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MaxInDHouse:
Stop deceiving yourself Muslims claims they believe in Jesus just like all others claiming the same thing!

you are the one decieving yourself

Aemmyjah:
Ok
Before you attack someone as not obeying Christ
Show us how they are not doing so and how you are doing such

I said take your irrelevant quote off my mention.

Aemmyjah:
You know who are known to be preaching everywhere I asked you

take ur irrelevant quote off my mention.

Aemmyjah:
Who are preaching today?

na which kind question be this one !!

MaxInDHouse:
You're WRONG!

Each group hold their allegiance to the prophet of their choice they only use Jesus as cover up!
To Deeperlife Kumuyi is their prophet, to Redeem Adeboye is their prophet, to Cele Oshoffa is their prophet, to Winners Oyedepo is their prophet, to Christ Embassy Oyakilome is their prophet, to Chosen Mouka is their prophet, to CAC Babalola is their prophet.

I can go on and on as each of these different religions hold their allegiance to the prophet of their choice so when you quote Jesus they will quote their preferred prophet to counter what Jesus commanded yet they will still tell you they're for Jesus, that's exactly what those claiming Muslims are doing as well.

Ask any Muslim if they don't believe in Jesus as sent by God if they will say "NO" but the prophet they subscribe to is Muhammad just like all others do!

stop beating about the bush lets not digress from the topic. all the christian sect you mentioned, jesus christ is not just a prophet but a God who is actually worshiped. so to beleive in him means to believe he is a God or the son of God. muslims dont do that.

muslims do not believe in the divinity of jesus. so they do not hold the same belief as christians and so do not qualify to be called christians in any way.

they actually believe mohammed to be divine than jesus christ. that is why they kill at the slightest abuse of the name of mohammed alone but cannot do that when the name jesus is abused.
genesis 16:12 still remains the closest prophecy about islam in the bible.

Aemmyjah:
TO believe in Jesus means to obey his commands
Who's obeying his commands to preach?

the followers of christ preach his gospel. do muslims preach the gospel of christ?

MaxInDHouse:
To believe in Jesus means to have trust in his teachings. Billions claiming Christians aren't doing that so Muslims are part of billions who claims they believe in Jesus but aren't trusting his teachings!

you are wrong. muslims do not believe in the teachings of christ. muslims are not counted among the faithfuls of jesus but Mohamed. their allegiance is not to jesus it is to mohammed.

MaxInDHouse:
If they claim they believe in Jesus then they're one out of thousands of sects that are false Christians!

they don't believe in jesus the way you do, they j believe in him as a son of God neither do they live his life style. so they are not christians at all. whether false or not.

MaxInDHouse:
The only evidence of Islam in the Bible could be linked to Jesus' parable of the sower where an enemy (Satan) came to sow weeds in the farm when men were sleeping! Matthew 13:24-25

Jesus is the sower who showed fine seeds in the field {Matthew 13:37} the field is the world and the enemy is Satan {Matthew 13:38} after Jesus' ascension to heaven Satan made sure that all the apostles were killed {Revelations 12:17} so that none of them will be alive to say a word against the weeds (false religions initiated by Satan) that's why Jesus said "when men were sleeping" because the apostles (men) were all sleeping in death by the time Satan's agents began establishing false religions claiming Christians.
Islam came much later but ironically this one also claim it has a connection with Christ Jesus yet everything Jesus taught about how to make peace or pursue peace was ruled out in Islam as Muhammad was desperately protecting his own life even at the expense of those following him.

So don't think Satan's weeds are pagan traditions NO rather they're different religions claiming Abrahamic faith and saying they have a connection with Jesus, the illustration says it's Jesus' farm so there are many religions belonging to Satan that's claiming they're connected to Jesus. Any religion that's not saying they're connected to Jesus aren't part of those Jesus is referring to in that illustration after all they're not inside Jesus' farm: having anything to do with the story of Jesus!

the interpretation of the parable of the sower is in the bible and it says nothing about islam. islam is simply one of the daughters of the great LovePeddler of babylon. the closest thing about islam in the bibile is in genesis 16:12, where the father of arabs is described as a wild man. these is referring to his character and that of his descendants, islam is also a fueling factor to their behaviour.

Lukuluku69:
Lol

Well, Daniel foretold the Rise of four Earthly Kingdoms starting with Babylon, Persia, Greecian and Roman. He foretold what will happen to each. He foretold the fatal blow the Persians will deal Babylon, he foretold that a Kingdom set up by God will deal with Persia and consume it, he also said that kingdom will break in pieces these three kingdom.

My little knowledge of history confirms the fate of Babylon at the hands of Persia, it also confirm the fate of Persia at the hands of the Muslims Arabs, how they were converted from Fire worship to Islam,. It also tells me of how the Grecian Empire lost its foothold in the Lands God promised Abraham and how they were thrown out and their Empire was eventually overthrown at Constantinople and the Land taken over by Muslims. The case of Rome and the Roman Empire? In God's hand and for Him only to decide.

