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profolaolu:
Christian living is not hard when you surrender totally to Christ and not struggling, Apostle Paul when he was still struggling, was wailing in Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?, but when he surrender his will and self to Christ he said in Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me and in Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

I guess i don't know your spective of hardness used here.

What i understand by hardness here is not abiding by the instructions given to us to abide by. Hardness here means the daily life of a Christian in the world's system.

The Apostle Paul you quoted said that regards his days as a man without Christ trying to do Gods Will in the energy of the flesh as a Pharisee, not under the influence of the Holy Spirit.

Sir, when it comes to suffering in the hands of men or enduring hardship in the world's system The Apostle Paul suffered more than any Christian can ever suffer. His life was hard.

The following verese arrays my understanding of the Op.
2 Corinthians 11:23-29

[b]Are they Christ's servants? I sound like a madman—but I am a better servant than they are!

I have worked much harder, I have been in prison more times, I have been whipped much more, and I have been near death more often.

Five times I was given the thirty-nine lashes by the Jews; three times I was whipped by the Romans; and once I was stoned. I have been in three shipwrecks, and once I spent twenty-four hours in the water.

In my many travels I have been in danger from floods and from robbers, in danger from my own people and from Gentiles; there have been dangers in the cities, dangers in the wilds, dangers on the high seas, and dangers from false friends.

There has been work and toil; often I have gone without sleep; I have been hungry and thirsty; I have often been without enough food, shelter, or clothing. And not to mention other things, every day I am under the pressure of my concern for all the churches.

When someone is weak, then I feel weak too; when someone is led into sin, I am filled with distress[/b]

This is hardness of Life to me.

Again, here Apostle Paul.

Hebrews 11:35-38
Through faith women received their dead relatives raised back to life.

Others, refusing to accept freedom, died under torture in order to be raised to a better life.

Some were mocked and whipped, and others were put in chains and taken off to prison.

They were stoned, they were sawed in two, they were killed by the sword. They went around clothed in skins of sheep or goats—poor, persecuted, and mistreated.

The world was not good enough for them! They wandered like refugees in the deserts and hills, living in caves and holes in the ground.

Life on earth is hard for a true UNCOMPROMISING Christian.

Thoniameek:
The Christian life isn’t hard...

Really? Try walking away from the old ways of doing things and try doing things by the book. Try reading Matthew chapters 5 to 8 and do everything it says, then come back and say again 'The Christian Life Isn't hard'.

It is not going to church but retaining all you knew before. Nothing changes in your speech, dressing, attitudes, dealing with the system of men.

Understand the principles of Kingdom and try applying them to your daily living and see. Jesus says stop asking for food, clothes, houses, cars, but only be concerned by what advances His kingdom. Love (Note, dont expect to be loved back), Win souls, forgive (Dont expect to be forgiven back).

The Ways of the Kingdom are opposite of the ways of the World's system.

When every one is going towards the same direction, but you look at the Bible, it says, don't go with them. See how your own family will turn against you if you refuse to.go with them.

ifenes:
Cos it’s fake news

Pained. You rather believe Enuma Elish. Why not propagate it and just get along with your life?

Jesus is alive, Changing Lifes and Transforming destinies. I am a specimen.

winner01:
okay I'm sorry, I only wanted to show you a worse reason for murder than religion.

Are you atheist?

Winner01, you have been away for too long. Well this is the new self acclaimed radical atheist in the block.

butterflylion:
This your mouth

Speak the truth and shame the devil.

mubbyzhe:
1 Samuel 15:3 " Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ ”
That was God in Bible instructing Samuel to kill and destroy. So if someone says, God of Bible is the Satan by your definition, is the person wrong

Who were the Amalakites?: Amalek was the son of Eliphaz and the concubine Timna. A bastard son of Eliphaz, the grandson of Essau, the brother of Jaccob whom he had with Timna, a prostitute from Arabia.
And Timna was concubine to Eliphaz Esau's son; and she bare to Eliphaz Amalek.
Genesis:36:12

Just like Hagar the prostitute taught her bastard son Ishmael to hate Isaac, so also Timna taught her bastard son Amalek to hate Jacobs Children.

