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OkCornel:
What is my business with Anu?

You don't have any Business with Anu, i only wanted you to see or know that Anu is not YHWH and that YHWH had never manifested Himself in any other form but the LORD.

All are demons who had been there when God created the Universe but run off giving the similar accounts to those worshipping them, u fortunately he kept missing very vital details. Could be because he was too much in a haste to be the first to publish his account, he ran off missing some details.

Bros, YHWH hasn't changed. No man had ever encountered Him and misunderstood Him to be some other deity, then and now.

Muslims who had never been ministered the gospel too, see Jesus and know straight who He was.

Balaam the Soothsayer encountered Him and knew immediately who He was.

CuteMadridista:
both are imaginary. no need for this dick measuring contest

And you are?

live4dgospel:
What do you mean if you miss rapture don't accept the mark of the beast? There is only one rapture for saints, anyone who does not partake in the first resurrection will not enter the Millennial Kingdom and the New Heaven and Earth, but will surely be resurrected in the second resurrection only to eternal damnation in hell.

Pls expand on the bolded.

Shalom

OkCornel:
And what exactly did I do to deviate from this thread's discussion?

Anyways, y'all can have fun. If this was my agenda...then I wonder why I was invited to the thread in the first place...

I invited you because i thought you knew who YHWH is with all the shout about 'The Spirit of Truth', unfortunately, I was wrong.

Those that know their, they stand firm and do exploit. You don't speculate.

OkCornel:
Food for thought...

Yahweh revealed Himself to the Hebrews such as Jacob, Moses, Abraham...e.t.c.

If this same God revealed Himself to an Indian man...or an Arabic man, would they record the name as Yahweh OR rather document the meaning of Yahweh in their mother tongue?


I went back and forth with Emmanystone on this... for example, who is Olodumare to the Yorubas or Chukwu to the Ibos?

Did you mean Chineke?

OkCornel:
It's sad... so you are implying you can pass off Satan as God even when you have the Spirit of God in you?

All because you couldn't tie down God with a name?

Anyways, [b]since you mentioned that if their acts are the same, then there was no need for us to go back and forth on this...[/b]

Did i say their Acts are the same? I said you shd present Anu's Acts let's scrutinize them and see if there are the same with that of YHWH.

Sir, he who has the Spirit of God doesn't need to sing it as you are doing here. Talk and we shall decipher it.

You are not even sure of who YHWH the God you claim to have His Spirit is, hence, you speculate that He could be Anu revealing Himself to the Sumerians as such. You even said He could further reveal Himself to the Indians as another god.

This shows that you don't know your God. If you truly have His Spirit, you'd know that He reveals Himself as the LORD to all and His Acts will be Consistent with Words.

Wonderful....

OkCornel:
By sticking to the bigger picture is this...

There are numerous accounts of the creation story which points to the fact that a Supreme Creator was responsible for the design and existence of earth as we know it...

It is our duty and purpose to be in constant communication with the Supreme Creator moreso, being that His Spirit exists and powers the very existence of man...

Your bigger picture here seems to be the general believe that since Anu created the Universe according to Enuma Elish, and YHWH created the Universe in Genesis, Anu is YHWH the supreme abi? Pls eh, stop with the 'If you have the Spirit of truth', because he who has the Spirit of Truth is certain of what is.

Compare the two entities and see if there are the same, as you still imply here that they are the same.

OkCornel:
The writer of the Epic of Gilgamesh could have been inspired by God or by a fallen Angel to see far into the past...

It's not about who tells you the first version of the story that automatically means it's 100% truth...

Like I mentioned earlier...if you truly have the Spirit of Truth at work in you, you won't be confused by excess details...

Hahahahahahaha. You make me really laugh with this your 'if you have the spirit of truth'. You have the spirit of truth yet you can't see that Anu is satan in disguise, you are still speculating that he could be YHWH. Hahahahahaha. Do you also know he has soooo many daughters as goddesses?

OkCornel:
Tell me what I do not understand about tithing?

That Christians have to tithe to be blessed? Abeg I no wan laugh for here...

This thread is not about Tithing sir. Take it somewhere else

OkCornel:
Separate me from ifeness and tell me where I mentioned Annunaki is YHWH...

I am waiting for you to show me where I mentioned Annunaki is YHWH

You implied it and i asked you some questions, you still insisted by telling me if i had the Holy Spirit i'd have known.

ifenes:
I will put all that on my own thread. Have a look tonight when I unload real knowledge, it will be a waste on here.

