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OkCornel:
At the point of redemption, God's Spirit takes His rightful place in your life...

No sir. Everyman was given a spirit from creation, it is that Spirit which lies dormant and lifeless (Spiritually). The Spirit of God is what comes in to resurrect the dormant spirit back to life and action.

The Spirit of God connects our own spirits to God, which was what was lacking in Adam. Every man who does not have the Spirit of God in them which comes from Jesus only, can not communicate and relate with and to God.

Jesus alone gives that Spirit, which causes a rebirth of our dead spirits, redemption. His suffering and death earned Him that honour. Do you want it? Then go to Jesus. If you think you can bypass Jesus to go to the father, then you are own your own.

OkCornel:
Before redemption...God's Spirit is more or less dormant in you...just doing enough to sustain your breath to keep you alive.

GNT Ephesians 2:1-2
In the past you were spiritually dead because of your disobedience and sins. At that time you followed the world's evil way; you obeyed the ruler of the spiritual powers in space, the spirit who now controls the people who disobey God.

The Holy Spirit is not inside a sinner before redemption. See the state of a sinner above. He is dead. The Spirit of God is a life giving Spirit. You can't have Him and be dead.

It says Satan controlled them. If they had the Holy Spirit in them, yet they got controlled by satan, it must mean then that satan controlled the Holy Spirit.
For where? E no fit happen.

OkCornel:
He talks to you, but most likely you rebel against Him...

Guy, the only mean the Holy Spirit can talk to a man is through the spirit of that man, but since the man's spirit is dead, how then can that happen?

So, no, the Holy Spirit does not talk to sinners, He can not because man won't hear Him with his physical ears.

OkCornel:
And where did I mention Bhudda as the way to God? Misunderstanding and hasty conclusions/accusations again...

You seem not to know what implictures are. You make statements which are left open to interpretations. You were talking about Truth and light bearers. When asked what truth and light was, you asked if you Bhudda, Enoch, and you, didn't have truths and bore light.

In context, who is the Truth, isn't Jesus?

Who is the Light? Isn't Jesus?

If you bring in Bhudda, what are you implying? That Bhudda too is in the class of Jesus, bearing light and teaching Truth.

Na wao for you o.

OkCornel:
Only the truth shows you the way to God... anything else is a distractions

What is the truth according to you? Jesus, for me is the truth. But, you said you go to 'God' direct, meaning, you don't recognise Jesus as the way to the father, and who also happens to be the truth. Since this is the case, what ia truth?

OkCornel:
Religions around the world always love to give the truth a label they can deify...

God who gave Adam the wisdom, knowledge and power to identify things and persons by naming them is not stupid. Everyone and everything is identified by a name. If the truth you keep talking about is an entity, he or it, will have a name. Forget the religions of the world and tell me WHAT IS TRUTH?

There's something we must clear here. There's Truth every where you go. The Muslims have their version of truth, the Mystics have theirs, Core satanists believe they are the real custodians of the truth, New Agers, the Bhuddas you mentioned, believe they are the truth. Christians believes Jesus is the Truth.

Pls give a name to this truth of yours. If you leave it tagless, it may be deceitful, as you may be meaning something else entirely from what you say.

OkCornel:
So tell me, is God a God of the "Christians" alone...or a Father to All to seek to Him?

@Bolded. He is a father to all who seek him. But that Seeking must be consistent with the methods He had laid down. He says you go to Him through His Son Jesus. If you direct, you can't find Him. He won't break his rules because of you.

He is your Father if you disobey his rules. He takes his rules seriously, as even Him is bound by his own rules.

He is the God, the creator of all, but not the father of all.

Do you know what being ones Father means?

He becomes your father if you obey Him and do as He commands. He is not a father to the rebellious who insults him everyday by their acts. That's why when a Syro-phonecian woman asked Christ for healing for her child, Christ's response tells us that not everyone is a Son or daughter to God. If you are not His son, then He is not your Father.

OkCornel:
You never considered the Lord's prayer through which Jesus taught His disciples to communicate directly with God... so tell me, who were the disciples praying to? Satan?

Wow, this is some twisting of Scriptures.

And Philip said, 'Lord, Show us the Father..., and the Lord said, Philip, have i been this long with you yet you don't know me? Jn 14:8

Who then is this Father whom we shd pray to?

