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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:01pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
distraction or not good enough!
look at the hypocrite that was arguing against european teams just before the world cup now changing his mouth.

distraction my foot - as if the south american clubs don't get distracted too. fergie's treble winning squad shunned the FA cup to go play in that competition in 1999 & got their arsës handed to them.
It's a distraction and I see no correlation with the world cup. Small teams put in more effort in these rubber cups.

coogar:
because moyes was a morön!
fergie had a special schedule for rio & vidic. he never played them consecutively in games. the backroom staff that shoulda guided moyes with the fitness regime & gym work has been sacked by the fool.....so whose fault was it?

fergie warned him - don't change things too quickly. his first objective was to steady the ship. retain all backroom personnel & let them perform their magic. this season, he can then start to replace them one by one.
How many matches did Rio played in 2012/13 when he was fit? Vidic was not played by SAF because he was just returning from injury.

* Don't change things too quickly could mean dont buy players too quickly. cheesy


coogar:
direction of real madrid? grin
which top class player would sign for moyes? you think it's all about money? players have managers they fully respect.

van gaal is a world class manager. in 95, he won a whole champions league with a bunch of teenagers. he did wonders at barcelona & even bayern.

that's who you want to compare to foolish moyes? is moyes better than fanny amun? a manager that doesn't play to win games? a manager that said he would have taken a draw against hull fc before a game?
It's all about money and availability. Moyes bought Mata.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:53pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
how can you remember when your fingers type faster than you process information.

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You have not said the truth here. I did not type that in the afternoon. And it was not in response to you.

I typed it at 7.14 pm in response to SetrakusRa.



elampiro:
Without Di Maria, Blind, Shaw, Rojo, Herrera, our first three matches under Gaal were more horrible to watch than what Moyes served us last season.

Moyes is just a victim of circumstance. Gaal wouldn't win anything with Ferdi, Evans, Vidic, Evra, Cleverley, Young, Welbeck, Chicharito....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:44pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
how can you remember when your fingers type faster than you process information.




SAF team only needed 2 good midfielders last season. scholes re-retired & giggs was ageing badly. all moyes had to do was go to bilbao & sign herrera & m'vila. yet, he còcked it up.

the fool ran after players who cannot be arsëd with moyes. thiago, fabregas, etc were all flirted with & they turned moyes down cos they don't even believe in moyes' philosophy.

bang....van gaal showed up and quality players came from nowhere. let's not forget united had lost their european place at this time but every player still wanted to play for LVG.

moyes as a manager of a seeded team in europe couldn't sign any top class player. his last option was to go sign fellaini. he spent £28m on a £20m midfielder. i don't even know how anyone can rate moyes.
* Moyes wanted to access the team but he didnt know the players were so aged. Ferdinand legs were more tired than Distin who is older.

* Moyes wanted to move Man United in the same direction as Real Madrid. He didnt want to start signing average players. Otherwise he would have spent 200 million in panic.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:40pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
why should we start counting from europe? argentine league is not better than most european leagues? in the days of intercontinental cup, south american clubs won it more. they always räpe their european counterparts.

moyes has never left europe to manage & yet his win ratio is 44% - moyes is a disgrace to all scottish managers that have existed. he's a failure, born to fail, living to fail & he would die failing. 18 months contract for a manager you deemed good? 18 months? 1.5 years managerial contract? grin cheesy



what's this supposed to mean?
are you hungry or does your brain lack the required amount of oxygen? stick to the points & quit the psycho-babbling.
European teams won't do well in intercontinental cups just as big teams don't do well when they drop to Europa or are in the Carling cup. DISTRACTION.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:36pm On Nov 11, 2014
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:16pm On Nov 11, 2014
SetrakusRa:
Funny you should say that when you posted:

"Moyes is just a victim of circumstance. Gaal wouldn't win anything with Ferdi, Evans, Vidic, Evra, Cleverley, Young, Welbeck, Chicharito....
I can't remember posting this in the afternoon when Coogar and I had a bout.


