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CultureRe: New Member From The Land Of The Ancient People. by emofine2(f): 4:01am On Mar 20, 2012
[quote author=Ta_Xasa]Hahaha I am learning. smiley[/quote]Lol I said little by little we’ll get there smiley

You see the whole Idea of this is If Egypt is proven to be a black Civilization then it would mean That 5000 Years ago Black People actually were cradle to alot of things that was invented, People don;t relaise that In egypt itself The people in the south calls The northerners Forigners, They don't even Accept them as Egyptians as in a sense of Real egyptians.
I actually suspect that if the predecessors of Ancient Egypt had been non-black then the manhandlers of history would have been more willing to admit to a few dark pharaohs.
Christianity EtcAfricans And The Concept Of One God by emofine2(op):
Although polytheism was largely practised on the continent but later rendered redundant; being accused of primitiveness and idolatry there were also Africans who believed in the concept of one god long before the introduction of the imported faiths. Yet many Africans remain averse to the traditional religions.


In a continent hosting an abundance of gods yet apparently all wrong according to the verdict of presumptuous outsiders equipped with weapons that would later voluntarily show us the “true God”, how then could it be possible for some Africans to adhere to the seemingly “right” concept but “false god”?
Alas, traditional religion on the continent was not even given a fair assessment for one to conclude prematurely that our ways was “wrong”.


Could not the being in which ‘believers’ call “God” manifest itself in contextually relevant ways to all people?

Could not the being in which ‘believers’ call “God” reveal the truth of itself to Africans prior to the arrival of the missionaries on the continent?

Why do “born-again” Africans believe that in order to connect to this being called “God” one must have to go through a Jewish Persona?

And if there is “one true God” should not the deity of African monotheists also be considered in the running?
CultureRe: New Member From The Land Of The Ancient People. by emofine2(f): 9:16am On Mar 15, 2012
[quote author=Ta_Xasa]Too excited, at the moment i laugh More than Learn from the words. soon i will put my Learning cap on and try to pick up few words. smiley[/quote]Okay o, small small we go do am grin tongue

Yeah, The thing is they Hardly convert anyone whether they are catholics,orthodox or Muslims. so sometimes they resort to childish ways and its abit worrying when you consider Eritreans In general are abit conservative No matter what religion they are. so it doesn't sit well with many people.
I remember watching a mini clip about some evangels in Africa (it was quite a long time ago though) – I think they were trying to convert a subgroup of the Fulani’s. The Fulani’s generally are Muslims anyway but the way these people went about trying to convert them was really disgusting.
This group of Fulani’s they were trying to convert were rather quite undernourished so they were taking advantage of their predicament by offering them bread as long as they accept Jesus.

What a devious and disgusting way to convert anybody (smh) . . .I didn't even watch it to the end though but I doubt they succumbed.
But that episode made me wonder about the type of methods used to convert and why are some people so desperate to convert.

I didn't know that, I thought he was full swiss.
His mother is Afrikaner. I think he’s even set up a charity foundation in South Africa. smiley

London? how was it?
London is cool except that whenever there’s the world cup going on some English fans instantly transform (one of the reasons I’ve never lent my support to the England team) grin embarassed . . .Now the Olympics are round the corner - but with other sports apart from football English fans are pretty tame and sober – that’s why I can easily support England for rugby or something but not football.


You would Love south of egypt, apart from Those African american Groups who actually Think they are decendents of Pharohs and Bowing to every statue There But the local and the History Is very good.
grin grin

you would be shocked When you see the large Pharohs temples and you would Bet your Life they were African and black, If you do make sure you Visit Hatchpsut Temple you would be Amazed of how proud she was of her African Identity however the tour Guides wouldn't be very happy to translate alot of the Things there for you because alot of it is linking them to being African and black, If you get a Nubian Brother or a beja Tour Guide he/she would even take you into Area's Not allowed For Vistors to show you How black and african were they.lol Visit Djoser Pyramid also I swear he looks 100% nigerian i always thought the first 6 Dynasty of Egypt Might have been Related to Today Nigerians/west africans. You would Love it.
I wonder why there is much concealment in Ancient Egypt’s History. Too many biased people have interfered with this history to the extent of withholding information. Maybe I shouldn't even be surprised really seeing as Egypt is often hailed as the greatest civilization – maybe some people don’t want such accolade linking with African black people because it challenges those often held stereotypes about Black Africans. That’s one of the reasons why I believe some black Americans are so invested in this civilization. The more certain things are deliberately covered well people are going to suspect the motives here. I’ve always thought ancient Egypt was diverse so if certain pharaohs were darker then that shouldn’t be kept a secret for fear of crushing the egos of some bigots! And because of this unfortunately Ancient Egypt’s has become a subject of an on-going racial debate.

That’s why I think history is really important to the esteem of an individual. Why would some people try to omit other people’s place in history? Because if one doesn't know where they come from or what they were before they wouldn't have much to aspire to or know where they are going.
Reminds me of certain civilizations in “sub Sahara Africa”. Like Great Zimbabwe and the sculptures from Ile Ife. Even in an environment surrounded with black Africans there were people still trying to claim otherwise, and that black Africans were not responsible or even capable of such civilization. I actually find such behaviour quite embarrassing really. What are some people afraid of to go to the extent of snatching and deleting other people’s history?

Oh and I do agree with you. I bet I would love it smiley

lol Visit Djoser Pyramid also I swear he looks 100% nigerian i always thought the first 6 Dynasty of Egypt Might have been Related to Today Nigerians/west africans.
BTW do you have any pictures? or links?
Some groups in West Africa claim lineage to Ancient Egypt or Sudan.

