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RuuDie: Well, I always knew it was heading in this direction; for some of the same things the previous gaffer would have been crucified for, folks will be looking for where to shift the goal-post to. Now, all of a sudden, Woodward is trending... by game 5, it may be Giggs. smh!

Exactly, Gaal admitted he sanctioned the purchase of Herrera and Shaw. Very clear. Moyes said recently he had advanced the transfer of Kroos. But report has it that Gaal stopped the move. Perhaps because he wanted to play wingbacks. Lol

Gaal also sanctioned the extension of Valencia contract after he saw his first game at the world cup. Giggs was a Super Sports analyst for the world cup, but he said he had to return home for an assignment. I doubt if Moyes would have given Val 3 years extension with all the talk of overhauling the team.

Gaal gave Evra one year extension despite the former captain had made it clear he wouldn't stay at Old Tradford earlier last season.

Gaal also didn't retain Fedinand.

From the onset it was reported Gaal said he would build his team around Rooney, RVP, DDG and Mata.

The man knew what he wanted even before he was made coach. Gaal doesn't look to me like someone who Giggs/Woodward will force players on. He's too a domineering for that.

Dadehmola, thanks.

I didn't know you had already responded.

Gaal admitted he sanctioned Shaw and Herrera deal. Some of you guys aren't fair in apportioning blame. He said he sanctioned them because he liked both players.

In same vain, you guys blamed Moyes the last time for our transfer deals or no deals. It is surprising you people aren't blaming Gaal this time around despite the fact he has several times alluded to be the one calling the shot or guiding our transfer activities. You put the whole blame on woodward instead.

chrisley024: His mention of Di maria could mean he's after him

Who wouldn't want Di Maria in his team with his enormous ability? His name alone goes with prestige. The aura around him will be great. The number 7 shirt straight- and to immediately be the most sold shirt in the EPL.

SailorXY: "At this moment, we have five number nines and four
number 10s – and we don't have wingers to give us
attacking width," he told reporters.
"Or, I should say, we don't have wingers of the
highest level, like Ronaldo or Di Maria or somebody
like that.
"So, I have to play in another way – and you have seen that
already. I only buy when I think we need to buy – in the
position that is necessary."

I don't know what exactly van Gaal is implying here, but I think he means that our no. 9s & 10s are @ levels he likes
he will also prefer better wingers than what he's currently got

SailorXY, take time oh. How can you say you don't know what Gaal is implying? Let me help you.

Gaal implies Ronaldo and Di Maria are wingers of the highest order. Note it 'highest order'.

Gaal implies non of our wingers is near that level- including Ashley Young. Infact he said 'NO winger to give us attacking width'.

Gaal implies he cannot play 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 because all our current wingers are not of world class quality as Ronaldo and Di Maria or someone like that t deliver the goodies for a big club like Man United.

Gaal implies he has no problem in the number 10 and 9 positions irrespective of the formation he wants to play. But there are too many players there. With good price, some would be sold.

Gaal implies he needs to buy a world class winger if available.

EXCLUSIVE: The Ajax midfielder reveals there has been no serious interest from the European giants but admits he would find it difficult to reject any potential advances

"Of course, it's flattering when you're linked with clubs like Manchester United and Barcelona," Blind told Goal.

"It would be very hard to turn down these kind of clubs. But there's no serious interest as of yet.

"You can never make promises in football. When you make a promise, you have to stick to it. There are plenty of players who promise to stay and then leave after all. I am keeping my options open. I am very happy in Amsterdam and at Ajax, but you never know what could happen."

http://www.goal.com/en/news/596/exclusive/2014/08/09/5018947/daley-blind-it-would-be-very-hard-to-turn-down-manchester-united-?CMPID=FBINT=140809_daleyblind

coogar: you are a disgrace to all the people of edo state. why is it so difficult for you to admit you are clueless? he wasn't saying sturrudge is the natural-9, he said sturridge is the number-9 in their set up & how it's important for him to always be in the box.

suarez is the hard worker that drops deep & dribbles everything in his way into the opponents box. sturridge mostly sits on the shoulder of the last defender. that's what suarez is explaining & he even said he felt less pressure whenever he was about to start a match cos sturrudge now carries the responsibility to score the goals!

