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Fundamentalist:
You only told us how you did ruqyah in brief. Can you explain to us how its done in detail , according to the sunnah ?

Like you said up there "Sorry man , I don't owe you any explanation"

Raintaker:
I think what I read is that they(emekaraj and his people later controlled the jinn).
I don't think he said the lady was possessed by a woman, but rather the jinn was sent byva woman to possess the lady.

Abi?

U are right

Fundamentalist:
To poke innovators like empiree

U are yet to answer me an tell me what empiree has invented

Fundamentalist:
To poke innovators like empiree

U are yet to answer me an tell me what empiree has invented

Food is ready BID'AH whatchmen

If you are an exorcist you have to be careful of jinn tho, they are very deceptive an good in lying. I dnt exorcize, because I know d battle that follows after exorcism, but wen it comes to close one's am up for the battle. If you are from where I grew up u knw jinn possession is a normal thing.

Sometime ago One of my niece wen to all night maulud tafsir. And she came back an started behaving strange. Immediately she told me Wat happen wen she was coming from the tafsir in the mornin I knew its jinn possession. But I have to put it to test so I told her to stretch her hands an play azhan from ruqya CD in home theater. And she started shaking telling me stop it something she loves hearing b4. So i knw she was possess. And I came back d next day to perform ruqya on her.

Long story short the jinn spoke and ask wats my business why can't I mind my business. And I told him it becomes my business wen u mess with my family. He Said he was sent to possess the girl by her mothers sister. After Much recite He agreed to leave but he want to be my friend. I said OK just for him to leave her. I dnt knw if he pretend to leave or he actually left and came back, but I was called the next day dat her situation has gotten worse so I called a friend of mine and we did d reciting together d same jinn came out again and said he is nt done with the girl. After much recite we converted him and left. I was called again that d jinn is back. He claim this time he changed his mind he doesn't Want to be a Muslim anymore. This is wen we decided to use d jinn catching method. After bombarding him with strong verses and he left. Since we dnt have a catcher, We bring him back to the girls body, with verse 148 of baqara from "ayna ma takunu" he came back but by the power of Allah instead of him possessing the girl she is d one possessing him. So he is now in our control. an in our mercy begging, we called all of his associates and convert them all properly this time, we gave them the light of Islam an weapons to fight shayateen and they were very happy to serve Allah.
The jinn insisted he wants to be my friend, dat he can do anything for me, after consistently deceiving me for three days. So i ask Wat he can do for me, he said anything. I said like Wat? He said anything. But I know he is only lying he can't do anything. I told him if he want to help he should go and fight for Allah.
Pls If u can't see them dont dnt run anything with them, even the Muslim one's have hypocrite amongst them just like humans.

Fundamentalist:
Fear not, I dont harm people .

Imagine, I should fear not. If u think am d type dat give a damn. U are in for disappointment. Wen I start my post na u go run

Fundamentalist:
To poke innovators like empiree

Pls tell me what empiree has invented I will like to learn if it makes sense.

Fundamentalist:
Open minded Muslim , I dey observe you

I feel there is a trap in those statements, " I dey observe you" why me?

Fundamentalist:
I carry my chair come Sidon dey look empiree and emekaraj

No comment for now

Sit down comfortably an read, with positive mind tho. But if u come with negativity. U won't understand

@ dultmax Nice write up.... Am familiar with this first stage, I think it's one of the hardest part in all the stages, once u are able to overcome ur worldly desires u are on d right journey.

I noticed that even though am naturally strong spiritually, wen I follow this step I become stronger more guided and purposeful in my spiritual journey.

May Allah guide us all

Empiree:
you have problem. Maybe this 12 mins video would help you of the definition and essence

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=2s&v=ie4YV0PTQ50

The word "Sufism" is not in the Quran but the descriptions are there. It is just like calling Allah by other names. So why are you nagging

So the Sufism existed in the time of nabi(saw). And sahaba were sufis.

I like the part where he said, he wish the word sufism wasn't invented, his life would have been easier.
I use to think that too.

Raintaker:
Nice, but catcher has to be careful so as not to be possessed by evil Jinns.

LOL....... Like we have to be careful wen we r driving?

Raintaker:
How do we take Dawah to the Jinns and how do we help the Muslim Jinns in their quest?

There is effective method of dawah to d jinns. It's called 'jinn catching' u can literally catch all the jinns in particular area and convert them to Muslims, and use a verse to command to fight for Allah against shayateen.

I will explain it later

Empiree:
it is the name "sufism" you have problem with or its essence?

Abi ooo..... They are just obsessed with word

Empiree:
Simple, isn't?.Tenets of islam are the basic requirements for all muslims. Some may choose to stop there and still make Janna. Some may grow further than that without abandoning the basics. There are overwhelming evidences of islamic practices beyond just salat, zakat, ramadan and Haj. If they feel no need to engage in islamic spirituality, which is actually the foundation in islam (dhikr allah), that's their opinion. They read many instances of Ihsan or tasawwuf, or zuhd whatever name they wanna call it in many ahadith but they chose to argue.

