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dazzlingd:
The rapture will eventually occur, and the wonderful christians who accepted and believed in Jesus as their lord as personal savior will be saved and will get heavenly reward of eternal bliss.
On the other hand, several billions of unbelievers who unfortunately never got saved will start their journey of eternal damnation and gnashing of teeth.
People like sisterfire, hardmirror, Ahasco, Seun, all nairaland non Christians and several others.

Let’s assume first day after judgment:

Day 1 : people like Righteousness, jiggaz ,kobojunkie, anas09 and several other Christians made it to heaven. The joy in their hearts. Full of smiles, congratulating one another and tears of joy flowing through their cheeks. They can’t just control the excitement. Oh finally! The war is over and we made it. They will get to meet Jesus their beloved and even get to see the almighty God. It is the greatest achievement a soul can ever and would ever achieve.

MIXED FEELINGS

Then the next thing is each person begin to check around if their closest family member made it, their sweet mum or dad or grandparents, daughter, favorite uncle or aunt, sons, sisters or favorite brother. Imagine someone whose parents or sweet brother died years ago and have been waiting for this opportunity to meet in eternity.
Unfortunately, they have their first heartbreak in heaven, not all their family members of friends made it. Somebody sweet mother is with leiylau burning in hell and screaming in excruciating pains.

Someone sweet brother is with dazzlinggd and biting in hell, or it could be their sweet cousins, favorite uncles, nieces or nephews. They couldn’t believe it. How horrible, the tears of joy begin to turn to sadness.

people like you justify what atheists say about a Christian. you have typed nonsense but think you have made sense.

dont mention people you think Will be in heaven or hell because you are not the gate keeper of either. christ said to the Pharisees that the harlots and tax collectors will enter the kingdom before them. this is a people who think they are holier or righteous. mathew 21:31

secondly no body will look for sweet mom or dad or brother or sister in heaven because every believer is as your mother and father and brother and sisters. mathew 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

and no one will argonize about a lost loved one since we are now all with christ.
mathew 10:37. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

AND LASTLY NO ONE WILL BURN FOREVER IN HELL .malachi4:1&3 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

3: You shall trample the wicked, For they shall be ASHES under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,” Says the LORD of hosts.

Dantedasz:
Who started the subtle abuse? You don't have monopoly of insults. You should stay out of the kitchen if you can't stand the heat. You have been passing subtle insults since we began this discussion. Only one I gave you and you are jumping like a cat on a hot stove.
I am done with you. Bye.

you throw insult not because you feel offended but because you lack logical ,critical and reasonable words to counter or debunk what I said and that is why you resort to abuse. I have told you to come at me with proof and lets see who is deluded Instead you resort to abuse out of frustration.

Dantedasz:
Honestly,you sound like a deluded child. I wish you well. The brainwashing and delusion is very deep. The shackles are very strong. Have a good day.

oga dont resort to abuse. I thought you said you think critically. why not answer me in a critical and reason ble manner instead of putting up a childish silly attitude.

come to me with emperical proof about what your saying and I will come to you with proof of what I say and we will see who is deluded.

Dantedasz:
At the emboldened,
Did I claim to be an omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient,all powerful creator of heavens and earth and all therein?
Stop comparing apples to oranges,please.

God is a father figure and we are the children he must lead us as a father leads his children in love ,obedience and discipline.

you as a father is wiser, stronger and more experinced than your children. and this is the knowledge you use in leading your kids.

so also God who is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient uses that in leading his children.

Dantedasz:
Quite Frankly I don't believe in anything that cannot be empirically proved. Satan,gods,spirits demons, talking snakes,talking donkeys,angels,fairies,organised religion,virgin birth,resurrection, are all fables to me. I don't believe in anything that can not be rationally proven. That is why when I discuss with adherents of religion I quote your religious books to show the folly of religion in all forms.
I know it is not easy to break free from the shackles of religion. In fact I don't get involved in religious arguments because it will lead nowhere except a circular movement.

you are busy talking like a 12year old. the fact that you as a human being exist today is an emerical proof of the creator God who did so in his image. beacuse we humas create and design things. e.g a mercedes benz can be created by humas in a week but can never evolve on its own in a quintillion years.

if you dont believe in a creator God then you will believe in evolution which has no emperical proof as a matter of there is an emperical proof that it is false. so you can see that their is no fence to stand on.

if you dont believe in God ,then how do you think the wprld was created or how were humans and life form made?

if you dont believe in the devil, then why are leaders around the world involved in one occultic practice or the other since ancient times till today. how come this leaders seem not to serve the interest of the people?

there are two masters in this world ,if you are not in the camp of one automatically you are in the other.