What did they do to incur the wrath of YHWH?[/quote]Then came Amalek, and fought with Israel in Rephidim.
Exodus:17:8
The Israelites didn't even know anything about the Amalekites as they had been in Egypt for 430yrs, but immediately they left Egypt into the wilderness, witout any privocation, the Amalekites attacked them from behind killing the old people who could not keep up with others. The Amalekites kept troubling the Israelites just like the Arabs are still troubling them till tomorrow. This incurred YHWH's wrath.

For how long did YHWH wait for them to repent of their evils?
A generation is 100yrs. Now let's count and see how many yrs YHWH endured waiting for the Amalekites to repent from their evils. For 1,494 yrs, YHWH endured, but the Amalekites grew arrogant just like the Muslims are arogant today because no one is killing them back.
But when enough was enough, vengence was taken against them.


Do you expect no retribution or consequencies for your actions?
So, will you call God wicked for avenging the evil of the Amalekites?

What did the Jews and Christians do to the Arabs to be hated so much? From Ishmael to Amalek, to Muhammed to you. Why do you hate the seed of Isaac so much?

Will you call God wicked if He avenges your evil against the Christians in Nigeria today? Now you people believe no one can stop you from killing Christians, but their God is watching.

mubbyzhe:
This is an excerpts from https://www.quora.com/Does-God-mean-Allah-in-Arabic-speaking-Christians. To support Woody Ghsoubi 's argument that Allah is the Arabic word for God, it is worth mentioning that even the Bible in Arabic uses the word Allah. For example, here is Genesis in Arabic

Now answer this sincerely. Do the Arab Christians worship allah in the Mosques, bowing down towards Mecca? Do they pray 5times a day? Do they do oblationes? Do they use the koran as their guide? Do you think lies will take you to Allah's paradise?

Why have you not said YHWH is the Almighty God and there's no other God but Him?

mubbyzhe:
(http://www.copticchurch.net/cgib... ). Look for the symbol ﺍﻟﻠﻪ from the right hand side and you should see it. It matches the English, "In the beginning, God made .."
Also, consider the phrase "Eloi, Eloi, Lama Sabachthani" that Jesus allegedly says in Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say... ). According to many scholars, this comes from the same root word (in Aramaic) that the word Allah comes from.
So not only is it the word used by Arab Christians, it is also possibly similar to the word used by Jesus himself."
Stop the lies man. Eloi doesn't mean Allah. It means Elohim. Eloi means 'My God', not allah. @ the bolded tells you a lot. Stop lying. Don't make me flood this post with too much points.

[quote author=mubbyzhe post=66005432]There are many more explanations on that, google is your friend, go and educate yourself.

All the trash you posted there doesn't say allah is not satan. Allah is satan, a blood sucking demon. Muhammed was a demon possessed man who was placed under a curse by a witch doctor. Can a prophet of God be placed under a curse?

He was cursed hence, a very devious sex demon possessed him. He could look at a six yrs old baby and desire sex (Oh my Lord!!!!!). He could actually have an errection while with her.

He was a blood thirsty murderer a coward could not stand rejection. The Jews discovered he was a fraud so rejected him as a prophet, he pretended to make peace with them, but on Sabbath day, when he knew no Jew will raise a hand up in defence, he rounded them up and in one day, he killed 900 men, excluding women and children, taking slaves of the young girls.

He had sex with a girl he captured and killed her husband the same day she got married.

The Part of Hellfire Muhammed will be put is under construction, it hasn't been built yet.

Arondizuogu:
Judaism shadow of Christianity? Damn!!!

YES.

butterflylion:
That's why for all monikers for adepeter to choose from or create he chose the one with Satan.

If you are not light then you are automatically darkness. No middle ground.

Sons of perdition fitted for destruction.

butterflylion:
Did I ever doubt you?

Take away God and what is left?

Satan

butterflylion:
He is.

Now you take me serious when i say atheists are satanists abi?

butterflylion:
adepeter2027 this is quite a huge leap. From atheism to lucifers first son.

