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No, Nigeria is collapsing because of religion be it Christianity or Islam!

LIARS! LIARS!! LIARS!!!

Praxis758:
Any affiliation with IPOB is condemnable, the DSS should use some speed and effort to arrest the dreaded herdsmen terrorizing defenseless citizens in Benue and the southern part of the country.

Why has the FG failed to arrest or prosecute a single bandit?

Same country, categorized citizens!

Why has the FG failed to arrest or prosecute a single bandit?

You're asking a question that you already know the answer to. Of course, the reason why no Fulani terrorist has ever been arrested is because the Fulani Government of Nigeria (FGN) is the sponsor of terrorism in the country.

I do NOT support any form of violence against anyone be it a police officer or a civilian. However, people should be made sometimes to get a taste of their own medicine. We all have seen several videos on social media of police molesting innocent civilians for no reason but simply because the victim only tried to assert his rights.

EmeeNaka:
You are still struggling to push your thoughts through.

Yes, Society do not pray their way out of poverty. Society also do not riot their way out of their problem.
The economic problems and other problem of the society are always solved with good political leadership. You can never expect the church to solve Nigeria problem because it is beyond them and that is why they ask people to pray. The church plays a lot of role in in the welfare of their member. One of such role is the 'opium' role; where the church helps people to bear the pains. The problems that led people to churches were not created by Pastors, instead by bad leadership.
The church and church leaders contributes their quota to the promotion of the good political leadership and welfare of the society. One of the leading voices against oppression and bad leadership in Nigeria are Arch Mattew Kukah, Bishop Chukwuma, Bishop Oyedepo and many more like them. The Christian religious leaders, under CAN, has repeatedly condemned all sort of killings that targets innocents and Christians in Nigeria. The CAN has also mounted pressure on governments to acts.
You must stop looking at the bad things. Your eyes only see some bad isolated cases. The church has been a champion of education, health, human right and freedom.
You claim to delve into areas you are versed in, but unfortunately, your eyes sees only the things you want to see. Nothing stops you also from reading about the contributions of Islam and other religious groups to the current security problems, economic hardships and human right abuses bedevilling Nigeria.
Churches and Pastors has never impoverished the masses. In fact, the church is a great promoter of hard work. Every church wants their members to pay tithes and tithes has to come from your earnings. Can church impoverish people in order to get tithes? What kind of logic is that? Which research claim that church impoverished people? In Nigeria, the Christian dominated areas performs better in education, health and poverty alleviation. If church impoverishes people, why are the Christian majority states doing better? You must open your mind to learning and critique the nonsense you scripted above.
I am not acquitting some Pastors of scams, but to gather church together for condemnation because of the bad conduct of few people is unacceptable.
You guys that are too critical of churches should just be the atheist you want to be instead of pretending to be fighting bad Christian practices. The major problems of Christians and Nigerians are terrorism and bad leadership/corruption, not Pastors.

OH LAWD! I just DON'T do dumb and can NOT dignify ignorance and lack of reasoning. You keep talking about the church (inanimate object) as if I am blaming the church per se. I guess you can NOT differentiate the churches as an entity and the humans (Pastors) who run them. You really need to get a grip and STOP conflating the two. The church as an inanimate object does NOT make decisions but your pastors, daddy G.Os and the so-called men of God who run them are the ones I am talking about. They are the ones that I have a problem with because they are the ones scamming and deceiving their congregants. And if you have a problem with that, you know what to do, don't you?

I am sorry to say, "You would never get an answer because the same people that killed her are the same people that you're demanding an answer from." It's too bad that this is what the country has turned to!

