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Hmm. You guys are actually right. Is a bit more serious than I thought.

I strongly disagree with you all above. Like I already explained, agriculture is not going to create mass employment. And it certainly isn't something like oil which will generate you 10s of billions of dollars a year.

Ogun State can and should focus on manufacturing. Lagos is too small and densely packed. Ogun should be the foremost destination in the west africa sub-region for any sort of manufacturing. . . that is, if the governor had more vision. How can you have the 5th largest economy in sub-Saharan Africa as your neighbor (Lagos) and not be interested in providing some of the high-value manufactured goods that said economy needs and has to import?

Regarding "ship has sailed" on manufacturing, err, I'd suggest you think a bit more about it.

lmao

Well their intentions are good.

What does "odikwa" mean? 'very' in Igbo or something?

I've heard the phrase "odikwa risky" before and seem to have guessed wrongly at its meaning.

Agric is not going to have any impact on slowing down urbanization. Well, let me clarify, commercial farming won't. Doesn't require that much labor.

Anyway I don't think that urbanization is bad. More importantly, bad or good, it is inevitable.

Regarding "jobs that are not there", if Amosun were a sensible man he'd be looking to create jobs through industrialization. That Nestle factory in Ota area, he should be travelling the world looking for investors who want to build 100s or 1000s more such factories.

That would be more effective for wealth creation and poverty alleviation than a focus on farming.

So LU again (or QR.)

So basically implement Gaussian elimination or the LU decomposition. .

Lol.

I figured that s3x must be the reason everyone goes to Owerri on the weekends, but wasn't completely sure.

Sometimes I feel bummed at how unimaginative some of these leaders are.

Just because something worked in the 50s and 60s (agriculture) doesn't mean you can try the same tactic today and expect superb results.

bleh

Good goal, but too much focus on agric. . .

Ogun has other areas of potential that are more interesting, I think

Nigeria: Ogun To Become An Economic Power House - Amosun

Abiodun Taiwo12 November 2011
Ogun state government has reiterated its commitment to create an enabling environment for trade and commerce to thrive in the state.

Governor Ibikunle Amosun, who was represented by the Deputy Governor, Prince Segun Adesegun, stated this at the Ogun State Day at the ongoing Lagos International Trade Fair.

He said the present administration would continue to act as a catalyst for economic activities and strive to ensure that the state becomes an economic power house in the country. Senator Amosun explained that the state government had put together an economic reform agenda aimed at correcting the structural weaknesses within the system and establishing an enduring framework for economic growth.

He emphasized that the present administration would focus on agriculture and bring back the glory of the state in the sector. "We will lay a solid foundation for a vibrant, research- driven mechanized farming and technologically-induced agro-based industry," he said.

The state governor added that his administration was ready to partner with investors towards achieving its economic goals.

He assured the people of the state that his government would continue to provide an atmosphere that would guarantee their welfare and prosperity.

In his keynote address, the state Commissioner for Commerce and Industry, Otunba Abimbola Ashiru, disclosed that the state government had concluded plans to set up cluster farm settlements, where producers, processors and other stakeholders in the food chain would be localized in different regions of the state to ensure cost-effectiveness, accessibility, visibility and synergy.

He said the administration was developing a relationship among ministries, departments and agencies of government towards evolving a holistic and integrated response that would guarantee sustainable progress and development. In his welcome address, the President of Lagos Chamber of Commerce and Industry, Otunba Femi Deru, said Ogun State was blessed with both human and natural resources and commended the state government for creating an enabling environment for businesses to thrive.

http://allafrica.com/stories/printable/201111130128.html

^-- lmao

What is their reasoning for DQing Bruce and Alaibe?

sheyguy:
With the current climate of fear, and the consequent negative perception of the country in an international arena where image is everything, there are fears that the world’s most populous black nation is sliding back to its days as a pariah.

Hrm.



Sometimes I forget that naija is more than just about Nigerians. Also a symbol. . .

Krucifax:
If you look at it from an observable,calculable stand point it's quite easy. Note i stress logic when making the point. Take your question "how do we know".
Pause for a minute and you can answer it yourself. Ask yourself how do you or anyone know what they know? Observation and application of logic. Anything else is an acceptance of Observation and logic that has been applied by someone else on your behalf regardless of where you sourced the information (Textbooks,Websites,Journals,Seminars,Lectures etc etc) It's still the same thing.

