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coogar: which is even the more reason you should listen to me. y'all nearly killed de gea with criticisms then but i remember telling you guys his problems were teething problems that would soon be over.
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My problem with DDG then has to do with the fact he was not ready. I always mentioned that he would rule the world later. But you know how it is when a great keeper like VDS who makes life easy retires. And the replacement is not a keeper like Neuer.

In contrast, Ashley Young is not getting younger and he has not had a great season in United as we saw Valenica and Nani did for us. Young has been getting worse by the season. Although I have never written him off.

We have had a season when Val was our best player (2011/12). He was our 2nd best too in 2010 behind Rooney. Nani was our best in 2011 (I think). But Young only have a good first impression at best.

I won't blame those who felt he was finished.

So Adnan will have to battle for the number 10 role. Wahala dey. The team is really unbalanced particularly with 3-4-1-2.

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Absolutely! You're right.

coogar: cleverley has played better than herrera in the advanced role. herrera is the better tackler as well.

Hope we are not going to kill Herrera's creativity as Chelsea did to Mikel.

But Gaal keeps referring to Herrera as a number 10.

coogar: but we were told here cleverley is only good at burnley fc or portsmouth by dademola. cleverley that is the best one touch passer in old trafford.

let him settle down this season with a competent herrera behind him to mow down the opposition & you will see the cleverley of the early parts of 11/12.

it just goes to show many here don't watch football with their eyes open.
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in another news, premier league to use vanishing spray next season.......i expect van persie & the fat scouser to score at least 10 freekick each next season.

So Herrera will play behind Cleverley?

Dadehmola: I need the ones for hazard and Nasri.

He should remove them and prove to me that Nasri and hazard have been better than Valencia and young, since he said stats don't lie

Even with set plays, Young assists stat is better than Nasri and Hazard stats.



I get what you mean now.

Dadehmola: Oga, remove the goals and assists that came from setplays and get back to me! I don't need all these meaningless epistles!!

He has removed one season for you already.

It looks like the passing game of Gaal greatly benefited Cleverley. Cleverley's energy level seems to have highly improved, and it gave him an upper hand. But, it shouldn't be forgotten that Inter made only one change at half time. Our players were probably fresher in the 2nd half.

However, our overall play has improved so much. So much passing accuracy, good first touches, fast passes, mobility and so much energy. One thing missing- our forward players aren't natural dribblers. Only Zaha is a dribbler, but he doesn't have the experience. Januzaj is too young to make it. Nani is not in form.

Luke Shaw has admitted that manager Louis van Gaal was right to question his fitness.

Shaw said he "totally agreed" with comments about his fitness made by Van Gaal in a news conference this week. Shaw has been put on a special fitness programme by the United manager.

"To play in this formation you have to be really fit. I am fit but I am not at the high level he demands, I have got to get fitter to get up and down. It's something I have got to work on,"

[Source: BBCSport]

Dadehmola, Cleverley played very well yesterday. Let's hope for consistency.

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Rooney, Mata and RVP took our set play last season. I am sure if the set play stat is taken from when both guys arrived (season by season), a clearer picture will emerge. Particularly on the assist stats.

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Valencia is the only one who doesn't take set plays.

The only one who doesn't attack corner kicks.

coogar: so bebe's freekick was a lie. bebe scoring 7 wonder goals in 10 games at a point for his club was a lie?

Not a lie. But don't you think such impressive stats should have got him into Man United 1st eleven

coogar: nonsense!
the goals/assists say everything. whoscored doesn't even define assists like the premier league does so that's one chink in your armour.

Premier league also use same stat as opta. They have a partner which compile their players stat, and that company which provides feeds for EPL players performance index uses same parameters to arrive at its assists stat as opta. I have mentioned the name of that company previously here, and it is well stated in the EPL website.

Outside the above, whoscored has a way of awarding scores for penalties won and unintended assists like rebound or deflection which resulted to goals. This is why their rating is more comprehensive.

coogar: besides, they rate number of appearances & so many other irrelevant indices are graded to come out with their overall stats.

