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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:45pm On Nov 06, 2014
coded01:
Really? Fatigue is your excuse? undecided So teams in other leagues are busy playing PlayStation or what? angry grin

Honestly, i don't expect you to change over this now, so it still the same elampiro that believes he must argue always... tongue grin
Other league are shytes.

coded01:
Haba!!! angry


I am not surprised that you are bias but would be if you were honest... wink
Why didn't the ref send off CSK player for an obvious second bookable offence? It was 11 vs 10 and the player kept pulling Aguero shirt all the way until he pulled him down from entering the 18 box. The ref went to give another player a yellow card. Ridiculous!

Aguero won a last minute penalty. The first time he dived, but the second was a clear penalty. He was pushed off the ball in the very last move of the game.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:40pm On Nov 06, 2014
raumdeuter:
And who have City and Chelsea been playing against?

Bayern have lost more points in their league than in the CL

Dortmund have lost more points in the league than in the CL
Bayern knows they can afford to relax because the whole world knows how the league will end. The news is not Bayern winning the league but when they lost it. So they can afford to conserve energy for the UCL.

Dortmund is also not putting commensurate effort to the league. So they have extra power to play the UCL.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:28pm On Nov 06, 2014
raumdeuter:
Bayern played Dortmund last Saturday in their biggest game of the season yet both teams are not complaining of fatique, they won

Its City that played against 10 men for over 1hr that is fatigued? What a ridiculous excuse

Barcelona lost last weekend to Celta and gave their all till the last minute they didnt complain of fatigue, Its Arsenal who had a stroll vs Burnley or Chelsea who played one of the worst EPL teams that is fatgued.

WHat a ridiculous excuse.

Pellegrini is new in EPL? yet he won it at first attempt

Roger Schmidt, Luis Enrique, Carlo Ancelotti, Pep Guardiola, Rudi Garcia have they spent more time at their jobs than Pellegrini?
Bayern has been playing against ants and cockroaches before they met Dortmund.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:14pm On Nov 06, 2014
raumdeuter:
Paulinho thats already commanding is now a benchwarmer at Spurs
You must be new to football.

Kagawa was already commanding but got relegated to bench role in Man United.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
coded01:
Are you talking about experienced Man City players or an experienced coach as Manuel Pellegrini? undecided --- More than 85% of them played @ this level in their previous clubs while Pellegrini had experiences with Malaga, Real Madrid & Villarreal... angry
Pellergrini is new in EPL. Macini would have by now known how much the league is tough, pacing and physical. You can afford to play every day in Burndisleaguedown and Laliga and still post a good UCL outing. But not EPL. If you saw the game you would know City were battle fatigued from the Manchester derby. They were secodn to 50-50 balls.

coded01:
Please, for once let's be honest here! tongue It won't harm you to be! lipsrsealed


EPL Teams are disappointing & it also balls down to the simple pattern of football played in the "So-called Best League"... tongue grin


Best in ******* grin grin grin
EPL teams get robbed every time. City were robbed last night. It was so obvious. Despite their poor play, they actually lost to the referee.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:45pm On Nov 06, 2014
Rooney backs Ronaldo for Ballon d'Or

Manchester United captain Wayne Rooney believes Cristiano Ronaldo is rightly the favourite to win the Ballon d'Or award because he has usurped Lionel Messi as the best player in the world.

The Reds skipper has seen his former team-mate play a key role as Real Madrid won the Champions League and he was instrumental in ensuring Portugal qualified for the World Cup finals with a virtuoso display in the play-off against Sweden.

Ronaldo maintained his superb run of form by helping the European champions defeat Liverpool 1-0 at the Bernabeu on Tuesday after scoring in the first match at Anfield.

When asked by MUTV if he felt Ronaldo would retain the trophy, Rooney replied: "I think so. He’s had an incredible two or three years and I think he has certainly overtaken Lionel Messi now as the best player in the world. I’m sure it’ll be difficult to give it to anyone else."

