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RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 1:47pm On Jul 01, 2012
cowgurl: Hmmm! Interesting comments on here. But we all should be reminded that meeting someone online is quite similar in some ways as meeting someone offline, the only obvious difference is the anonymity that goes with the former and even that as well can also happen offline till one get to know the other in toto. Then again, people offline are also guilty of hiding them flaws or are ' professionals' in acting what they are not just to impress/get their aim targets and still get away with it. The crux; when an online personality[b] who's like you in some ways[/b] reaches out to you to get to know you better, reciprocate the gesture cos he/she may have lots more to offer than what you already see online. Just because many folks see online dating as being silly does not mean it is in totality, it's all in the way one goes about it. Let's be open minded even when finding love cos you know, it wouldn't hurt to enjoy the risks and adventures that goes with meeting an online personality u kinda have a thing for offline.
Very true...okay maybe I should have asked instead or in addition...do people "fall in love" faster with a presented illusion? or something perhaps at first intangible?
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 1:42pm On Jul 01, 2012
[quote author=Adeniyi A.]that 'FALL' is the problem, that's y some av broken heads,hearts,legs etc cos they 'fall' blindly. there ar +ve side to online dating cos av seen ppl brought 2geda by online chat. the truth is thru ur chats,some faithful n shy ones divulge most of their secrets to those who come to em as lambs,everyone needs love. life of 2day has gone microwave- instant fUd,s.ex,wife,husbd etc.aftA chattin wt 3 to 5 ppl u wil find dos wt same life philosophy thru questionin,while in real life no time.MOST PPL PRETEND.pcout[/quote]
chucky234: Back to the topic,I think love is a very serious thing and often hard to identify when in love as people easily mistake infatuation for love.
Its hard to fall in love online without offline activities and that's to say every online relationships that involves people miles apart without offline contacts are merely built on infatuation or passion, you can be infatuated or put passionate about people's character e.g intelligence,humour,look,ambition,business or profession e.t.c

In the past few years marriages have succeeded from online relationships, I don't think all were purely based on love but as they were/are only tyring to love the ones they married and not marrying the ones they love.

In conclusion,love is hard to find online as what you call love may not be love rather you are simply infatuated or passionate about the person's online ghost personality.
cecegorz: I will say YES to the question. But the issue for me will be, where does it lead to?
Basically, online allows people to consciously project a type of drop dead gorgeous personae which they can only dream of in real life.
It only takes a careful presentation of sterling attractive qualities, meant to impress and endear the other party, who has no inkling of what lies behind the screen.
My take is that if you find yourself getting attracted to an online personality, take a pause and arrange for an offline date, it will give you room to evaluate what you have been discussing online.
That also means that having a long distance love-interest online is a dangerous thing, because you might spend years building on that fantasy, and by the time you see the person live, you'll discover it's been wasted years.
Some interesting points...
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 1:33pm On Jul 01, 2012
^^^ grin tongue

sauer: Can this occur at a faster rate online than offline? My reasoning will be that it depends on the people involved and what amount of time they have for each other. Apparently, if they see each other very often offline, perhaps as work colleagues, who says it shouldn't proceed faster offline? At any rate, it's only a measure of how well they connect with each other on that non-physical plane.
And I don't think rejection is any easier to handle online or offline. Rejection is rejection, since it has to do with the non-acceptance of the qualities anyone brings forward. It certainly affects any way. This is why most try to avoid rejection by bringing forward very good qualities, while hiding the ones that could prompt rejection. Limited thinking would immediately assume this is a peculiarity of online relationships. But cowgurl did point out, and with good reasons too, that this can happen in offline relationships as well. So, I see no reason to think one is any "safer" or "sensibler" than the other.
Good point...I was thinking that if there is exposure to a higher concentration of people (via a medium such as the web) then reactions may occur at a faster rate but then I guess since it’s a current trend I guess we are going to be made more aware of these relationships which may make it seem more frequent than what they probably are but then again statistics reflects the opposite...
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 1:27pm On Jul 01, 2012
pendo89: True,true.
Remedy? Go beyond potraits and insist on talking with the person on video if you both can.See them live as they talk like ur both in a conference room.

There's this man I was doing some consultancy work for.
Seemed pretty charming and very intelligent.Attributes I personally admire. One day he insited on letting me see him on video.So video I clicked.
Nothing silly cz it was official and I still wanted to see him to get this overall picture and background which people never pay attention to.
Now as the conversation wore on, he started picking his nose and eating potato chips while licking his fingers undecided.Not once but several times. Nxt he was was scratching his underarms,head etc.
I put off video cz I almost puked. When we talked again he was telling of plans to build some million naira house in Abuja and he wanted me there. undecided
Now whether he meant it or not I didn't really bother cz all I could visualise was the nose picking and body scratching.
I said to myself.Sincerely if I had any feeling towards this fellow,the annoying habits he displayed online were a put off.
I wasn't eager to meet him and discuss anything cz the image just stuck with me and it spoke of a careless dirty person.