You mean i shd abandone this thread and come to yours when you could just post those points here?

OkCornel:
Going by the bolded... Pastors that fall astray and preach/practice false doctrines (e.g. Obligatory monetary tithing)...are they not Christians too?

Pls don't derail thia thread with your misunderstanding of Tithing.

There lots of Tithing threads here, mention me there and we shall discuss that.

OkCornel:
Ask ifeness for the attributes of Anu and YHWH...I'm not in for all of that...

A child ought to know his father if he truly wants to know who his father is...

I wonder how you claim to have the Holy Spirit that would lead you into all truth and yet that same holy spirit cannot reveal the one and true God to you...

You still need names and labels to identify the one true God? Quite interesting...

Oh, He reveals Himself to me alright, that is why i can't mistake him for shiva or Anu because they are all gods.

OkCornel:
Not until you do some research...

The fallen angels introduced ancient religions around the world, bearing a lot of similarities to the worship of the one true God...

Names like El, Elion e.t.c. were used in pagan worship by these malicious entities...

Like I mentioned earlier, it takes calmness and patience to listen to the Spirit of God to guide you away from these deception...

Also bear in mind that the Devil knows the Bible just as much as you do, so do not rely on the Bible alone as your defense...it's the Spirit of God that makes the difference...

You ran ahead of me, for this is where i was leading you to.
Satan masquerades as YHWH presenting half truths to them and they believe him. That is thw same mistake you have been making here by saying YHWH manifests Himself by different names in different cultures. That's the lie of satan who want men to worship him as YHWH.

OkCornel:
Nope...

However, the links above and archaeological findings reveal that the Epic of Gilgamesh was written before the book of Genesis...

That's my point.

Whether Moses copied from the Epic of Gilgamesh is none of my business...because I wasn't there when and how the book of Genesis was written...

In other words, you don't believe YHWH. Yet you insist on having the spirit of truth in you?

Okay, since Epic of Gilgamesh was written before Genesis, Anu has to be the Aupreme God right? Where then is he today? Only in the pages of books.

OkCornel:
Genesis 4 v 26;

And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.

Please do you know this name by which the ancient men in the days of Enos called upon God Almighty?

Were these ancient men Hebrews too?


If you carefully read and understood the post I made in reference to fallen angels establishing ancient religions around the world, then you wouldn't type what I just bolded in your post...

Always in a haste to assume things I never said...I have asked you to mention where I said Annunaki is YHWH...you haven't replied. Now you are saying I am one of those people saying Allah is YHWH...

Please and please, don't tempt me to embarrass anyone here...

You asked this

OkCornel:
Could Enki be the manifestation YHWH before the Hebrews came to be?

I am asking if they could be one and the same entity...or otherwise

I said no, unless their Acts are the same.


Then you said this

OkCornel:
The Almighty One decides to manifest Himself in whichever way He desires to...it's just that due to our limited abilities to perceive the limitless, we are fixed in our definition of who He is...

We are limited to describing Him by the part He deems fit to reveal to us...

I've gone beyond the label of names to identify God...and I keep things simple that way. Trying to label Him with a name would be the beginning of confusion...

This is where you implied that Anu is YHWH

Again, you said 'If you focus on the names, labels and contradictions, one can get confused along the way...

Sticking to the bigger picture makes things easier...'

Who needs another explanation to know you passed off Anu for YHWH?

My point has been, let's ascertain these deities by their Acts, but you refuse to even look into that. Why?

OkCornel:
It seems you are not patient enough to get the message I am passing across...

God is not a God of the Hebrews or Christians alone...He is the Creator of all, and chooses to reveal Himself to whomever He deems fit...

In addition to Job 32 v 8; read up Genesis 4 v 26;

26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.


Before YHWH was known in name, men worshipped and knew God... I have read Exodus 6 v 3 you have been brandishing in my face, now answer my question, before Abraham...please tell us the name God revealed Himself to right from Adam to the days of Enos...is there a name anywhere?

It's irritating when someone tries to make a point and you see it as pointless and meaningless or as escaping your questions. Calm down and see things from the other person's point of view. I am not here to argue needlessly biko...

And for the records, deal with me separately from Gayjesus or anyone else!

Pls compare this And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
Genesis:4:26

And this And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD:
Exodus:6:2
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
Exodus:6:3

May be you will get an understanding that the LORD has a particular way he appeared and dealt with those He had led as the LORD.