MUFC website.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:15pm On Nov 06, 2014
raumdeuter:
Throwback Thirsday series

elampiro

How is your pawafool midfielder named Paulinho doing
Tottenham can be crazy. At this time last season, Adebayo's career was over.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:49am On Nov 06, 2014
raumdeuter:
See the useless EPL defenders

http://gfycat.com/ForkedCookedCat

http://www.gfycat.com/HeartyDigitalGroundhog
Inexperience worrying Man City in Europe. They grossly underrate small teams and play nervously against big teams.

They are a good side but they don't know in Europe you have to put in extra work. They know nothing about resting players or team rotation ahead of crucial games. Common Capital 1 cup they played full strength team. In 2010, Ferguson even without Rooney for the match had to rest Nani and Carrick against Chelsea with Bayern Munich in sight.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:56pm On Nov 05, 2014
Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool will go through.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:36pm On Nov 05, 2014
Nani shines again.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:34pm On Nov 05, 2014
igbsam:
Man City sha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dayo is coming. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:31pm On Nov 05, 2014
All our argument summarized:

Team Focus: Problems Less Widespread For Van Gaal's Underperforming United
by Miguel Delaney at Wednesday, Nov 5 2014 11:25

It’s just as well that Louis van Gaal has near total tunnel vision about his management because, depending on which of the many perspectives you look at Manchester United’s season from so far, it would be difficult not to greatly doubt any one opinion.

Take the aftermath of the 1-0 defeat to the Manchester City game, and the confusion over where exactly United are at - beyond 10th in the table. One view stood out: that was from the basic stats that said David Moyes was doing a better job after 10 games than Van Gaal.

The Scot had 17 points, the Dutchman just 13, while also scoring fewer and conceding more. Even the supposed simplicity of that, however, actually just begins to illustrate how complicated any concrete conclusions are right now. For a start, there’s the fact that Van Gaal’s stats are still affected by that uncertain early start, when a United still yet to make big signings took just two points from their first three games. So, it’s not quite like they’ve persisted so poorly.

From that, there are also the performances in front of our eyes, given that United just look to have more thrust and purpose than at any point under Moyes. They might also have claimed a 1-1 draw at City, in stark contrast to last season’s dismal 4-1, had Wayne Rooney been a little more alert for his late chance.

Team Focus: Problems Less Widespread For Van Gaal's Underperforming United

At the same time, there was also the importance of Michael Oliver’s view, given that the referee might well have awarded City two penalty decisions. That could have seen a repeat of last year’s result, and things would look even worse. Instead, it can just be seen how circular the debates are.

That perhaps sums up the most pertinent point: given the money he has spent, it would have been reasonable to expect Van Gaal to perform a little better; to show a greater departure from last season. At the same time, it’s only 10 games, which allows an awful lot of chance and fluke. So, what do the actual stats from the performances say?

The first and most surprising element is that the basic stats aren’t all that different. In fact, they’re strikingly similar. Van Gaal’s side have an identical number of shots (138), and try almost the same number of dribbles per game (10 against 10.2). Even the great cross against Moyes’ name - the actual number of crosses - remains so close, with Van Gaal’s outfit only producing 1.1 fewer per game.

If Van Gaal does have a distinctively defined plan of his own, it isn’t all that evident yet. The basic stats look very similar to Moyes. Of course, those stats are described as “basic” for a reason. Van Gaal has himself admitted - through the very evocative metaphor of going to the airport for the first time - that it’s about gradually changing things, and building blocks, to the point that growth in play feels organic. In that regard, there have been some nuanced changes.

For one thing, United are less predictable in terms of approach. Last season, as much as 41.9% of their attacks went down the right, with just 32.9 down the left. Teams learned to block United out. This season, it’s more balanced, with 36% down the left and 38% down the right. That has been reflected with more interchanges in the centre of the pitch. As well as playing a touch more through the centre (27% compared to 25.2%), they try marginally more through balls.

