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Louis van Gaal will not push the panic button in the transfer market – and insists United can bring in a new face in a day if and when they want to.

Since the double swoop of Herrera and Shjaw it has all gone quiet at Old Trafford.

But van Gaal insists that United can buy at the snap of a finger before the September 2 deadline.

“A player you can buy in 24 hours, believe me. That’s not a problem. I have said in press conferences already that I want to assess my team. I can only judge when I am the trainer and I transfer my philosophy. And I know how they perform my philosophy.

“So that’s what I am doing. Not only with the players that have trained and played football in the United States. But I gave these other players the chance of two weeks. I think that is honest. We have to wait and see."

United have been negotiating with Real Madrid about a possible deal for Ángel di María as well as trying to sign Sporting Lisbon’s left-back, Marcos Rojo.

When asked directly about Vidal in a move to United he replied ""I will discuss it with Ed Woodward, not you.


About United Position.
I am very confident. I am not nervous. Nine players injured and I am not nervous.”

[Source: M.E.N, Guardian]

SailorXY: ok I SEE THAT'S A TIE OF LIKES THERE
CHAI SEE BLOOD EVERYWHERE

Are you sure real humans 'liked' the post? I suspect there are ghosts on nairaland, Ghost likers.


Ukwu!!!

PietroRico: which keane?

He meant James.

15/08/2014 15:00, Report by A Marshall & M Froggatt

Van Gaal handles injured absentees

Louis van Gaal believes his squad is ready for the start of the Barclays Premier League season as Old Trafford prepares to welcome Swansea City for the Manchester United manager's first competitive game in charge.

The Dutchman is being forced to contend with a number of injury concerns after Michael Carrick was sidelined soon after the boss' arrival at the club. New signing Luke Shaw is also out for a month with a hamstring strain but van Gaal insists he has sufficient cover to approach Saturday's opener with confidence.

Robin van Persie is not fit enough to feature after his World Cup exertions with the Netherlands and Danny Welbeck is another forward out of action.

When asked about the injured players, van Gaal replied: "Sam Johnstone - the goalkeeper. Antonio Valencia, Shaw and Evans - three defenders. Welbeck. I believe that is it. Van Persie? No. He has to train. I've said that before.

"We have analysed Shaw and it is difficult to lay a finger on it. It is difficult to look for the solution but there are a lot of reasons. After the World Cup, all the players are coming back at different moments and it is very difficult to train. We have the travel, jet-lag and a lot of matches in 14 days. Another reason is the amount of training sessions but we are doing half of what I have done with the other clubs so I cannot assume we have done that wrong.

"We have played in the US with Reece James and Ashley Young in that position, so it is very well covered. I am very confident and I am not nervous. We have players injured and I am not nervous. We have beaten them all until now but tomorrow is the match that counts."

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Aug/louis-van-gaal-gives-team-news-ahead-of-swansea-opener.aspx?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd

* It looks like Shaw will be first choice for LWB.

* Let's hope we can win tomorrow. We are missing too many regulars.

coogar: nah, you told us you worked for him.
he taught you tactical football & whatever it was we were discussing - i can't remember now.

then again, there was a rumour in gboko then that amodu shuaib loved touching the gênitals of little boys. i need you to jog your memory & check if you weren't sêxually abused by him.

I hear you. That aspect of the argument is still in nairaland server.

coogar: if that's what your comprehension skills tell you, so be it. no, faster network makes one spend more time online. everything i do here is online. banking, studying, watching movies, etc.



you can't afford those quoted figures...
you don't even get to see gifs & YouTube videos posted on nairaland, stop quoting figures, i am not interested.



why are you getting agitated?
if what i said about you is untrue, why are you letting it get to you? who cares how regular power supply in your area is?

I hear you. I can't afford those figues. I don't get to see giff and youtube. Yet I post youtube. How much is 4G? 5k for glo on my laptop.

How did I even watch our preseason games? From calabash?

coogar: so who pushed elampiwhòre to tell us he used to work for amodu? who pushed nihilist to tell us he works for an IT company?

hop into the ring, don't distract me.
they said my nemesis is here, and i am hungry for blood. my salary is my salary, it's none of your fücking business.

