to her illogical reasoning about agric's contribution to GDP growth and employment, it is someone else who is misinterpreting the #s.

Anyway, thanks for your advice. But perhaps best if you apply the medicine you are prescribing for others to yourself.

Kobo, are you basically assuming that because agric is roughly 40% of GDP, it also contributed roughly 40% to GDP growth?

This isn't necessarily true, of course. Some sectors grow faster than others.

Anyway, even if agric contributed 100% to GDP growth (i.e., agric is growing at X% and non-agric is growing at 0%), it doesn't at all suggest that many jobs would be created. It depends on what type of jobs are being added, in what manner agric is growing, etc.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=805064.msg9574036#msg9574036 date=1321501745]isnt this how pleep started till he revealed himself as the useless thing that he is? [/quote]What do you mean?

Kobojunkie:
What the frell does that ramble to do with this thread? Why are you so keen on turning this into another DIVIDE-NIGERIA thread ? If they openly announce to all that they choose laziness, what in the world has that to do with the figures in the pages and how it does not make sense when you consider what you have in EVERYWHERE Nigeria? https://images-5.findicons.com/files/icons/1039/manto/128/despise.png

1. We see that unemployment is high.
2. Most of us think that high unemployment is bad.
3. We also see that unemployment is far higher in one part of the country than the other.

If your goal is to reduce unemployment, don't you have to figure out why #3 is happening? Or is there a way to do this without dealing with #3?

Kobojunkie:
Abegi!!! dem tell you say your country record say Agriculture contributed about 40% of GDP growth and you come back with that question? How many small scale farmers we get sef wey you think fit contribute significant part of that figure  

1.  Where are you seeing that 40% of GDP growth is agric?
2. I have no clue what your second question is asking. So you are saying that you think large farmers are more responsible for the growth in agric rather than small farmers? Personally I have no clue what the answer is (big farmers or small). If you think one or the other, what is your reasoning?

Glancing again at the 2010 report, it is clear that most of the unemployment seems to be in the north.

Does the poor infrastructure connecting north and south hurt them. . .?

I don't think they are intrinsically lazier or worse human beings than southerners.

But if you are far away from the coast, transportation to the coast is terrible, there is no electricity, no manufacturing, no industry, what exactly is one expected to do for a living?

Not enough to build good infrastructure in your region, you need excellent infrastructure connecting you to the outside world. Otherwise unemployment will remain high (at least, this is my guess.)

Is agric 44% of the GDP growth? Where are you reading that?

Of this growth, how much is large-scale mechanized farms (that don't require much labor, and thus won't help much with unemployment), and how much is labor-intensive farming (a guy with a hoe and cutlass breaking his back over a plot of land)?

KoboJ: It makes sense to me. At least the broad trend.

In a nutshell, given Nigeria's relatively high population growth, we cannot really expect unemployment to decrease substantially without industrialization. For every job you manage to create, probably 3 or 4 people enter the job market (an exaggeration, but I think conveys the point.)

Also, I've seen a report before that suggests that unemployment is decreasing in the south, but increasing in the north. Report on the CBN site by Soludo from a talk he gave a few years ago.

So there are also regional effects coming into play.

Yeah it is kind of weird.

Sort of a jobless growth?

Figure 5.1.10 on page 12 of this at first glance is kind of disturbing.

So jobs are being created, but not enough to compensate for the additional populace, I suppose.

Also a state-by-state breakdown on page 13 of the same doc. I haven't been able to find the 2011 version of this doc tha the OP's article mentions. If anyone finds it, let me know.

I guess it sort of makes sense. . . most of these high-growth sectors in the Nigerian economy (e.g., telecoms) don't require that much labor. To really attack unemployment, you need manufacturing. Which requires electricity.

Makes sense. Relatively cheap these days to search through large amounts of data. You'd expect the CIA to take advantage of this.

lol

Oil is only 20-30% of Nigeria's GDP. And most of the GDP growth since 1999 has been in the non-oil sector (just google around for various documents describing this.)

Would be nice to see a breakdown over time and by state.

by that metric, almost nothing would ever be posted on this forum. Since it has already been discussed before. .

If so, how much younger?

And you can interpret "date" any way you like, from hook-up to serious relationship.

kokoA:
Still watching him sha.

That is all I can say so far.

Not that big a deal.

Religion (or lack thereof) is a private, personal matter.

Doesn't make him a bad leader/politician.

interesting

koboj