Number of appearance is never never a factor. This has been proven over and over again. It's purely cumulative average. The Man United chart team ratings over seasons are clear examples. The last whoscored EPL XI is clear example. The world cup ratings were clear examples.

coogar: you were never invited in the first place.

You shouldn't have mentioned my name in the argument. You have other avenues to invite me.

Coogar, I thought too Young takes corner kicks and free kicks. Something Val doesn't do. I saw a report a while Valencia's assists from open play in 2011/12 was the highest in EPL.

While attacking corner kicks, Valencia doesn't stay in the opposition box, he and Rafael are detailed to stay back to quench any counter attack- guess due to their athleticism.

All these you don't take into consideration.

coogar: compare like for like na!
i thought the argument was between young & valencia. why involve big money signings?

U 4got to add 'apples and oranges'.

coogar: elampiro lies, dademola lies, numbers never lie.

You forgot the other never lies too.... as in your gifs and videos. Like Bebe scoring a free kick from your gif.

* But you forgot you can look up their seasons ratings on whoscored. Valencia and Silva were contesting for the best right winger in 2011/12. Before breaking his leg the first time Val was on the verge of becoming the best winger in the world if he was not already there. Your goals and assists stats do not capture everything, the fact that Val's whoscored rating was higher goals to tell so much.

I am not into this debates of Young and Cleverley, so I am not gonna respond to you again.

chrisley024: LvG says he's the best of the four GKs

Our goalkeepers are no good at penalties. They hardly save a penalty in the league and cup games.

So good from the boys.

DDG seems not to be good at penalties.

Our boys were very mobile in the second half. But what was Nani's offense? I saw him try to dribble twice but he fell down. Was that it?

Nani came on at half time and got substituted again at 76th minute.

Zaha is having a good game.

Kai! We almost scored.

Odunharry: http://ifirstrow.eu/watch/272325/1/watch-inter-milan-vs-manchester-united.html

watch online

Thanks. Using it to watch second half now.

tess1: The site posted by @Odunharry is working.

ok

I saw up to 37 minutes on MUTV livestream. Then it stopped working. Later I got last one minute via an Arab site.

coogar: same as rooney - when rooney featured & we played teams lower than 12th & 13th, we lost too. rooney featured against westbrom(15th) and lost. rooney featured against stoke(16th) and lost.

Did RVP not feature in these matches too? West Bnrom, Stoke etc? Sunderland at OT?

coogar: RVP was away when rooney lost the game against everton at OT. that was when we sunk from 7th to 9th.

RVP also lost us Newcastle at OT. A weaker team than Everton. RVP loast us West Brom when he came on with his bad luck. We sank deep to 12th.

coogar: what has that gotta do with anything? how many goals did RVP score? how many did welbeck? you are comparing a ferrari to a volkswagen beetle.

Welbeck goals from CF position in the EPL were also on same ratio with RVP. Welbeck was more prolific on his CCC in the EPL fixtures. Welbeck had an average of more than a goal per match from the CF position in the EPL, far beter than RVP's.
This wasn't even the argument. The argument here is clear. RVP had more playing time than Welbeck.

coogar: stop lying.....
you said the newcastle loss plunged us to 9th position whereas it was rooney's useless performance against everton that took us to the 9th position. kagawa crafted a brilliant chance in the first half & rooney kicked the air from 3 yards with an empty net beckoning.



this is another lie.....
rooney didn't feature against norwich. we didn't win 4/4 & we lost against spurs at old trafford. you think some of us don't have a memory bank? the good results you are shouting about were against teams placed in 11th, 17th & 12th positions.

RVP's absence had nothing to do with the good results, the sequence of easy games was responsible. we beat swansea(13th) & norwich(14th) too in that period in rooney's absence so your RVP absence theory is fraudulent & should be discarded.

* Do you realize RVP featured when we played teams lower than Norwich and Swansea and we got humiliated?