That is what i am researching Now... Especially Seth. seth was a noble man In ancient times and Many followed Him, he resided in The land of canaanite, Now some beja clans claimed to have come from Cannan, According to Early Greek Explorers The canaanite and ancient Egyptians shared the same Langauge/looks and Culture. Beja and ancient Egyptian today is 70% The same, im not talking about words im talking about sentences, If you read ancient Egyptian scripts a beja would understand It. Now there is something here as Seth Lived in canaan and some of the beja followed Him maybe later elevated Him to god status, Ta-seti which means land of seth directly But it means Land of the bow because Beja or setians were known for their archery Skills. the New kingdom Dynasty who came from Ta seti Introduced seth an the main god and named one of its army Brigade seth. Beja Language and ancient canaanite is almost identical and canaan Means Nomads lol You can't get more Nomdic Than the beja people.
Does this Seth correspond to the Biblical Seth? Adam and Eve’s child?
Canaan means nomad . . .I read somewhere that the Somali-Canadian musician name – K’naan – meant nomad. I don’t know if that data was correct though or if K'naan is indeed a word in Somali.

About Eritrean Writing Its basically Ancient Egyptian with out the Leg/Head etc. Its very close, It seems that it was Adopted By Eritreans Through a middle Source, Either meroetic Through Ta seti or the more Likely Himyarite Through canaanite. The writing has been recorded In eritrea for 4000 Years, so we know the source and few possible Channels but Once we start digging for the pre-axumite artifacts we should come to a conclusion.
Interesting. So that means part of the East – well at least the Horn of Africa is linked to Ancient Egypt?

Check out How close some of the Letters are.

http://hieroglyphalphabet.com/

"you first pronounced a word and utilized hieroglyphic letters to spell it out"
This reminds me of mandarin. I asked a Chinese guy in my class if he could spell my name in mandarin and he first asked to hear the pronunciation of my name and I was thinking – don’t you want the meaning of my name first lol. Well that was pretty interesting but even when I told him the meaning he found it hard to capture it in mandarin as opposed to how it's pronounced.

http://hieroglyphalphabet.com/

"Now that the hieroglyphic language has been formally matched to Amarigna and Tigrigna, of today's Ethiopia and Eritrea, it is clear to see that the hieroglyphic alphabet was meant to represent pronunciation. And by understanding the pronunciation sounds of the Amarigna and Tigrigna languages represented below, it is finally possible to properly speak and read the languages of the Amara and Akele founders of ancient Gebts (the ancient name of Egypt).
. . . .the hieroglyphic alphabet represents pronunciation of sounds in both Amarigna and Tigrigna"
I remember once you said that Tigrigna was a semetic based language. Is Amarigna also semetic?
If so does that mean that the hieroglyphic language is also semetic?
So basically the hieroglyph alphabet is a translation of a particular sound/pronunciation?
CultureRe: New Member From The Land Of The Ancient People. by emofine2(f): 2:25pm On Mar 14, 2012
[quote author=Ta_Xasa]Yep and that is how on easy way to Track ancient people and where they might have migrated. In Eritrea there was Many different Gods depending where you lived, In East Sudan Northern Eritrea gods Like Anubis/Seth were the main one's depending on the Time. Further south they worshipped The moon/sun and spirits as well. Today The animist In Eritrea are the a small Population of The kunama who worship their ancient God Ana, while Majority of Kunama are Today Muslims it was Easier for them to become Muslims Because theY WORSHIPPED one god "Anaa", some still today worship spirits among the Kunama, and others Mix islamic and Traditional beliefs[/quote]By the way could you elaborate on the ancient gods - Anubis and Seth? What type of role did they play i.e. sun god etc.

Also did some Eritreans know how to write in hieroglyphs or perhaps a similar pattern?
CultureRe: New Member From The Land Of The Ancient People. by emofine2(f): 2:16pm On Mar 14, 2012
[quote author=Ta_Xasa]I just Love How The africans play around with langauges Full stop, and i would love to learn the west African Version of it it does sound Fun to speak it.[/quote]Lol. The more you frequent this site I can guarantee you that you will pick up a lot of pidgin. That’s how I learnt mine even grin
The thing is I can’t really speak it because of my accent – my accent is too light so it makes my style of delivery redundant in my opinion embarassed but I can read and write in it. So if you like, I can teach you a bit lol. I think it’s fun to speak too I’m just conscious of my accent.
Yeah I agree with you, I love the play on words. The manipulation is very interesting and entertaining.

My Kunama Is really Bad But Kunama Means from what i Understand "Coming from Different Directions" as in Ka Means North i think, when the Kunama came To Eritrea Thousands of Years ago they Came in waves and from different Direction from the Nile Valley and entered Eritrea from Different Area's and Gathered In Eritrea again. Every Tribal Name In Eritrea apart From Blin means Nomads/wonderers In their Native Language. That is why The camel In Eritran Emblem to reflect however/whenever you came To Eritrea This is your Home Now.
Oh I see.

It's Just the pressure of Neighbouring Tribes, If you look at History Many People around the world converted to abrhamic Religions for convienent or pressure Rather than 100% conviction from the khazarians Turks In asia to many african Tribes, Kunama Location weren't The best at times, surrounded By Beja/Tigre and Nara who by then fully converted to Islam The kunama who were Mostly Farmers Knew Title Change would give them Breathing space, and The kunama who Converted were/are those who are Bordering The other Tribes, 100-200 Years ago wasn't like today, Tribal Aggression was Open and if your Neigbouring Tribes were not Muslim or Christian you were a target for takeover/Raids Because it was allowed under the pretext of epanding the religion Etc. Nowadays is different Africa is more calmed especailly when it comes to Religion conversion, Yes you have conversions But its done with other means like Preaching or Engaging with people to bring into Faith. Not Raiding the whole Tribe and forcing Anymore. In Eritrea Conversion Hardly Happens Now except for maybe 2 or 3 every Year which is low approaching people to preach is a taboo
and many evangelists and Pentecostal has been Kicked out of the country Banning Most of them, The reason is While Trying to convert 10 or even 100 the methods they use could end up Creating a rwanda style massacre there because they tend to cross the Line Many times with their conversion methods, example is Targeting Little Kids as young as 9 Years Old coming back from school and trying to Hand them Crosses and Bibles, what happens when they get Home and a mob of 1000 people come out with their Horses and Swords waiting for these Preachers, Not a Good sight and the governemnt Is sick and tired of bailing them out so they decided enough is enough and Kicked them out for disturbing the harmony and respect that exist in the country, I don't have a problem with preaching the religion However Not kids all kids wants to do is play and have fun wait for them to grow up.
Lol @ getting tired of bailing them out. But I find trying to convert children kinda sneaky so I understand your point.

