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David Moyes post match interview:
"We didn't play well enough to win the game. Manchester City played well and deserved the victory.

"If you lose four you are not expecting to win too many. We conceded poor goals. We needed to get closer in the second but they get away and score more goals.

"We never got a grip of the game and we could never really stop them. We hope to stem that tide in the second half. We got better as the game went on but it was too late.

"I thought Wayne Rooney's performance was outstanding. He didn't' deserve to be on the losing side today. He was first class.

"The start to the season could be a lot better. We did say it could be difficult start. I wasn't convinced when the balls came out of the Premier League bag and I'm still not convinced."

David Moyes, speaking to Sky Sports:
"He had a groin strain during the week. I thought he might have been ok today, but not quite. We gave it every chance up until this morning. It is nothing serious. He could have a chance for Wednesday against Liverpool in the League Cup."

I think this was the actual blow. Last minute realisation that RVP would not be playing.

Emperoh: Anybody who blames Rooney in this game watched it upside down!!
Dude was our best player by miles

If other players had half as much energy and industry as he had, we wouldn't lose this game!
City came at us with aggression and hazzle and we chickened out. Yet someone is blaming Rooney!!!


Where was Valencia when Kolarov breezed past him to score goal 1?
Where was Fellaini when he lost his marker, Toure for goal no 2?
Where was Fellaini again for goal no 3? Ball watching cos Aguero breezed past him and tapped in!
Where was Fellaini again for goal no 4? Mscheww!!!

Nonsense!!! We deserved what we got! Maybe it's time to question the quality of some of the average players we got!

My blame for goal number 2 or 3(not too sure which of them) goes to Ferdinand.

So many posts, I almost got tired of reading.

1. It's a learning curve for the coach. He should always play three central midfied in big games.

2. Man United resorted to playing defence too deep early in the game and it cost us, it also led to individual errors from our back.

3. The absence of RVP affected our game today because it allowed City defence to have less work to do.

4. Rooney and Welbeck partnered for the first time in a long while and it didn't work well until United decided to play three in the midfield. Welbeck was highly clueless when he had to stay up nd Rooney deep. With more games they can both come up with something.

5. Fellaini needs some speed. Although he is still trying to settle.

6. The overall performance was poor with Young, Welbeck, Valencia and Smalling being the worst.

7. Rooney could not star but he was still everywhere trying to help in the attacking build up.

8. Why do we always give city too much respect? We started nervously and they capitalized on that.

9. We need both RVP and Rooney for our big games.

italo: What are you (Child of God) to do about this man you see as an agent of satan?

From Jesus' chosen twelve, one betrayed him.

One who is suppose to uphold the gospel is twisting it.

italo: Since you believe that he is satan's agent, that should settle it.

For you, it doesnt matter if Pope Francis sheds his blood for Christ. Infact, you would say he shed it for satan.

Too many countless unguided statements/deliberate errors.

What blood has he shed? Instead he is turning the church upside down.

italo: You believe Pope Francis is an agent of satan.

You have made statements alluding to that before.

Nothing he says or does can please you.

Even if he said all atheists are hell-bound, you will say that isnt Christ's message.

You're just a Pope Francis hater. And "hate" and "reason" cannot work together.

What do you want me to reason from the bold part of his statements? See below.

The Pope is trying to close the mouth of priests.

Ubenedictus: I mention to Pope Francis that there are Christians who live in situations that are irregular for the church or in complex situations that represent open wounds. I mention the divorced and remarried, same-sex couples and other difficult situations. What kind of pastoral work can we do in these cases? What kinds of tools can we use?

“We need to proclaim the Gospel on every street corner,” the pope says, “preaching the good news of the kingdom and healing, even with our preaching, every kind of disease and wound. In Buenos Aires I used to receive letters from homosexual persons who are ‘socially wounded’ because they tell me that they feel like the church has always condemned them. But the church does not want to do this. During the return flight from Rio de Janeiro I said that if a homosexual person is of good will and is in search of God, I am no one to judge. By saying this, I said what the catechism says. Religion has the right to express its opinion in the service of the people, but God in creation has set us free: it is not possible to interfere spiritually in the life of a person.