EmeeNaka:
You have lost your mind. You probably think I would toe your direction of thought or reasoning in responding to you.
Nigeria has problems which are well noted by all except criminals who are quick to rile idi0ts into their manner of reasoning__church blaming. The idi0ts who blame churches do not blame other religion especially Islam. It is noted that religious riots and terrorism
instigated by Fanatical Muslims has cost Nigeria so much in life and properties and even in peace and tranquility. Today, millions of Nigerians from Borno, Yobe, Adamawa, Kaduna, Taraba etc are living in IDP camps courtesy of Islamists. The idi0ts who blame churches for selling anointed oil or make prophecy would turn a blind eye to the above.
For the past 8 years and indeed, since independence, so much measured in hundreds of billions of dollars has been lost to official corruption and civil wars and different conflict in Nigeria. Non of these conflicts or embezzlement of public funds was caused by church. None of these were caused by men of God.
President Buhari's regime dragged more than 50million Nigerians back into poverty within 8years, but to you, it is church selling anointing oil that is your problem.
You go about listing isolated cases and magnifying it while avoiding the real issue in your deep hatred for Christianity. You are frustrated and you should take you frustration elsewhere.
I do not support any church, which are deceptive. But unfortunately, people are turning to church business and prayer trading because of evils I have already mentioned. Nigeria is bleeding and church is not the cause. We will not continue to join criminals to attack the church because they found it a soft target.

You are beyond pathetic! I did NOT expect you to tow my line of reasoning even if you try because your ignorance is beyond comprehension. You could not even articulate your thoughts well enough to respond to the questions posed to you, instead, you are relying on your wilful ignorance as always to spew garbage and defend the indefensible. First, I do NOT venture into areas I am not versed in. I delve into issues and areas that I know well enough to engage in intelligent discourse.

I am NOT a Muslim and NOT well adept to talk about Islam other than the superficial knowledge I have of the religion from reading and the physical manifestation of what I see happening especially in Nigeria, which is not good either. But Christianity is what I know well enough because I was born and raised in it. Having said that, I have every right to talk about your pastors who are using their so-called "Calling" to scam desperate, poor, naive, and gullible members of their congregation.

Yes, you stated how churches are being burned by Muslim terrorists, the question then is how many of your Pastors have the balls to speak out against the maiming and killing of their parishioners? Absolutely NONE! And why is that? Because they are in cahoots with the crooked politicians and do NOT want to mess up their gravy train. And the sad part about it is that those of you who profess to be Christians in name only would justify albeit blindly and ignorantly any bad behavior by your pastors and men of God.

Your pastors have used religion and Christianity to impoverish the masses who themselves are too ignorant and gullible to reason for themselves. They had been taught by the pastors that the reason they are in the condition that they are in is that they are either NOT sowing enough seed or NOT paying enough tithe. They are also told that prayer is the ONLY answer to whatever problem they have. These scammers blatantly lie to them that if they desire good roads, security, electricity, a job, and a better life all they need is PRAYER..

So, please get it thru your head, I am NOT blaming the church, instead, I am blaming the scammers who go by various names: Pastors, Men of God, and Daddy G.Os! Now, watch the video at the link below and see if you would get a better insight.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIxsqL4tNNs

dre11:
https://guardian.ng/news/ekweremadu-taught-english-in-wandsworth-prison/

I hope his deserved travails serve as a lesson to other crooked politicians who feel they are on top of the world and untouchable.

It seems Islamization and Fulanization are getting into top gear. They started by banning protests in order to prevent you from protesting any laws that they would enact. Then, they introduced a bill to CONTROL Christianity and now they want to introduce Sharia law all across the land in a country that claims to be secular. This is just the beginning of what they got in stock for you!

EmeeNaka:
Are you trying to say that Churches are the problem?
Most of you nonsensical people do not have the gut to say the same about Islam.
Because of Christian believe in love and freedom, some of you are trampling on Christianity. Church is not the problem of Nigeria. Church is not the cause of Boko haram in Nigeria, Church is not the cause of Ansaru in Nigeria, Church is not the cause of unknown gunmen in Nigeria, Church is not the cause of Corruption and maladministration in Nigeria. Church is not the cause of technology dearth in Nigeria.
Op, stop your nonsense. If you want to be atheist, so be it. Nobody cares much.