SetrakusRa:
Funny you should say that when you posted:


Confidence! Moyes' crazy man management and silly media comments have reduced player's confidence to nothing. T[b]he team was broken needed an overhaul[/b]. Even with Di Maria, Blind, Rojo, Herrera etc with Moyes now when the league is even more competitive, y'all will be praying for QPR to drop points so Utd can get off the relegation zone.

I never joined the argument, I posted an opinion which you decided to quote.
Now you agreed SAF team needed an overhaul. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:12pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
see him shooting his own foot!
pellegrini won plenty of titles in south america before his sojourn in europe. moyes hasn't won anything in his life.

there's a big difference!
We start counting from Europe. Else we could count Amodu, some coaches in Japan and South America, Egypt.

He won nothing in Europe for about 9 years.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:02pm On Nov 11, 2014
[quote author=SetrakusRa post=27927280]Manuel Pellegrini

Who was this man before he won the EPL for Man City?

Is Moyes the only coach who had not won trophies upon trophies before getting a big job?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:55pm On Nov 11, 2014
SetrakusRa:
Petty excuse! I see most of you pro-moyes are wishing LvG fails in Utd.. Well, you ain't gonna see that. There's a big difference between Van Gaal's United and Moyes', bar injuries, big name signings, suspensions etc. Moyes is miles away from LvG's level, his CV and youth policy will continue shutting critics.

The fact that the board gave SAF the privilege of appointing his successor, who eventually choose his countryman, shows that he wasn't the right man to lead England's best, also shows that there wasn't a proper review by the club.
No one has ever argued about CVs here. What we argued is that at this same number of matches, Moyes did better. That argument ended last week. The argument on ground now is Moyes work at Everton. He pulled them out of the gutters into a respectable side. With limited budget.

Coogar and I never argued about Moyes vs Gaal today. You and one other guy brought this up without proper understanding of the argument.


SetrakusRa:
Victim of? May I remind you that those few players you listed won the league before Moyes came? Do you know that Van Gaal used few of those players to win the ICC cup?
How come Gaal sacked all the supposed SAF players if they were really good?

SetrakusRa:
Those players you label flops who left Utd are all starters in some of the biggest teams in europe. Moyes had players of such calibre and miserably flopped united to 7th.


Pls, stop the d!ckriding.. Moyes put the F in failure!
So why were they sold by Gaal?

Like Ferdinand, Chicharito, Cleverley, Zaha, Vidic etc Abegi grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:39pm On Nov 11, 2014
With Moyes players, Gaal picked only three points from 2 matches- 3 easy matches. He got us knocked out of the Capital1 cup by Mama Deborah FC in the very first round. He conceded how many goals sef? Moyes used same players to beat Leverkusen 9-2. Crushed Norwich, Stoke Capital1 cup, only lost to DDG's last minute error.

Moyes was just a victim of circumstance. Period! I wont say a manager of the season 3 times is a failure. He turned Goodison Park to a lion's den.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:24pm On Nov 11, 2014
iheanyi40:
d way elampiro dey tak defend sum ppl ehh grin if to say na ma hood e dey 4 aba dey voice dis kind talks e 4 dey collect oh grin
Learn to follow the flow of an argument and respond appropriately.

* A man who won manager of the season in 3 seasons in the EPL is not a failure. If he were a failure, Man United wouldn't sign him. He wouldn't be rated as one of the best ever in the EPL.

* for your information, the argument wasn't even about his work at Man United.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:17pm On Nov 11, 2014
RuuDie:
And after 150m+ spent, I can see how our "fantastic" new saviour LVG is steam-rolling everyone with his tactical genius!

Hindsight is a wonderful bi*atch... let me stick my neck out and say; if LVG had come in directly after SAF, UTD would have been relegated!
I tell you, Gaal is just a lucky man. 2 points in 3 matches with the old team. He even had Herrera sef.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:14pm On Nov 11, 2014
SetrakusRa:
Why would a United fan claim Moyes ain't a failure? Forget the 7th position ishh, his tactics are horrible, pre/post match comments are terrible. He turned the King of England to a mid-table team. The only positive thing I wish for him is to make top of the relegation zone in Spain.