“A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality. I replied with another question: ‘Tell me: when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?’ We must always consider the person. Here we enter into the mystery of the human being. In life, God accompanies persons, and we must accompany them, starting from their situation. It is necessary to accompany them with mercy. When that happens, the Holy Spirit inspires the priest to say the right thing.

“This is also the great benefit of confession as a sacrament: evaluating case by case and discerning what is the best thing to do for a person who seeks God and grace. The confessional is not a torture chamber, but the place in which the Lord’s mercy motivates us to do better. I also consider the situation of a woman with a failed marriage in her past and who also had an abortion. Then this woman remarries, and she is now happy and has five children. That abortion in her past weighs heavily on her conscience and she sincerely regrets it. She would like to move forward in her Christian life. What is the confessor to do?

“We cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. This is not possible. I have not spoken much about these things, and I was reprimanded for that. But when we speak about these issues, we have to talk about them in a context. The teaching of the church, for that matter, is clear and I am a son of the church, but it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time.

“The dogmatic and moral teachings of the church are not all equivalent. The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently. Proclamation in a missionary style focuses on the essentials, on the necessary things: this is also what fascinates and attracts more, what makes the heart burn, as it did for the disciples at Emmaus. We have to find a new balance; otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards, losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel. The proposal of the Gospel must be more simple, profound, radiant. It is from this proposition that the moral consequences then flow.

“I say this also thinking about the preaching and content of our preaching. A beautiful homily, a genuine sermon must begin with the first proclamation, with the proclamation of salvation. There is nothing more solid, deep and sure than this proclamation. Then you have to do catechesis. Then you can draw even a moral consequence. But the proclamation of the saving love of God comes before moral and religious imperatives. Today sometimes it seems that the opposite order is prevailing. The homily is the touchstone to measure the pastor’s proximity and ability to meet his people, because those who preach must recognize the heart of their community and must be able to see where the desire for God is lively and ardent. The message of the Gospel, therefore, is not to be reduced to some aspects that, although relevant, on their own do not show the heart of the message of Jesus Christ.”

SailorXY: Mtcheew!
So does this mean Welbeck is ahead of Chicharito in pecking order & Young is ahead of Nani? This is fuqqin silly of Moyes I swear

Welbeck is more complete and powerful. But since RVP was missing, we should have used Chicha to poach.

This is a big game and our attacking line up is weakened.

lineup: De Gea, Smalling, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Young, Carrick, Fellaini, Valencia, Welbeck, Rooney. Subs: Amos, Evans, Hernandez, Nani, Cleverley, Kagawa, Buttner.

italo: You believe Pope Francis is an agent of satan, dont you?

Thank you. May God reward you too for the role you are playing in his Church.

I beg don't let me go into argument.

The Pope is not teaching like an angel of the Church. Period.

I cannot support someone who is clearly trying to modify fundamental catholic (christian) beliefs to suit circular teachings. The Pope should stand firm and condemn evils acts for what they are.

God won't be angry with anyone who tries to scrutinize what the church leaders are teaching whether they comply with the gospel. If you had read widely since this new controversial interview was published, you will know that, even some bishops are beginning to get worried.

Do you know what it means for the Pope to say the Catholic church teaches disjointed doctrines? That alone has a far reaching implication.

italo: Dear one,

I have understood your position a long time ago. You believe Pope Francis is an agent of satan. Isnt that the summary of this and all your other epistles?

Na you know jor. I like you for your passion in defending the Catholic faith. God will reward you for that.

But, sincerely, the Catholic church has never taught disjointed doctrines as being propagated by the Pope, neither has the church focused solely on morals (teaching against abortion, homosexuality and contraceptives). I see it as laying foundation for some major changes that might be coming.

Given the above, you have to be on your guide so that you don't end up defending any anti-gospel teachings that may crop up in the future.