Even your typing manner has changed. Are you having personality issues?

Adepeters is Lucifer1stson? Hmmm. We are getting there.

budaatum:
The word according to me, buda.

Good News Translation Revelation 21:8 But cowards, traitors, perverts, murderers, the immoral, those who practice magic, those who worship idols, and all liars—the place for them is the lake burning with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

If those words are yours, then you are free from this^^^

budaatum:
The word according to me, buda.

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mubbyzhe:
Where is your evidence that Allah is Satan?

Satan came to kill, to still, and to destroy. Have you read the koran? You'll see the acts of satan in it.

You don't know someone by what he says he is, you know them by what they do. As Jesus says 'By their fruits you shall know them.

Look at the fruits of allah in the actions of his worshippers.

mubbyzhe:
Did you know? Arabic speaking christains call their God Allah. Why? Because Allah means God in English...

Be educated and stop being deceived. No Arab Christian calls Jesus or YHWH Allah. It's a lie. Except they are like the foolish Christians here in our midst who believe allah is the same deity as YHWH. Those who know don't do that.

mubbyzhe:
Now, which Allah (God) is Satan? The Jew Allah?

To start with, 'God' is a common noun. A title given to any thing which is worshipped. Title like Chief, Mr, Doctor etc. You can't claim that every doctor is James, because James is a doctor.

Every 'God' has a personal name. Allah is the god of the arabs, YHWH/Jehovah is the God of the Jews and Christians.

No where will you find a Jew refer to their God as allah, and you will never refer to YHWH as Allah. If you can do that, do it here and now.

Say, YHWH is the Almighty God and there is no other God but YHWH go ahead and say it.

mubbyzhe:
Muslim Allah? Christain Allah? Yoruba Traditional Religion? Igbo Traditional Religion Allah? Hausa Allah?

You so lack knowledge. Allah is not Chukwu, allah is not Olodumare, Allah is not Ogun, or Abasi, or Osanobua. If he were, he wouldn't be all over the place murdering people to establish his religion. Get knowledge and stop the deceit.

mubbyzhe:
and thousands of other Religion Allah? Which one and how do we know that's the absolute truth?

Hahahahahahahaha. Can you see how silly this your claim is? So allah is all those other deities in the world?

Now, here is how you know that allah is a name of an arabic deity. There's no where will you find a Muslims referring to their god as something else other that allah. Tell a muslim to.call his god Mazda lets see.

In Germany it is allah, in Rome it is allah. In America, in Lagos, Calabar. Israel, Congo. Allah is allah. And, it is worshipped in the same manner. Like the moon god in Persia/Babylon the today's Iran/iraq was worshipped.

Bowing to the ground with their bombom facing up. Rising up to face the direction of the statue of the idol.

Allah is Hūbal, the moon god in babylon. It was called Baal and Moloch, in Israel he is the same Anunnaki in Sumeria, and Allah by Arabs when only Muhammad's ancestors worshipped it.

Go and learn what your religion is.

Allah is satan and muhammed was his agent.

tartar9:
Say: "Shall we tell you of those who lose most in respect of their deeds?

They are those whose efforts have been wasted in the life of the world while
they thought they were doing good.

They are those who deny their Lords signs and the meeting with Him. So their
works are in vain, and We shall give them no weight on the Day of
Resurrection.

Quran (18:103-105)

You can be as 'holy' as you want,if you fail in your primary duty,the reason you were created-to worship Allah.Your works are in vain.


The world does not revolves around humans-you are here for a greater purpose than merely being nice to your fellow humans.

Oh Plisssss, Tartar, shut up. allah is satan.

vaxx:
I will burn in Hell forever. I will be punished forever. I am the worst creature on planet. Even if I die, no one must wish that God have mercy on me.

No, I did not kill any child. I did not rape anyone. I did not bomb, shoot, loot or cheat anybody. In fact I always followed the law. I never committed a crime of hate, passion or greed. I took care that no one is harmed by me. I paid my taxes. I did my job honestly. Sometimes in name of God, sometimes in name of my ancestors, I made charity to poor and orphans. When boko haram shot and kidnap about 133 children in chibok .. I mourned as if I lost my own family.