You're a freaking M0R0N! You need to stop this foolishness of "What aboutism?"
1. Who are the ones scamming their members by making false predictions about their future? Your so-called men of God.
2. Who are the ones winning and dining with your crooked politicians? Your Pastors
3. Who are the ones giving front-row seats in their churches to crooked and fraudulent politicians who had impoverished the citizens? Your daddy G.Os
4. Who are the ones that accept millions of naira in donations from murderers and armed robbers to pray for them? Your men of God.
5. Who are the ones that would be telling their members to buy olive oil for their security while they drive around in a bulletproof convoy with armed security men? Your Pastors.
6. Who are the ones living opulent lifestyles while their members are living in abject poverty? Your men of God. I can go on and on and on.

So, please do NOT come here with this bullshit about Christianity and all that jazz. You fools mistake Christianity for something else. If you actually read the Bible, you need to ask yourself whether Jesus Christ lived the way your Pastors and Daddy G.Os live today. Let me say it once again, your pastors and so-called men of God are scammers and they have no conscience otherwise they would NOT be doing what they are doing. Jesus Christ in the Bible spoke truth to power. He spoke out against injustice, He lived amongst the poor and the downtrodden and He never took money to pray for fraudsters or anyone for that matter. But your men of God are silent when evil is being perpetrated against the people. They offer crooked politicians, thieves, and armed robbers front-row seats in their churches and pray for them just for monetary benefit. I am NOT an advocate for any religion but since you're comparing your pastors to imams, could you please tell me any imams acting in the manners that I listed above?

Igboslayer:
You and your your forefathers brought war to this country and still at it till this day. Never before have we seen a tribe so rich in animosity and hatred for others... who blame everyone else except themselves for their many inglorious indiscretion in leading an ethnocentric life styles as means of survival.

I understand you like to wear ignorance as a garb of honor but let me remind you that it's NOT bliss. As they say, "If you want to hide something from a black man, you hide it in a book." So, I am not surprised that you're ignorant of the history of your failed country. Go and read what led to the coup of 1966 so you can get some knowledge rather than living your whole existence as dumb as a rock. I do NOT blame you because you're brought up in a society where lies and innuendos are celebrated. It's hard for you to admit but your problem is pure jealousy of the Igbo tribe. It's NOT my fault that you see Igbos as your nightmare. Now, click on the link below to get educated so that you STOP making a fool of yourself when you talk like a kindergartener.

https://www.thehistoryville.com/operation-wetie-1966-nigerian-coup-detat/

Presidential candidate of the Labour Party (LP) Peter Obi has expressed confidence that he would be the President of Nigeria.
He however said he was not in a hurry to achieve the dream.

Speaking on Friday during the unveiling of the book, Peter Obi: many voices, one perspective, Obi stressed the need to always stand for the truth in the quest to build a new Nigeria. He also pledged to accept the decision of the judiciary.

He said: “I’ll always insist on what is right. When I was impeached as governor, people asked me to do this and that, I said no. I won’t give money to do the wrong thing.

“Again, I had never met with Mahoud Yakubu, since he became the head of INEC. Although I was together with him as the chairman in a committee but I don’t need to meet him because he has only one vote which he can cast to anyone.

“If he wants to do what is wrong, no problem. One day, this thing we are doing in this country will consume all of us. He added: “I’m in this journey anyone that thinks I’m on transit is joking. I must be the president of this country. If it’s not today, it will be tomorrow. I’m not in a hurry. I’m not desperate.

“We must fix this country. I have only one passport. if anyone thinks that Peter Obi will run away, is wasting his time.


“I’m in court now, whatever decision of the court, I’ll respect it. I’m not going to riot after which we’ll continue. But I know we’re committed to the destiny of this nation, when it’s God’s time it’ll happen

Appreciating the OBIdients for their understanding and perseverance, Obi insisted that his softness and apologetic disposition remained the way to go and sign of discipline and responsibility.

“We’re trying to build a new Nigeria and that new Nigeria must be ready to say sorry, even if they are right. We need to start thinking about what are we going to do to have a better country”.

Chairman, Obi of Onitsha and Anambra State Traditional Rulers Council, Alfred Nnaemeka Achebe, described Obi as a man of destiny, whose progress in life reflects the hand of God upon him.

“It’s not by his works or by his power,” he submitted.

Lead Editor of the book, Prof. Chinyere Stella Okunna described the piece as capturing everything about the man, Peter Obi. She said: “We are not saying that Peter Obi is a saint. But he stands out in integrity. Nigeria is richly blessed if this man becomes President”.