No man cometh to the Father, but by me, because i am that FATHER. IF YOU PASS ME, THERE'S NO ONE ELSE.

I AM IN THE FATHER AND THE FATHER IS IN ME. WE ARE ONE ENTITY.

What is this truth you are seeking for biko, that you don't need Jesus to do it?

Only Mystics boycott Jesus.

nwamehn:
Exorcism itself, refers to casting out of demons, and even in the Bible, they did cast out demons and what they did wasn't called sorcery.
But I do understand where u ar coming from well enough, those verses 7 and 8 of Tobit 6 ar two places I have issues with that book but my issue is different, my issue is with the fact that those verses advocated more for object reverence rather than reverence to the power of God but not that what was done there was sorcery. Angel Raphael kind of made it seem like the casting out of demons or healing the blind is entirely based on how u use the fish heart, liver and the gall, by saying that making a smoke from the heart and the liver would cast out any demons as if the power to cast out demons is in the heart and liver of the fish.
U know, if it's left for the act of burning incense of the heart and liver of the fish to cast out demons, it can't be called sorcery because the use of these material things that kind of sound superstitious to some of us doesn't entirely imply sorcery or magic. Jesus Himself in the book of John 9 vs 6-7 used sand mixed with spit and applied on someone's eyes to heal blindness. Will that be called sorcery too?
Burning of incense was done throughout the Bible till Jesus died and censing wasn't referred to as magic in the Bible.

What angel Raphael taught the boy in those verses to me cannot be classified as magic or sorcery but is more or less like the same object reverence we saw in the Bible where people were using handkerchiefs that have touched Paul to heal people as if the power to heal was in the handkerchief, and we still see same in churches today where church aprons and pastors' handkerchiefs ar believed to be capable of performing wonders.
U can say that the handkerchiefs and aprons ar different because they have touched the anointed of God, but don't forget that it also applies to the liver and heart of the fish which were also touched by Raphael, an angel of the Lord.

Okay. I will leave it at that. But, like a said, corroboration. Scriptures lean on others, but that act in Tobit stands alone.

nwamehn:
Nnaa mehn, u sound like we de fight, but no be fight, pls. Don't ask me whether I read what I typed cos we ar not on a quarrel ground. If u have any disagreement with my view, u can state urs without making it seem like u ar scolding a younger one.

Oh dear, i'm so sorry i came off like that. Pls forgive me.

nwamehn:
First, Book of Kings of Israel is different from 1 Kings and 2 Kings, Book of Kings of Israel was a book from which most of what was contained in 1 and 2 Samuel, 1 and 2 Kings and 1 and 2 Chronicles regarding the kings that ruled Israel were gotten. Even 1 and 2 Kings still made reference to the Books of the Kings of Judah. So, which book in the Bible is the Book of the Kings of Judah? Which other book in the Bible is the Book of the Kings of Israel? Or ar u saying that the books were mixed together to get 1 and 2 Kings, so why would the same 1 and 2 Kings be making reference to them?

Ask google you'd see there are the same. If there are auch books, Google will know.

nwamehn:
Second, Chronicles of Jehu, son of Hanani was a book, part of the Book of the Kings of Israel. Maybe u ar mistaking this Jehu son of Hanani with the Jehu son of Nimshi who was a king of Israel, who killed Ahab's sons. No, they weren't the same person. Jehu, son of Hanani was a writer who wrote Chronicles of Jehu, son of Hanani.

Google will know.

Besides, why do we need additiinal books when we have not been able to live by half of what we are given?
Read Mattew, if i can live by all Jesus taught in Matthew chapters 5 to 8, i will be a perfect human on the earth. I'm atill rising and falling on that. Why shd i ask for more?

nwamehn:
Third, for some reasons I didn't refer to the deuterocanonical books which Tobit, Judith etc ar part of when I was talking about the books which didn't make canonicity. I knew why I referred u to the Chronicles of Jehu son of Hanani which the Bible itself made reference to. Chronicles of Jehu son of Hanani among so many other books didn't make canonicity, thank God u also understand that some of them didn't have prophetic insights but had a lot of literatures and couldn't have all been included in the Bible even though they were scribed by the Jews, meaning that u recognised that some of them were left out for some reason or the other.