My point exactly, u chose to limit ur self to minimum wages, I choose d Sky as my limit, by Allah we will all enter jannah, or perhaps I will enter a higher jannah cos I chose to go beyond the basic and worship Allah more

tayebest:
After she was bribed again?

Obviously now

iamgenius:
BID'AH people don see each other. You dodged my questions as to what you mean by Spirituality.

Haaa!! Na by force..... I refuse to engage in those endless arguments with u. There's ur believe I can't change it obviously, and u can't change mine, so wats d point. If u have never walk down d spiritual path u can never understand. Dats y I only engage those who understand the topic.

mostyg:
Let me first mention that I m not here to argue, I m here to collaborate the op's view based on personal experience.

We are indeed in war which we are heedless of.
How many of us believe in existence of witches and wizards? Why do we think people join these group consciously and unconsciously? Unconsciously because 50% of people just found themselves in the group. Witches recruit people just like any other organization. Once you found yourself being invited to a party with same clothes 'Aso ebi' or always eating in your dreams, there is tendency you are being invited to such group.
Unfortunately, some of our children have been forced in and they are being waited for to come of age and given power. ( we don't have to believe this).
Just yesterday after a ruqya session a brother asked if there was going to be an end to this spiritual attack. Of course himself and myself know the answer is negative. The people of evil are increasing in number while the Muslims are increasing themselves in follies against one another.
On the issue of helping the Muslim jinns, this is very paramount. My little experience in ruqya field shows that most of these evil jinns do not know they are evil, they just obey instructions. They don't even know about judgement day. The recitation of suratul qiyamah has made most of them accept Islam. Preaching to these jinns about Islam and begging Allah to show them their final abode if they died in the state of kufr and their abode if they accept Islam have always yielded positive result. I may not be able to count numbers of jinns and witches who has taken shahadah and later turned to fight those using them for evil. Wa kanno haqo alayno nasru limuminun.

My advise, whenever a jin speaks, please do whatever in your capacity to let them accept Islam. Please note that some would accept in order to let them go without being sincere with it. In that case recite the verse of the place of hypocrite to them, and begging Allah to let them see.

Let me add that during the course of ruqya, Allah has bless us with several people that see jinns and witches in people. This also has its own other side, when a witch or jinn knows that you could see him/her, they come for you and it becomes a never ending war.

Our adhkar is very important, let's endeavor to do it with our family always. The tactics of the evil is firstly to make you loose your guard (adhkar), then they come striking.
No one I repeat no one cannot be attack. Always be on guard with your adhkar.

May Allah continue to protect us.

My brother U are the type am looking for in these thread, u have d experience and understanding, kindly come and contribute once in a while to dis thread let's discuss spirituality.

Shafiiimran99:
The only way out is the obedient to the commandments of Allah. Allah say; take care of yourselves by forbidden what is wrong and encourage what is right then no evildoer will over power you, provided you obey Allah. Moreover, islam spirituality point of view is different from non muslims view though islam itself is spiritual

U have a point, but it's not anough, we need to do more, if d kafirun can go to any length for their false god, we as Muslims should be able to do more for Allah

Ruq:
I'm afraid we can only do little as it has been written that Kushoo will be forgotten in the last days when that time comes. So it is one of the signs of the end of time.

You have a point too

dultmax:
I love this post.

When the sufis try to explain spirituality, fellow muslim brothers will come here and shout bidia....they will shout shirk...they will look for all ways to paint it bad.

As if the Quran and Hadith didnt talk about it.

For all those who are interested in the spiritual path and knowledge, I would like us to create a thread where we give fundamentals of spiritualism, the science of sacred law which originated within the Ummah, the state and levels of human reasoning will be the topics to be treated and also, the steps to get direct vision of divine light of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) will also be the main aim of the topic.

in conclusion, we can start our spiritual journey together and get wilaya together.

If you support this, pls let me know

N.B...if your level of reasoning is still that spiritual science it shirk, you need to re-discover your self and read lots of suratul Fatiha.

Allah will help us all.

Good idea..... Exactly Wat I think too... Why don't we continue it on this thread I think this is a good topic to start d discussion

Abeg make una no ask me for evidence na spiritual matter

I know we don't like discussing this as Muslims but.... there it is

Empiree what is ur take on Islam and spirituality

What does Islam say about our spirituality? Why do we talk less about spirituality in Islam? Is it not as important as well.

from my personal experience a lot is going in the spiritual realm, u might think is not your business, but believe me the activities going on in the spiritual realm is affecting our daily life but we know not. And from what I see the shayateen are winning the war.

Let me tell you, shaitan don't care about the Christians, atheist, Jews and other religion because they are already misguided. They only care about the believers (Muslims) and while we are going about our normal business looking for our daily bread, they are devising new strategies everyday to cause enmity, war, hatred between Muslims so that the Muslims will kill themselves, This way it makes their job of weakening Muslims easy all in preparation for the coming of dajjal.