Dantedasz:
Like I said have a nice day. When you are ready to view things critically, then we can have a discussion.

you are not even being reasonable neither do you think critically. you just want things to go your way. see let me tell you, you are either on the side of the devil or on the side of God. dont fool yourself thinking that the way you are going now is better than either side nor to think that your standing on the fence. if you are a so called critical thinker please think again. the world is already run by satan and his minions. that is why those who rule the world are deep into occult. go look at the one dollar bill and tell me from your critical thinking what a pyramid with an eye at the top is doing there, a well known occultic symbol. or maybe you can use your critical thinking to scientifically explain it.I dey wait.

Dantedasz:
Are you guys not tired of mouthing the emboldened? It has gotten to be cliche and boring. I am not ready to keep going round in circles with you. Your answers are all typical. I am not surprised because religion is based on blind faith and not critical thinking. Once you start to think critically, you can not be a part of religion.
Have a nice day.

I guess at this point you have ran out of excuse. even you as human, when you give birth to a child you must have a plan and purpose for that child, some times you let them go through some situations in life in other to teach them some life lessons.

the porpose of everything we go through in this life especially believers is to connect and make us recognise our lord jesus christ and to let us know that he is our helper, the one who has enabled us and given us eternal life in this way we will not take pride in our selfs but in him.

satan and his angels were created perfect yet still they rebelled.. you know why? because they do not recognize God as their enabler , they were made powerful beigns just like the gods and as such they rebelled.

[quote author=Dantedasz post=123891351][/quote]yes, he has purposed and will accomplish his pleasure.

Dantedasz:
Please stop feeding me eba,without soup. The simple question is why has an Almighty god refused to destroy Satan but chose to destroy humanity with floods during the time of Noah.
If you don't know the answer it is not compulsory to comment.

everything has its appointed time. like I told you the ways of God is not the ways of man.

if God had destroyed satan then Gods future plan for salvation would not have come to pass and mankind would not have multuplied to what we have today. thus the promised kingdom of God would not come. everything has a purpose and time. Gods ultimate plane is to bring mankind into the kingdom he has prepared even before the world was.

any more questions?

Dantedasz:
ASSUMPTIONS!!!
The simple question is why would an omniscient,omnipotent and benevolent god,leave Satan (to continue leading humanity astray) and instead destroy humanity with floods water during Noahs time.
It is not necessary for you to comment if you don't know the answer,instead of wriggling and turning eba without soup

the ways of God is not the ways of man. satan will be destroyed in his time. men where warned to repent and they refused. a man has the choice to choose what they do. when man sinned in the begining hi eyes where opened and thus making him to become like the gods knowing good and evil. and so man became liable to bear the consequences of his sins, and the wages of sin is death. but God never takes action unlesss he gives out a warning which in this case only 8 people heeded and were saved after 150 years of warning.

a good study of the bible shows the dwelling place of satan. satan is not in hell as many think or as they teach in churches. satan is a spirit who wants to be like God and as such has placed his abode just as God has done and thatnis on high.

the book of isaiah 14:13 reveals the abode of satan...it reads.

" For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north".

this is where satan has made his abode, up in the heavens and so cannot be affected by the deluge beside that he is also a spirit.

paul also spoke of the abode of satan and his host of demons where he refeered to his dwelling place in the book of Ephesians 2. 1-2.

" And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the PRINCE OF THE POWER OF THE AIR, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.""

and also ephesians 6:12 speaks of the same thing where it referes to the abode of the evil spiritual powers of this world as located in the heavenly places.


satan has not been cast out yet, but he knows he will be thrown out because christ has defeated him through his death and ressurection. john12:13.

the book of revelation 12: 7-10 gives detail of how and when this will happen, and what will follow after it which is the great tribulation because Satan is angry and have a short time.

Jacobx007:
Dey play, it appears you never had a relative who was infected, otherwise you won't be making this statement.
Malnutrition, starvation and hunger? You must be kidding me.

did you ever see any body with the so called corona virus?.

DaddyRochie1642:
Interesting,

You are armed to the teeth with knowledge regarding this aids situation.

It just crossed my mind,

I remember the media showing and circulating images of very skeletal individuals tagged to be at the advanced stage of aids, I'm certain you must have come across pictures like that at one time.

What's your opinion on that.

yes images especially of africans who are said to be suffering from aids are actually suffereing from malnutrition , starvation and hunger. like I said before unhealthy life style can cause deficiency of the immune system and when this happens the body becomes weak open to different infections and that is when this people begin to look malnourished. what it takes to revive such is simply a diet on fruit rich in vitamins without any cooked food at all and watch them recover totally like magic in just a few weeks.


that was how they also showed images of manourish people in south africa only for a research group led by gary null to find out that it was false and not as true as reported.
the man gary null travelled round the world especially africa on a fact finding mission and discovered the aids hoax. his video on that has been deleted from you tube. but you can research it .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H03-4q-hVPc
ok I got it.