Oh yes, i know many write ups were left out. The Orthodox Jews still have them in their Tanakas, but those not necessary for us for we are Messianic Seed, just following the Jewish folklores.

I thought you'd be asking about accounts written by men after the Apostles. The early Church men (Whom the Catholics claim were Catholics, lies), wrote books too. But, based on the cretaria used in selecting which one to be included, were left out.

nwamehn:
My point is not what those other books contained, whether they contained prophecy or literatures or not, my point is that so many of those books were left out during canonization for some reasons or the other, and u ar now giving me the reasons which include lack of prophetic insights, excessive content of literature, lack of Messianic prophecies, etc.

Here are some Creteria used in deciding which book met the target.

1. Authorship--Who wrote the book? Some many chalatants were all over the place that period, hence, not everyone was taken seriously.

2. Local Church Acceptance-- In a community, people are known for what and who they are, that will determine if their words will be used as authority.

3. Recognition by Church Fathers--- Did the Elders then know who the author was, as to vouch for him? Integrity matters, incase there's an incident which may lead to the author being investigated.
4. Subject Matter---This is where the Messianic prophecies, moral teachings and real life instructional guides comes in. Following the Bible we have, you'd agree with me that the subject matter is maintained. The focus is, THE SEED which was to come, and the end of times.

Again, the books in the present Bible corroborated themselves. The New Teatament writers referred extensively to the Old Testament books. But, rarely will you find any references made to these left out books, because they were irrelevant.

5. Personal/Spiritual edificatiin--Does this book builts us spiritually? Is they any morals to learn from it?

Trust me, apart from this book of Jehu you talked about, i have tried my best to read these books and see why they were left out, and judging by the ceteria used, they failed.

Good morning.

OkCornel:
Before you even asked for the Holy Spirit, what tells you the difference between right and wrong? What convicts you when you know you have done something wrong?

God's Spirit has been resident within you and in any man right from his/her tender days...

So you don't believe in the i dwelling of the Holy Spirit which comes into the believers at redemption?

OkCornel:
I told you I converse with God directly...and what was your response? that I cannot do it outside of Jesus...

You converse with which God directly? YHWH or some demon masquerading as YHWH?

YHWH is guided by the rules that be created.

Numbers 23:19 God is not like people, who lie; He is not a human who changes his mind. Whatever he promises, he does; He speaks, and it is done.

John 14:6
I am the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. No man can come to the Father except by Me[/]

How did you get to this God you have been conversing with directly?
Hebrews 1:1-2
[b]God's Word through His Son In the past God spoke to our ancestors many times and in many ways through the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us through his Son.

He is the one through whom God created the universe, the one whom God has chosen to possess all things at the end.

I told you we'll get there. We are almost at the point where you'd say Jesus is not the only way to the father. What am i even saying? Haven't you mentioned Bhudda here?

Shey you don dey see say all the shout about having the Spirit of Truth in you, it's not the Spirit of YHWH afterall?. Hmmm.

OkCornel:
What then was your understanding of God I was referring to... was it not God the Father you were thinking?

He that is called of God speaked and doeth the will of.God. if it's God the Father you meant, you'd go.to.Him through the Channel he decided you go through, not by your own way.

[ author=OkCornel post=65758665]
if your answer is no...then what brought up the "outside of Jesus" stuff you mentioned?[/quote]You, like many occultic or.mystics i have disccused with in tbis forum just declared that you go to father directly sidestepping Jesus.

Meaning, Jesus is not recognised as a mediator.

Anyone who boycotts Jesus hoping he is talking to God, here is who he talks to. SATAN. For, he said...
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isaiah:14:13-14

Satan wants worship and he knows if he goes through Jesus he will never get any worship, so he decieves tbe ignorant to rhink they can worship God outside Jesus.


Bottomline, YHWH will bend his rules to talk to you directly. No one can come to the father, means no one, including you.

How many issues do you want to tacle in one post?

I just gave you and anawer you asked, you are leaving that to others.
What has the Spirit of God striving with man got to do with the discourse?
Anyways...

OkCornel:
1) so what did YHWH do to bring Adam to life?

He took up flesh to enable Him have blood to exchanged His life for Man's through propitiation. God was in Christ reconciling man back to Himself.