I wish I can make €5M for being shiit in my job.
Without Di Maria, Blind, Shaw, Rojo, Herrera, our first three matches under Gaal were more horrible to watch than what Moyes served us last season.

Moyes is just a victim of circumstance. Gaal wouldn't win anything with Ferdi, Evans, Vidic, Evra, Cleverley, Young, Welbeck, Chicharito....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:56pm On Nov 11, 2014
Louis van Gaal gives reason for naming Wayne Rooney the captain of Manchester United
By Brian McMahon, 8/15/2014

"He accepted the responsibility and I like him very much," said van Gaal of Rooney. "How he trained and also how he performed in the games, how he performed to his fellow players."

Though van Gaal seems to have a lot of confidence in what Rooney can do on the field, he has warned his star to stay out of trouble off of it, according to the Daily Mail .

http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/2014/08/louis-van-gaal-gives-reason-naming-wayne-rooney-captain-manchester-united

.............................



Wayne Rooney told to 'let it fly' as captain of Manchester United by Louis van Gaal... but striker must keep his nose clean off pitch
Van Gaal praises Rooney for his 'attitude' after appointing him captain
Tells him to 'let it fly' as skipper, but also to keep his nose clean off pitch
Van Gaal also believes his squad can cope with the absence of Luke Shaw

The United boss said: 'I've made him captain because of his attitude on the pitch and the training ground.
'Not so much outside the pitch, but I've told him that is important to me and he's accepted his responsibility.
'I've liked very much how he has trained and performed so far and how he has behaved to his fellow players.
'After Tuesday's game I joked with him don't try too hard - let it fly.
'In USA he scored a lot of goals and made an amount of assists. That is the Wayne I want to see.'
Speaking ahead of Manchester United's first game of the season against Swansea on Saturday, Van Gaal also confirmed that Robin van Persie had 'no chance' of playing, and that the squad could cope without the recently injured Luke Shaw, who has been ruled out for four weeks.
'We played in the USA with Reece James & Ashley Young in that position. I'm not worried,' he said



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2725958/Wayne-Rooney-s-attitude-reason-I-Manchester-United-captain-says-Louis-van-Gaal.html#ixzz3IlgdbpMd



Logging our finally. Thanks.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:49pm On Nov 11, 2014
I get to log out now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:48pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
he sold rooney on the last day of the transfer window - that's his stupïdity. check out his expenses the next transfer window.

he got lescott, andy johnson, arteta, van der meyde, phil neville, etc. he spent £28m that season & that has been their highest ever spent till he left everton.




moyes is a lunatic!
he won't win jack - he's a monumental failure. i won't even shake his hands if we ever meet before he transmits his failure infection. why did they give him an 18-month contract at sociedad? grin cheesy grin

because sociedad knows he's more likely to fail.
Rooney alone was more important to a team than those players you mentioned above as at the time. I see it as losing a 30 million pounds player than the other way. Di you also expect Moyes to win the league from Chelsea, Arsenal and Man United at the time?

Without selling Rooney, they should have spent. One would expect the spending to be up to 43 million to make any sense.

That spending was not enough to win them the title. Blackburn was spending heavily for three years (more than Man United) before they could win the title from Man united.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:42pm On Nov 11, 2014
* Rooney won the player of the tournament in preseason and Gaal immediately gave a hint that he could be captain.

* Gaal reason when he appointed Rooney: "For me it's always very important the choice of captain. Wayne has shown a great attitude towards everything he does. I have been very impressed by his professionalism and his attitude to training and to my philosophy," said Van Gaal.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:28pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
he spent loads of money - £30m for rooney in 04/05 is like £100m in today's value in the transfer market. shevchenko that came 2 years later broke the english transfer record with £30m. so what's his excuse?