“Whatever we realise here will be channeled into the ongoing litigation. I am hopeful that the litigation will end well, and the truth will come out”.

https://thenationonlineng.net/i-must-be-president-someday-says-obi/

Igboslayer:
We are just too tired of you people, you are never satisfied with anything, you want war all the time, we want peace and don’t want those negative energy of yours anymore… we are just too tired, we will even pay you to leave Nigeria for us… bunch of kvetching miscreants.

No time to waste before inauguration… you can now have your Biafra.

"we want peace and don’t want those negative energy of yours anymore..."

Your statement above is a misnomer. You can lie to yourself and play the ostrich but you can NEVER have peace amidst chaos! Have fun with your Nigeria, that's if it does NOT happen to you before then!

China is currently the world's leading economic power. In China, there is almost Zero Church presence. Prosperity preachers are useless in China.

Finland has the most stable economy in the world today. There are less than twenty churches in Finland. Sow-to-prosper doesn't work in Finland.

Switzerland has the second most stable economy in the world.
Switzerland has fewer than thirty churches. Miracle money is not welcome in Switzerland.

Denmark is the third most stable economy in the world, there are about 23 churches in Denmark. Denmark doesn't pray for it's economic stability.
These countries are considered to have the highest number of atheists, but they are prosperous!

Let's go to #Africa...
There are more than 10,000 churches per region including 4,000 churches in the city of Yaoundé alone! Yet poverty is driving Cameroonians to even other poor countries.

About 4100 churches in only the city of Abidjan!

7000 churches in only the city of Kinshasa!

Over 20,000 churches in only the city of Lagos in Nigeria! Lagos is just one state out of 36 states that make up Nigeria. Yet Nigerians are leading the world in corruption and crimes.

In Africa, there are more churches than schools and hospitals combined! More pastors than doctors.

Everyone is born again yet crimes are on the increase.

Everyone is covered with the blood of Jesus yet accidents happen on our bad roads.

Everyone is filled with the Holy Spirit yet our morals are depreciating in geometric progression.

Africa's religiosity does not reflect the morals that are hoped for in a society.

We are among the most deceiving, the most corrupt, the most hypocritical, the most hateful on the planet today, Our people need to distinguish between religion and stupidity or between spirituality and brainwashing! Meditate on this before you start running off your mouth.

(Author Unknown)

Igboslayer:
Continue…Your claims are too bogus to be real. Meanwhile the time is very close to 29th of May. Your pastor wish of anarchy will never happen.

FYI: I am NOT dragging your useless and failed country with you. Good or bad, you and yours have to deal with it. Good luck!

Oh Now, your so-called first lady is back in the country when her supposed husband is away in the UK. What a bunch of gullible people. No wonder your politicians take you for FOOLS!

BeardedmeatR:
Empty!

Bye!

Look in the mirror and you'd see what empty looks like!

BeardedmeatR:
Is this all you got? Laughable! 😄

You didn't believe Obi would win because they hate him but you believe you can get Biafra by brutally killing your own people and others on a daily basis. By raping your own women and kidnapping and wanton destruction of your people's properties.
Again, this is laughable 😀

Here we go again resorting to mindless talk, innuendos, cheap a$$ blackmail, and propaganda. But guess what? It does NOT matter! Your several attempts at blackmailing have not worked, so, you might have to find another means. Your Nigeria is going to happen to you if it's NOT already happening to you. And I will be here to laugh and mock you!

Igboslayer:
Well done! Number one statement MAKER on Nairaland. Dey play ooo

Am I surprised? Absolutely NOT! When you do NOT have the facts on your side, you resort to MEMES!!

Igboslayer:
These same perceptions lead this man to this present travails… don’t make statements you can’t prove.

I made the statement and stand by it, and it's left for you to disprove it if you got your facts correct!

BeardedmeatR:
Excuse me mahn! You really need to GTFO right now! Why do you want to weep on my shoulders?