Bros, I never said I used to work for Amodu. I said I know him very very well. And that's is a fact. Something brought us close to each other for certain period (for about a period of 2 year).

coogar: that's what you get with freedom & wealth in abundance. unlike you, i don't have to worry about NEPA or phone running out of battery. unlike you, i don't have to worry about paying for Glo-MB. unlike you, i don't have to work in construction sites as a labourer from 6am till 7pm. unlike you, i don't have to browse using a latern & slapping mosquitoes all night.

you should beg God to make your life as convenient as 10% of what i enjoy. thank God for vermins like you though. without your failure in life, people like me would not be described as being successful.

keep scratching....one day you would reach where i was in 1977.



promoter, your boxer has been down by technical knock-out and you have counted 1-10 more than 300 times. please, who's next on the card?

the coog is hungry for blood....

Soo you were already born in 1977. This is another revelation.

I also thought a faster network should make one spend less time online.

You amaze me, so you think people refrain from coming to nairaland because of MBs, NEPA, etc. Nairaland is the cheapest site to visit. It doesn't take anything from me. If you are using mobile phone, it's very cheap. If you had a blackberry phone it's far cheaper, you are going to browse internet free for 5 weeks with N1K subscription. If it's lap top, nairaland won't consume 500mb out of the 4GB to 6GB you are going to use in a month.

Again, how many people rely on NEPA even when the supply is far better now? In my area, we could have light for two to three days straight. May be cumulative of 6 days a week. I guess you left Naija in 1977 and you have never returned.

coogar: believe that nonsense & you would believe anything, you can put yourself on the card too. the more the merrier. i can do 5 of una today without having to break any sweat.

your own shall be the easiest - from being an okada rider to being amodu's ball boy. by the time i am done with you retärds, y'all would be begging for a username change.


where's the promoter? go and wake afrodoc up. useless coward, he waited till i logged off last night before posting. that's what cowards do - sneak an attack while the zeus sleeps.


if anyone of you illegitimate children is bold enough to rep your village, come at coogar right now that he's online & let's see if the association of market women in your villages wouldn't be wearing black to mourn y'all deaths for the next 21 days.

Bros I beg free me o. I not fit win you o. Before nairaland was crashed which led to lost of about 5 MONTHS data, I already saw you had spent 9 months of your last three years on nairaland. Then I knew I could never really run pages with you. Even after the data lost, now it shows you have spent about 8 months of your last 3 years nairalanding. Who can beat that? You are the champion!!!

I can see lot of things. It's better to be silent on issues like this.

However, when you reason someone was forced to post his annual income. This is like when Binghinya posted his pic to buttress his point. May be now Coogar will post his payslip.

It looks to me too Coogar finally agreed to tapout1's claims........ That's good- to be proud of ones job.

If an animal doctor earned £53k/annually why should a human doctor not earn more than half of that? Moreso when he's based abroad. In Nigeria, guys with good corporate jobs earn in that region or more (N10m to N20m). So why would someone have to sacrifice a whole village to earn N14 per annum?

afrodoc: Good points.
No one is perfect and if this transfer window ends in failure woodward and van gaal will both share the blame. More blame for woodward though IMO.
AND shaw and herrera can still come good.
Those writing off shaw after one month while giving fat Ando 3rd and 4th chances after years of poor form..........there is God oooo

Why more blame for Woodward? Has he failed to deliver on any target? Or should he have accepted to hand over Smalling on a swap deal?

Purist: So first I want to see surely the first three, four weeks - what they can do and then maybe I shall buy other players. And the players that we have bought now, Shaw and Herrera, were already on the list; so I gave my approval because I like them. [b]But first I want to see the players performing my philosophy."
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That was a one most comprehensive post. Kudos.

This part I selected clearly exonerated Wooward of any blame.

RuuDie: Why is there no tangible sign of activity now that he has fully assumed the mantle and has had time to assess the situation on the ground!?

They will still blame Woodward.. They want Wooward to start chasing after Khedira, Messi, Alonso, Mikel, Iheanacho, Isco, Robben, etc even when Gaal has said he is assessing the team to identify the gaps. And when it was clearly reported Gaal is holding Vidal's transfer. If we signed Vidal today, no one would remember sef Moyes ever scouted him.

Without Vidal's injury and his participation in the world cup, he would have been signed same time as Shaw and Herrera. Then the praise would go to Gaal.

We know Gaal is a world class coach, but it doesn't mean he can make no mistake. Shaw and Herrera aren't even mistakes yet. .

I am not in for his argument anymore. I just replied that. I have been busy, until night when I will read all the posts (arrears). Lol

StarBoard: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-transfers-luke-shaw-3059098#.UuNS2xBFDcs
http://www.redcafe.net/threads/luke-shaw-deal-done-almost.383141/
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27368029
That should answer your question about Shaw. The BBC even appears to infer that the deal was done in between windows before van Gaal was made manager.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/368526/Manchester-United-planning-a-summer-bid-for-Southampton-star-Luke-Shaw
That should tell you who originated whatever transfer there is about Shaw.

even more interesting is the discussion on the United fan board that seems to suggest that fans knew of the bid. Mid May around the time the season ended,again before van gaal was announced.
http://community.manutd.com/forums/p/281949/2542009.aspx

Was is the essence of all these links?