I think it's wise to see the person you are conversing with to avoid building vain fantasies.It's easy to put up a potrait of my sis,friend or cousin and tell u fake stories.
grin Aww at least he wasn’t forming naa tongue
But then again how do we know for sure that that wasn’t even an act? undecided
Or can confirmation be exacted only offline?
Forum GamesRe: If U Were In The Same Room With The Person Above U,what Will U Do? (part 2) by emofine2(f): 12:48pm On Jul 01, 2012
Catch up with him...so X, what you been up to in your absence?
Forum GamesRe: ╚►start The Sentence With The Last Word (pidgin Version) Part 3 ◄╝ by emofine2(f): 12:47pm On Jul 01, 2012
Pls no kill me with lafta grin
FamilyRe: Same-sex Parenting; Can A Same-sex Couple Raise A Straight Child? by emofine2(f): 12:46pm On Jul 01, 2012
azpekuliar: Can same-sex parents raise a straight child?
Yes.
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 12:40pm On Jul 01, 2012
sauer: Whether it is statistically significant or not is not the point here. You know that. In addition, your insistence on proof proves nothing. What does "1000's of supposedly successful online relationships" prove then? That people can't succeed doing it? Of course, no!
You see, I'd not go that claremont way by insisting that it's not a rational thing to do. I'm as well suspicious of online relationships. However, I wouldn't totally condemn it. The internet is a new aspect of our lives as modern humans, so it's only understandable to regard it with suspicion especially regarding intimate concerns. Plato's condemnation of poetry, a then emerging art form, is apparently not justifiable today. The success and evolution of poetry attest to this. When the TV first came, conservative modern philosophers thought it would take the life off a burgeoning scientific population. Is it not the same TV that offers educative materials and audio-visual aids in the understanding of science? Same was said of the computer. . . .We can go on and on. The method of such thinkers, as claremont, is then to find a way to accommodate these phenomena when it becomes apparent that they are succeeding. Pray, you won't do same with internet dating.
I do not agree with you in your attempt to employ evolution as a tool for nullifying the potential successes of online relationships. The internet might as well be part of our social evolution as humans. And who says the internet cannot be a channel for the passage or development of our mental attributes? As an example, some people have very well not met Richard Dawkins, but are heavily influenced by him solely based on what they glean online. Are these people mentally deranged? Undoubtedly, the internet has become part of our lives, physical and non-physical. And in the forseeable future, I see the internet becoming not only a tool for giving or getting tips, but also one for managing all aspects of our lives. I do have as a prediction that subsequently our online identities will become hardly inseparable from our offline ones, such that people might go to jail, get married, win the Nobel prize, etc. based solely on what they do online! But, I digress. . . grin

All said, my attempt is not to completely approve of online relationships. As I mentioned earlier, I'm suspicious of it. However, I won't throw the baby out with the water. Instead I want to show that online dating is present and thriving and normal, and it's what we'll have to deal with in the coming decades.
I quite agree with your points and I also envision such a modern reality...
Christianity EtcRe: Deapsight, N Nwankwo, Justcool,kay 17, Martian ,et Al, Lets Discuss Spirituality by emofine2(f): 12:24pm On Jul 01, 2012
Pastor AIO: My point is that the most certain thing in existence is the least communicable thing. This therefore breaks the presumption that there must be a link between certainty and communicability or consensus of any sort.
Interesting...
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 12:15pm On Jul 01, 2012
@topic But isn’t it interesting that when some people are attracted by a seemingly beautiful personality online they may want to match that with a beautiful portrait? So this sometimes failed expectation may not be through the result of a lie of any character involved but more so a fantasy...

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happy89 = pendo89....nice of you to join us again grin
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 12:12pm On Jul 01, 2012
pendo89: When you set foot in Kenya mention the word primitive energy and everybody will grin
2 weeks ago Korean air published an article announcing their scheduled flights to Nbo. In their effort to woo tourists,the article encouraged them to come and see 'primitive energy' on African soil.(in the wild,park and stuff grin.
Now that word caused a major uproar, they were forced to immediateley withdraw it from their websites and apologise a million times grin
I think everything got lost in translation but kenyans viewed it as an insult to Africans.
Well we use that word everytime somebody spends energy doing something silly.
like dating a ghost
Lol...they should have just stuck with “magical kenya” or adapted the title a bit since it’s already officially taken...


chucky234: Hmmm,Emofine where have you been all this while nah? Seem London is treating you with so much goodies that you had to abandoned us here,abi.... Welcome oooooo!
Thanks for the welcome but I needed a breather and was hoping to expand my thoughts...

sauer: Now, whether one finds "offline" or "online" relationships good depends on what attributes (physical or non-physical)are most valued by the judging parties.
Some are much more interested in a person's personality than they are in the person's physical qualities. And the bulk of a person's personality can pretty much show online than it would offline.
Intriguing...perhaps a sort of blind date...
But does this supposed feeling occur at a faster rate online than offline?
If so is it because rejection may be easier to handle online?
Or can people afford to be a little bit more naïve online than offline as contact can always be severed if one was found to be fabricating without ever having to confront the other person in real life?