OkCornel:
2) What did YHWH mean by "my Spirit shall no longer contend with man...and he shall now live to be 120 years old"

It means, I'm done trying to make man see reasons. Man has no idea that all i am doing is for his own good, since he wants things done his way, so be it. No more longer life like Noah who lived for 950yrs.

OkCornel:
3) What Spirit was referred to in Job 32 v 8; Surely there is a spirit in man, but the inspiration of the Almighty giveth understanding.

Ignored. Next time paste the scripture here. Thanks.

OkCornel:
Is it not the Spirit of God that gives life to a man?

Which man are you referring to you? The New generated man or the fallen spiritually still dead man?

Not every body you see walking about is alive. And, the life here is not material of fleshly life. It's the life of God (Zoe)
Very Few have this life and only the Holy Spirit can give it.

OkCornel:
So who did Enoch converse with?

And what is the role of Jesus as the triune God? or is Jesus no longer God?

Why are you seeing Jesus and God the Father as separate entities despite Jesus saying "I and the Father are one"

Who was Enoch? Is what i asked. Did he have any power of his own outside of YHWH?

You may want to.point me to where i seperated Jesus from YHWH.

You eh![/quote]Pls who was Enoch?

OkCornel:
And don't you have the Spirit of God that would guide you into all truth?

Who or what is tje Spirit of Truth? How did i come about having him or it?

OkCornel:
I have put the definition of truth in my previous post to you...

Enoch, Bhudda, myself and you are children of God...

wait a minute, are you of the opinion that man cannot communicate directly with God?

Outside of Jesus, No. God won't hear you. Except of course it's not YHWH you are talking to.

OkCornel:
This is the confusion that comes with religion or labeling God with names...

It's sad I must say...

Oh plsssssss. You are worst than a religious person, for you know nothing about any of these things.


This thread is this derailed because of you. You dodge answering the questions that will puy us on thw right path but here you are talking about religion.

Who is talking about religion here?

MrBottle:
I have learnt next to nothing on this thread.
I mean I am utterly confused by the back and forth superiority match of my god is bigger than yours contestants.
Ain't funny

The thread is totally derailed. I was going somewhere but Okcornel took that off. I tired and tried to stir away from derailment, here we are.

OkCornel:
Bros, I follow the TRUTH...

I have made my stance on Jesus very clear on this thread earlier on...

Sorry, i missed your stance on Jesus. Pls refresh. What is your stance on Jesus?

OkCornel:
I'll tell you what you want to hear - JESUS

I thought saying God would be explanatory enough...as though Jesus could do anything without the Holy Spirit and the will of God backing it up...

Who is the Holy Spirit?

OkCornel:
The light of God... I doubt if any human being can give out light on their own...talk less of the evil one...

And you have not head that satan presents himself to the decieved as an Angel of Light?

sonmvayina:
The bible is the story of all the Anunaki gods..Enki,Enlil,inanna....and for the last time, they are not aliens, they are spiritual beings...

We have their equivalent in our own traditional religion. It is the nomenclature and the stories man has built to pass this message that is different..

All the Gods are the same..i mean Marduk=Eledumare,=osanobua=jupliter=chukwu= the creator of the universe

Esu=ekwensu=nergal=devil

Inanna=olokun=aphrodite=venus=ishtar=mary the mother Jesus=lucifer= goddess of death and destruction.

The book of the law(genesis-deteronomy) was written by Ezra, this was done when the jews left the babylonian exile, that was when Judaism started taking shape..ALL the information was gotten from babylon..

God took them to babylon to learn and know who the real God is..
They incorporated some stories of the enuma elish in their scripture like the Noah story.

The LORD of the old testament is MARDUK..

Genesis to Deutronomy was written by Ezra after the exile in Babylon? Hahahahahahahabababa

Nothing persin no go hear from these people.

What are the Acts of this Marduk?

Pls poat them here. All of them.

OkCornel:
Quote it here... you are telling me things I already know... and I have moved on from that...

Keep things simple... in very basic terms, this is what truth is - that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality

If you want to bring me back into the circle of idolizing a man to the point of losing focus on the things He lived and died for...please count me out...

If you insist Jesus alone is the TRUTH... Then does that make other men like Enoch or Bhudda or even yourself a liar?


I have gone back and forth on all these question and answer sessions before...and I am bored stiff...

Look at that. Which Bhudda precisely are you talking about here?
And who is Enoch?