God bless.

italo: Yes. Yes... instead of reading and swallowing the distorted version from the western media, as you normally do.

I have read it now. The Pope was asked a simple question whether he supports homosexuality. Instead of aswering it directly, he did a maradonna. Also what does the Pope mean by the below statement? How can he say the church has disjointed doctrines? Everything the media said are inside this long article.

Has the church ever restricted her teachings to only abortion, gay and contraceptives? What! He is dancing to the circular world while rubbishing the church?
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Pope Francis:
“We cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. This is not possible. I have not spoken much about these things, and I was reprimanded for that. But when we speak about these issues, we have to talk about them in a context. The teaching of the church, for that matter, is clear and I am a son of the church, but it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time.

“The dogmatic and moral teachings of the church are not all equivalent. The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently.''

Hmmm

One has to find time to read this.

So this stuff has travelled from Lagos to Benin. It's Lagos bus drivers that used to strip to avoid arrest.

Mikel has scored ooooooooo

You'll regret it: Fellaini tells Ronaldo he should have joined him at Old Trafford

Marouane Felllaini has thanked his new team-mates for ensuring a smooth transition from Everton to Manchester United and told Cristiano Ronaldo he may regret passing up the chance to join him at Old Trafford.

As manager David Moyes’ only significant pre-deadline signing, Fellaini was under greater scrutiny than even from United followers who were hoping to see their midfield bolstered by Ronaldo and Barcelona’s Cesc Fabregas.

Former United favourite Ronaldo finally dashed any prospect of a reunion by signing a new long-term contract at Real Madrid, and describing Old Trafford as part of his past, while Fabregas made it clear he wanted to stay at the Nou Camp.

Undeterred, Fellaini filled the gap in midfield and responded to a series of pep talks from senior players, most notably Rio Ferdinand, to make an early favourable impression on the Old Trafford crowd.

‘It is different here, compared to Everton, and everything is in place to help me improve as a player,’ he said.
‘I am surrounded by better players, with more quality and better technique, and they have also demonstrated how much they care about me settling in quickly.


Impressive: Fellaini excelled on his first start for the club against Bayer Leverkusen

‘They have gone to the trouble of spending time with me and offering advice, talking through any questions I wanted answering.

'The experienced players have been great with me, but others have played a part as well.

'They all have, and I appreciate it. It has helped me feel at home.

‘If Ronaldo has made it clear he won’t be coming here, that’s just too bad for him!

'I feel great at this club, and when I see supporters turning up for games wearing a (Fellaini) wig, it makes me feel even better.


'It is funny to see that, but very pleasing as well. It makes me want to do all I can for them on the pitch, and that’s what I will do.’


.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2427619/Manchester-derby-Marouane-Fellaini-told-Cristiano-Ronaldo-hell-regret-joining-Manchester-United.html

Mr 25 the muscle baller.

David Moyes has a great record against City having won 10 of his previous 14 games against them ! Fingers crossed and let's hope in a win against City on Sunday.

[quote author=Mr_TA]I would definitely accept a 1-1 draw but I have a fear of Aguero more than any other player in the league and I feel with Rio and Vidic playing so many games in a row, we could be in trouble.[/quote]The problem is with Rio.

Vidic might be lacking speed but he is hard to be beaten. But we have Jonny Evans.

If only Jones and Smalling had the experience.

I so much like Fellaini's stat. He confronts so much. He tackles everywhere on the pitch and not necessary waiting around the box before making a tackle. When a player tackles high on the pitch, he is more likely to be dribbled but he would have caused an obstruction to the opponent's attacking build up which helps his team mates to clean up easily.

Fellaini is a good complement to Carrick. One is 'dirty', the other cleans up. One is a scorer, the other is a passer.


Smalling also makes tackles high on the pitch, he doesn't keep it waiting till the box area like Evra.

Lovely!

Courtesy: Man United official twitter and FB...

Cristalz: I just hope Rooney shines even brighter against City on Sunday. Won't be an easy derby.

