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coogar: that's the verdict....
except that rooney played against west brom, man city & everton and we lost but let's keep blaming everyone else apart from rooney.

chamotex: So in other words we lost because Rooney didn't play

coogar: then he should get the fück out of the team. he slows united down. you can hardly point out to what rooney brings to the team. the only time he comes alive is during setplays.



how many quality balls came when we lost to everton? was rooney not on the pitch? what did he contribute?



yes, RVP wasn't fit yesterday - that's his first game in about 2-3 weeks. he had a groin injury. rooney had a head injury. does he use his head to run for the ball or he makes 70 yards pass with his head?



during the era of holy trinity, fergie played 4-3-3 of rotating forwards. at city, aguero has negredo or dzeko ahead of him when he drops deep. against spurs & everton, rooney was supposed to provide the attacking focus, he did not so why compare him to suarez & aguero?

dayokanu: ^^ Does anyone have more assists than Ozil in the whole of Europe in the past 5 yrs?

https://images.mirror.co.uk/collections/m5-large/Ozil_Stats_Infograpghic.jpg

coogar: oh please - rooney is now even worse. he plays more long passes than short passes. if he's close to his centre forward like he should be, why is he playing long passes?



he's worse off - rooney never stays where you want him to be. in the absence of RVP this season, we broke so many times with no one in the box to finish off chances.

Oghos1: Lmao. Coogar dissing rooney is a sight to behold. Chai. . I'll never be drawn into that.


He had various bottom levels with madrid. In that final season.

His fans' defence was that he was being deployed as an RAM

superstar1: Fergie still used the same team.that lack quality players to drag the league till the last second 2seasons ago. He won the league with 11points clear and 4games to spare last season. That was his team and he got the best out of them.

Moyes had a whole transfer Window to tinker with the team, but he was still beholding the magnificent old Trafford before the Window closed. If he did not address the issue of the quality we lacked in some departments, it is his problem and not fergie's. So throughout his years of staying in Everton, he never identified United's area of weakness?

If someone is clueless, he is. There is no point arguing it and we are stalked with him till at least end of next season, if things don't improve.

We are not asking for revolution, we want to see evolution.

What we are seeing is dissolution and disillusion.

coogar: goal.com does not provide such information.

capello & fergie have both criticised rooney for his lack of discipline positionally. he made us lose in wembley against barcelona. he lost the game to italy in euro 2012 when he failed to deal with pirlo.

that was why fergie left him out against madrid, fergie had seen enough of rooney pretending to be playing in the hole while going on a walkabout during the game.

coogar: he drops even deeper at england - rooney is a street footballer. he's miseducated, poorly trained or he failed to take instructions cos fergie said he's a slow learner. capello spoke about this as far back as 2009 circa that rooney lacks positional discipline....

“At United, there are two forwards – (Carlos) Tevez and Rooney – and that works. After my first two games I know enough about Rooney.

“He is so versatile and has played left wing, right wing and centre-forward. I have spoken to him three times and told him he is too generous and tries to do too much.

“I want him to be more selfish because when he arrives near goal he is tired and not fresh. It is important for him to be fresh when he is scoring. Rooney’s potential is very big and we will see much more in the future.

“He has to score more goals and stay in front of goal. I have told him this.



he wasn't - he contributed nothing to the champions league & united have won plenty of titles without rooney. ronaldo was the heart between 06/07 to 08/09. berbatov/hernandez in 10/11 & van persie last season.



and you were the one praising everton's ability to retain the ball about 2 hours ago. all of a sudden, you don't need to pass accurately to win games. so what had rooney's lack of accuracy given us this season in the absence of van persie? 9th position!!!!

chamotex: How can elampiro say Rooney does not drop deep for England.
Do you watch these games or you are just deliberately trolling.

superstar1: Arrival of berbatov, RVP, and Kagawa did not result in any unrest and that of Ozil would not have too.

Who is more technically gifted than Ozil in our midfield?

Oghos1: WRONG man WRONG.

Rooney at bottom level can still defend, help with his workrate and threaten with set pieces.

A bottom level ozil. Hmmn. Just trots lazily all over d pitch. Can't mark. Can't tackle. When he receives d ball he is bullied of it lyk a school girl.