Typical emofine thread. grin
grin
Christianity EtcRe: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by emofine2(op):
FXKing2012: And if not for Christianity, Africans would still be living in caves doing hunting and gathering. So wat African institutions, instincts and common sense are u talking abt?
Excuse me but since when were Africans cave dwellers?

It is untrue and also damaging to continually peddle this false notion that Christianity (a religion younger than Africa’s great civilizations) is somehow responsible for allegedly “civilizing” Africans.

Do not colour history just to put your religion in a favourable light. Perhaps Christianity had done some good but whether that supposed "good" was done in a good way or largely undercover work is still arguable.

Under this tool called Christianity we were devalued and robbed...so excuse me if we all don’t view Christianity in rose tints (at least the version that was promoted) when our very own people, pride and dignity were sacrificed on the alter of this imported religion.

Tell me, did African religions encroach on a foreign territory devaluing, manipulating and supplanting it’s inhabitants and culture leaving a trail of blood? Yet it is African religions that are said to be the most bloody and sinister...

We are not starry-eyed about African Religions nor do we view them romantically...we recognize that there were some terrible acts (as were in all religions so none should cowardly hide behind Africa).

But we are making an objective reassessment about them and considering what could have been made of the more beneficial elements. A foreign religion is part and parcel of a foreign culture so we didn’t purely accept another religion, we also assumed facets of another culture. So if religion packages human experience, ideologies, philosophies, and even culture why should Africa’s beliefs be made redundant because of some malpractices that could have been eliminated or corrected?

Unless the real not-so-subtle claim is not that some of our practices or beliefs were wicked but that we as a people were wicked and as such would naturally translate in all our activities.

You cannot expect some of us to fall for prejudiced and premature claims.

You see yourself now! Was Abraham a Christian? Was there even Christianity during Abraham's time? Why would u wanna expose your folly up in here? And besides, God was only testing Abraham's faith; God was never gonna allow Abraham kill Isaac. Dont be stupid u eeediot!
If Christianity is responsible for our civilization then please extend that to your use of language.
Unlike African traditional beliefs the Abrahamic faiths were documented thus we all know the alleged reason why Abraham was told to sacrifice his son - there are presented backgrounds to these stories which otherwise would have appeared even more horrific thus they can be defended but of course the African faiths lost this convenience as they maintained an oral tradition and so we don't know what informed their practices.
Christianity EtcRe: You Have 1 New Nairaland PM. Plz check ur e-mail by emofine2(f): 11:23pm On Jun 30, 2012
Seun: Change your email so you can get future PMs
I've been experiencing the same issue and even tried changing my email but for some odd reason the modifications I make do not hold and as a result I have never recieved the emails that have been supposedly sent to my inbox - I believe I sent you a mail about this issue in the past (whether you even recieved that mail is another thing altogether)....
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 9:27pm On Jun 30, 2012
MRbrownJAY: @OP
how many times have you heard people online say that they are smelly, unclean, arrogant or even rude? most people online only talk and push forward their good side........so no wonder many people online might fall quicker in love than people in real life (who would judge the person for who they truly are).

also, although a person's character is what should be important, it is the whole person that should be judged.......it doesnt matter if someone has all the right attributes, if there is nothing behind to back that up.
And I agree...

Do you think people tend to prematurely determine their feelings online than offline?

Do we lean more to our credulity online and scepticism offline?
CultureRe: Which African Country Do We Nigerians Tend 2 Marry From? by emofine2(f): 7:34pm On Jun 30, 2012
Perhaps the country(ies) that has/have the biggest diaspora and the most familiar culture undecided

[quote author=tpia@]do you mean do we nigerians marry from or which we nigerians dont marry from? huh

"Do" is too general since to the best of my knowledge nigerians have the world record in anything of that nature.

that's like asking are nigerians found in europe.[/quote]Lool hilarious grin
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 7:25pm On Jun 30, 2012
pendo89: I asked a married person why he was teasing me and he said he was trying to be daring! undecided whatever he meant. He likes trying risky unreal things.
Reason I doubt that people seeking love online are single .Most are in serious offline relationships.I think they prefer something exciting, out of the ordinary,something they can't get but still want to explore. What do u call that if not waste of energy.Primitive energy actually.
I recognize that people can transfer their cheating habits online...so what about something much more sincere?