Which brings me to a repetition of the point i alluded to. Because God is unobservable with can make no rational conclusions unless of course you want to apply faith( No logic) then Presto!! Problem solved!

I personally don't see why it is true that everything has a beginning. I don't see why logically it must be true. Maybe some things have existed since the big b[i]a[/i]ng, and maybe some of those things existed even before it. . .

None of us know, is my point. We are all just guessing, reasoning that since most of the things we observe in our lives have a beginning (and an end), that this holds true in general. But we don't know that this is true.

Krucifax:
Mr Poster by definition every process or event has a "Beginning" or "Cause". This immediately invalidates any concept of an "Uncaused Cause". Understandably this illogical concept is normally espoused by people "overly" (read i have a faith system) subscribed to religious ideals, which inevitably brings us to the "God" question.

Why is this true? Why does everything have a beginning? You guys keep saying it, but how do we know?

I think anything related to God is just going to end up being a matter of faith. None of us can actually prove anything about whether he exists or not, whether the bible, koran, etc are the correct interpretation.

We certainly won't be able to prove anything about his origins (e.g., questions like "who created God?"

All just speculation on our parts, I think.

Rgp92:
Everything as a beginning and an ending.

Why is this true? We don't know. Maybe some things have existed forever, right? I don't know.

Why are we assuming anyone created God?

Maybe he has always existed, I dunno. Or maybe he came into being w/o any other "being" making him.

Lol. Yeah I didn't see her point either. . . still would need air-conditioning of some sort

[quote author=aloy@emeka link=topic=802174.msg9545769#msg9545769 date=1321185941]Mud houses are usually not hot.[/quote]If it gets hot outside, won't the mud house get hot too?

I wonder what Nigeria would look like today if Abacha had survived, and been ruling until 2007.

All I can do is shudder. How many lives would have been destroyed and ruined? How much potential would have gone unrealized?

Smh

Let us never compare OBJ to Abacha again, even jokingly. It isn't funny.

The greatest improvement in the life of your typical Nigerian occurred during OBJ's 8 years. Could and should he have done more? Yes. Did he fail on some major issues? Yes.

Nevertheless, he is the best president Nigeria has had so far. And in my opinion, not a failure.

alj harem:
really, then abacha too was not a failure as well.

because abacha made life more comfortable for Nigerians than OBJ

also shagari

This is not true. And you know it. The lot of your typical Nigerian was far better in 2007 than it was in 1998. Granted, not clear how much credit OBJ should get for it.

OBJ was not perfect (far from it), but was not a failure.

Very interesting.

frosbel:
Most of Makoko's inhabitants are from neighboring countries such as Benin, Togo and Ghana. They have traveled to Lagos in search of work and a better life for their families. Inhabitants say that once they arrive, they find that life is harder than they imagined and work is scarce, but it doesn't stop more from arriving daily.

The people living in Makoko are said to be very enterprising; fishing and wood processing are the main forms of industry.

Elizabeth Zanu lives in Makoko with her husband and their five children. She told CNN it's a struggle to support the family. "Our income is not enough," Zanu said. "We need someone to assist us."

Didn't know that.

I don't see any reason to deport them unless they make trouble.

hm

Poetry is something I've never quite "gotten" and have struggled to appreciate. But definitely I can feel what this dude wrote, lol.

aribisala0:
from where does this almajiri spring from
unleashed and unattended
foaming at the mouth
is it now the case that man and cattle
hobnob or graze together.
please check again
did you lose your way
or take the wrong turn
with cloven hoof astray?
this is a human gathering
we are not not your coevals
they say you have learnt speech and
can also count
i applaud your progress
did we not find you
suckling from a goat and
elevate you .
they say you now use cups
practise your speech with yours namas
and count them too
you are in good company
in your bovine fraternity
we are not  your coevals
do you have an ague
tarry a while
the vet is on his way
but when you hear human speech
hold your peace
we are not your coevals

Lmao Man I'm impressed.

Haha.

Lokoja might be bad for a state capital. But there is this restaurant on the main road leading to Abuja that sells delicious chicken. Owned by a Yoruba man. And a stand that sells fried+sliced yam. Very delicious food

Granted, we only stopped by in the city for a small period of time.