Van Gaal’s side also play more passes per game - 573 compared to 552 - but that has still led to greater pass success, at 85.5% against 84.4%. That has resulted in perhaps the most conspicuous difference between the Moyes and Van Gaal teams, other than the actual points on the table.

United now allow the opposition fewer shots, at 10 compared to 12.8 last season. That may seem like little now, but it generally leads to big changes over time, and points to the one big issue with Van Gaal’s side so far.

Individual errors are letting them down at the back, and leading to the concession of goals that the general performance might not otherwise allow. Of course, we know this. United should have signed more defensive players. Van Gaal is known to have wanted a commanding centre-back and a defensive midfielder. From there, things can better.

In other words, he has one clear problem to solve; one area that needs to be finished. With Moyes, it was hard to know where to begin. He had so many problems, which is why things just got worse.

There might not be significant evidence of Van Gaal’s grand plan yet, but there is only one grand problem. That marks the starkest difference. There is at least clarity about what’s wrong. Under Moyes, there was doubt about virtually everything.

http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/rhcmq-k_r0u6v_gzyn9r1g/Show/Team-Focus-Problems-Less-Widespread-in-Van-Gaals-Underperforming-United-Side

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:32pm On Nov 05, 2014
coogar:
you are not wrong...
van gaal's 4-1-4-1 is giving blind too much job to do in that middle. i hope carrick is back to form to partner blind in the next game. i have been very impressed with daley blind.....he's a quality player.
Gaal has so much to decide. Playing Carrick leaves out some other good players. Carrick will make Herrera and Fellaini out of the team completely.

Or what do you think?
Christianity Etc › Re: Six North Carolina Judges Resign Over Refusal To Conduct Same-sex Weddings. by elampiro(op): 3:23pm On Nov 05, 2014
eyeview:
Yes,I read it.
But the power in changing or repealing a law is in the population of those that can push for it. If everybody resign,how will whoever that rises up gather support from the bench?
Judges are not law makers na. These people are more like meant to implement the law. What they are saying is that they can not implement laws that are against the laws of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Six North Carolina Judges Resign Over Refusal To Conduct Same-sex Weddings. by elampiro(op): 1:55pm On Nov 05, 2014
eyeview:
They shouldn't have resigned. If everybody keep resigning,how will the war on ant-gay marriages be won? Instead,let everybody who calls the name of the Lord use their office to resist this evil that has plagued the world.
Did you read it?

They resigned in order not to 'conduct' gay marriage for gay people against bible laws.
Christianity Etc › Six North Carolina Judges Resign Over Refusal To Conduct Same-sex Weddings. by elampiro(op): 10:57am On Nov 05, 2014
Four More North Carolina Judges Resign Over Refusal To Conduct Same-Sex Weddings

October 30, 2014
Since gay marriage was legalized in North Carolina on Oct. 10, at least six North Carolina judges have resigned from their benches because they do not want to go against their Christian faith and conduct wedding ceremonies for same-sex couples.



While it was reported last week that Rockingham County magistrate John Kallam Jr. and Swain County magistrate Gilbert Breedlove resigned from their positions because of the legalization of gay marriage, media reports have surfaced indicating that at least four other magistrates have done the same.

All six magistrates, Kallam, Breedlove, Bill Stevenson (Gaston County), Tommy Holland (Graham County), Gayle Myrick (Union County) and Jeff Powell (Jackson County) say they are waiting on God to give them direction in starting the next phases of their lives.

Stevenson is the latest judge to have publicized that he has stepped down from his position citing religious conflicts with the newly passed North Carolina marriage law.

Although reports surfaced only just this week that Stevenson had resigned, he issued his resignation on Oct. 16, just six days after same-sex marriage was legalized in the state.

"It was something I had to do out of conscience," Stevenson told NBC's Charlotte affiliate. "I felt like to perform same-sex unions would be in violation of the Lord's commands, so I couldn't do that."

Although Stevenson has only been a magistrate for over a year and a half, he is not concerned that he will be losing his main source of income as North Carolina Magistrates get paid more than $50,000 a year, according to the Winston-Salem Journal.