Sir, to answer your question, the Kingdom of Saints brought about by the Message of Islam made that possible.

I have searched history and no other version I can see.

Daniel Chapter 2 and Chapter 7 was and still is; Corroborated by the Cold Hard Fact of History.

stop the nonsense already, there is nothing in the book of daniel that speaks of islam.

MightySparrow:
This is even filled with a lot of ambiguities because some scholars are saying Mohammed has nothing to do with Ishmael. His disciples are trying to foist the tribe and Ishmael on him

which scholar? mohammed is an arabian and arabians are half brothers to the israelites who are descendants of abraham. abraham beeing the father of both arabians/ ismaelites and israelites. there is no comfusion here.

MightySparrow:
Good morning brethren. Please re there clear cut prophecies about the rise of Islam? Going true the prophecies of Daniel and Revelations, it doesn't look like Islam is ever implied.

Contributions please.

there is non. but there is one that comes close. and that is referring to the arabs/ ismaelites. genesis: 16: 12

"He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and
everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

Philanderboy:
Wow that's good of you, sir

yes ! he called me using the same format. that his father mistakenly sent 3k recharge card, immediately I knew it was fraud..

Philanderboy:
My fellow students and Nigerians, I'm using this medium to tell you to stop picking calls from any unknown contact acting strange.
The video below was what happened in Alex Ekwueme University, Ndufu-Alike, Ikwo, Ebonyi state.
A student of the University answered an unknown call telling him they mistakenly sent him recharge cards on WhatsApp so he should help them send them back. Series of events happened after that that makes the boy to be vomiting blood. Seems to me this is another method of money ritual.
Watch the video, like, subscribe, comment and share for the safety of all Nigerians.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWlutR1R33U

this is shocking. I recieved this same kind of call with a strange loooking text message few weeks ago, but I immediatly suspected an shouted down on the caller before he cut the call.

FatherOfJesus:
if you show me the curve in this picture, I will agree that earth is flat

keep decieving yourself.

FatherOfJesus:
more zooming, this is like the surface. I bet it's flat to every organisms on it with no brain like you.

even with your zoom I could still see the right and left ends under the stick sloping down. yet this is what you tout as proof. lol , you are advertising mediocrity

chinasaekpere:
I want to learn about flat earth. Lol

its already your reality

FatherOfJesus:
this is like what an ant will see, but because it doednr have a Brain like you, the ant might think the tyre is flat.

your a waste of time. is that stick placed side ways or under the tyre.

FatherOfJesus:
These images should be enough to explain how insane flat earth reasoning is.

The first image shows how a satellite or anything or beyond earth's orbit we capture earth curves.

In the second image, as you zoom closer, the curves becomes less prominent.

In the 3rd images, the curve virtually disappears, just like the brains of flat earth believers.

A flat earther believer sees the last image, so he thinks it's the way it is. He doesn't have the mental capacity to comprehend image 1 and 2. He expects to see the curves even as his reference point is from that of image 3.

If you zoom further, it becomes flatter on the Tyre as you approach the surface but the tyre is not flat.

So ridiculous. I hope emilo2stay gets it

even the so called image you put up debunks your claim. look under that stick at the right side and you see how the tyre slopes down under it clearly showing curvature and does not completely look flat. and this is what you call using your brain. lol what mediocrity.

FatherOfJesus:
This is 4 image showing the surface of the tyre. A microorganism on this surface without a functioning brain like emilo2stay will argue that it's on a flat tyre.
But because I took the image and I have a working brain and I am way above the surface of the tyre, I know the tyre is not flat. But the microorganisms will keep arguing because they are too stuppiddd to see it.

lol at working brain. working brain indeed. why dont you place the object besides the tyre or under the tyre and take a photo lets see how the object will look like it is standing upright.

chinasaekpere:
Funny, so tell me about flat earth

why should I tell you of your own reality.

chinasaekpere:
you are irredeemably stupidddd

useless human beign get lost.

Workch:
😂😂😂

so you got no more proof? can objects moving around a ball remain at the same angle?