He never changes. If he is the LORD to you, He'll be the LORD to me. Tha is why He was the LORD to Moses a Jew and was the LORD to Job a non Jew.

OkCornel:
Like I mentioned earlier, try not to get lost in the labels and names. Playing the name and religion game profits no one here...

There was something Elihu mentioned to Job and his other friends which you should take note of in Job 32 v 8;
But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

God has been talking to and revealing Himself to men and not just the Jews alone right from the ancient times...

That's the point I'm making here...

Pls answer his questions and add if this God who reveals Himself to men other than the Jews changes in his Mode of Operations.

I need to know because people like you are those who insists that Allah is YHWH and make lazy Christians worship satan.

YHWH has His ways whether or not he deals with the Jews, hence i asked you earlier where you found the account of Job(?). Was it in Vishnu or Koran? Isn't it in the Bible?

Good used Cyrus for His work in rebuilding the Walls of Jerusalem burnt down by Nebuchadnezzar. Cyrus was a heathen king. God used Nebuchadnezzar and later, Alexander The Great to fulfill His prophecy of destroying Tyre and Sidon, were they Jews? No. Where did we find these men? In the Bible. Were YHWH's acts in the activities of these men different from those we know in the midst of the Jews?

If Shiva claims she is YHWH will you not scrutinize her by her acts before believing that she indeed is YHWH manifesting as a goddess in India?

MuttleyLaff:
0"Food for thought" questions and/or explainings to do:

#1) It 'll be great, you explain what name Yahweh revealed Himself as, to the Hebrews, in particular, such as Abraham, Isaac and Jacob

#2) Then, convincingly explain the meaning and implication of Exodus 6:3
Why did God, literally, in Exodus 6:3 say:
"by My name, YHWH or Yahweh, not did I reveal Myself to them"

#3) Now, explain from your understanding what the tetragrammaton, YHWH or Yahweh, explain means?

#4) OK, to what end and purpose, is this same God, differently, revealing Himself, with another name, to the Indian man... or an Arab...?

#5) About "meaning of Yahweh in their mother tongue",
please explain and give a list of the other names in their mother tongues, revealed to "the Indian man... or an Arab..."
that carries same substance, reality and panache in meaning, as the name, Yahweh or YHWH, does

PS: Please, no half hearted and/or ineffectual five answered responses
and no evasions or sidestepping any of the five questions

Very good.

OkCornel:
You need to step up your research so we don't have to go back and forth on this issue...

Based on research done by history scholar and archaeologists, the earliest estimated date when Epic of Gilgamesh was written (which is based on the oldest existing forms of the poem found on cuneiform) was around 2,000 BC...you can go through this link to confirm;

http://webpages.uidaho.edu/engl257/Ancient/epic_of_gilgamesh.htm

While the earliest estimated date for when Genesis was written is 1,290 BC. You can also confirm vis this link;
https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_678.cfm

Also feel free to do your research to corroborate or counter this...

Cheers

You think i have not already read those links?

Pls sir tell me, did Moses create the Universe?

OkCornel:
All these names are of little concern to me...

If the Spirit of God works in you, you can differentiate the Almighty from the others...

Just as the Apostles of old did...

Okay, i agree, lets leave their names out, Now present their Acts.

How many times will I have to say this nau?

OkCornel:
Food for thought...

Yahweh revealed Himself to the Hebrews such as Jacob, Moses, Abraham...e.t.c.

If this same God revealed Himself to an Indian man...or an Arabic man, would they record the name as Yahweh OR rather document the meaning of Yahweh in their mother tongue?

So YHWH will reveal himself to indians as Shiva instead of YHWH? This is the thing.

OkCornel:
Please tell me what I have overlooked...

Kindly explain where you misunderstood me...because I do not understand the basis for this hasty conclusion

You overlooked their Modus Operandi, that is why you insist they are the same entity.

You said, it shouldn't be about their names, but how do we identify them if we overlook their names? If you don't know your name, you can be called anything.
Without identity the value of a thing will be lost or worst still misplaced.

The Noun God is a title not a name, hence every deity has a personal name and their names reflects what and who they are.

Most importantly, their Acts. These gods have ways they act, demons may pretend to be YHWH, but slow down and scrutinize, you'll catch them masquerading as YHWH. Sadly, so called Christians accepts them as their God.

Bros, you can not just pass off YHWH as Anu without making sure they Act in the same way.

So, i ask you again to pls present here the attributes of Anu, let me present that of YHWH, with these, we can compare and contrst.