"I hate to wax it so biblical but it says 'what good is it for a man to gain the whole world but lose his own soul,'" Stevenson said. "So, that's the stakes I put on this."
http://m.christianpost.com/news/four-more-north-carolina-judges-resign-over-refusal-to-conduct-same-sex-weddings--128890/
Christianity Etc › “i’m A Divorced And Remarried Mother. Please, Don’t Change Church Practice.” by elampiro(op): 8:28am On Nov 05, 2014
My Plea


“I’m a Divorced and Remarried Mother. Please, Don’t Change Church Practice.” by Luma Simms


The day my soul became Catholic was the day I found out that as a divorced and remarried woman I could not receive Communion. Tears of sorrow and joy flowed. Sorrow because I had by then grasped the truth of transubstantiation, only to find I couldn’t consume, and joy because at last we found the ground of real authority—his Church, the one he founded, the one tasked to keep all he taught her Apostles.

I came to Catholicism from Calvinism. That’s a tough row to hoe if there ever was one. It was that prescient and beautiful encyclical Humanae Vitae which softened my heart to the Catholic Church. After that, I couldn’t get enough. I wanted to hear what the Church believed in her own words. And so I kept reading—Theology of the Body, Familiaris Consortio, Mulieris Dignitatem, and Church documents significant to those of us coming from the Reformed tradition. 

Because I had been divorced, and because another family member recently left his marriage after forty-three years, our children had many doubts and questions about marriage. One day around the dinner table one of the kids voiced their anxiety, stating in our presence that “you never know” if both mom and dad will be there for you as you grow up.

This clued us in to how deeply they had been affected by our choices and the culture that made them possible. As Christian parents we were keen to bring up our children in a Church unwavering on marriage. The Catholic Church offered a rich and beautiful doctrine of marriage in all its fullness, especially as a picture of Christ’s marriage to his bride, the Church. This vision was slowly leading us to consider the Church’s other claims.

But there’s more to coming to the Catholic faith than theological reading. As any convert can attest, there are many ups-and-downs during the journey: Struggling with doctrine followed by insights from magisterial passages coupled with Scripture, feeling still and alone followed by being overwhelmed by the presence of the saints before us, crying out to God for His presence and having Him answer in the Blessed Sacrament. Many times I woke up in the middle of the night thinking: How can I be considering Catholicism? But then in the morning at daily mass praying the liturgy, I experience the profound presence of God, even though I do not take the Eucharist.

Since I cannot now receive the Eucharist, it is through spiritual communion that I am kept spiritually fed by the Lord. This act of willing reception is not, as some may think, second-class communion. Far from it. To believe so is to diminish one of the ways Christ feeds his people, as Hans Urs von Balthasar warns in his book, Prayer:

For spiritual communion is by no means merely an act of longing for the reception of the Lord under the sacramental signs; much deeper, and more properly, it is the act of prayer of a living and understanding faith, by which it enters into living communication and communion with Christ, the eternal and living Truth.

Balthasar wants to impress upon the reader the objective reality of spiritual communion. It is not the absence of something but the presence of him. I don’t get to pine or indulge in self-pity during the distribution of the Eucharist. And God forbid I should become angry with my priest or the Church for not giving me Communion. As Archbishop Charles J. Chaput put it during the 2014 Erasmus lecture, “none of us are welcome on our own terms, in the Church we’re welcome on Jesus’ terms. That’s what it means to be a Christian, you submit yourself to Jesus and His teaching. You don’t recreate your own body of spirituality.”

Before you feel sorry for me, remember that the Church didn’t do this to me. I did this to myself when I disobeyed my God by walking away from my first marriage. Was I young and immature? Yes. Were there circumstances that drove me to such drastic measures? Sure. And yes, I am currently pursuing a Decree of Nullity, trusting God for a just decision. Whatever the outcome, I can not, and will not walk away from the Church for standing firmly on the teachings of Christ.