OMG!!! That interview was published Oct 25 2013. Just after Suarez returned from suspension and his first three league games for Liverpool.

The Pope must hear this!!!!!!!!

How can you even think of using such to define the whole season? Sturridge had played as the striker in 5 matches during Suarez suspension. They only had three matches together before the interview was published. There were still 30 matches to be played. Gosh! I give up.

* Also,You should be ashamed of yourself not to know that the interview may have been edited from it's disjointed original (bad) taste .

coogar: but they can never know better than suarez. find us an interview where sturridge says suarez is number-9 or where sturridge said he's number-10. shikena!

That disjointed interview? Where they had to refer to another interview perhaps conducted by another journalist? Perhaps Suarez poor English? Looks to me he was trying to say Sturridge is a natural number 9. Not really that he has been playing 9. It could also mean that he referred to a just finished match.

You compare that with verifiable records?

coogar: you lost when suarez himself said he isn't the number 9. ZM cannot know better than the striker himself. go home, tell your wife to apply balm to the body blows you received tonight. unless you can find any sturridge interview that says suarez is the number 9, just shut it & go to bed.

I have produced his data from two credible sources.

I have published almost all Liverpool matches with top 6 or 7 teams. Including two lower teams. Where has Suarez even played in the wing. Yet they want us to think he scored 30+ goals from the wing.


I beg I have things to do with my precious time and life. This isn't funny anymore. This is a bad habit.

^^

Tortoise. Kpele. See more below. Yet to find where Suarez played on the wide and Sturridge in the middle. Suarez always the arrow or at worst both level.

coogar: he played higher when he confessed himself he wasn't the real number-9 in the area. so who's the real-9 for liverpool then, was it emenike?


elampawa - you are a fücking disgrace.
in your stüpid images you stole from ZM, sturridge wasn't on the pitch when suarez was in the centre forward position, how does that connect to the argument?

the question is - where did suarez play when sturridge was on the pitch?

Look at the man who told us few days ago that the press quote what they like.

Coogar, why art thou so confused? You have tortoise and tortoise so tayyyyyyyyyyyy you tortoised your own sense.

* I have given you facts upon facts. I gave you a link to Suarez 31 starts from CF. I have given you evidence that he played as a CF. But you maradonad yourself to think he was a right winger. Self delusionnnn!!!

See evidence up there and stop talking. Suarez may have said that after one or two matches of shuffling. I have gi en you countless concrete proof.

^^

Suarez even played higher.

Ukwu!!!

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coogar: you are a plonker!
given that 80% of all football players score their goals around the penalty area, it then makes them strikers. every time vidic has scored for man utd in the box, it means he's a striker.

you are a disgrace to the people that contributed the sex cells that made your conception possible. from coutinho/sterling aren't regular to suarez scoring all his goals in a striker position.....what idiocy is left for you to display?



says the man that told us lampard dusted scholes in a simple statistic presented. in the gathering of people accursed with down syndrome, you would be the life president.

explain to us when coutinho/sterling were irregular.




elampawa is a disgrace!
on a more serious sports forum where trolls are prohibited, elampawa would have been weeded off with a life ban.

Mr Tortoise,



Swansea.
The front three was once again re-shuffled, this time Suarez used through the middle and Sturridge narrow on the right.
http://tomkinstimes.com/2014/02/liverpool-4-swansea-3-in-depth-tactical-analysis/

Everton
All three of Suarez, Sturridge and Sterling interchanged at various points but we were most dangerous with Sturridge left, Sterling right and Suarez central. Sturridge and Sterling's job is either to drop into midfield to overload Everton's defensive midfield or make a diagonal run in behind from a wide position.* Suarez's job is either to drop into midfield or to occupy the centre backs, he tends to make later runs in behind, generally when we approach the penalty area. No two men do the same job at the same time, the variety keeps it difficult to defend against. They are supported by the midfield runs of Henderson and Coutinho, who also do a vital job of linking between Gerrard and the front 3. Here are some examples:
http://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/1wnxpb/some_tactical_analysis_of_the_derby/


Shape

We lined up 4-3-3 and they lined up 4-2-3-1. This meant our players mirrored each other throughout the pitch during our defensive phase reducing Everton's attacks into a series of one on one battles. Making the pitch look like this.

