₦airaland Forum

MaxInDHouse:
Nigerians are people under one government and the policy is what's binding on all Nigerians.
Watchtower is an organization under one line of thought and the doctrine is what keeps all members together.
So if you're not in Nigeria but doubting what you heard about Nigeria, then the best is to come to Nigeria and find out if what you heard is true. Likewise if you heard anything about JWs and you're in doubt the best thing is to locate their gathering and ask.
If you go and ask a DISFELLOWSHIPED member you can't get the facts, it's like asking a runaway Nigerian what is obtainable in the country he's no longer living!

MaxInDHouse:
The problem here is misunderstanding!

None of Adam's descendants can become perfect until God's Kingdom comes but as we live each day we want to continue working out our salvation {Philippians 2:12} so we shouldn't expect our fellow believers to be perfect but continue helping those who are spiritually weak among us! James 5:14-15

MaxInDHouse:
That's what the undeserved kindness (grace) of God means otherwise no human is qualified before God! Psalms 14:3; Isaiah 64:6 compare to Luke 18:19

MaxInDHouse:
So whenever you read about "church of the Saints" in the scriptures it doesn't mean church of perfect humans o rather it means the congregation of those who are willing to subject themselves to God's will but time and time again they do fall short due to their imperfect condition {Proverbs 24:16}

MaxInDHouse:
God only overlook their weaknesses because of the blood of Jesus Christ {Romans 7:15-25} and they are sober when they fall they don't rejoice over unrighteousness! 1Corinthians 13:6

MaxInDHouse:
I've told you several times that you and i aren't worshiping the same God so keep your beliefs while i also keep mine!

MaxInDHouse:
He gave you the best confirmation ever!

If anyone outside Nigeria asked a Nigerian "are you enjoying the present government?"
A YES/NO is not as good as "go to Nigeria and ask Nigerians"

MaxInDHouse:
How else do you want someone to confirm a fact?

Cornelboy said "you can go to any of their Kingdom Halls to ask if this is true"
How else do you think you can confirm this?

cornelboy:
You can go to any of the kingdom halls and ask.

MaxInDHouse:
That's what we preach and teach throughout the world so only those that believe in what we preach and teach are worshipers of our God. That's why we are always helping anyone who slumbers, sleeps or falls spiritually in our midst but all those who refuses to be helped are taken as unrepentant sinners so we DISFELLOWSHIP them. But as long as anyone admits his error and willing to take in counsel as help they can continue in our midst worshiping their dirty robes in the blood of the lamb!

MaxInDHouse:
The problem here is misunderstanding!

None of Adam's descendants can become perfect until God's Kingdom comes but as we live each day we want to continue working out our salvation {Philippians 2:12} so we shouldn't expect our fellow believers to be perfect but continue helping those who are spiritually weak among us! James 5:14-15

That's what the undeserved kindness (grace) of God means otherwise no human is qualified before God! Psalms 14:3; Isaiah 64:6 compare to Luke 18:19

So whenever you read about "church of the Saints" in the scriptures it doesn't mean church of perfect humans o rather it means the congregation of those who are willing to subject themselves to God's will but time and time again they do fall short due to their imperfect condition {Proverbs 24:16} God only overlook their weaknesses because of the blood of Jesus Christ {Romans 7:15-25} and they are sober when they fall they don't rejoice over unrighteousness! 1Corinthians 13:6

I've told you several times that you and i aren't worshiping the same God so keep your beliefs while i also keep mine!

MaxInDHouse:
Of course you can quote a scripture but know the practical application of what you're quoting, Apostle Paul was a BORN AGAIN Christian called directly by Jesus Christ himself yet Paul kept struggling with IMPERFECTION! Romans 7:15-25

So if you say you're perfect simply because you became a Christian it sounds somehow because even those who knew Jesus face to face according to the scriptures were never that perfect despite being BORN AGAIN!

elated177:
You still don't get it. Condemning homosexuality does not exempt other sins from the category of sins.

What misinformation is being spread about gays? Mention some of them. In what ways have you proven such misinformation wrong?


Naturally, a person is not wired to go after another person of the same gender for sexual relationship. For the umpteenth time, when this happens, something has gone wrong somewhere. This is very true. This is the point where I ask, again, I think, what makes sex enjoyable in males?

If homosexuality is not about sex, what is it about? Tell me how a guy can be sexually attracted to another guy without desiring to have sex with him. Can sex be separated from homosexuality?

People are not born homosexual. I have stated this so many times.

Why aren't you getting it? You, as a male, are not wired to have sex with or be sexually attracted to another male. If this happens, something has gone wrong somewhere. Do a little soul-searching and try to find out when and where you had your first homosexual relationship.

elated177:
Sins are sins and no truthful and sincere person will say otherwise.


Natural law has not and will not consent to sex between two people of the same sex. Natural law is never going to give its consent in that regard. So, it means that whenever two people of the same sex engage in any form of sexual relationship, they do so without the consent of Natural Law. Therefore, the sexual relationship between two people of the same gender, who are are on the surface of the earth, is not and will never be consensual. When two people of the same gender engage in any form of sexual relationship, they rape the Natural Law, which has fixed and stipulated that sex is between a man and a woman. We all know and accept that rape is a grievous sin. So, homosexuals and lesbians should stop raping the Natural Law.