Some people may be shocked at the idea of submitting to a church that tells me because I’m divorced and remarried I can’t take Communion. But unless it can be shown otherwise, any tampering with Communion for the divorced and remarried will corrupt the doctrine of marriage, and—by diminishing the image of the Church as bride of Christ—debase the Church.

I have run to her for shelter. I now pray—for my sake, for my children’s—that the Church will not waver.
http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2014/11/my-plea
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:28pm On Nov 04, 2014
[b]'I hope they finish in top four but I can't be sure,' said Saha, who scored 42 goals in 124 appearances for United between 2004 and 2008.
'A club of this size should be looking for the fourth spot to be in the Champions League but it is not the case right now.
'You could say the issues are at the back but it's about balance, finding the right midfielder to keep the ball and a defender to be strong at a certain point of the game.

'It's difficult to predict what will happen but when you have a very balanced side you have balanced results.
'I'm not more experienced than Louis van Gaal to know what was a (defensive) regret for him but we will see at the end of the season, and what he does in this window this winter will be very important for Manchester United.'

'You always have to listen to what people say and maybe the defence is a bit weak or not experienced enough,' Saha said.
'He (Van Gaal) has to look at it and address that point for sure, but he is an experienced manager so I've no doubt he will do so.
'I have seen a slight change and you can see there is a bit more confidence and a bit more shape, but the result is not what you would expect from a side like this.
'Time will definitely be on his side more than David Moyes because of the experience he has and the trophies in all his clubs.
'You expect the Premier League to be a difficult challenge for any team and Manchester United has been struggling in the last two years, but in football you have to make the transition as soon as possible.'
But Saha rejected criticism that United's failure to improve under Van Gaal was down to the Dutchman being surprised by the intensity of the Premier League.
'He's experienced, he has plenty of gigabytes of information and people there with him who know about football,' Saha said.
'It would be unthinkable for Manchester United not to be in the Champions League again but the Premier League is a different league to what it was 10 years ago.
'There are many teams that have got huge players and the quality is greater - that's why I stopped, I think!
'The level and intensity what you can show every week is amazing, there are no easy games.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2818831/Louis-Saha-urges-Manchester-United-address-defensive-issues-January-risk-missing-Champions-League-again.html#ixzz3I8Levy4W
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:16pm On Nov 04, 2014
coogar:
11 goals/5 assists from the hole @ everton in 12/13? no freekicks, no awoof penalties. i think he's more than justified to be played in that role.

even your holy grail(whoscored) agrees with me. 12/13 was the only season fellaini played in the hole & that's his best season in england so far.

[img]http://164.177.157.12/img/blog/2014%2f11%2fFellaini.jpg[/img]
11 goals 5 assists from 31 starts?

Not okay to me. Well, we will see how things work out.

Can we see similar stat for Herrera?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:56pm On Nov 04, 2014
Michael Carrick believes the positives are there for all and to see and expects the Reds to start climbing the table in the coming weeks.

Michael Carrick is looking for the seven match programme in the build up to the festive season to answer the doubters.

“It is okay me saying we feel good and positive but it is up to us now in the weeks ahead building up to Christmas to have a big push and put ourselves right back up there again,

“If you look deeper than our disappointing points total there are certainly signs that we are still going to have a good year, we are still going to have a good season,” the 33-year-old added.

“There are just little things that maybe aren’t going for us and we are making little errors but I think overall the feeling is that we are still building to be successful and I think we will be.

“I know it’s not a good start. But the feeling is that it is better than that and we can show it in the weeks to come. You get a feeling within a squad and sense around the place and it is positive that we are going in the right direction and we are not far off being back to where we want to be.

“It’s just little things but they make a big difference and it is points that count. We are experienced enough to know that points are what you are judged on. But there is a real feeling that we can still do something special.

Michael Carrick is ready to step in again as an emergency defender.

“It is not something I have played an awful lot of I have had spells of it over the years playing two or three or four games in a season,” he says.