When in our offensive phase, Sturridge or Suarez would drop into the area of a traditional number 10, whilst the other occupied the centre halves and Henderson and Coutinho also attacked the number 10 space from deeper. Hence the somewhat unpopular "two number 9 and a halfs" Rodgersism. The result being that we overloaded McCarthy and Barry 3 to 2 when we attacked because neither Everton's centrebacks or Joss Stones were willing to be pulled so far out of defence by Suarez/Sturridge. More on this later

coogar: elampawa is a disgrace!
on a more serious sports forum where trolls are prohibited, elampawa would have been weeded off with a life ban.

Tortoise, you are a disgrace. Is bleecher report better than what you saw your self?

coogar: you are the stark illiterate.....
what is the meaning of coutinho & sterling becoming regular? when have they ever been irregular? are you out of your mind?



so when suarez was the CF, where was sturridge? a midfielder? opta said sturrudge appeared 26 times & played 26 times as a CF. look at the image i posted & stop lying to us.




i have shown opta formation that placed suarez wide with sturridge in the centre. those were some of their big games last season - against spurs & arsenal.

at least show us one evidence that sturridge was a winger like you lied to us. high concentration of lies must have coagulated the semën that made you. that was how you lied last night too in the face of clear stats that lampard was better than scholes.

i don't even know whether to call you a pathological liar or a raving stark illiterate. stats you cannot read. cognitive reasoning - you lack it. from one side of your lips, it's a fluid 3. from another side, suarez was the CF.

almost 3 years of posting on NL & your deductive reasoning continues to decline. you are now worse than when you first emerged from the wilderness called facebook sports page. i suggest you go back there again for a comprehensive brain reset.

Tortoise, Suarez was a CF. I have proven you wrong over and over again that your opta is shyte when it comes to formation.

My argument was that Suarez scored his goals from strikers position. Chikena!!!

You are worst liar ever since creation. Illiterate. If you were taken into prehistory era, you would still be an ignoramus. What a pity. Mr Tortoise, you are irredeemable in your crooked ways.

If Yaya Toure were a European or a South American he would be earning £300k per week for his contribution to Man City.

Nihilist: Oh really?

Post the full squawka comparison matrix including the overall scores


Vidal's overall performance rating from Sqwaka(The website Coogar referenced above) is 540

Toure's is 1380


Abegiiiiiiii

You won an away match by 10-0.

This wayo chart they have been presenting since...... Hahahahaha. See as Yaya school Vidal.


Yaya toure 1380, vidal 530.
Case closed.

Ukwu!!!

coogar: who wrote this?
https://www.nairaland.com/871307/official-manchester-united-fan-thread/838#25320519


you are a bloody liar.
if i earn a pesewa for each time slippery lies have fallen outta your mouth, i would be twice as rich as bill gates.




sturridge played as a centre forward each time he started. injury kept sturridge out of the squad each time he didn't start. stop lying to us here.

after telling us the forward line is fluid, you are now saying suarez was the centre forward. if the front 3 is fluid, how does that make suarez the composite centre forward?

elampiro, lying to the public since 1856

* I want to believe you are not an illiterate. Can you see that was a conditional statement? 'When Suarez, Coutinho and Sterling became regulars'. I never said Strurridge didn't play with them.

* Suarez was a CF. It became fluid only when one was played out wide, and it didn't happen many times.



You are just a tortoise. Just give up the argument. You lost already. Lie lie Coogar- Suarez was a winger. Lol. Liar from conception.



Ukwu!!!

StarBoard: Injury to Sturridge and suspension to Suarez are responsible for a good number of those 17 games last season.
It isnot like Brendan rodgers decided to sit either of the two.

I know. I was only still trying to emphasize Suarez didn't play in the wing. Already we are seeing situation where either of them played as a solo striker. I also remember few occasions I saw Coutinho started and I wondered why it wasn't Sturridge. I think Sterling was always there.

debosky: Elampiro is full of BS as usual - Liverpool played TWO strikers - there was no 'dominant' centre forward. This is what Brendan Rogers said:

"What I've found is that if I play one up top and one wide, I take a little bit away from them. They work better as a proper front two.
"In Suarez and Sturridge, I've got what I call two 'nine-and-a-halves'.
"They both like to move, they like to drift and they both like to go into the half-positions in between the lines.
"You've got two great players as your front two and then you build the structure around that.
"I'm not the traditional 4-4-2 man and with the players we've got we can make this system work.