DaddyRochie1642:
I appreciate this link,

Please, in your previous reply to my previous enquiry, you made mention of "illnesses called aids", ... Are you saying that aids comprises of different illnesses?,... Please explain.

yes. there is no one particular illness that is called aids. what has been labelled as aids are a group of well known illnesses gathered under one banner and slapped with the name aids. that is why in africa it takes just about three or four of this illnesses to be an aids patient because they want to give you azt but in foreign countries it takes up to 6 or 7. reason why some people can be tested and pronounced positive and when they move abroad they test and are labelled nagative. listen very well to the man in that video. let me give you another.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-_HoE-dRv0&pp=ygURRHIgdGMgZnJ5IG9uIGFpZHM%3D

yemobrown:
You appear irredeemable from your writeup. But please, STOP misleading people!

it is you who appear irredeemable. because common sense and reason seems to elude you. prove that I am misleading people. they told you aids came from new york you believed, later they changed it to originate from a monkey in Africa with no single proof till today you still believed. who is mileading you and who is irredeemable ? nah so una go dey mumu for this short life wey una come out.

DaddyRochie1642:
Thank you for time taken in writing this, please, I'll need links to follow up.

listen to dr robert wilner who injected himself with the blood of an aids patient on a live press conference to prove that aids cannot be tranmitted through sex neither is it a virus. this man is talk and do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WFhw5HHHbQ&pp=ygUgZHIgcm9iZXJ0IHdpbG5lciBpbmplY3RzIGhpbXNlbGY%3D

ghettochild:
Make I invite u come south Africa..
Shey you get international passport??

dont be stupid do research. I am sure if this was about football you will not say make I invite you come europe. when will matured men in this country start behaving like adults?

Upcomingdad67:
I agree with you , I saw a video of how they Infested it on black women in South Africa during the apartheid regime. Their main goal is to use it as a tools to depopulate Africans .

the purported claim that south africa has the highest population with aids in the world is false and politically motivated becuase their former president rejected antiretroviral at the advice of a doctor peter duisburg who proved that aids is false.

ghettochild:
You are really crazy ooo

do your research dont be mentally lazy. even if hiv is a virus you can never transmit a virus by sexual act. do you know that scientist do not have a definite definition of what a virus is? according to there own definition even alcohol is a virus. can you transmit drunkeness through sexual intercours? do you know that a virus is defined as a non living thing?. brainless people if person they try to set you free you go dey abuse the person while dragging yourself back to slavery

DaddyRochie1642:
Please tell us your knowledge in details about this

the theory that hiv causes aids is false and political. Even the man kary banks mullis who invented the aids test discovered this truth when he was working on his aids test. Dr robert wilner, peter duisburge , dr tc fry and a host of other medical practioners and scientist have proven and confirmed this fact. There is no virus in this world caleed hiv. Amd the illnesses they have labelled as aids is very curable. They are Not even new as people jave suffered these illnesses aand got cured. What is killing people is ignorance but the number one killer of any so called aids patient is the antiretroviral drug. Yess ,..this drug actually causes yhe symptoms they call aids becauseit terminates your imune system and opens your body for diseases to invade.it a proven fact that the antirotrover kill th e patient trrated with it.

This drug was produced in the 60s for cancer patients but when given to a patient they die off in a short period of time and so the drug was withdrawn and banned, ..yes banned!!. Only for these medical fraudsters to call back the drug in the 80s to be used for the treatment of aids patients who where mainly homosexuals indulging in drug abuse at that time and they died off fast after using these drugs. The medical politicians realised the truth and cut the dosage down so that it kills you slowly over a long period of time instead of a short.

No one can get aids through sex because aids is not caused by a virus but a person's unhealthy life style and drug abuse can lead to a weak immune system.

No medical practioner or scientist have ever seen hive virus in there entire career. Most of them are just following a path set by the authorities they dont even know what they are talking about.


Let me tell you a secret. Aids was first discovered among homo sexuals in new york. But this people have an agenda to kill off africans and black people so they changed the origin of aids to be from a monkey in africa so that they can send off this killer drug in the guise of helping aids patients in africa. But what they are really doing is a master depopulation agenda. Azt is a killerdrug and that is why they give it out for free.

yemobrown:
Keep kwayet!!!
Stop dishing out fake information. HIV is Real and IT IS NO LONGER A DEATH SENTENCE.

Stay healthy and ensure adherence to your medication.

mumu, how can hiv suddenly stop being a death sentence if it is real? they have discovered that people are begining to see the truth that is why they started to say it is not a death sentence.