“If I need to play there then fine I have not had a lot of football recently so I will play anywhere.

I think we have different options and can play different formations we have a good variety now. We just need to get players fit and have more options to choose from.”

[Source: M.E.N]
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Manchester United need to go on a lengthy run to haul themselves into Champions League contention, according to the club’s former striker Dwight Yorke.

Louis van Gaal’s men are 13 points behind leaders Chelsea while they are also four off a Champions League place.

And while accepting the club have endured a tough start to the new season, York feels with the talent available at the club they are capable of going on a winning run.

“They need to go on a run of 10 to 12 games…and with all the players they have at the club they are capable of that,” he told Sky Sports.

“They now have a run of fixtures that they can win and I can see them going on a good run especially with players like Michael Carrick returning from injury.”
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Anderson was once considered one of the hottest European talents, signing for the Reds in 2007 for £17m.

The Brazilian midfielder has featured in two games for Louis Van Gaal, playing in the 4-0 Capital Once Cup defeat to MK Dons and then coming on as a sub at Burnley.

The former Porto man has not featured in a Man United squad since September and if there are no offers for him in January, Louis Van Gaal is prepared to terminate his contract.

Anderson’s contract runs out in the summer but The Telegraph claim Man United will pay the 26 year old £1.4m in January to leave.

He was placed on the transfer list this summer but Manchester United received no interest.

[Source: Telegraph]

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Victor Valdes is a step closer to signing with Manchester United.

The free agent has been training with United after recovering from knee surgery and is discussing terms.

And now Valdes took a big step towards clinching a move to United after he completed a medical at the club.

Any deal for Valdes would see Anders Lindegaard leave United in January.

[Source: The Sun, Tribal Football]
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:48pm On Nov 04, 2014
coogar:
he scored plenty of goals in that role at everton. he's the man of that position. the way his chest captures the ball & kills the ball dead can be used effectively to batter opponents.

fellaini should play in the hole in tough away games.
Not enough to make a case for him yet.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:40pm On Nov 04, 2014
^^^

You didnt address the part I was asking about Fellaini's effectiveness in the hole. Have you seen him there before?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
coogar:
that's an excellent post....
rooney is the big problem here. shoehorning rooney into the team is the big issue. van gaal wants him to be in the hole & that means fellaini can't play behind the strikers.
Have you tested Fellaini in the hole?

coogar:
rooney isn't good enough as a striker - he just has to shoot after going past 4 markers or sell the foul to zabaleta and get him sent off and win a penalty. it was the obvious choice in that situation. di maria is not effective in the wide position & januzaj needs a long loan(he needs to get out of the limelight).
You have over hammered this already. You don't usually highlight RVP's missed chances like this. RVP has missed more glaring chances- many- this season. Agreed Rooney made the wrong choice, but it can happen. You think you are making the better decision but you get caught. If he had succeeded, he would have opened them up completely with RVP and Di Maria to his right- plenty options. This is not enough to say someone is not a good striker. It could have happened to anyone except those aliens in Spain+ Bale. Messi could have chipped the goalkeeper sef. Hart was already out, though still standing.

Garry Neville needs to go review the number of chances RVP has missed this season to know how much he has depreciated in goal scoring. RVP and Mata were wasting Di Maria's passes from the midfield earlier in the season. Neville has suddenly forgotten all these.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:22pm On Nov 04, 2014
SIRcumalot:
This is why the fans aren't calling for his head plus the injury crisis.
It also helps that Liverpool aren't doing so well.
But you can ignore the fact that our fixtures have been relatively easy and we haven't taking advantage of it.
Chelsea should've been awarded at least a penalty for the fouls commited same thing happened against City.
And this quality gameplay we've been talking about has been greatly exaggerated.

@all what is our Ideal Centre Back pairing ?
Our players no get sense. They are kicking opponents in our box even when there is no danger.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:02pm On Nov 04, 2014
MicSmith:
Van gaal isn't doing better than moyes at this stage of the season and that's a fact that can be backed by our league position. We have more injuries and he has bn a bit partial in his team selection yet he hasn't bn criticized nearly as DM.

