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italo: Was Jesus so incompetent that he was always misinterpreted?

Nobody ever misinterpreted Jesus' words to favour gays and atheist. He was always pointing to the Father. But the Pope is pointing to men. Preaching or doing good deeds without God is not Christianity but humanism.

Hope you know the Pope's original words are available? Even when you quote him verbatim, you will realize that he did not do well at all. They are compromising statements. But Jesus' original statements where not compromising, and He (Jesus) never said we should sing good words to unbelievers. Tell them the truth, baptised them in the name of the Father- Son- Holy Spirit, if they reject, then shake off your shoes and leave.

italo: Jesus talked and acted in a far more controversial way even though he knew he would be misinterpreted.

Jesus never encouraged sin.

Secondly, it will be blasphemous to put Jesus in the level of the Pope. The Pope is to obey Jesus and teach Jesus' word, not twisting Jesus' word to confuse lay men.

Anderson has once again vowed to put his past behind him to try and kick start his career at Old Trafford in what he calls a ‘big season’ for himself.

“I have been eating well and sleeping well, while I have also been coming into training on my days off to do more work,” he told Inside United.

“It has really helped me and I feel great. I just want to play as many games as I can. I just hope I can stay clear of injuries.”

“I’ve been training hard on the training pitch and in the gym, and working on my conditioning,” he continued.

“I am pleased with how things are going and, whenever the manager needs me, I will be ready."

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It will be nice should all our guys return to fitness.

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“We’ll play him further back the pitch than up the pitch. We've got enough people who can play the No. 10 role, like Kagawa, Rooney, Danny Welbeck and Adnan Januzaj, who is coming through."

- David Moyes on Marouane Fellaini.

nitlad: What are you people arguing about when you can easily parade this team and cop the 3 points on offer against Palace?

https://www.footballuser.com/formations/2013/09/827409_Manchester_United.jpg

Who are those midfiekders? Who they are not all shadow markers? There should be a right mix.

Screwface: When Moyes sees comments like this, he'l forever be tempted to keep playing that clown. When talking about Young next time, use, "Young was one of the highest".
Out with medicore players abeg.

I don't like his game these days, but that stat raised him high. But I so much liked him when he was in Villa.

@Fabville, lets carry that argument over. We can start from there next time. Just remind me.

I want to concentrate my energy on some other things for now.

SailorXY: My own be say I no wan see Young anywhere near Man Utd first team again

Young is one of the highest goal assister in the EPL. But I don't know what is wrong now.

naijadeyhia: Marriage is also a choice and a calling! nobody is disputing the fact that some may not marry but the choice to get married or not is their personal choice and not based on a law attached to a choice. What the catholic papacy is using is a technicality and a smart one at that but the truth remains that whatever we choose to do for God remains a choice and not a coercion

You know the consequence before you join the seminary. And you have 9 years of seminary life to decide before you are ordained a priest. It's still a choice.

Fletcher has returned to training with the senior team.

January target. United aims at Alex Song. If this should happen, I will be glad.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/429179/Manchester-United-keen-to-bring-back-ex-Arsenal-midfielder-Alex-Song-to-England

coogar: elampiro's psychosis reared it's hydra-head again.



take your time to watch it - you will not find hargo clipping messi's foot or your claims that fergie deliberately played hargo on the left to marshal messi. barca's strength is always in the midfield. hargo didn't play as a midfielder on that night which then means carrick & scholes were the water-carriers that got us a clean sheet in both legs.



if you had just admitted you erred, there wouldn't have been any need for the haymakers & upper-cuts. however, you kept wriggling and playing on our intelligence - that is a cardinal sin. i have made several errors here and afrodoc has consistently corrected me but guess what? i conceded my errors. i think you should borrow a leaf from me.

Time to keep shut and keep this for another day. Is it called adjournment or postponement or rescheduling? But when we come back it should be with evidence- stating minute of the match when certain actions took place.