Yes He was, I should've Known it too It's easy To Pick Them Nilotic People, If you press the Right button they would Pop like popcorns.lol
Lol grin

Who is half south african?
Federer’s mother is South African even though Federer identifies himself as Swiss.

lool English Fans would turn from "Against Racism" activists to "Neo-Nazi's" after a beer session at the pub.
Lol and I live in England lipsrsealed

you would Love it, especially for a Nigerian you would Relate to many things, Reading about lagos always remind me of cairo the hussle and Bussle of everyday Life, Plus i found That Nigerians always spot the egyptain Trickery before the Egyptian has even thought about it, lol But sight seeings and Holidaying is very good There.
Well generally Nigerians are alert grin

Yep I think there’s much to explore in Egypt, I can't wait to visit the land of the Pharaohs smiley
CultureRe: New Member From The Land Of The Ancient People. by emofine2(f): 10:17am On Mar 14, 2012
[quote author=Ta_Xasa]I am Looking into it Now. Very Interesting. I love West African Cerole English, especially The Liberian/Sierra leone.[/quote]cool It’s even very easy to learn

Correct. You got it Right.
Lol I love that saying.

Fulani People have something which is very good, They are loyal to the land where they reside no matter where they are, That quality Earns them respect, n In Eritrea there is a poverb that Eritrea Chooses you Not the other way around.
I’ve never actually thought about it like that or in those specific words but now considering it, it does seem to ring true.

Here is all the Info of Kunama Traditional Belief.
Thanks for that link. I loved every single word and sentence on the introductory page. That was brilliantly articulated. If only more Africans could think like that.
By the way is the word Kunuma a derivative of their god Anna?

I ask because I was studying some of the words on that site that alluded to god i.e Annam koske or Annam aneneke and “Annam” appears slightly similar to Kunama. Or maybe I’m just grasping at straws.

You said earlier that Kunama were monotheists which made it easier for them to adopt Islam. I’ve also heard similar stories about other African groups who claim that conversion was easier due to certain similarities with their native beliefs and the imported faiths which just makes me think. . . . shouldn't those similarities reaffirm such people’s conviction in their god if commonalities can be traced in other cultures. I just didn't understand that reason for converting. If that’s the case then maybe the messengers of Islam and the Christians evangelist in Africa should have converted to some religion on the continent by that same token. undecided

To tell you the truth I think the group In eritrea are more Fulani than Hausa But since The hausa are Linked with the fulani In west africa Many people presume its the same in east africa.
Interesting.

By far The fulani are more Known, Infact Any eastern African apart from sudanese who hasn't been on the net would know Fulani but would have No Idea what is hausa
Interesting. I wonder how the Fulani has acquired more fame than the Hausa – is it because of their nomadic nature?

In saudia arabia and the Gulf Countries all black citizens are Known as the Unofficial Title "Fulani", when you see the majority of the saudia arabia National team who has western african Features they are all Known as Fulani Regardless of their background. Fulani would be the most recognised west african Tribe In arab country especially In the gulf states.
I actually thought it would be Hausa. Intriguing.

He was Crazy, Funny Crazy though he Loved arab Girls, I met Him when i went to Egypt for a visit Last time in my hotel, he was by himself with no arabic so i let him tag along with me and my crew, He was Chasing Egyptian Girls All Day everyday.[b]lol Didn't had much Luck at the start Till i gave him few tips and he was Running away from them after that,[/b]lol He wanted to Buy an ak47 for self protection on the second day there. lol He fell In love with this Egyptain Girl there and decided to stay Longer, I had to Fly back but Had an egyptain Friend There to check up on him till he left since Egypt could be Nasty for people who don't have No one there, He left few weeks after Me from what my egyptian Friend told me, But Lost contact with him since then.
lol @ red bolded grin grin
He was a Nigerian Kanuri?

These people are a handful, But also an asset For Nigeria, The darfur Rebels are Mostly made from them, and the funny thing is the sudanese army is too.loool They are Like the agressive Version of Fulani's If they need to be, I have met a few and they Like plotting what ever it is, either plotting to get a bargain on groceries or world domination.lol They would test you to check your nerve, They have a mix Feeling about Eritreans,Eritreans Helped Darfurian Rebels and established a H.Q for them In Eritrea's Capital But know of Eritrean Blood Link with the beja people of east sudan who are not a fan of each other.
Lol so the supporters of APC are baggara?

Zidane Is a legend.
Yep. What Zidane is to football is equivalent to what Federer is to tennis – such finesse and artistry both men portray, and even though they’re sportsmen they embody such skill it’s almost like performance art – well at least to me anyway.

Funny that both are technically or sort of African. One is Algerian the other is half South African grin

I don't see much from what i observed, But Since some East africans and Nigerian can Get along with each other the funny place to be is at a place watching an african Cup game between Nigeria and a north african Team, I relaised Egyptian and Nigerian Are cool with each other and compliment and respect each other, Morrocan and algerians sook if they lose but would congratualte Nigerians sitting down after the game, Tunisian on the other hand and Nigerians from the last time I watched was going to turn into a rwanda, Racism/trash talk is the norm between These two offcourse Both don't understand But i understand Arabic and a nigerian Person would tell me what the rest are saying, and since some East africans Understand Arabic and watching the game as neutral by half time They are cheering for Nigeria and fed up with the tunisians, By the end of it a somali Guy who was Just sitting trying to enjoy the game ended Throwing a water pipe into a tunisian with bad Mouth and burned His arm, the tunisian said " Lets beat these black Apes" and the somali Understood it.lol It only take One somali to understand and the rest of the somali Got the message the other tunisians had to kick Their friend out and apologise looool I don't know if you heard But somali are Known among East Africans to have a short Fuse and wouldn't let anything like this pass.lol
Lol. One thing I detest about football is the “extremist” fans. I can’t understand how the often titled “beautiful” game can create such brutes over a 90 minute performance. I think English fanatics are perhaps the worst I’ve come across but no doubt Africans love football lol.