18 points in 135 against top 4 sides? shocked shocked
...and spent 7 million that season.

coogar:
then redknapp is also a failure - he demoted portsmouth. grin
Lets wait for Moyes to get to his age. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:20pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
cleverley was in the academy.
academy players don't train with senior squad members in case you haven't got the memo. he wore the armband cos he's the most senior apart from rooney & fletcher in the preseason.

evans & rafael didn't make the preseason cos of injuries and the other players you mentioned joined united after cleverley became a senior squad member in 2009.
* You have defeated yourself. Cleverley worn the arm band before Rooney. grin So where is your order of seniority?

* Welbeck entered the senior team before Cleverley.


He joined the first-team squad partway through the 2007–08 season,[11] and made his competitive debut for the Manchester United first team on 23 September 2008, starting up front in a 3-1 home win against Middlesbrough in the League Cup Third Round.[12] Welbeck's Premier League debut was made on 15 November 2008, coming on as a 63rd-minute substitute for Park Ji-Sung against Stoke City. He marked his debut with a curling 30-yard strike into the top right corner for United's fourth goal in a 5–0 win.[13]

On 23 September 2009, Welbeck scored his first goal of the 2009–10 season and first in the League Cup; he hit the only goal of the game in the Third Round against Wolverhampton Wanderers.[14] Welbeck made his Champions League debut in a 1–0 defeat to Beşiktaş in November 2009.[15] The following month he signed a new contract, keeping him at Manchester United until 2013.[16]


* I REITERATE IT WAS BASED ON PERFORMANCE. Not any seniority. You can't deceive us on this. cheesy cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:16pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
this is the dumbest question ever.....
why is moyes being compared to manager's at bradford, coventry, etc? that's what people do - why ain't you comparing moyes to redknapp, di matteo, mancini, etc.
That was the level he met Everton. He should be commended for what he did for them with limited budget.

coogar:
martinez won FA cup with wigan - winners do something in a club no matter the size of the club. SAF won league titles @ aberdeen, martinez won FA cup for wigan. redknapp won FA cup for portsmouth. those are the winners - moyes was at everton for 11 years and he won nothing.

that's the damning statistic that proves david moyes is the colour of failure.
Martinez is a failure. He demoted Wigan. Forget the fluke FA cup.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:09pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
how's cleverley rooney's senior?
why do you always lie like this? cleverley that only graduated as a senior squad member in 2009 was rooney's senior? shocked shocked

darren fletcher is the only senior of rooney & this is why he's the assistant captain. they are the oldest senior team members & it's got nothing to do with performance.
Cleverley has been in Man United since 2001. So he could pass as an old member. Older in the club than Rooney. The reason he wore the arm band over such players like Evans, Young, Welbeck, Mata, Chicharito, Rafael, Jones, Smaling.

Rooney captaincy had nothing to do with performance? Even when Gaal pinned it on performance? lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:04pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
was it an away game?



he had 11 years to do that. if he couldn't build something out of everton in 11 years then he's a mollusc. he was also lucky to have rooney in the academy. selling rooney for £30m in 2004 helped him with liquid cash to buy moderately decent players to have the thrust to compete in 04/05 season.



he had 11 years to build a squad. 11 years = 3 rounds of squad rebuilding. most transitions last for 3-4 seasons. so what's the biggie in what moyes has done when he couldn't even win any domestic cup in 12 years at everton?



where's moyes' fluke win? martinez managed a fluke win in the little time he was the manager of wigan & uncle moyes couldn't manage the same feat in 12 seasons at everton? something portsmouth & other smaller clubs managed to win? grin



moyes is a failure......
none of us here would have plunged defending champions into 7th position. hell, not even our haters(fans of arsenal, chelsea, city) etc would have managed it if they tried. moyes took a strong united squad that nearly defeated madrid, a squad that won the league by 11 points into 7th position.

the colour of failure is david moyes!




moyes is a failure.
he was not any victim of circumstance - he failed and got every decision wrong. he was warned, advised but he wanted to do it his own way. did SAF not warn him to keep the backroom staff? why did he bring his useless assistants from everton to a big club like united?

united went from being a perennial european team to the one that cannot even feature in any eüropean game. we will lose our seeding status next season, all thanks to this odious idïotic manager that ebola should have claimed last season. i dunno about y'all - but please....let's forget the nightmare called moyes.
I don't have time for these long stories. All I see is that he had 11 years blablabla. The managers who were struggling relegation with Everton then, where are they now?