As they say, "If you can't take the heat, stay off the kitchen," or better yet, stay off my freaking lane and mind your damn business. Why are you crying like a kitten? I was minding my own business but like a busy body that you're, you had to butt in and now you're weeping like a woosy! What a shame.

BeardedmeatR:
I'm good.

Alrighty then! Be good or I will be back

I wonder why these gullible Nigerians never asked this simple question: "Why is the so-called first lady, your presidiot's wife, Aisha B0K0HARI, supposedly a Muslim abandoning her marital home in Nigeria and relocated to Dubai without her husband?" Aisha B0K0HARI left Nigeria around September 2020 and has been living in Dubai ever since. Where on this God's green earth does something like this happen other than in the zoo called Nigeria? If these social media bandits, B0K0HARI a$$ lickers, and "alright sirs" would ask and answer this simple question, they would be better off.

BeardedmeatR:
Where were you when they accused him of playing nzogbu nzogbu politics? I want to see your defense of him then.

I guess it has not occurred to you that I am NEITHER an OBIDIENT nor interested in your country's politics and your 2023 fraudulent selection. I only commented about your Peter Obi because it pains me as an Igbo-speaking Biafran, to see him trying his darndest to curry favor from Nigerians, especially from those that HATE his guts with a passion. He needs to STOP sucking up to those that have made it obvious that they hate him. Trying to lick their a$$es would not earn him any brownie points knowing the country that he's foolishly advocating for.

BeardedmeatR:
Rest it bro.

Resting it starts with you, bro!

BeardedmeatR:
This is your personal opinion and may not be the fact... Remember that.

Of course, it's my personal opinion and from all available indications, it is a FACT! If you have anything, on the contrary, to disprove my opinion, spill it out!

"He was accused of “attempt to do acts of terrorism, participation in terrorism, meeting to support a proscribed entity, attempt to finance an act of terrorism and preparation to commit an act of terrorism, preferred against him by the state government.”

What a JOKE. This is the same Lagos State government that was sponsoring and supporting mindless and uneducated thugs to commit mayhem against fellow citizens simply because they do NOT believe in their brand of politics. What a hopeless country you find yourselves in.

BeardedmeatR:
Where were you when they accused him of playing nzogbu nzogbu politics? I want to see your defense of him then.

I guess it has not occurred to you that I am NEITHER and OBIDIENT nor interested in your country's politics and your 2023 fraudulent selection. I only commented about your Peter Obi because it pains me as an Igbo-speaking Biafran, to see him trying his darndest to curry favor from Nigerians, especially from those that HATE his guts with a passion. He needs to STOP sucking up to those that have made it obvious that they hate him. Trying to lick their a$$es would not earn him any brownie points knowing the country that he's foolishly advocating for.

BeardedmeatR:
And Obi is no fool. You can be rest assured.

Disarming your enemies, winning through your actions and not argument or belligerence are vital tools in power play.

I was not happy when he visited Soyinka for whatever reason, but I'm not part of the power play going on and so won't really understand him.

Disarming your enemies, winning through your actions and not argument or belligerence are vital tools in power play

I guess you might be talking about a different country than Nigeria that we know when you talk about using soft diplomacy! Not in your Nigeria. Your failed country defies all natural laws and common decency!

BeardedmeatR:
You stoop to conquer. Bring your enemies even closer. Then read my siggy.

Peter Obi is not a hateful bigoted politician like Tinubu and his goons.

He does NOT have to be a hateful and bigoted politician like Tiefnubu and his goons as you said for him to realize that he should only go where he's celebrated and NOT just tolerated. Only a FOOL that does not recognize who his enemies are!

Peter Obi needs to STOP all this "Kumbaya" nonsense. He needs to understand that Nigeria is NEVER one and his trying to endear himself to his enemies is the greatest mistake he would make. These folks hate his guts and he's out there trying to be mister nice guy and calling everyone his senior brother. Is he that stupid and naive? The earlier he understands that, the better off he would become.

post=123055297:
https://www.channelstv.com/2023/05/10/anambra-students-create-smart-walking-sticks-for-the-blind

Another Biafran innovation! More reason we need to exit the ZOO to allow our innovative and creative juices to flow instead of being stifled. Congratulations ladies!