Egyptians Like Exotic sounding Names, From My experience anything with Multiple letter words and ending with "o" or "a" is catchy Phrase for Egyptians, The reason in my Opinion is because Its just Unlike arabic, words They like alot is Burkina Faaso, Droogba , Etooo, Akocha etc.
Lol. I should definitely got to Egypt grin
Forum GamesRe: If U Were In The Same Room With The Person Above U,what Will U Do? (part 2) by emofine2(f): 8:22am On Mar 13, 2012
Oghene me! shocked give her back her son and collect my kola lipsrsealed
CultureRe: New Member From The Land Of The Ancient People. by emofine2(f): 7:11am On Mar 13, 2012
[quote author=Ta_Xasa]Very Interesting. I think In east africa Fulani is also Counted as a seperate from hausa, Infact In arab countries and some part of east africa a hausa would be labelled as fulani to make it easier for identity.[/quote]Are Fulanis more known in East Africa and Arab countries than Hausas?

The reason i ask is because I remember a kanuri Nigerian who was hot headed lol and i thought maybe the whole ethnic group are hot tempered. The kanuri and Nara/Kunama are both Nilo-saharan they could easily be from the same parent tribe before they split in the nile valley. I am not sure about kanuri In eritrea is there is they might have integrated with the nara.
Lol I see. I’ve never met a Kanuri person face to face before. He may have just been an anomaly though.

Oh god you have Baggara In nigeria ? looool Be careful of them. They are a handful.
Lol they have been living in Nigeria for years now just like the Hausa, Fulanis and Kanuris have been living in Sudan for many years.
They are a minority in Nigeria plus I’ve never heard any wild stories about them.

I have many: Abede Pele, Okocha, Aboutrika from Egypt and a nigerian player long ago his name is emmanuel amunike (not sure of spelling) he used to play for my favourite team when i lived in egypt and used to go and see him and play when i was a kid.
My favourite African footballer kinda doesn’t qualify since he played for another country but nevertheless I love Zinedine Zidane grin

Its from experience that is why i asked.
Oh ok. What did you notice from the interaction between Nigerians and their North African counterparts?

I have Heard of it, A guy In egypt who went to my school was from that Ethnic group and few months later every Egyptian Kid in the school were calling him Isoko instead of his Real name, the egyptains liked The name alot more even the teachers were calling him that, so i have heard of the Name but don't know much about it. some egyptains in the school would even ask nigerians who were hausa/Fulani if they were Isoko and they would get Irritated lol They would say what's with the egyptains in this school and isoko. they would pronounce it Isoookooo .lol
Haha.
I wonder why they liked the name. Isoko is actually a legitimate name in Japanese.
I in Isoko is pronounced as E - Esoko.
Actually I’ve noticed that a lot of ethnic groups in Nigeria begin with the letter I lol.
CultureRe: New Member From The Land Of The Ancient People. by emofine2(f): 7:05am On Mar 13, 2012
[quote author=Ta_Xasa]I like It, However at one stage i couldn't Upload My reply and it wouldn't allow me and i thought it was either the Site was Upgrading or i got the quickest Ban in Forum History.lol[/quote]Lol. Well I got the quickest name change in history. Notice the digit at the end of my name.
Plus I had to keep on changing my password just to be recognized. I think the site is still a work in progress though.

I haven't Heard of Lingala or Pidgin.
Have you listened to any Congolese (Kinshasa) music? – if so you probably have heard Lingala.
Lingala is also spoken in parts of Angola and Congo Brazzaville. The language is quite beautiful.

Pidgin is corrupted English. In Nigeria (and other coastal nations in Anglophone West Africa) we manipulated English into our own syntax.
You may see pidgin being spoken often in this forum and you may have heard some Nigerians speaking this dialect before.
If you know patois (Jamaican English) Pidgin is similar.

The Eritrean Army is the Most Experience Army In Africa, 40 Years of experience, The mentality of Eritrean Army Is courageous and Disturbing on the same time, When they allocate Numbers for the army they Think we can afford to Lose 400,000 Soldiers Not fight with 400,000 Soldiers, They don't believe In surrounding a town and wait for the white flag rather they would estimate they would lose x amount of men to take it and if its ok they will take it In few Hours, Just like what happened In south sudan with the eritrean army. In 1991 They occupied The capital Of ethiopia with 30,000 Soldiers and It took them two days to enter the capital from their Front line 1000's of km's away. Ethiopian army was the strongest In africa in the 1980's with 1 million soldiers and heavily equipped with soviet hardware.
I remember a quote from an Eritrean. He said Eritreans only kneel down for two things, when we pray and when we’re shooting lol. I probably badly paraphrased that though.

They have fought for Eritrea’s Liberation, But Many presumed they were Nara or Tigre at that time, They were actually one of the first to pick Up the guns with The tigre and nara/Kunama to start the armed struggle. Their Main City where they Live was actually the Head quarters of the Eritrean Liberation Front for 20 Years so It’s called Barentu. So they did more of their Share of slaughtering Ethiopian Soldiers and for Eritrea’s Liberation No Eritrean Would Dare Deny this.
Interesting. I’ve always regarded the Fulani’s as fearsome people though – well I guess they must be to travel the length of the desert and Sahel belt.

The kunama had the concept of one God for as long as their existence, That is at least 4000-5000 Years.
Do you know much about the beliefs of the Kunama’s. Apart from the concept of one god Is Anaa similar to Allah in other ways?