But no - Elampiro knows more than the coach fielding the players. Mumu.

Are you an illiterate that you cannot understand this is what I have been saying since. That Suarez was a striker, but Coogar said he was a winger- number 7 like Valencia. Ukwu!!!

Anyway thanks for the confirmation. But if I may add, do you realize that Suarez and Sturridge played about 17 matches apart?

For empasis sake, the argument is that Suarez scored his goals which put him as the best striker in Europe, as a number 9. But Coogar said it was from the wing.

Thank you again for the clarification.










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coogar: you are a consummate rogue!
sturridge appeared 26 times & played 26 league games in the CF position.

didn't you also tell us sturridge never featured with coutinho & sterling on the pitch? you lie every hour of the day. what are you?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1609463_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

* You are a rogue, liar. When did I tell you that Asturridge never featured with Coutinho and Sterling? Pls pay attention to details.

* I maintain my stance, Suarez played in the centre forward. In most of the matches it was even Sturridge drifting wide to try his tricks. Again do you realize Suarez didn't even start the season? He missed 5 matches. That mean Suarez could possibly have played maximum of 21 matches together with Suarez. Yet you want to make us believe. Suarez played in the wing. Thank God for whoscored.

All the big games ke. When Suarez was the number 9 at OT. Sturridge drifting wide to take away one of our CMs.


I am tired.

Coogar, I have told you before. Opta chart is hardly accurate. We saw this when Arsenal played Bayerm Munic and many more. Ozil would be assume to be in the hole whereas he played on the right.


Bye jor. I lost so much time. May be tomorrow we continue. This is too time consuming sef.

coogar: blame moyes for that.....if we had a penalty taking midfielder, scoring goals is no biggie.

elampiro, caught lying again......

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1609267_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188



from the same lying lips that told us sturridge was always on the bench whenever coutinho & sterling started. you disgrace yourself when you lie bold-faced on this forum.

how come all the big games of liverpool that featured suarez & sturridge always shafted suarez to the side with sturridge in the centre forward position? how come sturridge started games that also featured coutinho & sterling in the starting line up?

elampiro, cover your face in shame.

Suarez
CF= app 31 . Gls/ass 32/11
FL= 3..........1goal/0 assist
FR= 1..........0 assist 1 goal

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/22221/





I have told you. You didn't watch these games. Suarez was Liverpool number one centre forward. They also played fluid games. Sometimes two man forward as we had in Old Trafford.



Bye.







Ayagayagayagayo hei, ayagayagayagayo.

coogar: elampiro caught lying again for the 17,6745th time.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1609243_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

Suarez was a striker. So if you are able to pull out one or two charts Rooney played in the wing in 2012/13, it will mean he was a winger that season?

Moreover, whbat you produced was a fluid 3. You didn't watch those matches.

coogar: how many of our midfielders got the opportunity to score 6 league goals from the penalty spot. toure's goal haul last season was an anomaly.

ramsey clearly bested him & he didn't add awoof goals to his goal haul.

* What stopped our CMs from scoring from open play? Toure still beat their collective goals with his open play stat.

coogar: stop lying to us...
sturridge appeared 29 times in the league(same as wayne rooney) and he was a centre forward for liverpool in all those games.

29/38 is not rotation.

Stop lying, you didn't follow Liverpool games.

*Suarez did not start the season. Liverpool played Sturridge.

* Sturridge did not play games when Courtingo, Sterling and Suarez became regular.

* Suarez was Liverpool striker, and not a winger.

coogar: so toure needs his partner to function? that clearly shows toure is overrated. matic mauled toure.



which of carrick, cleverley, anderson, scholes, etc have played the number-10 role for us in the league? which of them have scored 6 goals from the penalty spot?



how many midfielders get the opportunity to score 13 goals from set plays?

All our midfielders participate in corner kicks. How many people goals did they score collectively?

Hugoboi: Elampiro, look at the charts Keky posted and tell us how Toure is better than Vidal, even after having played more minutes?

That chart says nothing. That Crystal Palace CM will beat all the guys there on those parameters. Even Phil Jones.