[quote author=m.k.o2005]You do not understand what Christ meant when he said that to his disciples.They got afraid when he explained that on no account should we divorce our partners and they said if marriage is for better for worse then it's better not to even get married.But Christ said the saying would not be accepted by all but if you can accept it,please do ! He concluded by saying some came to earth not to feel anything for marriage,some others decided just not to get married and the last set were 'forced' by others into bein eunuchs ! They did all these for the sake of the kingdom and who ever can accept this ought to do so !
From the above,it is very clear that Christ never intend to force or want's any other to force anyone one into bein any of the three kinds of Eunuchs ! He only explained that once you are married,remain married,if you want to be an eunuch for the sake of the kingdom,no wahala still but it is not compulsory to be single all through for you to serve as a pastor,prophet,teacher or what have you. If Christ wanted us to be eunuchs for us to function as bishops or pastors or prophet,he would hav chosen un-married disciples all through or instructed them not to get married after his depature but he didn't do that and the bible recorded that most if not all the disciples and apostles were married.-
I Corinthians 9:5 ''Don't we have the right to bring a Christian wife with us as the other apostles and the Lord's brothers do, and as Peter does?''

God help us[/quote]The Catholic church is not forcing anybody. The priesthood is a choice and a calling.

nora544: That has nothing to do with this, that is about if every man should marry sorry i know my bible

It is part of it. Jesus said some will not marry because of the kingdom.

coogar: you cannot be through until you confess you are a pathological liar. did hargreaves clip messi's left foot? if true, show us one article or a video clip that documented this incident. i have read the whole real-time incidents of that game - there was no report that hargo clipped messi's left foot.


it makes me wonder - did you really see this incident on your TV or your psychosis was acting up? let me ask this question before you hit the sack - what position did keane play in camp nou?

Yes, Hargreaves used a farm (bush)trap. Have you ever been to the farm? You know that trap with zigzag nails, that was what Hargreaves used on Messi.

Don't worry, I will resume the topic on Sunday evening if time permits. I will look for video clips or whatever. I used to have the CD of that match but I did not burn it to retain a soft copy. Let's let sleeping dogs lie. May be we will get better evidence to argue with later. DSTV usually repeat those matches. I am going to rewatch the matches with special emphasis on the issues we have raised here. We shall come another day. (Man United vs Barca, Juve vs Man United, Man United vs Bayern, Man United vs Chelsea were CDs I kept like treasure and watched again and again but friends took them from me).


Haven said the above, you need to repent of your insults. They don't help the debate. Provocation leads to bringing up unnecessary points and derailment to the debate.

[quote author=dademola]hw many games did oshea play in both d UCL n d EPL dt season?[/quote

When the great men are around even the big men become small and unseen.

Oshea was pushed to the background, but when Hargreaves left, Oshea resurfaced and played in subsequent seasons UCL knockout.


My last response to you on the topic. Thanks for your matured posts.

David Moyes held his Friday Media Press Conference and along with him was new signing Marouane Fellaini. Here are the main quotes from the meeting.

DAVID #MOYES:
"Very pleased. Not many people knew about him when I signed him for Everton, We chose to do Fellaini right at the end as we wanted to sign Baines. It was a last minute decision to split the deal.

"He's experienced in Premier League and hope he can improve. We wanted Baines that's why it took so long. Each time I watch Belgium Marouane is the best player. He has presence. Overall, he's maturing, he's scored a few goals and it's important to add to the team. I'm very happy the window is over. Happy with the business done. It's been interesting watch him train this week.

"He's not out of place though. We will get him involved quite quickly. His character has improved. He's very focused, does his work and trains hard. He was desperate to join Manchester United.

"We've got a busy schedule and I wanted to play a different way in different games. Marouane Fellaini helps me to do that. Fellaini's presence is very noticeable for many reasons, including his size. But you can't overlook his technical ability"

MAROUANE #FELLAINI:
"Sometimes I thought there was no chance [of the transfer happening] but in the end I was so happy to join United. In the end I was so happy. The chairman accepted. It is the biggest club in the world. My objective is to win trophies In the end I joined and it's a big dream. I know I need to work hard for my place and to show. Everton was a great club for me and I had good moments but it's time for me to leave. Thank you Everton.

"The players here have been fine and I've had no problem with the intensity of training. (on the fee) It's not my problem. I will work hard, hard to be a legend at Man United. I need to work hard for my place - there are a lot of good players here. I need to show my ability. I'll keep focused.

"I can play defensive or attacking - whatever helps the team. The most important thing is to win the game."

@ Coogar, I said I am through.