They have fought for Eritrea's Liberation, But Many presumed they were Nara or Tigre at that time, They were actually one of the first to pick Up the guns with The tigre and nara/Kunama to start the armed struggle. Their Main City where they Live was actually the Head quarters of the Eritrean Liberation Front for 20 Years so It's called Barentu. So they did more of their Share of slaughtering Ethiopian Soldiers and for Eritrea's Liberation No Eritrean Would Dare Deny this.
Are not the Hausa/Fulanis distinguishable from the indigenous population of Eritrea?
Forum GamesRe: ¤¤ I Have A Thing For ¤¤ by emofine2(f): 7:30pm On Mar 11, 2012
Fables and Proverbs.
Forum GamesRe: What Song Are You Really Feeling Now? by emofine2(f): 7:28pm On Mar 11, 2012
Thomas Mapfumo - Kariba
RomanceRe: Your Take On Zodiac Love Compactibility? by emofine2(f): 7:21pm On Mar 11, 2012
Can 7 billion people be truly governed by only 12 personalties and fate?

Would someone's character be similar to mine because we share the same date of birth? . . .even twins are not necessarily alike undecided

I wonder why people attach much significance to these horoscopes - have they proved true all the time? . . .Besides aren't these readings pretty vague?

I wonder if those who are deeply invested in this mysticism may possibly end up tailoring their being just to qualify or alter a predicted outcome undecided

Each to their own I guess.
Forum GamesRe: Slap, Kiss, Hug, Peck, Smooch, S3x, Punch or KILL by emofine2(f):
A well deserved smooch for dealing with baba craze small

next time you for kill am sha - your reward for increase tongue
Forum GamesRe: Random Facts About Yourself (part 2) by emofine2(f):
I fidget a lot tongue
Forum GamesRe: ¤¤ I Have A Thing For ¤¤ by emofine2(f): 6:11pm On Mar 11, 2012
writing essays tongue
Forum GamesRe: What Song Are You Really Feeling Now? by emofine2(f): 6:10pm On Mar 11, 2012
Kefee - Branama
Forum GamesRe: If U Were In The Same Room With The Person Above U,what Will U Do? (part 2) by emofine2(f): 6:08pm On Mar 11, 2012
I would tell her digwo before breaking kola.
Forum GamesRe: If U Were In The Same Room With The Person Above U,what Will U Do? (part 2) by emofine2(f): 2:45pm On Mar 11, 2012
Ask him if he could get rid of this digit next to my name sad
Christianity EtcRe: What Qualifies An Entity As God? by emofine2(op): 2:11pm On Mar 11, 2012
Jenwitemi: It is possible that exaltations might do that, but a very lofty political status is necessary to come close to attaining such godly status. Stalin was regarded as god by his supporters even till today. About the Beckham thing, it is possible that he is being hero-worshipped in Japan, but that will never be the same thing as deification. He needs a very lofty political status to go with his celebrity status.
There is also another football player  who goes by the name of Robbie Fowler. His nickname is. . . GOD.  What about Messi?
Interesting.
CultureRe: New Member From The Land Of The Ancient People. by emofine2(f): 2:05pm On Mar 11, 2012
Ptolomeus: Hello dear friend.
I answered on 1/3/2012.
Check the "spam"
I send my warmest regards!
cool
CultureRe: New Member From The Land Of The Ancient People. by emofine2(f):
Interesting set of questions. Honestly I don’t know the answers to all of them or even to a great extent but I’ll try and answer them all as best as I can. I must warn you I’m no expert though.

1) Hausa/Fulani The language are they the sameIf not do Fulani speak Hausa and fulani and vice versa or they just speak one language
Hausa and Fula are not the same; they do not even belong in the same language family.
If you mean: do the Hausa and Fulani people speak the same language – well that depends.
When you explained that some Hausa/Fulani’s assimilated with particular groups in Eritrea it reminded me of the dynamics of the Hausa and Fulani in Nigeria.
From what I’ve been told many Fulani’s in Nigeria speak Hausa even as a first language; even to the extent where some Fulani’s don’t even speak Fulfulde anymore. So in Nigeria it’s more likely that a Fulani speaks Hausa than Fulfulde and for a Hausa to speak Hausa. Hausa is the dominant language in Northern Nigeria.
In other West African nations housing these two groups, the situation differs.
In Nigeria the Fulani’s and Hausas are somehow merged forming a synergy thus the term "Hausa-Fulani" but some of them have intermarried. Only in Nigeria is the term Hausa-Fulani even relevant. In Niger for example the term Hausa and Fulani exists separately.

2) Tell me about Kanuri people In nigeria?
I don’t know too much about the Kanuri people unfortunately. The little I know of them is all researched. They are concentrated in the North East and their language is classified as Nilo-Saharan. That’s why I asked you if Kanuri was perhaps probably similar to Nara. But I don’t know if Nilo-Saharan and Nilotic people share similarities other than the name of their language group lol. The Kanuris just like the Hausa’s and Fulanis are also reported to have a significant diaspora in Sudan and Eritrea. I wonder if you have seen any Kanuris in Eritrea.

3) are the Darfurian people and Hausa/Fulani Related?
Hmm . . . I don’t know to be honest. Hopefully a Hausa or Fulani could shed some light.
However there is an ethnic group in Nigeria that is said to have originated from Darfur and Kurdufan in Sudan. The Shuwa Arabs or Baggara in North East Nigeria originally come from Sudan. They are neighbours of the Kanuris.

4) Boko Haram which Ethnic Group their Members are from?
Well Boko Haram is not tribe specific. Some of the members from this sect comprise of Kanuri, Hausa, Nigeriens, Chadians, Fulanis etc.

5) What Ethnic Group Is Okocha?? he is My favourite Nigerian Player.
Okocha is Igbo lol.
He’s your favourite “Nigerian” player. So who is you favourite African player? grin

6) What does Nigerian Think Of northern Africans (Morrocans/Tunisans/Libyans/algerians/Egyptians) ?
Interesting question, I wonder what made you ask this lol.
I can’t speak for every Nigerian but as far as I’m aware of we don’t harbour any national hostility towards these nations. But as for Libya, well our government and the Former Gadhafi Libyan government were not exactly the best of friends. It would actually be interesting to ask a Muslim or Northern Nigerian this question because of their history, geography and religion (those corresponding to Islam). But as for me personally I’m pretty interested in Morocco particularly their architecture and I would like to visit Egypt someday but my heart is open to all nations from Africa.