OkCornel:
Please tell me, is there another meaning to "All flesh"? Or is the word not self explanatory?

Yes, there's another meaning to ALL FLESH.

There is 'absolutely' ALL and relatively ALL.

There is ALL without exception and ALL without distinction. Meaning, if the ALL used by Joel means Absolutely without exception, everyone in Jerusalem, and Judea entirely, extending to every man living on earth then would have recieved the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost which was evident by speaking in other tongues. The Greeks, Phonicians, Syrians and others nationalities wouldn't be perplexed needing explanations as to the strange occurrence. But, that was not the case, as only 120 persons experienced that when the Holy Ghost came down.

Now, what does the ALL here means? It means ALL without distinction. This means, males, females, children, Jews, Gentiles, This means all classes of peope irrespective of who they are or where they are from. God chose who He wld give his Spirit.

Case in point, Cornelius and his household. He was an Italian who God gave the Holy Ghost, which ordinarily he shouldn't recieve. While in Judea Jews (the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the Herodians), and all others missed it.

What this tells us is that, YHWH chooses who He would give His Spirit. It doesn't matter who they are or what they had done. It's just a gift

nwamehn:
Lol. Boss, u ar kind of dragging it to the extreme naah.

Catholic church, though some of their beliefs contradict with the ones of other present day Christian churches but it doesn't mean u can actually be linking Catholic church with Hellenism. Hellenism is polytheistic and it also believes in magic but Catholic church doesn't.

No, don't compare them with other Cbristian Churches, compare them with the Bible.

Look at them with mirror of the Word of God, you'd see them far from Christianity.

Have you seen Catholic priests carrying out Exocism? I mean casting out of demons. They copied from the book of Tobit where the said Angel Raphael taught Tobit to use sorcery to cast out a sex demon from Sarah. If that is not Magic, i don't know what is

Pls read Tobit.

nwamehn:
Boss, I really don't know why u were laughing, or don't u believe that there were some other books that were written then which were not finally canonized? Even some books in the old testament were not included. 2 Chronicles 20 vs 34 [b]says that all the acts of Jehoshaphat were written in the Chronicles of Jehu, the son of Hanani, which are recorded in the Book of the kings of Israe[/b]l, so tell me, which books ar these Chronicles of Jehu and Book of the Kings of Israel?
They were books written then at the same time that other books were written but could not be canonized for some reasons or the other.

Did you read what you typed? Did you go to 1Kings and 2Kings and you didn't see the acts of Jehoshaphat or Jehu?

Most of the acts are repeated in the books of Samuel, Chronicles and Kings. Go and read pls and stop looking for what is not lost.
Sir, pls find out why these books were left out. Did they meet the cretaria for Spirituality?

Inside the Catholic Bible which i have a Copy are those other books you are talking about.

Maccabees 1&2. These were books recorded events which took place during the reign of Alexander the Great's 4 generals and how they were very cruel to the Jews and how the Jews fought back.

The Reason for which the Catholic Church holds firmly to this books is because, it gives them validity to pray to the dead and pay money for the soul of their dead loved ones to enter heaven, as opposed to the warning of YHWH against Necromancy.

Judith- The events in the book of Judith contadicts other books. For instance, we are told that Nebuchadnezzar took the Jews Captive for 70 yrs, but Judith says, that didn't happen as she cut off the head of the Army General and all other soldiers ran away leaving the Jews alone.

Tobit (Sorcery). An Angel Raphael lied about his identity to Tobias. And later taught Tobit to practice sorcery. Can an Angel from YHWH do that?

Sirach, Wisdom, Baruch, Daniel and Bel, your own version of Esther.

These writings can not corroborate any other Bible book.

They have no prophetic insights. No Messianic projections. There are just plan litteratures, and if all literatures shd be added because the Jews wrote them. Hmmm. E go be wa.

OfficialAwol:
No.

The Catholic Church is simply trying to prevent further misinterpretations that has followed the Bible.

That's why they were skeptical about letting uninformed minds read the Bible in the early days until Luther's revolution.

You and I will agree that letting Evey dick and Harry read the Bible brought aberrations

In other words, the Holy Spirit who is the voice of God in print, the custodian of the Church is not Capable of preserving this Word abi?

Do you know that this is exactly how the Bible was locked away from people until a Priest by the name of Martin Luther discovered it?