OkCornel:
Then you do not have the Spirit of God/Truth working in you...

This is what happens when you see God through the eyes of religion...

If you truly have the Spirit of God in you, then you won't be typing this fear of worshipping a Demon in the place of God...

Can you ask God for bread and get stone in return? Why do people fear the deceit of darkness over the power of TRUTH?

Pls don't fall my hand here, abeg.

So if i have the spirit of God that is when i will accept anyone who presents me with any god saying it is YHWH? You just presented Anunnaki to me as YHWH, ad far as you are concerned i shd accept it like that before i will be a Christian according to you?

Who is even talking about religion here?

How do you know a man? Isn't it by what he does? How do you know a Christian? Isn't it by what he/she does? Is it by what they say they are? Haven't you seen Satanists presenting themselves as Christians, shd we accept them as such just because they claim it?

You said God manifests himself in different ways, which i didn't object to, but for you to say Anu is YHWH is for you to present the Acts and Ways of Anu juxtaposing them with that of YHWH, with that you can see if indeed they are, for YHWH is unchangeable. Except you say He changes.

ifenes:
Read the Enuma Elish, it is the oldest creation account. Read for yourself if you want to know. Google it. I was going to say a lot about it until one of you made a nasty comment.

Pls don't send me to read anything. The Op says present your points here, it doesn't say, direct people on what to read.

What does Enuma Elish say? Present it here.

Since i joined this forum i have watched you act like you actually know what you are talking about, that's because no one has really taken time to tackle you.

Pls present all about Anu, whom you claim is YHWH here. I'd like to know that Anu is my God.

ifenes:
Chill with your god, Yahweh/ Annunaki god. I don’t have time for meaningless debate

This is not a debate, it's a discussion which you are trying to derail.

Why you copping out is because you know so well you'll be grinded to dust if you attempt to present the characteristics of Anu here. Even you will see that you have been claiming that YHWH and Anu are the entity in error or you know but deceitfully pass it on.

If you know from Enuma Elish that you believe so much in, that Anu is YHWH, then you won't waste time but present the proves here.

Gayjesus:
A god you have no personal knowledge of. Where is the god today ?

Do you have personal knowledge of Enki you believe in?

Gayjesus:
What is the point of this thread if you guys feel you already know it all. To learn you need to be empty.

No wonder billionaire did not bother commenting

Asking where is Enki now, where is your god now too

Jesus is here changing lives and transforming destinies. If i don't know for others, i know for myself.

You believe in Anu, what has he done for you? I can begin to count what YHWH has done for me and people around me.

Gayjesus:
Nice. I laughed when he said gilgermesh copied Moses, I just chose to ignore

You laughed Becos you are ignorant. Moses wrote the first 5 books of the Bible, because of that you believe the Epic Of Gilgamesh preceeds Genesis, question for you now is, did Moses create the Universe?

ifenes:
The discussion is pointless to me and I have discussed this Anunaki thing many times on Naira land. I want him to bring all he has and I will see if it’s worth my reply. Otherwise I really don’t care.

I am not about who Anu is, you brought that up, so pls present his attributes. I never even mention Anu.

OkCornel:
You'll confuse yourself further when you work hard to give God a name...

Just stick to the simplicity that He exists... but if you want to play religion...then you'll end up confused as many out there...

And limit my replies to me alone...don't bring ifeness or anyone else into the picture...

If i follow you, i'll end confused worahipping a demon masquerading as Jehovah. They are not known by their names, but by their acts, but you have over looked that.

Moses is a bible character and you are not sure he existed either. Stop talking as if you know the bible. These are stories that happened thousands of years ago.

I’m not going to argue what I know with you okay ? Genesis is about Genetics and the story of the Anunaki and various ways they manipulate their slaves until this day. I referred you to The Enuma Elish to read more that’s all, and also for you not to be a man of one book. Genesis or the bible is to reduce the Anunaki to a one god which is pure mind manipulation. This is a discussion I will rather have with enlightened folks, not for arguments

If you think I’m chatting shitt then that’s fine. I have nothing to gain trying to tell you Anunaki/ Yahweh are nothing but reptilians. If you continue to worship Yahweh or Jesus that’s on you.

The worship of the Anunaki are in various forms, look up the dollar bill and see for yourself. Reptilian gods worship all over the place.

Knowledge comes by you finding it out yourself.[/quote]That is why you the enlightened one is here to enlighten us the non-enlightened.

You are just here and there. What you are talking abouy is far from the Op. Can you face the Op?