7) Who Do Nigerian Rival More with Ghana/Cameroon or Ivory Coast
Haha.
Ivory Coast? Hmm I seriously doubt it but maybe it depends on an issue i.e. Naija/Cameroon rivalry is exclusive to football. But still I doubt it very much.
In terms of football our “rivalry” is mainly with Ghana and Cameroon.
In terms of politics our “rivalry” is mostly with Ghana and South Africa.
However Nigerians and Ghanaians have an interesting relationship where both nationals can automatically become oppositions to each other for the most trivial of things - always wanting to outdo each other. So I would perhaps describe our relationship with Ghana as a sibling “rivalry”.

8)What is the religion Demographic In Nigeria?
Nigeria has a significant Muslim and Christian Population. But the percentages differs according to some stats. However it’s often approximately cited as 50/50 ± but usually the slight majority is awarded to Muslims. I still have my reservations about certain statistics as largely I don’t have faith in how they are executed.
Also there are a few who still practise traditional religion like one poster called PAGAN9JA.
And some mix animism with the imported faiths.

9) Do Nigerians and Niger Hate Each other or there is Love there between them?
Lol I wonder what made you ask this. Well Northern Nigerians and Southern Nigeriens are pretty much the same; they are brothers. Northern Nigeria and Southern Niger is the official homeland of the Hausas plus they share other similar ethnic groups like the Fulani, Kanuri etc. A northern Nigerian should be able to relate well with a Nigerien.

10) Is it their any hatred from Nigerian Towards East africa??I meant Real Hatred Not the "I am better than you African Mentality"lol because i would love to Visit Nigeria.
Nigerians don’t harbour a national hatred for East Africans. Superiority complex may be there but certainly not animosity.
What have been your experiences when interacting with Nigerians?
You want to visit Nigeria and I would love to visit the red sea in Eritrea cheesy

11) What Ethnic Group are you? you Don't need to answer this if you don't want to.
Lol. You may not have heard of my ethnic group – even some Nigerians don’t know it.
I’m from a minority group called Isoko that come from Delta State, Southern Nigeria.
However I was born in the North smiley
CultureRe: New Member From The Land Of The Ancient People. by emofine2(f):
[quote author=Ta_Xasa]Hi Emofine:

Thank you For your warm Welcome[/quote]Hello Ta_Xasa, what do you think of the new website layout?

Tigrigna: It has almost 200 Letters
Wow.
How do the children learn 200 alphabets? Some adults find it hard to master 26 grin

Its more of a unifying Language In eritrea Taken abit from other langauges
Interesting. There are other countries that have a similar pattern to this like Swahili in Kenya/Tanzania. . .Lingala in Congo. . .and Pidgin in Nigeria.

It is also A Language Proven to be made In africa.
Originally African cool

Tigre Or Xasa: The Father of the Tigrigna Languages also Known as Geez, It is among the oldest Semitic Language if not the oldest, Very closely Related to the ancient Chaldean/Akkadian Language in mespotomia
Are the Christians in Eritrea orthodox?

Very smooth Language even when someone is insulting someone it sounds like he is saying poetic verses.
Lol grin

Saho: No bluff about them In war they would Fight for days with No sleep, The poverb In Eritrea is "God is with us Because he Made the Saho People Eritreans". Lol
smiley I’ve heard a little about the acclaim of Eritreans Army actually.

Nara: It has similarity with other Nilotic Languages across Africa but still has alot of difference. The hausa/Fulani In Eritrea mostly Live among the Nara people.
Kunama: A nilotic Language Related to Nara as well
Are the Nilotic languages related or carry similarities with the Nilo-Saharan languages?

while Majority of Kunama are Today Muslims it was Easier for them to become Muslims Because theY WORSHIPPED one god "Anaa"
I like the fact that the concept of “one god” wasn’t foreign to some African groups because it challenges those non-Africans who believed they could claim spiritual superiority because of their monotheism which wasn’t even unique to them.

Hausa and Fulani In sudan Is a serious Number, In the Millions. comparing it To Eritrea is really no comparison. From what I heard the one's In Eritrea stayed Because they couldn't afford the journey Back after mecca and decided to stay and Trade and save money but ended up having kids/more kids and their kids didn't want to leave.there is alot of Hausa/Fulani in saudia arabia for the same Reason too they couldn't go back for financial Reasons. They have been In saudi for 100-200-300 Years even some Earlier. I doubt Religious Climate had anything to do with it because 100 Years ago In Eritrea Muslims were a great Minority Maybe 10-20%, most of today Muslim Tribes were Non muslims, The nara were animist and Kunama were mostly animist and the largest Tirbe In eritrea, today the Kunama are only 2% funny how 100 Years changes a demographic of a country. Eritrea is always has been a welcoming Land to anyone Regardless of religion or Background.
Have you been to Sudan before?
What is the population of Eritrea? (are the Hausa/Fulanis included in the census?)

The Hausa/Fulani In Eritrea has proven their allegiance to the land and their fellow Eritrean Tribes, They Bled for the land and were the first to join The Eritrean Liberation Movement to free Eritrea from Ethiopia, The rule In Eritrea is you bleed for the land and the Land shall Belong to you. Vey Low Profile people Though, The are very proud Eritreans and even when they go to other countries They make sure they are known as Eritreans First, They have adopted the mentality of other Eritreans which is You are Eritreans First because if all your tribe has vanished and you are the the only one left the rest of Eritreans will help you re-Build Your Tribe again and won't let it die.
I had no idea that Hausa/Fulanis fought alongside Eritreans for their independence. A while ago I read something similar to what you have said about those spilling blood for Eritrea’s independence. That is why I thought that Hausa/Fulanis would never be accepted because I didn’t know that they had also been fighting alongside Eritrea. In fact I think I read somewhere that they hadn’t participated in the struggle. Well I guess you learn something different new every day.

Correct, Love is love no matter where you are. The Drummers/Band were Hausa/Fulani..The singer Is Nara/Kunama and the Girl is Blin a kushtic Tribe. The audience were from Every corner of Eritrea + Few white People as well.
Where those white people Italians?

