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SIRcumalot:
I'll complain.
Messi or Ronaldo should win it. I think we're all getting Numb to just how great those two are.
Neuer is a great goal keeper(best in the world) but his still replaceable.

barackohandso:
I was actually thinking Lahm or Muller giving that they're both consistent and are world cup winners but I still don't see any other person winning it apart from Messi/CR7. We're still in their era and they'll still be around for a while. Neuer deserves the top 3 though

joeace2020:
So much for Southampton being challengers for champions league places... Mscheeeeww... Small boys occupying spot meant for big boys... Beaten at home by 3goals like a true mid table team they are

Odunharry:
Our game next week mnday against southampton,we need physical players on the pitch


Southampton playing well against City

mcfarlin:
Opinion;1[b]do we need luis nani back in january[/b].?

2.What is the best midfield combination if all our midfielders are fit!

TAGS:elampiro,coogar,sailorxy,pietrorico,odunharry...et al

Danhumprey:
He is justifying the reason why he is our best passer!

Odunharry:
my observation....cattermole really played well...their back 4 and Goalie did well to

Wickham ws just raping Ivanovic up there...

Good play Blackcats....I said it b4,it seems we are going to a party tonite at cfc fan thread

afrodoc:
Anderson must be more catastrophically hopeless than i thought not to get even 5mins game time in the league......fat tummy, fat yansh, fat head, possibly more fat than needed in d brain cells.

SIRcumalot:
I didn't ask for a refresher course on Ivanovic infact I want to avoid arguing over non united players so we'll just ask Chelsea fans and whatever they decide I accept.

I used the same logic for why Luis is on the bench.

StarBoard:
City should lose.
No question about that.

SIRcumalot:
What is Ivanovic's Natural Position ?

I don't want to start a long discussion over Iva.

He is a right back and then a centre back. He played as a right back for Chelsea on his arrival (first few seasons I believe) but later he was drafted to the middle when Terry was not in form and to cover for the vacuum left by Alex. He scored some vital goals for Chelsea in UCL in his first year of activity in the UCL. He helped Chelsea to EPL title in 2010 and FA cup same year. He played a prominent role in helping Chelsea to beat Barca enroute to winning UCL 2012. The following year, 2013 he scored the winner in the Europa final in a well perfectly directed header.

He is great!

Do you know Azpilicueta was right back. In your logic, Ivanovic is the better full back for retaining the position. You see

Odunharry:
A.Valencia making his 200th
appearance for Manchester
United today. Congratulation.

Elampiro

SIRcumalot:
Ivanovic was shifted right to accommodate better CB's he has done very well but not like Caesar,who hardly makes mistakes.

coded01:
You dey sure na you be the Elampiro wey we know...

royale442:
why e no go ban am?

SIRcumalot:
The fact That Aziplicueta a RB as kept a very fine LB like Luis out of Chelsea's starting Team says it all.

coogar:
accept defeat?
you have brought shame to our house again, this is the first time in many months a chelsea fan(ibime) would question the intelligence of a united fan.

ivanovic is meat for any good winger. no one has been able to beat azpilicueta yet, there are many chelsea videos on the internet. go & bring out any goal conceded by chelsea that is a direct fault of azpili. you wouldn't find any.



shut up!
how did shaw push cole out? how many games did shaw play at the world cup? shaw ko, seashore ni.



of course, mata is 33.



he doesn't get beaten!
i said it, ibime has also confirmed it and neville + carragher also said so. what do you know?



you are a soccer illiterate!
azpili doesn't make more tackles - he wins more tackles & his brilliance is further demonstrates by the number of interceptions he makes. interception > tackling. if azpili makes more interceptions + blocks + winning tackles than ivanovic then hang your head in shame!




you are a pathological liar!
you didn't offer a single reply after i posted the number of key passes each winger & striker made that season. you just went to bed straightaway cos you knew you had been buried in 6-feet pit.

why are you lying to us when the facts aren't far-fetched?



arsënal play 4-2-3-1.
how can sanchez be a number 9? are you a goat?