Did these same media not report Di Maria deal was done?

I will be back at night.

All I know is that Gaal admitted they are his signings. Who else should we listen to?

StarBoard: I think we have established that aside scouting trips, nothing was done in terms of trying to bring Kroos to United.
So let's forget that one.
His agent had said on at least two occasions that no bid had been received from United.
typical of the Moyes/Woodward combo.

I would not quote David moyes for anything in this world.

So, did Moyes make any bid for Shaw before we eventually signed him?

Did Barca bid for Neymar those 4 years or more they verbally made him their property?

Are we even allowed to bid for a player competing for his top division team when the transfer window haven't opened.

StarBoard: *van Gaal said he needed to assess his players.If he already knew them there was no need to assess them.
*You said he rushed back from Brazil. but even at that, Giggs did not meet with van Gaal after May 14.
5 days later van Gaal was announced as United manager.
If giggs is revealing to you that two have signed (as far back as May), he must be referring to advanced state of negotiations on those Shaw and Herrera deals in a bid to convince van Gaal about the direction of the United side that would convince him to sign.
*the timing of the revelation does not change the fact that the deals were almost done/negotiations taking place when he met van Gaal in May.

I am busy. I can't write much. It looks like you are getting the sequence of these things wrong.

I never said Giggs met Gaal in Brazil. They met in Holland. Gaal told Giggs some players he liked that may come in. In late June after signing Valencia, Shaw and Herrera, Giggs revealed two of the players Gaal liked have (now) come in.

As per the preseason, are you insinuating Gaal shouldn't have tested Shaw and Herrera because he liked them? Even if Gaal bought Vidal and Di Maria, they would still be made to go to tour and compete with the rest for overall assessment of the squad for possible further signings.

coogar: i can prove that 100%
herrera was even willing to cover some of the costs last summer & paper work prevented the deal from happening last season.

we were never interested in kroos or hundreds of other names that have been bandied here in the last 6 months. that's just newspaper nonsense you & others love to swallow line hook & sinker.

kroos agent denied the claim vehemently & told the media we never even submitted a single bid to sign his player. so how can van gaal cancel a deal that was never on?

* Moyes wrote: “It is no secret that I had put a lot of groundwork into signing [Kroos] for Manchester United.

“What I like about Kroos is that he plays the ball to penetrate, he doesn’t do passing for passing’s sake.”

Kroos has recently revealed that he has spoken to new manager Louis Van Gaal, with one of football’s longest running transfer sagas threatening to drag on past the World Cup.

The former Everton boss also suggested that, given the opportunity, he would have gladly brought ex-Manchester United man Paul Pogba back to the club.

“I would have tried to bring him back to Manchester United,” added Moyes.

“He has flourished in Serie A since joining Juve at the age of 19 but that has been no surprise to those who worked with him at Old Trafford.”

http://www.squawka.com/news/ex-manchester-united-manager-wanted-to-sign-kroos/121523

* Herrera's deal was to be last year. It failed and that ended it. Gaal could have cancelled any thing on ground if there was still any. Chikena.

StarBoard: Are we still on that matter?
There is more than enough evidence to conclude van gaal didn't sign the duo.

Two separate interviews.
One during the world cup and one after.
Which would you take?

Plus, you have not answered me.
If he knew Herrera and Shaw as well as you people claim he did through that Giggs interview, since according to you,he signed them,then there was no need for them to go on the tour.
It is that simple.

first o, tell me, unless I'm missing something, was Giggs in Brazil this summer?
Giggs met with van Gaal on May 14, before van Gaal was unveiled as manager in the Netherlands, and not in June/July in Brazil as you would have us believe. He(Giggs) was a Supersports Pundit for part of the first round of the world Cup. He rushed back to the UK to complete his UEFA Pro License course before taking over preseason training in the absence of van Gaal. He never went to van Gaal in Brazil.

http://tellynewser..fr/2014/06/ryan-giggs-has-left-supersports-world.html

Tell us how he made those comments alluding to Shaw and tell us how a person who was being met with and was 5 days later appointed United manager was part of the process that brought in those two, in line with those comments by giggs.

As said earlier, the Shaw and Herrera signings were part of a sales pitch to van Gaal to convince him to sign on as manager.