* Your claim that RVP was away and Rooney, Welbeck and Val got to us to 7th is a fat lie from the pit of hell. That's what I told you yesterday. So far, the evidences shows that the only time we went to 6th, RVP was away. All the tim$e he played we couldn't get past 7th. He always was giving us poor results whenever he returned from injury.

* RVP had more playing time than Welbeck. So I don't get it when you blame those three guys.

capricornian: Supersport NOT showing it

Sleep things.

Our match is 0:30 both UK and Naija.

I don't know about DSTV these days. Dem no dey try.

coogar: elampiro is a shameless liar.....

•our first loss was against liverpool, rooney didn't play & liverpool were lucky to went on with a win that day. united were 7th on the table after the loss. this is discounting the community shield, swansea win, etc that RVP singlehandedly won by himself.

Coming from the man who only last night said there's no luck in football.

coogar: •by 22nd of september after the manchester derby, united had dropped to 8th. RVP didn't play, rooney led united to the most humiliating loss last season.

•against west brom, rooney led united into another loss. he started, scored a flukey goal via freekick as an equaliser. he completed 90 mins & couldn't find his bearing. RVP came on to salvage the damage rooney had caused but it wasn't to be as we were always behind west brom for the entire game. we sank to the 12th position.[/quote].........................................................

RVP came in early when it was 1-1. We were better off without RVP. He came on at 58th minute to compound our woes.

A fluke goal. Again from the man who claims there is no luck in football. I just saw Gaal hugging Rooney three times when he hit exactly where he wanted the corner kicks to be. Fluke? Gaal didnt even give Rooney chance to think, he shouted and hurried him to hit the target. Rooney is magnificient at set plays. Finito!
...........................................................[/quote]•we drew southampton at OT(rooney was so useless moyes took him off after completing almost 90 mins & recording only 2 shots in the entire game). rooney also played the entire game when we lost to everton at OT. RVP was already injured by this time.......rooney sank united lower on the table to 9th.[/quote].......................................................................
Man United vs Southampton, Rooney left the pitch at 87th minute when score stood at 1-0.

Moyes brought in Samlling to defend the game, but RVP and co who were left on the pitch couldn't hold. Southampton equalized on 89th minute.

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coogar: ***elampiro lied blatantly here that it was the newcastle game that took us to the 9th position when the real fact states it was the everton loss where RVP played no part that took us to 9th.***

Read my comment well. I used the word 'again'. RVP you claimed is a super man had a chance to lift us above Sothampton on 7th December 2013 but he failed.

When RVP left, we were on 9th position. Then immediately we had good results in his absense. We won 4/4 with Rooney, Welbeck, Jones.
* For the fist time RVP was away for a long spell, we went to 6th position and within 3 points of enetering the top four. 8 points from the very top number one.

*When RVP returned from injury in January, together with Mata's addition, we sank further until RVP got injured again. By this time we were so backwards in points that we had no chance of catching up again. RVP left then we had some good fortunes again winning heavily.

* RVP returned with three matches to go and we could only win one of the three matches. We even lost at OLD Trafford.


Our best results came when RVP did not feature, particularly when he was away twice for a long period. Was his addtion to the line up not suppose to better us? We ought to be stronger when RVP joins Rooney, Welbeck and co. I beg jor. I no get time for endless argument.

coogar: elampiro is a shameless liar.....

•our first loss was against liverpool, rooney didn't play & liverpool were lucky to went on with a win that day. united were 7th on the table after the loss. this is discounting the community shield, swansea win, etc that RVP singlehandedly won by himself.

Coming from the man who only last night said there's no luck in football.

coogar: •by 22nd of september after the manchester derby, united had dropped to 8th. RVP didn't play, rooney led united to the most humiliating loss last season.

•against west brom, rooney led united into another loss. he started, scored a flukey goal via freekick as an equaliser. he completed 90 mins & couldn't find his bearing. RVP came on to salvage the damage rooney had caused but it wasn't to be as we were always behind west brom for the entire game. we sank to the 12th position.[/quote]RVP came in early when it was 1-1. We were better off without RVP. He came on at 58th minute to compound our woes.