My deadly crime

But all this does not make me a nice person. My crime is far worse than anything else you can . That is why, God will still forgive a rapist or murderer but will never forgive me.

Do you know what my heinous crime is? It is IDOL WORSHIP.

My crime is that I see God in idols. My crime is that I go to shrines instead of mosque. My crime is that I pay obeyance to ogun, sango , osun and the nist supreme olodumare

No I am not joking. In eyes of a very dominant chunk of world population, my crime is the worst crime of humanity. They believe that I am the most disgusting creature on earth.

Hate in name of religion

I am called a Kafir which is an abuse that means ‘a disgusting person who commits most wicked crime’.

They say that their Holy Book tells that idols-worshipper is worst of creatures.

Now I don’t care what their Holy Book actually says. I don’t even know the language of their Holy Book. I assume that any religion teaches only peace and tolerance. And hence their religion must also be no exception.

But what worries me is that the entire community leadership is unanimous on this hatred. They may differ on how to deal with a wretched person like me on earth. But the moment I die, all agree that I must not be called “Marhoom” – one who gets mercy of God.

They will not participate in my festivals. They will not pray for me when I die. They will always consider me most disgusting.

Come what may happen, whatever be my good deeds, no one will say that I can also be blessed with Paradise by God. Even if I die saving life of an idol-hater, even if I selflessly dedicate my life to humanity, I will still burn in fire of Hell.

Ask him where Muhammed is right now if not in hell.

The koran says any muslim man who gets killed by a woman will go straight to hellfire. Aside from all the sins and crimes muhammed committed, he died in the hands of woman, Safiya, a Jew.

She poisoned him with goat meat. Muhammed is in hellfire.

budaatum:
So, I, who has done the work writing it in the first place, should now go back and dig it up for you?

To be honest, I wouldn't mind, normally, but just not for you considering how you are quick to affect my tiny sensitivities, and how you react to similar opinions.

Just pick through any thread with atheism in the title and you'd see the same sentiments expressed, or, wait till someone more deserving of my time turns up and read my responses then. I will bear you in mind, I promise.

The question is, so that what will happen nah? What is the import of that?

budaatum:
Yes! All gods are human creations, myths, at best.


Shows the limits of your ability to comprehend, I suppose, or you might offend me by calling me a liar!

In the story you mention, I said I go up into the heavens to bring down light. But I am very certain that you don't think I literally went there. Or do you?

How am.i calling you a lait nah? You told me a story with all amount of sincerity because you wanted me to.know you well know what you were talking about, but here you are calling calling gods the figment of people's imaginations.

Did you lie about your story? Did you defy your communities deities and walk away unhurt?

Your story shows that, even as you claim to be an atheist, any day you go home, you bow to those gods and do what is expected of you as a Bashorun.

Why do you do that, after all, you are now an atheist and those gods don't really exist.

Why do you talk the midnight walks?

budaatum:
Sorry. If you remember, that nice woman in church? I am not into converting others to atheism. As the word says, seek (for yourself) and you shall find, and you shall be free.

Which word says that?

budaatum:
Go read some of my old posts and you will get a response to your question.

Wow. See work wey this man want send me.

Why not.just.post it here? After this tiring day, i shd go digging for your old post, so that what will happen nah?

budaatum:
You just fail to see the point of view of others. If you did, you would understand that from my perspective, you are asking me to engage in discussion with you about a thing I have claimed I see as a figment of your imagination created by you in your mind. What more do you want to hear? Ask you to prove your figment is real, maybe? Subject it to pirate flagism?

How did you get to the conclusion @bolded?

budaatum:
That's the conclusion of your learning from me. You will become an atheist if you learn.

Give it a shot. I'm willing to see how i can become an atheist.

budaatum:
If you wish to discuss with me, you will please stop imposing your definitions on me. I do not lack belief in gods. I claim gods do not exist. Do note that they may not exist and one can believe in them anyway.

Gods only exist in the minds of those who create them. They don't exist outside the minds of their creators. That is my opinion and the reason I am seen as an atheist.