I do, I love Sahel Music The texture and History Is amazing, Especially when the Kirar/3 string Guitar is involved it just adds more melody and theme to the song. The music of Eritrean Folklore is similar to sahel Music across africa. Most of the music In eritrea is like this at least the Folklore or classic.
Before, I used to consider if similarities among different countries within the same continent existed along a longitudinal axis. It kinda seems now that more similarities may be found along the horizontal plane.
Nairaland GeneralRe: "Nairaland 2.0" Is Live! Any Questions Or Feedback? by emofine2(f): 7:06am On Mar 11, 2012
It's nice but is it possible to delete the digit on my handle?

Thanks in advance.
Christianity EtcRe: What Qualifies An Entity As God? by emofine2(op): 8:57pm On Mar 10, 2012
Jenwitemi:
Not much difference other than hero worshiping isn't tied with any religion. It happens mostly on individual basis and done voluntarily. But the internal effects on the individuals doing the worshiping on both cases is still the same.
Yeah but I wondered couldn't such exaltation boost a regular being into a god like status like some of these celebrities. I read once before that David Beckham (a mere mortal) is worshiped like a deity in a place in Japan.
IslamRe: Questions For Muslims: For Those Who Want To Know by emofine2(f): 8:49pm On Mar 10, 2012
Muslim women have informed me that they cover themselves so as to appear modest and to avoid attracting lustful attention. I thus wonder about Muslim men. What precautions do the brethren’s take to make sure that they are also not objects of lust?
Christianity EtcRe: What Qualifies An Entity As God? by emofine2(op): 8:28pm On Mar 10, 2012
Jenwitemi:
They do great and fantastic things in the eyes of primitive or simple people, something that they(the primitives) cannot do by themselves. These beings, thus, become very central in their lives so they worship them. It is not difficult to turn somebody into a God. It just signifies the pinnacle of reverence of a particular being(whatever that being may be) by another being of simplicity.
Do you think there's a difference between hero worship and worshiping a deity? Or perhaps that may have been the origin of how some deities came to be? hmmn. . .
Christianity EtcRe: What Qualifies An Entity As God? by emofine2(op): 8:24pm On Mar 10, 2012
buzugee:
this is the foundation of all those gods you mentioned. what qualifies an entity as god ? empty people looking to fill the holes in their heart with anything
Funnily enough I’ve heard this before from a Christian material when I was a child. I wondered, why are we thus born incomplete or perhaps because we’re just insatiable beings. So I wonder if our goal on earth is to seal that hole or perhaps just find a compatible filler hence the yellow brick road.
Christianity EtcRe: What Qualifies An Entity As God? by emofine2(op): 8:16pm On Mar 10, 2012
Sweetnecta:
@emofine; Tell me what disqualify Allah in your view from you revering Him?
Lol you’re always giving me homework.

Is this a subtle attempt in trying to make me adopt Allah as my personal god?

Well to answer your question, I don’t have a burning conviction to follow Allah but perhaps the reason I do not revere him as such is because my knowledge about him is pretty vague – although I’ve taken steps to remedy my ignorance.

But out of all the deities I’ve loosely studied Allah does not captivate me more than any other. And what makes Allah the legitimate God if there is truly “one true God” especially as there are others that claim this title also?

What makes any entity worthy of reverence or not in your mind? Please use Allah to illustrate your decision[s].
Ok let me just clarify something. I don’t question people’s right to worship any deity if it’s of their own choosing. I just wonder how the entities in which any individual worships attained such a position. As I've asked earlier, what qualifies an entity as god?

Allow me to share a little story with you and perhaps you may understand my point and position. . .

Both my parents come from animists’ backgrounds so they do not underrate the spiritual value of any regarded “fetishes”. I am not an adherent to any religion but I remain sensitive to people’s belief and out of that sensitivity I can consider and value the significance of one’s deity or spirituality.
However when I look at a depiction of any ancient gods and the raw material in which they are made from, I wonder what separates the two inanimate objects. The difference is that one is accorded much esteem whilst the other which is of the same material but different form and embodies no spiritual content is void of any worship. Yet if the raw material was manipulated into a similitude of a deity its status would have suddenly risen. How do these carved depictions or seen or unseen beings come to harbour much spiritual potency anyway?

My animist apostates’ parents never indulged any of their daughters with dolls as they regarded them as fetishes because of their striking human like forms. Of course they provided us with other toys but I couldn't help thinking why the permitted toys were not also regarded as “idols” also. The difference was in how they perceived these items. They didn't detach any spiritual potency from a plastic doll but could detach such energy from a teddy bear for example. So such made me to consider the power of any entity and their status as a deity. Is it inherent or imparted? How do these entities attain the position as god? Is it all in our individual perception or the energy we have attached to them?

My little anecdote is one of the reasons why I mentioned Barbie alongside the whole list of prominent gods lol. And for the fact that Barbie is also a cult.


I would also like to throw the question back at you. What makes any entity worthy of reverence?
PoliticsRe: Is Nigeria Better Than Some African Countries? by emofine2(f): 4:36pm On Mar 10, 2012
I immediately cringed when I saw this topic because it appears devised as a means for one to derive comfort in the situation of Nigeria by comparing her to countries who are worse off. undecided
Since some project a single image of Nigeria I understand that by way of countering this some feel the need to contrast but let’s be honest; the bar in Africa is not exactly high. Such desperate comparison actually reflects more on Nigeria than her neighbours. Is Nigeria better than some African nations? Undoubtedly yes. But when the bar is not even high it’s not exactly an accomplishment or a relief especially given Nigeria’s resource and potential.
When people judge Nigeria, they do not judge or assess her by Rwanda's or Chad’s standards. undecided
Christianity EtcWhat Qualifies An Entity As God? by emofine2(op): 2:20pm On Mar 10, 2012
Allah. Jehovah. Vishnu. Olodumare. Horus. Barbie. Madonna.

Different forms and different interpretations – how do people come to revere these entities?