A fluke goal. Again from the man who claims there is no luck in football. I just saw Gaal hugging Rooney three times when he hit exactly where he wanted the corner kicks to be. Fluke? Gaal didnt even give Rooney chance to think, he shouted and hurried him to hit the target. Rooney is magnificient at set plays. Finito![/quote]•we drew southampton at OT(rooney was so useless moyes took him off after completing almost 90 mins & recording only 2 shots in the entire game). rooney also played the entire game when we lost to everton at OT. RVP was already injured by this time.......rooney sank united lower on the table to 9th.[/quote]Man United vs Southampton, Rooney left the pitch at 87th minute when score stood at 1-0.

Moyes brought in Samlling to defend the game, but RVP and co who were left on the pitch couldn't hold. Southampton equalized on 89th minute.

coogar: ***elampiro lied blatantly here that it was the newcastle game that took us to the 9th position when the real fact states it was the everton loss where RVP played no part that took us to 9th.***

Read my comment well. I used the word 'again'. RVP you claimed is a super man had a chance to lift us above Sothampton on 7th December 2013 but he failed.

When RVP left, we were on 9th position. Then immediately we had good results in his absense. We won 4/4 with Rooney, Welbeck, Jones.
* For the fist time RVP was away for a long spell, we went to 6th position and within 3 points of enetering the top four. 8 points from the very top number one.

*When RVP returned from injury in January, together with Mata's addition, we sank further until RVP got injured again. By this time we were so backwards in points that we had no chance of catching up again. RVP left then we had some good fortunes again winning heavily.

* RVP returned with three matches to go and we could only win one of the three matches. We even lost at OLD Trafford.


Our best results came when RVP did not feature, particularly when he was away twice for a long period. Was his addtion to the line up not suppose to better us? I beg jor. I no get time for endless argument.

* Why are our training videos on the internet? I could see Gaal instructing Rooney where to aim his corner kicks. All the ones I have seen fell on near post.......

Louis van Gaal will stick with 3-5-2 system

Louis van Gaal will continue with his new system for the rest of pre-season to give his Manchester United players as much time as possible to adapt before the new campaign begins.
Van Gaal has deployed a 3-5-2 formation in both games on tour so far, against LA Galaxy and Roma, albeit with almost completely different personnel in each of the four halves.

The manager has pointed out that he has other options but wants to stick with his preferred shape against Inter Milan on Tuesday and Real Madrid on Saturday.

"It’s difficult to change the systems and I had to start this system at once because we don’t have time to change it," van Gaal told media at a press conference in Washington DC.

"We only have three weeks before the season starts, so I have to use all my training sessions to implement this system.

"They know already the other system [4-4-2 or 4-3-3]; they have played that from their youth, so that’s easy. You saw that in the [Netherlands’] game against Mexico – I’m sorry to say that when we were 1-0 down I changed the system to 4-3-3 and then we beat them!"

Van Gaal confirmed Wilfried Zaha, who hasn’t yet seen any action in the States, will play up front in the second half of the International Champions Cup game against Inter.

"When we play this system, he has to play as a striker, otherwise he cannot play," said the boss. "Young is another winger but he can play as wing-back. We shall see."

Left wing-back Luke Shaw trained away from the main group in Monday evening’s open session and van Gaal was asked why.

"Luke Shaw is okay," he confirmed. "I am a coach who looks at what individual players need and I think he needs to be fit, but he is not very fit.

"Therefore he cannot perform what I want, so first he has to be fit and has to train individually.

"I have spoken with him and we have made the programme. He agreed with me. I don’t know [when he will be fit], but I have heard good messages from [fitness coach Tony] Strudwick."

The boss was also asked about Javier Hernandez, who joined up with the squad in Los Angeles and played the final 20 minutes of the 3-2 win over Roma in Denver.

"He came later than the other players because the Dutch national team beat Mexico in the last 16!" joked van Gaal. "That's why he has to train. I believe he is fit.

"When he plays, he will play in the striker's position and there is great competition there with Rooney, Welbeck, van Persie, Keane, Zaha – a lot of players."

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