We need the best of Rooney to become a feared team again. He loves the big matches and he will be helping the team to a great fight against City.

Before the Leverkusen game he was so enthusiastic in his writings on his facebook wall. It was like he knew he was going to star.

How people here fail to see his work rate is what baffles me. But when you see the accolades he gets from coaches and players all over European football, even from rivals, you just know you are right in your opinion of him that he is fantastic. He is a complete player. Such are rare.

Cristalz: Thank you, elampiro, debozzie, perhaps afrodoc, and others that are still thinking fairly and correctly.

A classy striker that performed beautifully on a UCL night makes one mistake and it is magnified unnecessarily like it's his regular routine when every football fan knows it is not.
The dude contributed greatly to the team's win on the night.

I'm just appalled at the way bias leads so-called objective "analysts" to throw common sense and truth out the window in order to call Rooney baseless names, especially after all his hard work.

Bleacher report indeed. . .does the person that typed that up have 3 heads or a never-observed-before special kinda brain that his words should be embraced as gospel?? Smh.
Worse mistakes made by others were conveniently swept under the rug. . .you guys should at least have the decency to pretend you're not on a Rooney witch-hunt, abi wizard-hunt.

You have a balanced analytical sense.

Plenty of love.

Rooney, thanks for shutting the haters. I need not argue anymore.

coogar: henry winter ke? elampiro thinks he's andy gray. he claimed he once played for amodu shuaibu @ BBC lions.

Go and cry. Whether you believe or not is your headache.

I played football to a level you can only dream of. Karimu Shaibu is just one of the NPL I played with. Alex Jebba, FA cup winner was one too.

Let me tell you a new one: Amodu Shuaibu and coach Sebatine Broadricks were my friends when I was permanently based in Benin. I still have coach Broadricks number on my phone now, but I lost Amodu's own when my old phone developed a fault. I will still take it whenever I run into him again.

coogar: https://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif

Mourinho never kicked a ball- Coogar.

30% of Wayne Rooney's goals are penalties- Coogar.

StarBoard: Horse dung doesn't even know what a ribbing is.
You need to chill jare.
You seem to take your copy-and-paste analysis too seriously, despite making some alarmingly stu.pid remarks over here.

I pity you because you are the one who take things too far. You could not differentiate a joke from a serious talk.

Who cares if you waste mbs? Any on send you? We all use mbs.

Pope Bluntly Faults Church’s Focus on Gays and Abortion.

By LAURIE GOODSTEIN
Published: September 19, 2013 221 Comments

Pope Francis, in the first extensive interview of his six-month-old papacy, said that the Roman Catholic church had grown “obsessed” with preaching about abortion, gay marriage and contraception, and that he has chosen not to speak of those issues despite recriminations from some critics.

An Interview with Pope Francis
Excerpts from his most extensive and revealing interview since he was elected in March.

In remarkably blunt language, Francis sought to set a new tone for the church, saying it should be a “home for all” and not a “small chapel” focused on doctrine, orthodoxy and a limited agenda of moral teachings.

“It is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time,” the pope told the Rev. Antonio Spadaro, a fellow Jesuit and editor in chief of La Civiltà Cattolica, the Italian Jesuit journal whose content is routinely approved by the Vatican. “The dogmatic and moral teachings of the church are not all equivalent. The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently.

“We have to find a new balance,” the pope continued, “otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards, losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel.”

The interview was conducted in Italian during three meetings in August in the pope’s spartan quarters in Casa Santa Marta, the Vatican guesthouse, and translated into English by a team of translators. Francis has chosen to live at Casa Santa Marta rather than in what he said were more isolated quarters at the Apostolic Palace, home to many of his predecessors.

The interview was released simultaneously on Thursday morning by 16 Jesuit journals around the world, and includes the pope’s lengthy reflections on his identity as a Jesuit. Pope Francis personally reviewed the transcript in Italian, said the Rev. James Martin, an editor-at-large of America, the Jesuit magazine in New York. America and La Civiltà Cattolica together had asked Francis to grant the interview, which America is publishing in its magazine and as an e-book.