IMO this is beccause with VG you can see signs of progress and improvements in the team's approach but with Moyes it felt like the team was sinking. Also, due to our demise last year, expectations aren't very high. But with moyes, he inherited a team that jus won the league
A well balanced comment. Thumb up!

I think we fans should just chil and let Gaal settle. No need to put him under pressure now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:46pm On Nov 04, 2014
StarBoard:
no it cant be said to be weaker.
my point is van gaal made several changes to the squad.
its not yhe dame as when moyes took over
It was same team. Moyes even helped by adding Fellaini and Mata. Gaal had the team of 2012/2013. He decided the team was weak and dismantled it.

Moyes fell into a trap. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:26pm On Nov 04, 2014
coogar:
rooney had the best chance....if anything brings him down after that run, it woulda been a red card for whoever did & a clear penalty for us.

kompany was dragging fellaini & he made the contact with his shoulder instead of his head. fellaini played well on the day - the best i have seen of him in a red shirt.

di maria also had a glorious chance but he struck it too close to hart. van persie's close control at the touchline was also nice but he was shooting from a tight angle.

like i said, we did well with 10 men on sunday than we have done with 11 men in the last 4 times we have faced city. it was just too bad an individual error cost us a point or even 3 points.
My prayer is that we start getting results immediately and go on a winning run. We cannot afford to drop much points from our remaining 28 matches. Southampton is 9 points ahead. That's three good matches.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:08pm On Nov 04, 2014
coogar:
elampawa, can you explain briefly why rooney refused to shoot here?

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all he had to do was get across zabaleta & go down after any contact. zabaleta woulda been sent off & we would have had a penalty. rooney was great in the second half but he was one of the reasons we didn't get a point at the etihad.
I thought Fellaini had the best chance.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:50pm On Nov 04, 2014
coogar:
he's just talking bollocks.....
the moment anyone mentions how much united have spent this season, just walk away from such a debate & never go back
. grin cheesy
cheesy cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:43pm On Nov 04, 2014
Rojo's dad said God showed kindness on his family because his son will only miss two or three matches.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:34pm On Nov 04, 2014
StarBoard:
no the squad wasnt the same.
Van Gaal bought Blind, Rojo, Di Maria, brought in Falcao on loan.
Nani Kagawa Welbeck were sold/ loaned out, along with others whose contracts were not renewed.Evra left.
He shook up the squad big time.
up till the last minute of tge window in sugust we were still making changes to the squad.
Fergie never undertook such a massive overhaul of the team as we knew it like we did this summer. Agree or not?
ps feel free to expand the argument. I will reply when im stable. typing on the go is not convenient.
You have agreed now that Gaal inherited a weak team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:33pm On Nov 04, 2014
StarBoard:
can't reply you comprehensively. im on the move.
I'll just say that:
comparing a 3 month long reign to a nearly 30 year one and asking the former to provide a winning mentality does not apply here.
Dude is new. He has to get a semblance of a working unit. For some reason he has used up over 40 different players in just 10 league games due to an array of circumstances.
Fergie never had to do major overhauling overvthe years in terms of upgrading. in terms of personnel City and Chelsea had the players in terms of personnel to win the league in his last season in charge.
When Jose won the CL in 04 tell us how many superstars he had in his squad at that point.
its not always the side with the biggest number of stars that wins titles. Usually it's the ones who are hungrier and more motivated. correct me if im wrong.
I tell you age has absolutely nothing to do with how well a side performs. Its how well you harness the talent at your disposal that counts and in that regard , Moyes failed woefully.
You brought up new angles to this discussion in your writing above. Should we expand this it will affect your work (you are on the move). So let's just leave it.

* One area I need you to elaborate on your return. Agreed Moyes failed with Ferguson's squad. But the squad was intact when Gaal took over. So what rebuilding are you talking about now in your defence of Gaal?

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