Is it because of who they are or who they are not or what they embody or simply because of the multitude of their followers their significance is highly esteemed?
CultureRe: New Member From The Land Of The Ancient People. by emofine2(f): 2:00pm On Mar 10, 2012
Hola Ptolomeus cheesy
Did you get my mail? smiley
CultureRe: New Member From The Land Of The Ancient People. by emofine2(f): 1:54pm On Mar 10, 2012
[quote author=Ta_Xasa link=topic=890002.msg10367633#msg10367633 date=1331337272]Thank you For your warm Welcome[/quote]smiley

You pronounce it as Ta-Haa-sa The x is a False X.
So the “X” has a similar pronunciation to H? Reminds me of the Somali diction where x is pronounced as h.
What are the language families in Eritrea?


No There is a region called Puntland In Somalia Which Might Have Extended till There But The capital and The port and Major towns were all In today's Central Region Of eritrea, That Region Houses The second Largest Ancient Artifacts In all africa After Egypt. The capital Name was Qo-Hoi-To and the port Name was Adu-La.
Oh, I thought Sudan would have been no.2 after Egypt. What type of Ancient Artifacts can be found in Eritrea? Have all these artifacts remained in Eritrea or were some stolen and exhibited in foreign museums/galleries?

Qo-Hoi-To - the name looks Japanese lol.


The 18th, 19th and 20th Dynasty are Known to be Closely Linked with Eritreans Even in egypt i was taught by Arab Teachers That the New kingdom Pharohs were From where Eritrea is Today, Pharohs Like Nefertari,Hatchepsut,akhnetan etc spoke a mother tongue spoken In Eritrea In ancient Times to communicate with her Medjay's and Advisors For Fear The Hyksos People who Remained There after Their Defeat of the 17th Dynasty wouldn't Be able to know State Secrets, In 1998 The Egyptian Goverment In a rare Move Added the Bisharin Beja of south East Egypt as direct Desendents of The New Kingdom Egyptians (18th,19th,20th Dynasty), Few years ago a dna test on a 19th Dynasty Pharoh Returned with 90% Identical Dna with An Eritreans Tribe which is The Bani-Amer Tigre or to the ancient Egyptians Ta-Xasa, The funny part is the tomb of that pharoh also said that their ancestorial land is where Eritrea/East sudan Is situated and according to their Book of Dead They classified People who lived On the red sea as their Kins and the only other Group who would pass Into the Afterlife along with them.
Very very interesting.


Ancient Egypt was a melting Pot and every Race probarly lived/Ruled or went pass through Egypt
The greatness of Ancient Egypt can never be emphasised enough and how much that civilization influenced much of the world but little is said of how the world also influenced this great civilization. It’s very difficult to put Ancient Egypt in one box because there were diverse people just like with America today yet one shade is often highlighted which is very dubious in my opinion even though I try to avoid the whole “racial” debate embarassed


they brought their gods to be added with the other Gods, The New Kingdom Pharohs Brought a god who was only worshipped In Ta seti at that Time (Seth) and even Dedicated Everything for him he was elevated to the main God as amun and horus were demoted Many Ancient Egyprtains were not happy, A whole Army battalion was named Seth as well. But the Biggest Proof is one of the Pharohs of the 19th Dynasty Name Was Sipta Which doesn't Mean anything In ancient Egyptains, But means alot to Eritreans and East Sudanese Because Eritreans and East Sudanese Through Kush are descendents Through Sabta/sipta.
The migration of gods throughout history is a topic very interesting to me. One of the things I’ve observed with the wave of each god is that whoever has the authority of the nation at that particular period establishes their god as the central god - as if they are leaving a stamp or marking their territory with their deity.
Earlier I asked you about the religious landscape of Eritrea. I asked because I wanted to find out if any animism practiced in Eritrea have similar practices or even deities with ancient Egypt due to history.


Correct, Numbering About 30,000 Today, they stayed 100-200 Years ago after going to mecca and for different Reason Decided to stay when they passed through.
Yeah I read some of them stayed after going to mecca. In other reports I read they stayed on their way to Mecca. So I guess their navigating had something to do with their pilgrimage. And for identical reasons I’ve read that some also dwell in Sudan.
I wonder if the religious climate of those countries influenced their decision to stay though hmmm.


They are Very Very Low key though most Eritreans Don't know about them as they have melted Into an Area Where The Nilotic Tribe Of Nara Live, The Tigre and The Beja so They are Among These Three Groups and because They speak up to 5 or 6 Languages Arabic/Tigre/Tigrigna/Beja/Nara and sometimes English or kunama Many Eritreans Just presume They are Nara/Tigre or Beja. However Recently a light was shed and the goverment is looking at the options of adding them as a seperate Group, However I am not quite sure They have assembled Enough to be counted as a seperate group as many of them consider to be part of the Tigre or Nara Group Today, But Yeah i would Like to have Fulani as a language In Eritrea is very close to Nara By the way.
Interesting. I read that nine groups make up Eritrea.
Do the Hausa/Fulanis consider themselves Eritreans since some have absorbed into the Nara/Tigre groups?
Do you understand Fula? It’s interesting though that you say that Fula sounds closer to Nara. What of Hausa or even Kanuri? Which Language group does Nara fall into?


Here is a clip, The singer Is Kunama/Nara and the drummers Are hausa/Fulani.
I really enjoyed that clip thanks for sharing. What was the story the two characters were conveying? I interpreted the performance as a man trying to woo a woman.


They Do Especially The folklore Music, I find the sahel Music to be More Close to Eritreans Music. Eritrean Music relies Heavily On the Kirar or the Tanboor a 3 String Guitar Like Instrument Eritreans Always Think They are the best At it and obession with it Start when you are a baby.lol
I’ve also detected similarities between traditional music along the belt of Africa (Sahel and the Horn of Africa). So I’m guessing you have an appreciation for Sahelian music?
Listening to the Kunama music you shared reminded me of music from Niger/Northern Nigeria -  but maybe because Hausa/Fulanis were involved  - or even Sudanese music.


I've bombarded you with so many questions so thank you for being patient. So Ta_Xasa what would you like to know about Nigeria or West Africa?

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