Workch:
you must have failed mathematics in waec or probably passed via special centre, little wonder the educational section of the country is in shambles and no one can produce anything meaning with your likes as majority. But I will try to educate you.
In SS 1, there's a topic call geometry. If yoi paid attention in class, you would have known that in the geometry of a sphere, thw whole surface is the up while the core is the down. You cannot feel any down in a geoomerty that has gravity as long as you are on the surface, that's the up.
However, you can observe it if you have a working brain.i doubt you have one but I will try.
Now, let me give you simple experiment, if you have two friends, one in South Africa and the other in the UK, call them on a full moon, tell them to take a picture of the moon and send to you, you will observe that the moon you will receive from each of them will be the mirror image of each other. This is because south Africa is at the extreme south pole with UK is at the north pole, they will perceive the moon different from opposite sides and that's how spheres work.

dont fool yourself. an ant walking around a spherical object will have to face up ,down and side ways at a point. this means different directions ,positions and orientations. meaning the ant will face upwards downwards, and sides ways at a point heck even upside down. this should be our reality on the earth if it was round. take a ball and gum sticks around it on all sides and see if some sticks will not be oriented differently. the saying that everywhere is up on a sphere is nonsense. take the earth for example. have you ever heard of anything like a steep slope?' you walk up and down the slope not up and up.
the fact that we see the moon from opposing sides does not mean that we see them from a curved angel. we can still see the moon same way on a flat surface as long as we stand in different direction. example the chandelier in a big house can be seen from opposing angles even though the percivers are standing on a flat surface. so your example is wrong.

Workch:
So tell me why you cannot see the picture of Burj Khalifa from top of Eiffel tower in France even with thr stringers microscope.
Tell me why you Cannot see cocoa house in Ibadan from union Bank headquarters in Marina.

ever heard of perspective? perspective is the reason objects gets smaller as they move away from you and later disappear from sight. this is not because they are really getting smaller but because of the nature of your eye sight that cannot percive object in far away distance.

Workch:
This is not what gravity says, this is the definition of gravity in 19th century and you Brain is still stuck in the 19th century. No wonder you are a flat earther

you lack defence here mr man. seems you dont know your own beliefs. newton said it is a force of attraction ,if it is a force attraction then why would it change? facts dont chang sp you dont know what your talking about.

Workch:
what is the science of a virgin birth?
Tell me

it is a historical fact.

Workch:
you don't expect an ant on a basket ball to feel a curvature. The any will only observe curvature if he's several meters away from thr basket ball. If you want to see thr curvature, build your one satellites with cameras. Since you don't believe those giving by scientists.

gravity, I cannot be teaching a grown up how gravity works. It was taught in basic science.
the bible is a fictional book, don't learn science and facts from the Bible


You sound dumb here

you are the dumbo. why should an ant on a basket ball not feel curvature? if the ant moves around the ball at a point the ant would be upside down and sides ways yet you think it would not feel curvature , what dumb example!!'

if the earth is curved 8inch/mile square as given by spherical earth scientist proponents it follows that buildings on the earh should not be standing parallel to each other and bridge collumns should not be parallel too, heck even planes would have to account for curvature by dipping their nose down wards at 5min intervals to account for curvature of the earth.

gravity is nonsense found by one man and proven by non. the only proof for gravity is said to be when a ball with bigger mass attracts another with smaller mass. this example has never been seen anywhere in the world .

what you call science is nonsense and the bible is a book that proves itself both in history and true scientific fact. not the nonsense we are taught in school called science. so shut up.

DeusXmachina:
Ok, now that I know your baseline.
This is what gravity is, to put simply is a weak force of attraction everything with mass (you might need to look up the definition mass) exerts, it is directly proportional to the quantity of mass, and inversely proportional to the distance to other things with mass.

Translation: gravity is a weak enough force that you can ignore when studying subatomic particles. But when observing larger parts of the universe, planets and stars it the dominant force. Because things at a large scale exert a more stronger force of attraction because they contain more mass.
And the force of attraction that gravity exerts is dependent one thing's distance to another.

You said "he defined it as a force keeping every thing down otherwise everything floats! if this is true then why do mosquitos fly? why does heluim ballon floats?"
Your definition is very elementary. Yes it is the force that makes things fall to the ground.
Mosquitos fly because earth has an atmosphere (air) and they flap their wings which pushes air down and themselves up, like how when you swim in deep waters you kick your legs pushing water down to keep yourselves afloat, if not you will sink.
Helium balloons float because helium is the second lightest gas that exists. Like trying to mix oil and water, oil being less dense than water will always float to the top, similar with helium gas which will float to the top of the atmosphere, which is held by earth's gravity.

You know things have weight, so have you asked yourself why things have weight or does your thinking not go that deep?

You asked for an example demonstrating gravity. They are satellites in orbit what force do you think keeps them moving around the earth

Do not mistaken your ignorance with common sense fam.