The Funny thing is, the Catholic Church intended to lock the Bible away so that they can comfortably replace Hellenism (Grego-Roman Pagan worship) with Christianity

The ones accusing others of error are the Masters of error. They claim she is the First church, but wouldn't follow the teachings of Christ. The Claim they gave the world the Bible, but won't practice what is written therein.

The Queen of Heaven you worship as Mary is Ishtar, the notorious female demon, the wife of Baal/Molech. You people blatantly worship this demon but deny any worship of her. Even when her status are every where and you guys bow and make prayers to her.

Do a little research, you'd discover that the Modus Operandi of the R.C.C is consistent with the Hellenistic Pagan religions, but far from Christianity.

Her priests and priestesses are celibate just like in Hellenism. But, no female was ever a priest in Judaisms and in Christianity, the other of the priesthood ended with Christ taking the place as an eternal High Priests.

Where did you people see infant baptism?

We can go on and on.

MuttleyLaff:
Why dont you want to be tagged a Christian?

I agree 110%, with this statement

"Anyone does not have the life, Christ died to give,
will go to hellfire"
- © Emmanystone

Dont you think what Emmanystone wrote up there,
is quite different to your "anyone who is not a Christian would perish in hell" version?

What is intrinsically wrong with you being called a Christian?

Why should, in the first place, should the name, Christian bear any significance to me or anyone?

What mess, what or which people?

I disagree with this statement because Christianity is about invented truth
Rarely, discovered truth, rarely make religion out of the truth

What did Jesus live and die for?
What are the missed out on the things post Jesus?

Give a comprehensive list and examples of what are the power of God manifested in the life of Jesus and the Apostles that you think, seems to be lacking majorly in the church today

Yeah,
confirm whether or not, Christian simply means LIKE CHRIST and not a religion

This guy go just run.

nwamehn:
Roman Catholic wasn't the first church, I agree.
But, Roman Catholic being a false church, may I know why u say so, boss?

Put the Catholic Church side by side the Hellenist religion, it will be like looking into the mirror.

OfficialAwol:
It would be difficult for you as a lay person to get access to those books.

But all the same, check any Catholic seminary library you know, that's gonna be your sure bet.

But again I doubt you will be granted access except you are a priest or a Seminarian.

Meaning there's something the Catholic church is hiding abi?

nwamehn:
Mehn, what a good response!
Pls, I want to ask u a question, do u have any link to where someone can get those remaining 50 gospels of Christ u talked about, I have been trying to lay my hands on the other books of the new testament which were not canonized but to no avail.

CuteMadridista:
I'm shocked Emmanystone is not allover this thread

This guy must like me.

OkaiCorne:
Oh great...it's now derailment since I've answered you...

Cool

In what way have you answered my quesrions?

OkCornel:
God has been revealing Himself to man...and not just the Jews alone...


Just as how the fallen angels have been revealing themselves to be God as well...


Do you get it now?

I already know that, but you won't know when a fallen Angel is masquerading as YHWH because you don't know who He is. You think He can manisfest Himself as differrnt entities, which is a big lie of the devil.

The LORD HAS ALWAYS AND WILL ALWAYS REVEAL HIMSELF AS THE LORD TO WHOEVER HE CHOOSES TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO, JEW OR GENTILE.

OkCornel:
So if you knew all of this, why is the Elohim stuff causing you to raise alarm?

So you knew the Hebrews adopted Elohim and Elyon as names of God abi?

I'm alarmed? You still can't it can you. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO YHWH is, this is my point

OkaiCorne:
The outpouring is on all flesh...

It is now your choice whether you yield to the Spirit of God to work in you...or you refuse it...

Note: this is my alternate moniker...

Why then does some people have the Holy Spirit but some don't? I guess you don't kbow what All Flesh means.

OkaiCorne:
You cannot get YHWH or Enki's age from Genesis or Epic of Gilgamesh...

Enki is a son to Anu...but does anyone know YHWH's father? I guess not... YHWH is uncreated and a son to no one...

Unless anyone else has a contrary opinion...

Where did you see me mention the ages of these beings?

Na wao. You can derail.

OkaiCorne:
Oh great...it's now derailment since I've answered you...

Cool

You have not answered any thing. I have to stop you from going any further with your tactics.