When two consenting adults lock themselves inside their room and help each other to commit suicide, have they hurt anyone?


Natural Law has stipulated that sex between two people of the same gender is an abomination - an aberration or an anomaly if you prefer - and doing so violates its stipulation.


When you have sex with your fellow man, you rape the Natural Law. Stop raping the Natural Law.

elated177:
Same sex exists in every creature? Wow! That is a new one.

Why do you people always play this card every single time homosexuality is condemned? This thread is not about other sins. It is not about lying, stealing or killing. Those are all sins.

What homosexuality apologists call misinformation, most times, is actually usually truth which the don't want to hear or disseminated.

Yeah! That attempt at emotional blackmail every time. Homosexuality is a mind thing. Like I always ask: what make sex enjoyable in males? Can you answer this question?

elated177:
There many gods out there. There is one God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. He has his Commandments and anyone who claims to worship him must obey his Commandments.

He did not create anyone a homosexual. He created those who practise the abominable act of homosexuality, but he did not create them to practise such.

This question has been answered countless times. Why do you still vacillate between the detestable nature of homosexuality and demonic acceptance of homosexuality? You need to make up your mind and choose one. However, you must try as much as you can to listen to and hold on to that inner voice still telling you to walk away from the detestable and abominable nature of homosexuality. That voice is the natural human conscience and anyone who silences it is lost.

Religion or no religion, humans are not wired to have sex with the same gender. What I mean is this: men are not naturally wired to have sex with their fellow men and women are not naturally designed to have sex with women. So, blaming religion for homophobia is misplaced blame. Such individual should blame himself or herself for not being strong enough to resist that demonic urge to have sex with his or her fellow male or female.

What is sex really? What makes sex enjoyable?

MaxInDHouse:
Keep washing your filth in the blood of the lamb continuously but that doesn't mean we can become PERFECT until God's Kingdom is here.
Otherwise Paul won't say he's still struggling with IMPERFECTION despite having the holy spirit! Romans 7:21-25

AntiChristian:
u dey vex?

MaxInDHouse:
Sinners simply means imperfect humans!

The tendency to think about evil in ones heart has already defiled a man {Mark 7:21-23} it's our level of weakness that results in carrying it out but thinking about it alone is the reason why we are called imperfect {Matthew 5:28} because that's not God's image in which we were created! Ephesians 4:23-24

So if any believer falls no matter how many times {Proverbs 24:16} we should remember that it's due to his weakness {Matthew 18:21-22} that's when we need to help them to regain their stamina to conquer the flesh! James 5:14-15

Please Jesus is the only begotten Son of the true God who knew our formation that we are mere dust {Psalms 103:12-14} so he doesn't expect perfection from any of us therefore God's organization preach and teach that we must be merciful always to anyone who is repentant no matter what he/she did!

MaxInDHouse:
Please how does this correlate with with what we're saying?

MaxInDHouse:
Sinners simply means imperfect humans!

The tendency to think about evil in ones heart has already defiled a man {Mark 7:21-23} it's our level of weakness that results in carrying it out but thinking about it alone is the reason why we are called imperfect {Matthew 5:28} because that's not God's image in which we were created! Ephesians 4:23-24

So if any believer falls no matter how many times {Proverbs 24:16} we should remember that it's due to his weakness {Matthew 18:21-22} that's when we need to help them to regain their stamina to conquer the flesh! James 5:14-15

Please Jesus is the only begotten Son of the true God who knew our formation that we are mere dust {Psalms 103:12-14} so he doesn't expect perfection from any of us therefore God's organization preach and teach that we must be merciful always to anyone who is repentant no matter what he/she did!

MaxInDHouse:
Of course that's how things should be and Paul emphasized on it to build up the faith of Christians, but Jesus cleared the air because we are SINNERS needing help that's why we come under his guidance otherwise we won't have any need for Jesus! Matthew 9:13

That's why in the first century congregation there were all these traits {1Corinthians 5:1} but each individual was busy working out his own salvation {Philippians 2:12} by washing themselves to be clean in the blood of the lamb as they're coming to Jesus only arrogant people don't think they're in need of help but sinners do! Matthew 13:15

Paul himself told us that he also have his own sin that he's busy struggling with {Romans 7:21-25} so we are all sinners battling with imperfection until our robe is clean we must continue WASHING! Revelations 7:14

What we must all remember is that we need to watch each other's back, each JW is his brother's keeper so when a brother commits a sin we try to help him regain his strength spiritual! James 5:14-15

It's rebelliousness as in unrepentance that Jesus condemns {Matthew 18:15-17} as long as you're willing to admit your wrong and repent no matter your sin Jesus will say to you:

"you will be with me in Paradise" Luke 23:43

MaxInDHouse:
According to the above quotation worshipers of the true God may be in different locations on this planet but they will bear the same GROUP name because the name of their God is the most important in their worship {John 17:6, 26} so people globally will recognize them due to their oneness in thought! John 17:20-23 compare 1Corinthians 1:10

The true God leads them in the path of righteousness because of His name {Psalms 23:3} He referred to them as His WITNESSES {Isaiah 43:10-12} that's the name He calls them today! Isaiah 65:15

They are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!