@the bolded. You mean as your ancestors who Bashoruns and you too, created Ogun, Obatala, Orunmila in your minds?

because, you narrated to me who you are your place or position in your community.

Except you are saying you lied about what those deities can do. If you lied, why will you tell such a lie?

Seun:
Talking about God without specifying the God you’re talking about is not really meaningful.

“Let’s talk about the Country. Remember we are not talking about Nigeria, Israel or Saudi Arabia. Just the Country.”

Not really meaningful.

But if i come in here talking about YHWH, you'd leave YHWH and bring in all the 5000 gods in the universe. Today an opportunity has been given to you to discuss the concept 'God'. Give it your best shot.

butterflylion:
Emmanystone, muttleylaff I need you here. I think my thread has got our brothers stuck for lack of a specific "buffet" to feast on.

I can hear crickets chirping.

Lol

olabrad:
Who is laughing about anything now? I was telling you that you quoted the scriptures wrongly and you are saying someone is laughing.

Even your comment doesn't have any bearing or relationship with what I wrote

You must have quoted from the satanic Bible.

And, which scripture did i quote?

olabrad:
It is the Antichrist that will rule on earth for 1000 years. Don't confuse facts.

Even if the Antichrist rules for 1000 yrs, can you compare that to the eternity in hellfire? At least you can be consoled that 1000 yrs will come to an end someday, but eternity?

Guy, these things you laf about are not funny.

JastSiryin:
*claps* Bros what brand of weed do you take?

E go clear for your eye when you realize say no be weed the guy take, by then e dey too late for you.

Evil is ahead of you. The demons inside people will leave them, then there'll realize too late what they wld have done.

lasmile:
Blind mystic Baba Vanga 'who foretold 9/11 and Brexit' also made a chilling prediction about Russia and Vladimir Putin

Prophetess Baba Vanga is famed for her predictions, many of which have come true with eerily similarity.

The Bulgarian psychic, known as 'Nostradamus from the Balkans', has foretold many natural disasters and global wars before they happened.

And, despite the fact that she died in 1996 aged 85, she left a couple of clues as to what we could expect as 2018 rolls around.

It has emerged she has predicted that Vladimir Putin and Russia will dominate the world, the Birmingham Mail reports .

In 1979, during a meeting with writer Valentin Sidorov, Vanga said: “All will thaw, as if ice, only one remain untouched - Vladimir’s glory, glory of Russia.

"Too much it is brought in a victim. Nobody can stop Russia.

"All will be removed by her from the way and not only will be kept, but also becomes the lord of the world. ”

Britain is currently embroiled in words with the Kremlin following the poisoning of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia on British soil.

Prime Minister Theresa May has given 23 diplomats identified as “undeclared intelligence officers” seven days to leave the UK, a move which Russian ambassador to the UK Alexander Vladimirovich Yakovenko describes as “absolutely unacceptable” and a “provocation”.

Meanwhile the Russian embassy has told Britain it should not threaten a nuclear nation.

Before her death, Vanga predicted glorious future for Russia once more, the Daily Post reported .

According to the Bulgarian clairvoyant, Russia will be the world’s only superpower.

She also made a chilling prophecy about the use of nuclear weapons and World War 3.

Blinded after being picked up by a freak tornado as a child, Baba Vanga - born Vangelia Gushterova - believed she had the ability to foresee the future. She reportedly made hundreds of predictions in her 50-year career.

She shot to prominence after accurately predicting the sinking of the Kursk in 2000. Her millions of followers believe she had paranormal abilities including telepathy and being able to communicate with aliens.

Her numerous predictions about world events and the state of humanity have become infamous, including claims she predicted the rise of ISIS and the fall of the Twin Towers.

Specialists have since calculated that 68 per cent of her prophecies had come true - slightly less than the 85 per cent claimed by her followers.

What else did she get right? And what does the future hold according to the mystical seer?
The Kursk nuclear submarine disaster

In 1980 the blind prophetess predicted that in August of 1999, “Kursk will be covered with water and the whole world will weep over it.”