Moyes lifted Everton, Martinez demoted Wigan. I won't be surprised to see Everton fighting relegation once under Martinez Moyes players start getting old.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:45pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
rooney was the only candidate in the preseason. RVP never made the preseason & it would be wrong to hand it over to him without having seen his performance for united.

who else is rooney's senior? only fletcher....and fletcher can't be fit to save a chimp's life in a game reserve. united's lack of senior players handed rooney the captaincy, not van gaal. had evra, rio or vidic stayed on then rooney wouldn't have ever been made the captain.

i repeat, moyes is a monumental failure!
Cleverley also worn the arm band and he is Rooney's senior as far as Man United is concerned. You even celebrated it here that Cleverley was given the arm band while Rooney was overlooked. Rooney simply out performed the rest in the build up to the season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:41pm On Nov 11, 2014
SIRcumalot:
Moyes finished top 4( 2004-2005)he is a good manager and we should wish him well at Sociedad and move on.
Exactly, we should always wish people well.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:41pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
this is another reason we have to question your football pedigree. moyes never managed to beat any of the traditional top 4 teams in his 11 seasons at everton away from home. that's a damning statistic that just tells you he is a failure.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1170807_10151917037645832_1537436219_n.png

18 points from 135 points available against the top 4 teams is just a massive disgrace.
* I thought Moyes defeated Arsenal last season?

* This chart speaks nothing. The question is what position did Moyes met Everton and where did he raised them to?

* As at when Moyes took over, Everton were in the same relegation with Bradford City and Coventry. I will like you to show the points won by these two teams against Man United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.

coogar:
martinez won FA cup with wigan - a lowly rated team. moyes won nothing at everton for 11 seasons. that alone tells me moyes is a microcosm of what martinez is.
Fluke win and he got relegated too. Wigan is yet to recover from that. This is not even supposed to come into the discussion because we are talking aboug the two managers achievement in Everton.

Talking about other clubs: Moyes took over as Preston North End manager in January 1998, replacing Gary Peters as the club struggled in Division Two and were in danger of relegation. He had spent much of his playing career preparing for management, taking coaching badges at just 22 years of age and compiling notes on managers he had played under, their techniques and tactics.[13] Preston avoided relegation at the end of the 1997–98 season and reached the Division Two play-offs the following season, where they were beaten by Gillingham at the semi-final stage.

The following season, Moyes guided Preston to the Division Two title and a promotion to Division One. An even greater achievement perhaps was to steer Preston into the Division One play-offs the season after that, with largely the same squad. Preston lost 3–0 to Bolton Wanderers in the 2001 Football League First Division play-off Final, missing out on promotion to the Premier League. One month later, Moyes signed a new five-year contract with the club.[14] Towards the end of the following season, he left for Everton, to take over from fellow Scotsman Walter Smith in March 2002. Moyes took charge of Preston for 243 matches, of which his team won 113, lost 63 and drew 67.




coogar:
compare the type of football martinez has imposed @ everton to the medieval football moyes played while there for 11 seasons. even everton players said moyes' methods were poor in comparison to what martinez is doing.
Nothing has changed. Those players were carried away last season, but the reality is dawn on them this season. Moyes was just a victim of circumstance in Man United. I don't blame those players, when an elephant falls, even ants and rodents would step on it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:37pm On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
they play proper football & he qualified them for europe. his everton side got their first victory at OT last season & they did a double over united.....something moyes couldn't manage in his entire career at the merseyside.

moyes' picture should be put next to the word failure in the dictionary.
How is beating Man United home and away something to celebrate, when Moyes' 10-man had already beaten Man City, and they had always beaten mighty City where others big teams have struggled. Moyes beat United in Carling cup, and he ruined our title in 2011/12.