There's is a big conspiracy against Islam in the world today, and the shayateen are the once in charge making sure the plan comes to fruition. This enormous conspiracy has its headquarter in America. Unfortunately we Muslims we are so easy to be divided. Fighting each other on every issue, even in these small nairaland, we can't seem to agree on one thing. This are all the works of shaitan.

Dont you think the wars going on in the world today has spiritual explanation? I know for sure it has. Bokoharam and isis that u see today are been used by jinns while they themselves use them in taweez.

Haven't you noticed that both terorist group only kill Muslims in mosque this days. That's the jinns at work, according to them they love the Muslim blood. There is a network called boo woo, they are in charge of causing war between Muslims, in preparation for the coming of dajjal.

So many Strange things happening this days, like missing aeroplane without any trace, it's all the work of jinns. The Muslim jinns are battling the shayateen one's every day but they are so few and been overrun, we the human needs to join this battle.

My point is we need to wake up and fight the spiritual jihad too. We need to Take dawah to the jinns, We need to do more than just praying 5 times daily.

SALAM

tintingz:
May Flying spaghetti monster have mercy on you and guide you.

Emipree, sino, Albaqir, sissie, Rashduct4luv, imam tbaba1234. is this how your fellow Muslim behave cursing and threats of an imaginary place using the Quran because the debate is diminishing your faiths. .

This dude can't stand to tolerate logic, he took it emotional.

What's logic in those nonsense u are saying. U are going round an round everytime u are trapped. Repeating the same trash u memorized. The evidence, signs of God existence is in everything around us, if u can't see that, how are u rational? Only The ulul albab can comprehend

I didn't curse u, I only supported Allahs curse on u.
I pity the people that's still trying to save u wen u are all already doomed with curse.

tintingz:
Empiree you see what I'm talking about.

Then who created Allah? Or you don't believe everything must have a creator?

The OP contradict your statement here, he claim "Ad Infinitum" is irrational and impossible then how come Allah is infinite? Allah must have had a beginning at a point in time.

The universe is still been studied, we don't know if the universe has a beginning or infinite or multiple (multiverse). The argument for Allah is also same for the universe.

You can see your statement here is relative, every religion believe thier God is the true God. If I see any person in other religions claiming his/her God is the true one, I will challenge the person.

Allah is the true God, this your claim, now prove it!

No, the OP argument is flawed, contradicting, sentimental and problematic.

# Allah created time and space, then he's stuck, bound and eslave to time and space just like we humans since he has matter and energy to do so.

# If Allah is before time and space and Nothing above him and before him then what domain is he in, he is confined outside time and space and also has nothing to do with this our natural world, he's Nothing to us!

# If Allah is infinite then it's problematic to what the OP said about "impossibility of Ad Infinitum" and secondly the Universe can also be infinite.

May Allahs curse be upon u, and remain unguided till u meet him. Double torment shall be urs, for u had d knowledge an deviate

Goddygee:
A lasting solution will be found now that they too are feeling the heat, no body has monopoly of violence

Bro, they kill fulanis everyday even b4 now, they just hapen to live in bushes were nobody care Wat happens their, plus they dnt hav media voice as they are not educated.

Chevronstaff:
Deployed ARMY for Shiites, peaceful IPOB protesters, Niger Delta Militants BUT DEPLOYED POLICE for Miyetti Allah Fulani Herdsmen that have killed scores & ravaged farmlands.
It's like some people still don't know that Buhari has always been a religious,
ethnic bigot....!!!!

I know u talking out of ignorance...... I have never seen any group as deadly as fulani hardsmen. this guy's carry leg from sokoto to Niger, borno to benue through bush and desert, it's harder to find them than d aforementioned. They dnt stay in one place

proeast:
You think you are doing IPOB? You are doing yourself! Buhari's first four years is a disaster to every normal Nigerian except ofcourse the see no evil pretenders in the mold of bigots and zombies! Buhari threw Nigeria into the worst economic crises in history, worst insecurity since the civil war, hunger, refugee crises, corruption and nepotism. You god buhari is now hated with passion across Nigeria except to zombies and bigots!

U seem like the bigot here, for thinking d situation with bokoharam takin over adamawa, borno, yobe, Niger, an already entering Abuja were the Jonathan is better than now, then u have a short memory, an if think buhari is d one that brought Nigeria Into recession, wen Nigeria was already going into recession because of oil price, an d federal govt was borrowing to pay salary but buhari came to the rescue. U have a short memory as well.

dukie25:
I said the poll was not a real reflection of current mood in the nation. This is different from your 97% analogy because his followers are not just Hausas and Yorubas but APC ardent supporters. Why do you think he has no Igbo followers?

What mood? Keep deceiving ur self, because u an ur close friend an family hate buhari u think dats anough to beat him. To show that u have myopic mind, D poll is about whether pple think Jonathan would hav been better, but u made it about PDP vs APC and hausa, yoruba vs igbo. The truth is many pple dat hate buhari now still believe Goodluck will be worse