Kursk was a Russian sub that Sank in the Barents Sea on August 12, 2000, killing all aboard.
9/11
In 1989 Baba Vanga said: “Horror, horror! The American brethren will fall after being attacked by the steel birds. The wolves will be howling in a bush, and innocent blood will be gushing."

On September 11, 2001, planes hijacked by Islamic extremists hit the World Trade Center in New York, killing thousands of people.
China rises
According to the prophetess, China will become a world power in 2018.

She’s probably out a few years here as China is already an economic and military powerhouse.

We’ve also apparently got a change in the earth’s orbit to look forward to some time before 2023.
A golden age
A new energy source will be created and global hunger will start to be eradicated between 2025 and 2028. A manned spacecraft to Venus will be launched.
Ice caps melt
From 2033 to 2045 the polar ice caps will melt, causing ocean levels to rise. Meanwhile, Muslims rule Europe and the world economy is thriving.
Cloning cures most diseases
The rise of cloning allows doctors to cure any disease as the body is simply and easily replaced.

The US will launch an attack on Muslim Rome using a climate-based ‘instant freezing’ weapon.
Red and green
Between 2072 and 2086 a classless, Communist society will thrive hand in hand with newly-restored nature
Mars attacks!
A LOT happens from 2170 to 2256, including a Mars colony becoming a nuclear power and demanding independence from the earth, the establishment of an underwater city and the discovery of something “terrible” during the search for alien life.
Time travel
Some time between 2262 and 2304 we’ll crack time travel. Meanwhile French guerrillas fight the Muslim authorities in France.

The "secrets of the moon” will be unveiled.
The end of the earth
From 2341 a series of natural and man-made disasters render our home planet uninhabitable. Humanity escapes to another solar system, but resources are scarce and wars are waged as a result.
Going backwards - 3815 to 3878
Civilization has been destroyed and people live like beasts until a new religion rises to lead us out of the darkness.
Immortal alien hybrids

From 4302 to 4674 the concepts of evil and hatred have been eliminated, humans are immortal and have assimilated with aliens.

The 340 billion people scattered throughout the universe can talk to God.

The end of all things

In 5079 the universe will end.

Source: https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/blind-mystic-baba-vanga-who-12208429.amp

There's nothing here that the Bible has not already Prophesied thousands of years before she was born, yet men will rather believe a psychic instead of God.

If i were to take you down the Book of Ezekiel to give you these prophecies, you would insult me and call me a sheep. But you'd rather believe someone whose prediction may be similar not accurate.


God (YHWH) through His servants had long prophesied about Gog and Magog and their contributions to the future collapse of the society.

The Center will round up in Israel. Watch.

Naijadrillz:
Please don't get reckless with your mouth
I only asked for advice and the best you could do is forming holier than thou.
You haven't answered any of the questions posed to you
You just go dancing around the subject like a virgin contemplating sex for the first time.
Everyone has got his or her battles, you inclusive
I'd appreciate you dont make fun of my situation and just bounce along since you've got nothing to offer.
Am not trying to be rude
Thanks

We no dey fight nah. Okay sorry.

Like you said, we all have our struggles, and you are right. We just tilt towards different directions seeking solutions. I guess we have different energies. Again, i'm sorry i intruded into your struggles.

Am out.

PAGAN9JA:
Every tribe in Nigeria has traditionalists.

That's true.

Naijadrillz:
Thanks for commenting but I'd rather not waste my time reading some book that i know in the end won't make any difference.
Do you know how many frustrated people are there in those churches??
I want to see a different result so I've got to do things differently.
What's your definition of Satan??
You recommended me a book . How has the book helped you?? Do you have a personal relationship with God? Can you prove such??
If you do then it shouldn't be a problem telling me more about things my 5 senses cannot resonate with.
Don't put me on a religious pedestal. I've been there and done that.

Thanks anyway

There's no need giving answers to the questions you asked since it won't make a difference.

For the records, if i don't have a testimony i won't be recommending it. Anyways, good luck.

Satan worshippers will always tell you there's no satan, but i wonder who or what is troubling you. Could it be GOD? Hahahahahahahahahaha. Wow.