I don't see what Martinez has achieved in Everton. Moyes used to go to Europe and had even finished fourth place (UCL place) many years ago.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:55am On Nov 11, 2014
The Manchester United striker has held the Netherlands captaincy since 2013 but a poor run of form for club and country has led some to suggest he should relinquish the armband

Robin van Persie has hit back at criticism of his Netherlands captaincy and insists that he still merits the armband given to him by Louis van Gaal – even though the veteran coach overlooked him as Manchester United skipper.

Van Persie has held the Oranje armband since 2013, and led his country to a third-placed finish in the 2014 World Cup, though Wayne Rooney was chosen ahead of him as United captain.

However, a poor start to the country’s Euro 2016 qualifying campaign – they sit six points behind joint Group A leaders Iceland and Czech Republic – coupled with a disappointing run of form at Old Trafford has led some to suggest he should give up the armband, though Van Persie insists he pays no attention to his critics.

"I have the feeling I'm in the middle of the group. The critics don't hurt me, because I get appreciated by people who can really judge,” he said.

“I receive the appreciation and feel it every day. The Netherlands is a country with a lot of opinions. Those get harder and harder, increasingly ruthless. That's a trend. I have to deal with it.

“Everyone can have his opinion. That's the world we live in. I was chosen by Louis van Gaal on the basis of who I am and what I did and am doing. I don't see why I should change."

Van Persie does, however, admit that he feels “responsible” for the Netherlands’ dismal start to their qualifying campaign, which has seen them lose 2-0 to Iceland and 2-1 to Czech Republic, though he insists so-called crisis talks with manager Guus Hiddink were simply "honest" conversations.

"As a player I feel responsible, that has nothing to do with me being captain. We want to win and that didn't happen,” he said.

"We all feel responsible. We're winners and used to win. It's painful we're in this situation. We must give a good example, first Wednesday against Mexico and Sunday against Latvia."

When asked about Hiddink, he added: "Those were other talks than we're used to having. Usually we talk about brillliant goals and fun moments.

"But now nothing good has happened at Oranje and you have different conversations. Not negative, but we must be honest and we are honest."
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/4961/international-football/2014/11/11/6030641/van-persie-hits-back-at-critics-van-gaal-chose-me-for-what-i?CMPID=FBUK_141111_VanPersie
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:54am On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
and roberto martinez proved moyes' accolades @ everton were grossly overrated. he's a virus of a manager. 12 seasons at everton & he won nothing.
What has Martinez achieved with Everton?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:03am On Nov 11, 2014
coogar:
sociedad will relegate - it's baffling any club would hire this virus of a manager.
How is he a virus when he pushed Everton far away from relegation zone into European zone?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:51am On Nov 11, 2014
Real Sociedad appoints Moyes.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:37pm On Nov 10, 2014
MrTA:
They are all tough matches.
Those days we used to have these kind of tough fixtures on paper but on the field SAF will win 6 or 7 out of them. Mostly in the run in.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:33pm On Nov 10, 2014
Today, following our important win on Saturday, it seems a bit easier to be here writing these lines about what has happened during the week.

The feeling of scoring a goal in Old Trafford is nearly impossible to describe, but I can tell you that is very special… It’s like an explosion of joy shared with everybody in the stadium, the players and the crowd. Even more if your goal secures the three points!

Winning this weekend was very important. We came from a few weeks without victories and these three points take us near the teams at the top, and encourage us to keep working hard and improving our game. Obviously, we know there is still a lot to do in order to get where we want to, but it’s easier when you win.

We are already thinking about the next game, and it’s a big one, in London against Arsenal. I hope we win again and show consistency in our results.

I take this opportunity to send a big hug to all of you and, as always, to thank you for your tireless support at all times. I always try to have good things to share with you and I hope to keep talking about them on this blog.

See you next Monday. Hugs!

Juan

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