Abi1985:
Some were born with AIDS virus and some got HIV through sex and so on. Looking at Magic Johnson and seeing that many people are living decades after being tested HiV positive. There is hope today that being HIV positive is no longer a death sentence like in the early 1990s.
I remember when i was small and HIV was news. Everyone was afraid and no one knew how to navigate this new disease. Thanks to advancement in health, HIV can be well managed if the person is taking the anti viral medication regularly. These anti-viral medications will keep the T‐Cell high and the viral load very low.
The viral load is very low that the HIV test cannot detect the virus.
Those who are recently diagnosed with HIV should not fear but make every attempt to stay healthy, keep the viral load very low and even start a family. The goal is avoid unhealthy lifestyle

hiv can never be gotten through sex. that is a lie. magic johnson was able to live because he is not taking anti retroviral. go check out that drug is poison. no medical practisioner has been able to identify any virus called hiv, it does not exist.

richmond500:
This is my state, I wonder why you argue with me, ona problem for this Nairaland is that you people argue too much, even if people tells you the truth, you still find a way to argue.
Also igbos do not make up 50% of Rivers population, stop listening to that nonsense they tell you.

You could be Igbo and that is why you do not see the uniqueness in your accent as others sees it but as a Rivers man, I know when an Igbo man speak and I can differentiate it from an Ikwerre man, it's very simple.

Except they speak their different local dialects, but if the different etnic groups in Rivers state speak English, you can't differentiate it.

it might be ur state ,but I have spent close to 30yrs in this state so I am older than some so called indigenes.

you are wrong if you say that Igbos does not make up over 50 % of rivers people. I have gone round the state and Igbos are in most part as indigenous people alone not to talk of the migrants. the city of portharcourt is filled mostly by igbos even in the very heart of the town Igbos occupies most of it. I know what I am talking about.

an ikwere man does not speak differently in English from an Igbo man or akwa ibo man who lives or have grown up in this town so you cannot differentiate who is who by mere accent. the only people who you can immediately tell where they are from through their accent of they speak english is the northerner .

richmond500:
Rivers has one accent, except immigrants deh form their own accent.
They may have different dialect but when they speak English, the Kalabari, Ogoni, Ikwerre, Opobo all speak English thesame way.
If you go to state offices in Rivers state, you can't differentiate them, but if an Igbo man is among them, you can easily single him out

rivers state does not have one accent, and you cannot differentiate and Igbo man from an ikwere man or clabari man when they speak English in rivers because Igbos alone make up ove 50% of population in the state. rivers state local language is divers and many. when you say accent do you mean the pidgin English or the native language?

Ilamina:
i don't want to be like her

just giving you an encouragement. you can still be beautiful with one hand just like the lady in that movie.

stop spreading false information and doctrine that is not founded anywhere in scriptures the rapture doctrine is a fake doctrine. when Christ comes all eyes will see him.

Ilamina:
Looks like I have to cut one of my hand to survive

How will I feel living with one hand
the process removing it is unimaginable

I am so fccked

I hate looking ugly, I wanna be beautiful all my life

watch the movie soul surfer.

olasaad:
So many people lost their lives to the treatment not the cancer, and the medical practitioner keeps killing people with the poison called treatment all because of money.

your eyes are open.

chemotherapy is poison. no body with cancer who goes for chemo, survives.

Truuth:
The righteous men who lived after Abraham like daniel,david,mekshah, Solomon went to a special place called Abraham's Bosom awaiting the resurrection of Christ as Abraham was their spiritual father.

As for those who lived before Abraham - I don't know.

Wrong! they are dead and in their grave.

Kobojunkie:
1. Abraham’s bosom is simply a euphemism for the grave. And from scripture, we know that the righteous dead sleep in their graves, meaning that they are not conscious, so from that we can understand that the parable of Lazarus and the rich man told of in Luke 16 is indeed a parable.

2. Paradise is also euphemism for the grave where the righteous dead of old sleep awaiting the resurrection. This we can resolve from the conversation Jesus Christ had with the thief on the cross. What is clear is that by his interaction with Jesus Christ, the thief was able to obtain eternal by the standard that is Ezekiel 33 vs 10 - 20. Now the promise Jesus Christ made to the thief afterwards is where one easily gets lost. Jesus Christ told promised the thief that he, the thief, would be with Him, Jesus Christ, that same day in paradise. Well, Jesus Christ died and was in the grave that same day where he remained for the 3 days after. So, the promise was that the thief would die and be in the grave that day as opposed to hanging for days afterwards on the cross, a phenomenon which was not uncommon for victims of crucifixion back even during that time.

false! absolutely false