* So if Gaal knew Herrera and Shaw, they shouldn't be in our preseason tour? I don't get it.

* The Giggs Brazil stuff, I meant Supersports. I mentioned that earlier.

* Giggs met Gaal in May. But never granted interview until Shaw and Herrera were signed. Two of the players Gaal told him he liked. That is why he said two of them have arrived.

coogar: which chelsea was shaw joining? prove to us here that chelsea made "official bids" to sign luke shaw. also prove we were ever interested enough to submit an official bid to bayern munich to sign kroos.

mourinho who's far more rabid than van gaal had transfers imposed on him by his employer & yet van gaal would cancel a deal that almost made woodward a laughing stock last summer. when you become a manager, the first thing you should do is to cancel what your employer had been chasing for 12 months.

your promotion would be rapid!

Can you also prove to us Shaw and Herrera deals were 90% completed?

coogar: dem no born him papa well. stop which transfers? you think this is swansea or chelsea - football institutions with no history? how would it have looked on van gaal to stop deals that were 90% into completion? it would then mean he doesn't trust the judgement of his assistant & his chairman.

white people don't reason like that!



yes - the deals were in the pipeline before my arrival. united had identified, contacted & negotiated with the agents of the players involved. personal terms had been agreed on herrera since last season. documentation & deadline stopped the deal last summer. why wouldn't i trust the judgement of my employer and the person i personally chose to assist me?



that's different - it does not concern giggs or woodward who van gaal decides to sell or make a captain. transfer deals nearing completion before van gaal's arrive concerns everyone at the top.

deadline day prevented us from signing herrera last season. promises must have been made last summer that we would come for him this year. more often than not, herrera would have been lured to sign a pre-contract agreement as at january to ensure no other big club comes for him.

how can van gaal overrule such? i reiterate, dem no born him papa well.

How was Shaw deal under 90% completion when he could have joined Chelsea ahead of us? Deals get cancelled the last minute.


How come he had the power to stop Kroos negotiations?

StarBoard: So how come the same van Gaal tells people after that said interview you people are clutching to that he needs to assess his players before signing anybody?
Did that include Herrera and Shaw?
If yes, then we can conclude there was no need for the duo to go on preseason tour because he already knew them.
If no, then he didn't sign them. Simple.

* They are two separate interviews na. Look well.

* Giggs gave his after he hurried back from Brazil mid way into the world cup to sign Valencia, Shaw and Herrera. Gaal gave his after all his players (old and his new signings) were already assembled and training under him.

* Gaal meant he needed to access his players before making additional signings. These interviews were done in a question and answer format and I have read them as they were published.

coogar: when this interview was made had no relevance to the matter. van gaal reiterated he needed to assess his players before knowing what to buy - logic dictates none of the players currently at united as of today were van gaal's signing.

yet, he might have "approved" the signings and that is because he would have trusted the judgement of giggs(his assistant) & woodward(his chairman) on those transfers. it's not because he knew them enough to have signed them if he was acting single-handedly.

as of today, van gaal hasn't made his own signing.

But do you agree that Gaal could have stopped these signings?

I guess over £50m was spent on these two boys. If you were the coach of Man United, would you just allow £50m to be spent without your own conviction?

The moment Gaal took over, he became responsible for transfer. Even a village manager wouldn't know he has to be the one to be responsible for deals once he takes over a 'shop'. Gaal could have made Cleverley the captain and sell Rooney to PSG and nobody will talk.

Dadehmola: Nobody put a gun to his head before he made those specific statements. There are so many other things he could have said about shaw and Herrera in that press conference.

Gbam! In a press conference for that matter.

Dadehmola: The way it stands, LVG approved those deals, and he confirmed it by specifically mentioning the names of the players involved.

It very clear even from Giggs statement. Giggs was speaking to press after Shaw and Herrera singed late June, then he clearly was referring to Herrera and Shaw as the two who HAVE come in. He didn't use 'HAD' - which would have implied they came in earlier than when he (Giggs) met Gaal.


It's simple English.

coogar: please please....don't start your early morning madness here with your lack of comprehension.

van gaal


unless van gaal has been watching luke shaw & herrera since last year(before moyes was even appointed), then it's clear as daylight he didn't sign shaw & herrera.

it then begs the question - why would van gaal be monitoring players that were yet to become united players when he himself was yet to become a united manager?

so van gaal had seen enough of luke & herrera to sign them but he hadn't seen enough of the united players he was supposed to manage & he now needs time to assess them first?

elampawa, where's your logic?