I am done with argument. For our midfield to compete with the best of Europe or even better them, we need someone like Hargreaves. SAF knew what he was doing when he always added a third midfielder to Scholes and Carrick in big games but he didn't bother for same (third midfielder) when he played Hargreaves in the midfield in big games. On this note, I welcome Fellaini who is also a bit of ball winner, although not in the same capacity and same speed as Hargreaves.

Those who want to discuss match day can continue. I don leave the matter. If losers like they sould come and insult me when I have gone to bed. That na small pikin/shildren sense.

coogar: glad you can see through the millipede.....elampiro must be lying for a profession. i mean, he saw hargo clipping messi's foot in camp nou on his 4-legged black & white TV.

Exactly, at least I am reporting what I saw. But you used you plasma hd TV and you could see nothing, your were overtaken by nervousness. Your assumption till date was that Messi, Iniester and Eto all operated via Evra's wing.

dademola: do u actually read these things b4 u post dem?

So what's is wrong?

Was Hargreaves not selected ahead of Oshea to clip Barca? A midfielder picked ahead a defender for a right back role.

coogar: don't even push your luck on that. i have men of your age working 9-5 for me.



so how do you explain oshea's absence against lyon & roma? are these teams barcelona? stüpidity is the only reason anyone would think a right back won a midfield battle for man utd.



thunder would strike if you get provoked, i would transform your weekend into a PG-version of valentine's day massacre.
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a dullard & a liar combined together. you saw hargreaves on a doctor's table for 3 months consecutively in 2007/8 season. he then saw keane in camp nou against bayern in 1999. he saw barthez against madrid in 2000. elampiro also saw redondo & fat ronaldo playing together at old trafford in year 2000. the one that broke the camel's back was watching hargreaves "clipping" messi's foot.

your diagnosis would be psychosis.

I have ended this episode of argument with you.

But on the age matter. So if you are rich you won't give elders respect?

afrodoc: olodo dont u know that we played bayern munich 3 times that season?
e be like say u b otondo fan, u know NOTHING about your club and now u make things up

We were talking about final and crucial stage you dey talk of medemede. SAF gambles in group stage.

I beg my blood dey hot from too much work.

Judas2013: Never say never

I beg, never.

Fabville: These are the reasons why coogar calls you a liar.

I can only see three 90 minutes from September to November ending. Or am I missing something?

Sunderland, Arsenal and Bolton.

afrodoc: elampiro see ursef?

u too bad,u fit try sell person black and call am white!
meanwhile where are the 3 months that hargreaves missed? we are waiting

Wait o, is this the same Afrodoc who said Scholes played against Bayern and Butt was benched. Kettle calling pot black.

At least I was humble enough to admit my error, whereas you are still denge posing in yours.

Fabville: He played eight full time (90mins) games between August 19th, 2007 and December 29th, 2007. The only UCL game was against Sporting on 27th November, 2007.

My question to you elampiro is:

1. How come a player who was not fit could have played full time in eight games?
2. How did you arrive at your two to three full games from 1st September to almost November ending?
3. How do you determine fitness when record shows that he actually played nine hundred and fifty four minutes (954mins) in all competition?
4. Why do you keep on distorting facts?

I am done with this because it doesn't worth it at all when you keep on twisting and distorting facts.

1. How many League, UCL matches are between August and December? Probably 26 or more.

If he were fit he would have at least played 24. If any United fan doesn't know Hargreaves wasn't fit that period and even beyond, that fan should redcarded to join Okomu oil fan club. Don't you see he was managed to ruch to fitness for the Arsenal and Liverpool games? Did you not know Fletcher played some games last year just by manage? Does it mean he was fit? Was Michael Owen ever fit for us despite playing a few games? What about Vidic who played in alternative matches last season?

2. Your chat has the number of 90 minutes played in that period.

3. See my first response above.

4. What do you mean by distorting fact? You refused to accept the truth. Owen was not fit and everyone knew it, perhaps except you and your allies.

coogar: a well-written laplace transform would look bullshyte to a dullard. elampiro, you are a football novice. you're a football illiterate & it's about time you accept you are too intellectually shallow to discuss the weather, let alone understand the dynamics of football tactics.