U clearly have not seen a bottom level ozil
Fellaini good o. I swear

coogar: the players surrounding rooney is the reason he cannot pass accurately, the reason he cannot control a simple ball, the reason his first touch is that of a räpist? abeg, move over.

the players surrounding rooney? the same squad that won 5 of the last 7 league titles, majority of that squad won the champions league & all of a sudden, they are to be blamed for rooney's lack of technique??

montelik: abeg stop that nonsense. even when we had a strong midfield Rooney would constantly drop deep. it has more to do with his restless nature and desire to touch the ball regularly, else he starts letting his frustration get the better of him.

coogar: a struggling ozil is a better spectacle than a struggling rooney. if we can cope with rooney when he's off-form, i will manage with ozil quite comfortable.


rooney's bottom level is the worst of all professional players in europe. he even fails to make 3 yard passes & his attempt to control a ball takes the ball from brazil to bauchi.

superstar1: Oga, even the whole of Uk knew Fellaini was not the solution to our problem and neither is he a united quality. He was a panic buying, a complete waste of fund.

So how has the sensible signing fair thus far?

Oghos1: A struggling ozil is a horrible sight to behold.
Ask gunners' fans. They've seen glimpses of it already

chamotex: I don't think the players we have in our midfield are on Ozil's level/wavelength just like some didn't have the football brain of Berbatov a times.

Ozil's is not even the issue here...get us 2 solid DM's that would give a decent shift.
They don't even have to be world class...just someone with a decent football brain.

FFS, Barry and. McCarthy bossed midfield today for a long spell , are they world class?

superstar1: Leaving certainty for uncertainty has demonstrated by his end result of no signing, was a case of sheer madness and stupidity combined.

Pls don't call that Afro guy a signing. He is a 27mm white elephant project.

The end justifies the means. His decision of not signing Ozil did not justify anything. Based on that decision, he lacks vision and cannot see beyond his nose.

superstar1: The argument over not signing Ozil is baseless.

Is it not better for us to have quality players and don't know where to.fix them but they are handy in case of emergency than we not even having the luxury of a below quality player.

Ozil would have added value, whether as a CAM or LAM. Moyes was too myopic to see it. Would Martinez have allowed that to pass. Capital N-O.

Oghos1: Ozil was suited to any of d AMs. But we don't make use of inverted wingers. Moyes obviously didn't plan on that.

We needed a cm and a dm(box to box like) and ozil wasn't any of those.
Get over it

chamotex: Of course any team that comes back from a 2 goal deficit should be given credit not just Everton, but labelling it a Barca like performance is astonishing.

So because they were the only team to achieve that feat is your reason? Oh lawd.
We could not find a way to stop them but we scored 4 goals, I'm getting you.

StarBoard: elampiro,
What are we doing with the two we have?

StarBoard: Strootman wasn't in the plan. How can you believe that coming from a team that has a combo of David Moyes and Ed Woodward?
Strootman is integral to Roma's unbeaten run in Series A. Yet you believe a Moyes who cannot be trusted with the simple task of filling you and I with confidence of beating anybody when he ones his first 11 on match day?

StarBoard: My answer lies with Arsenal's current form.
Check out his assist tally and deduce whether or not he is good enough to play for us.
its one thing having gollum on our bench who doesn't realize the value of what he has.
its another thing entirely to say we wouldn't need someone like Ozil when you think how blunt our attack has been.

StarBoard: No.
We chased Fabregas when my grandma told me he would never leave Barcelona.
There was an Ozil out of favour in Madrid and Moyes said he wasn't looking at him even if it appears he was offered to us at a much lower price than Arsenal paid for him
David Moyes was inept in the transfer window. Woodpecker Ed brought his cluelessness to an already dire situation

chamotex: Barca type of football? Why do you always lie with your teeth.
Like I said before, you watched your own football from an angle.
Complacency killed us in that game...leading 4-2, the players felt the job was done. Even Fergie said it after the game.
They conceded 4 goals and you call that a Barca type performance.
I don't even want to get into that debate right now...no point.

StarBoard: The same Ozil who is lighting up the EPL with assists while we struggle to score at old Trafford?
The same Strootman who Roma are resigned to a fate without him, because their coach expects bids from big sides as early as this January?
That City spend money has nothing to do with anything.We don't spend like them, and we need to be meticulous.

StarBoard: Boss, leave oghos o.
like I said earlier, his activity over the summer in the transfer market is an indictment on his ability to lead a side like United.
Now peeps are still making excuses for him despite it being obvious he isn't for to even enter Carrington as a ball boy