This interview was given on 23 Jul 2014, after Gaal had been training with Man United players for days including his two signings (Luke and Herrrera) who have joined 3 weeks before.

StarBoard: Take the whole statement, na. Why 5 words?
This is a clear example of convenient arguing, bro.


don't get you bro.
you haven't told us when Giggs had that meeting with van Gaal. Yet you want to force tenses down my throat.

You don't get it?

Giggs gave this interview on 10/07/2014 after Herrera and Shaw had been signed.

He said these two have come in.




Assuming Giggs said two 'had' come in. You could then imagine he referred to players bought before he was made United boss.

StarBoard: How so?
The emboldened says it all.

* Two have already come in. = Two of them have now come in.

* Two had already come in. = Two of them had already be signed before Gaal took over.

It's the first above. Moreover, Gaal has confirmed that he sanctioned those transfer because he like them, in a press conference.

StarBoard: Thanks a lot for the clarification.
Apparently everyone else aside from the two of us believes in the illusion that van Gaal was responsible for signing those two.

The fact remains that Ed Woodward is an incompetent person when it comes to signings. Luke shaw's signing is just another bold confirmation.

No no. Coogar misinterpreted it 100%. I want to believe it is deliberate too.

coogar: luke shaw & herrera were 99% united players before we signed van gaal. we missed herrera last summer cos moyes went on ghost chasing fabregas & thiago. shaw rumours were way before moyes was even sacked.

according to giggs.....

"When we met at the end of last season we went through the players who are here and some of the players he liked that will maybe come in. Two have already come in," said Giggs. "It's always hard during the World Cup because a lot of the players you're looking at could still be part of the World Cup, or they’ve just gone out and are now going on holiday for a rest. I'm not sure how many players will come in - we'll have to wait and see.

Giggs is saying, two of the targets Gaal wanted had already come in. Giggs gave that interview after he returned home to sign and announce the renewal of Val's contract and the signing of Herrera and Shaw.

Ryan Giggs has revealed the details of his first meeting with new Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal, explaining how the Dutchman convinced him to become his assistant at Old Trafford.

"When we met at the end of last season we went through the players who are here and some of the players he liked that will maybe come in. Two have already come in," said Giggs. "It's always hard during the World Cup because a lot of the players you're looking at could still be part of the World Cup, or they’ve just gone out and are now going on holiday for a rest. I'm not sure how many players will come in - we'll have to wait and see.

"I flew out and spent a couple of hours with him. We went through players who were at the club - ones who may be going, ones who may be coming in. I was there to find out how he works, what he likes and give him an insight into anything he might not know about Manchester United. He knew a lot, as you might expect. But any little thing I could help him about I tried to. We didn’t dwell on what happened last season."

Expanding on his point, Giggs continued: "Louis has a clear philosophy and he sticks to that philosophy. He won't be afraid of taking over Manchester United. He'll relish it.

He’ll look forward to it. He's been at Bayern, Barcelona... he’s been at huge clubs. Obviously, in my view, Manchester United is the biggest.

"He's not scared about the challenge, he’s not apprehensive - he can't wait. He has the experience to do it. It won’t be easy. It never is. The Premier League's a tough league to win but that's what we'll try to do. I was excited about how forthright and how clear he was about what he expects from the staff and the players."

When pressed on Holland’s performance in Brazil, where they were tipped for glory until a dramatic penalty shootout defeat to Argentina saw them exit the competition at the semi-final stage on Wednesday, Giggs was unsurprisingly impressed by his new boss.

"It was disappointing to see them go out last night but it's been a fantastic campaign for him, starting with a result nobody could have foreseen. The 5-1 against Spain was maybe the standout performance of the tournament. Obviously it’s been great for the United fans to watch and for the players to see him do so well.

"It's excited everyone. He's mixed up his formations and he’s juggled around the players. To get to the semi-finals of the World Cup is a great achievement. He'd have liked to have gone further but it wasn't to be. The group he was in... to get out of that was an achievement in itself, so I'm sure he'll be pleased to go so far."

http://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/2ac2qn/giggs_reveals_his_meeting_with_van_gaal/







^^
Another confirmation.

Dadehmola: How isn't it his making when he clearly confirmed that he was the one who approved those signings? Does LVG even cut across as someone who'd be cowed into taking decisions?

Our manager has spoken. Under such circumstances, it's his word over any other person's.

You always speak my mind on this issue. Gaal said in a press conference.......

Abi he dey lie for e own head?

Gaal is a domineering, worse than SAF in that aspect. Woodward wouldn't buy except Gaal sanctions it.