“Some of the things in it really surprised me,” Father Martin said. “He seems even more of a free-thinker than I thought — creative, experimental, willing to live on the margins, push boundaries back a little bit.”

The new pope’s words are likely to have repercussions in a church whose bishops and priests in many countries, including the United States, often appeared to make combating abortion, gay marriage and contraception their top public policy priorities. These teachings are “clear” to him as “a son of the church,” he said, but they have to be taught in a larger context. “The proclamation of the saving love of God comes before moral and religious imperatives.”

From the outset of his papacy in March, Francis has chosen to use the global spotlight to focus instead on the church’s mandate to serve the poor and marginalized. He has washed the feet of juvenile prisoners, visited a center for refugees and hugged disabled pilgrims at his audiences.

His pastoral presence and humble gestures have made him wildly popular, according to recent surveys. But there has been a low rumble of discontent from some Catholic advocacy groups, and even from some bishops, who have taken note of his silence on abortion and gay marriage. Earlier this month, Bishop Thomas Tobin of Providence, R.I., told his diocesan newspaper that he was “a little bit disappointed in Pope Francis” because he had not spoken about abortion. “Many people have noticed that,” the bishop was quoted as saying.

The interview is the first time Francis has explained the reasoning behind both his actions and omissions. He also expanded on the comments he made about homosexuality in July, on an airplane returning to Rome from Rio de Janeiro, where he had celebrated World Youth Day. In a remark then that produced headlines worldwide, the new pope said, “Who am I to judge?” At the time, some questioned whether he was referring only to gays in the priesthood, but in this interview he made clear that he had been speaking of gays and lesbians in general.

“A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality,” he told Father Spadaro. “I replied with another question: ‘Tell me: when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?’ We must always consider the person.”

The interview also serves to present the pope as a human being, who loves Mozart and Dostoevsky and his grandmother, and whose favorite film is Fellini’s “La Strada.”

The 12,000-word interview ranges widely, and may confirm what many Catholics already suspected: that the chameleon-like Francis bears little resemblance to those on the church’s theological or political right wing. He said some people had assumed he was an “ultraconservative” because of his reputation when he served as the superior of his Jesuit province in Argentina. He pointed out that he was made superior at the “crazy” young age of 36, and that his leadership style was too authoritarian.

“But I have never been a right-winger,” he said. “It was my authoritarian way of making decisions that created problems.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/world/europe/pope-bluntly-faults-churchs-focus-on-gays-and-abortion.html?hp&_r=1&

@Coogar, are you sure you are not the publisher of bleacherreport? They have not put the summer saga behind them and they are just over reacting. No one is clapping for Rooney for not making the simple pass. However they were wrong to suggest that Rooney is a selfish player who puts his interest first. The was so bad a report. They were also wrong to have believed Rooney doesn't want to play from the left side of the field or some other positions in the forward line.

Bleachers should wake up, the summer is over.

JayKayMaybachz: Here are the teams with the
percentage of most aerial duels Win
after the first Champions League
game.
1. Manchester United - 77.1%
2. FC Basel - 66.7%
3. Bayern Munich - 61.1%
4. Zenit St Petersburg - 61.1%
5. Manchester City - 60.9%
Can we call it Fellaini effect ?

Smalling, Fellaini and Vidic. Then overall we can give it to Moyes for his intense training style. Our boys are fitter and cover so much space on the field. The km covered was one of the highest.

Carrick said he is happy because instead of having midfield who do same thing on the pitch, the team now has Fellaini who does things differently.

SailorXY: I can't wait to see a front inter-changing four of
Nani-----Rooney-----Kagawa
-------van Persie--------
interesting times ahead

With that Valencia's performance, I don't see Nani becoming a regular. Valencia might end up having more games than other wingers. He knows how to punish you when you play your defence high. Now he has added a new dimension by crossing the ball behind his markers coupled with his new find sense of coming into the middle.

I am just watching how it is going to be. I pray they all stay fit and injury free.