azpilicueta is the energy bunny freak of nature that cannot be beaten. usually, fullbacks who have high interception stats rarely win tackles.....but azpili has won more tackles with more interceptions than ivanovic.

a forward has more goals & assists than the other and you are still arguing like a silverback ape that the one with less goals & assists is the better one. which other stats is more important than tackling, blocks & interceptions to a defender?




this is when one would say you are clueless. since when did goalscoring become the important factor in defenders? after lying to us in the last 2 pages that there's no single stat where azpili is better than ivanovic, you are starting to dance like a harlem-shaker again.



the chart won't tell a story to a morön - but it does tell a beautiful story to a genius. the stats have told us azpili wins more tackles, makes more interceptions, get more blocks & he's not received a single yellow card so far this season - unlike ivanovic who's had 4 yellow cards already.

this turf is for the football intelligentsias - elampawa, you are not qualified to even have a bite of the exegesis involved here. this is not facebook where you can make blanket statements. in all the stats that matter to defenders, azpili subdued ivanovic brick by brick. he's the best defender this season by a country mile -

neville/carragher could have chosen baines or ivanovic but the issue isn't about goalscoring - they were looking for a defender who attacks at will & still manage to defend excellently. the most balanced, most brilliant & the most perfect defender in the league is azpili!

QED!!!!

coogar:
he's the best defender in the league!
he attacks tenaciously, he defends even more brilliantly. what's more? he doesn't make mistakes or get caught upfield as a result of walkabouting like evra, ashley, gibbs, clichy, etc. he's 100% perfect!

that's the player chelsea fans should be hyping, not hazard.

Dhellake:
Whats left in the year is not up to 6 weeks

coogar:
you don't know how to argue!


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coogar:
how's his age affecting anything? gerrard is older and he's still playing for his club. terry is about 33 and he's still chelsea's best centre back.

coogar:
you have a problem with comprehension.
i said rafael & azpili are the only defenders in the league that don't back up when attacked. they go head on with the player in possession to buy time for the retreating defenders. you can never see rafael move backwards with his arsë when he's bombarded - nor azpili.....they deal with the threat wherever they find it!

coogar:
it's the same......
opponents would attack the weakest point in the defence. this is why you always get drowned in any argument. there was a particular arsenal game that SAF pitched nani against clichy & it was the only route we exploited all game.

in that wise, you would say because clichy lost or won more tackles than his opposing full back, then clichy is better? ivanovic isn't a full-back, he gets räped constantly. the only reason he's in the chelsea team is the height advantage & aerial prowess. aerial duels isn't the same as 50-50 ground tackling that rafael/azpili are kings!

coogar:
yea, i concluded it by proving to you rooney created nothing from the imaginary hole you put him: all our wingers created more key passes than rooney that season.......it then goes to show rooney wasn't in the hole - he's in the front 2 like falcao & RVP were in the early stage of the season.

i asked you which of falcao/RVP was in the hole and you were dancing like dhamendra in gazaab(tongueless & clueless). i asked you again who was in the hole when yorke/cole were striking for us & you couldn't provide any credible rebuttal. how can you be clued up when you don't even know rooney's position in 2011/12?

coogar:
exactly - that is the sign of a good defender. it's the ones who rarely makes tackles or buzz about the pitch like maniacs that are the effective ones. a good defender shouldn't be making more than 1/2 tackles per game. his positioning is enough to ward off the opponents - azpili's brilliance is further rubber-stamped when stats show he's not gotten a single yellow card this season.

coogar:
he's always on point with his tackling unlike branislav! if this was a boxing bout, ivanovic wouldn't even be fit to wear the same badge as azpili. if you can be effective as azpili without making yourself a card magnet then you are 100% perfect! there's a reason the pundits are raving about azpili & it's because what they see back up the statistics.

azpili bodybagging ivanovic since 1876

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Ibime:
Who's thís Talsima guy chatting crap all over the place?

Every Chelsea fan knows that sharp wingers can get at lvanovic e.g. Diego Someone specifically uses Turan Arda to target Ivanovic like in the Supercup.

On the other hand, wingers no dey fit beat Azpi,