I refused to be provoked. But go and put your pieces in your video game and PE13 which only what you know about. As for real soccer you are so limited.

coogar: elampiro knows nothing about football.
i can defend this statement in any court of law or before any panel of judges. he keeps screaming o'shea should have played as a RB against barcelona when brown replaced vidic to partner rio @ camp nou.

how many CL knock-out games did oshea start that season? ZERO!!! he was a substitute even against roma(2nd leg) - a dead rubber game. he only came on in the first leg when vidic went injured. o'shea sat on the bench in both legs against lyon & elampiro thought in his fickle-mind that SAF would trust o'shea against the almighty barcelona?

someone find me a brush to dust the fluff in elampiro's brain cavity.




elampiro would be 49 next month, he's too old to be a trequartista. it's the equivalent of putting a pregnant cow behind me to supply the killer pass that would cop me goals.

SAF as the goalie?
you can never trust a chelsea fan to wish united victory. mourinho goes to goodison - i can see him losing tomorrow to gibson's 40-yard shot. too bad, lukaku can't feature against his parent club!

49

If I were 49 I would expect you to address me as 'sir'.

Oshea did not play UCL knockout games because Hargreaves could kill Barca better. Period. Dont forget Oshea played in the knockout in subsequent years.

[quote author=nitlad]What are you people arguing about when you can easily parade this team and cop the 3 points on offer against Palace?

https://www.footballuser.com/formations/2013/09/827409_Manchester_United.jpg

Elampiro to play his favoured 'Rooney Role' [/quote

I can't play with Coogar, I doubt if he ever played a serious ball (match). That's why he seems not to how players games are interwoven and interrelated in the field of play. Put Coogar as the assistant coach.

Kudos, you got my favourite position. I can still play at least two other positions effectively well, just like my friend Rooney.

dademola: sneijder to replace hargo?? Wen it was all over d news utd were looking for a MFder to replace d ageing paul scholes?? Hw can sneijder, who was knwn for his creativity, be d direct replacement for a defensive midfielda?? And u dey argue wit afrodoc say ur soccer analytical nous doesnt need a reconfig?? Smh

So why did the age of Scholes not conspicuous when Hargreaves was around? Mind you we had Anderson, Fletcher, Park, Carrick in addition to Scholes when Hargreaves left. But as soon as he left, nyash opened.

dademola: ogaa, no change d mata!! Where is d 3mnths absence u've been shouting?

No change of matter. From September to November ending the guy was only given three full games due to injury. This was the correct response to you guys allegation that he was fit. He wasn't fit, he was playing through pains, but some of you guys said he was given run of games because he just arrived.

dademola: stop all these riddiculous things u r sayn, just to win an arguement. D fact remains dt, someone was injured, and hargo had to play. U can only hav a valid point, assuming everyone was fit and fergie maybe decided to drop someone. Stop giving cheap excuses just to win an arguement

My argument is valid. Oshea was the traditional replacement for Brown before Hargreaves came. Don't you know the meaning of picking a midfielder player ahead of a natural defender in a right back position? That task was high and only a killer and versatile player like Hargreaves could have delivered us in those matches.

coogar: you disgrace yourself with this kinda reasoning. have barcelona ever met chelsea in a final? where the tactical approach of a 2-legged tie would not work? when we played barca in 2008, we won because we parked the bus - the same approach chelsea have been using against them. in a final match, that approach cannot suffice cos you have to score goals unlike a 2-legged tie where away goal rule can also come into play.



he couldn't risk using both keane & scholes from the start. we would have had to play with 10 or perhaps 9 men in turin. even with the whole protection, scholes still got a card in the little time he was on the pitch - he would surely have copped a red card if he finished the whole 90.



this is just equally daft too....
in a classic 4-4-2, the defensive approach is to form 2 banks of four and deny the space between the defence & the midfield. every united winger knows he has a lot of defensive duties to do - however, this nullifies your point as hargo didn't play as a DM in moscow.



you are a disgrace to all man utd fans....
liar liar, pants of fire. hargreaves was clipping messi as a right back in 2008? what a big liar you have chosen to be?? you have been exposed as the biggest liar this forum has ever produced. under rijkaard, messi was a right forward - it was guardiola that pushed messi to the centre in 08/09.



why would you look at it when white-lying is your noble profession? kagawa wins tackles, he's more mobile and can chase opponents to recover possession. that's who you want to compare to sneijder? go back to facebook forum where laboratory rëtards discuss football.

All bushit. Excuse! Excuse!! Excuse!!! I won't do round this unnecessarily circle.