Gravity is as much understood and real as electromagnetism, and I'm sure you use a phone, so can your senses perceive the radio waves that give you a signal?

so now gravity that keeps massive object like ships and tanks plus buildings is now a weak force so weak mosquitoes can easily over come it. you are not talking to some one who abandones their senses to someone else. there is no such thing as massive objects pull more gravitatiinal force, that is nonsense. because no such example in the real world exist anywhere and you know that. otherwise demonstrate it and call me up. I will bet 200k
if the sun is more massive than the earth and other planets then going by what you said all the planets should have been stuck to the earth by now due to the suns stronger gravity. this is common sense and logical. theire is no reason why it shouldnt be that way. any other thing aside that is not true but just an excuse.


you said mosquitoes flying is just like swimming in the water but you forget that objects that sink into the water do not sink because gravity is pushing it down the water but because the objects are heavier than the medium which is water surrounding it otherwise if it was gravity which is a force so strong it keeps everything to the earth would make anything sink into the water.so when swimming the medium that surrounds you keep you afloat. so it is with mosquito, the medium which is air keeps the mosquito afloat since the mosquitos weight is heavier than air. common sense that can be demonstrated and confiemed unlike gravity.

why would you give me examples of gravity in orbit where it is not present. why dont you give me an example here on earth if that is a force keeping us on earth but making satellites float yet it is said to be a force that pulls things down. where did you people keep your senses.

well you just confrimed what I said about helium ball that it goes up because the gass helium is lighter than air. but you did not realise that you also shot yourself on the foot because it is not flying like a mosquito and so it is not overcoming gravity with the power of wings or air which according to you is needed to overcome gravity just like swiming in the water. mr education jut proved me right .

things have weight due to mass and that is why we use kg, tons megaton to determine their weight not determine their gravity. this is what is used in the real world not gravtiy never gravity but gravity is supposed to be responsible and it is attracted to massive things, what nonsense.


no body knew what gravity is until newton and after him no one has been able to prove it. we can see air ,we feel it and breath it and so we need no body to school anybody about air. but when it comes to gravity we point to one man who saw it and felt it. then say it is science and the proof lies in space where astronauts float due to zero gravity lol what ridiculouseness. till today no one has been able to see a massive ball attract a smaller ball any where in the world yet gravity is touted as science even though scientist agree it is still a theory.

you have been giving excuses not facts but every thing I said so far is a real life relatable confirmable fact. you judge whose brain is soup

fear done catch you because you have seen my level of confidence that is why you dug into my profle lol. you never start

DeusXmachina:
Wait, I can't believe it took me this long to realize, you're Nairaland's resident flat earther.

Now everything makes sense. @Maynmann don't waste anymore time with this guy, his brain is soup.

I read through this thread in the past and didn't recognize you here.
https://www.nairaland.com/5993438/amazing-ex-muslims-quotes-sincere-truth/

lol fear done catch am I thought you were reasonable enough

DeusXmachina:
This is a very illiterate framing, that you don't even realize how nonsensical it sounds.
Like asking what is the color of radio waves.

I will engage with you briefly, but I have to know your baseline knowledge.
Can you tell me what you know or understand about Gravity firstly (irrespective of if you think it's real)?
And secondly can you tell me what the "law of gravitation" states?

Before I proceed, or give you an answer.

abeg get out, I am done with you

DeusXmachina:
This is a very illiterate framing, that you don't even realize how nonsensical it sounds.
Like asking what is the color of radio waves.

I will engage with you briefly, but I have to know your baseline knowledge.
Can you tell me what you know or understand about Gravity firstly (irrespective of if you think it's real)?
And secondly can you tell me what the "law of gravitation" states?

Before I proceed, or give you an answer.

I know nothing nor understand nothing about gravity because no man or thing can attest to its existence. but let me indulge you. gravity was first proposed by newton and he defined it as a force keeping every thing down otherwise everything floats! if this is true then why do mosquitos fly? why does heluim ballon floats? in my sense and even yours the weight of an object is what keeps the object down as long as that object is heavier than air every other object lighter than air floats which is the medium surrounding every object. this is a provable fact any can confirm. that is the reason why in the real world we use units of weight like ,kg, pounds ,tons mega tons. these are units of weight which attest to the weight of an object, however for gravity in the real world is obsolete. so much so that air craft pilots are required to ignore anything gravity when they are trained this is a fact but guess you dont know. oga I am more than well grounded on this subject matter. if you have are have any life proof of gravity bring it and pls dont embarrass your self by telling me to go read physics text book because a man is guided by his sense, he needs not read a physics text book to know the difference between solid ,liquid and gas. thank you lets begin.

Maynmann:
Is “air” physical?
Ignorant mofo.
Jewish slave keep pulling jargons from his ass

no ot is not but I can fell it and I can gice proof of it and even the lay man and a child even animals know it real. but prove gravity ,you will need google to do it or point to space and galaxies for proof where it is said to not be present. foolish man thinking yiur arguing with you mate or some one on your level.

Maynmann:
Where is your own “prove” mofo

mufu athiest.

Maynmann:
No, it does not illiterate.
Physics means nature. Intelligent people study and observe nature!

Everyone can see your barreness

mufu is nature not physical? in other words physics hasto do with the physical characteristics of mans environment. mumu wey no fit use his head.