However I understand the point you’ve highlighted.

“primitive energy”...now that Pendo is certainly a new and fascinating term grin

Now this is a new one emofine> 'online character flaunting' grin (I love the way u choose words)
Merci but remember Pendo na u talk say mek we no fall for words anyhow online o tongue

All your points are humorous and very valid...

lefulefu: . She dey in love wit me
Offline nko?
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 5:56pm On Jun 30, 2012
I appreciate your insightful comments Pendo and that point you made about daring was rather interesting...

“but online relationship if not followed up with offline is a waste of emotional energy” - very valid point.

Many are moved by words.
You are correct but then again that is all or largely what we have to go by online – at least in the initial stage.

So Pendo, would you say that those who usually fall for words as opposed to actions are more likely to find "love" online?

And even if one does try and prove their selves online wouldn't that be seen as character flaunting?
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 5:52pm On Jun 30, 2012
Sometimes in real life we are guilty of repelling against another even through no fault of the individual(s) in question....we may not like another person even for doing right...

Then here some people meet online...the people one may have otherwise disliked or ignored offline or may have never given a chance may be the ones to hold such people’s interest....I guess sometimes when there is a veil of anonymity we are all for that limited existence on a balanced podium (no one is above another and no one is below another) until we talk...
And it’s true some of the vibrant characters online may be timid offline and vice versa...and it is true that some people indeed tailor their personality to appear more popular or even unpopular...but for the fact that there are some people online that we may have never had the chance to speak to or even wanted to have shared conversation with due to some personal bias or even witness their thoughts as a spectator...for those instances is it thus understandable (excluding caution for now) that romances occur at such a rate online?

But can one have genuine chemistry online and even if it may appear so will that necessarily translate offline?

And should that in which we call “love” have a barrier?

Finally, do some people look down on the online romance?
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 4:42pm On Jun 30, 2012
london2lasgidi: Basically, I don't think falling 'in love' online is real.. Online is different from real life; and judging an online character based on their online "intelligence" or superficial personality won't give you a comprehensive assessment of who they really.... We're humans, and we all have egos; and I believe most people come to forums like this to find a niche where they can endear themselves to people.......
Interesting....as regards to your last sentence I somewhat suspected that motive as well...well at least with certain individuals/forums....

However I anticipate a modern reality where “real life” and “online” will be merged in the future and perhaps even those distinct terms may be rendered redundant...
FamilyRe: Can You This To Your Daughter ? by emofine2(f): 4:31pm On Jun 30, 2012
Can you do this to your daughter or do this for your daughter?...isn't his intentions noble?

But the picture exposé on this section is enough to create a crazy album sha grin
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 4:25pm On Jun 30, 2012
claremont: Human beings have evolved primarily via physical contact with one another, the online pursuit of romance negates this very important characteristic. The question really is where would it all end?! I would argue that if this worrying trend is not controlled by those who are into it, we might start having online husband/wives, online kids e.t.c in the near future!
Well one can argue that humans are evolving with this internet age...
Lol but that may very well be in the pipeline for the future...

"By the way some people are rather open online": Exactly my point, their so-called openness online is due to an abject lack of self-confidence offline. Ideally, their behaviour should be the same in both spheres, but the mere fact that they prefer to 'open-up' only whilst hiding behind a computer keyboard may reveal deep-seated psychological, psycho-social, and/or psychiatric issues.
Hmm I believe I’m confronted with a gross generalization here....someone who is closed online isn’t necessarily more confident than those who are open online...in fact one may argue that the ones who are open are just not restrained or are rather talkative...let’s say some because I don’t want to be guilty of generalizing...

"or is "falling in love" offline to you more noble": I think everyone knows my sentiments about this madness called falling-in-love by now, no need to start flogging a dead horse. My infamous thread aptly titled "Love does not exist" refers. grin grin grin
Lol you know what I mean...okay just replace “falling in love” with romance then you’ll get the picture...

These days, the religious section seems to be devoid of thought-provoking topics. It seems to be more or less a portal for religious goons to showcase their ignorance, rather than being a portal for logical and rational debates.
Depending on those you dialogue with there’s some rather interesting discourse there from time to time...
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 4:18pm On Jun 30, 2012
sweetcocoa: Come emofine,why are you blowing too much grammar this hot afternoon? This matter is supposed to be simple but your english is make am hard now.undecided
Don’t worry you’ll certainly catch my drift from the responses... wink

london2lasgidi: I'll oblige if you're good looking, and since you live in London; the 'love' will get deeper quickly lmao......... pardon my ebonics lmao.....
So Londoners don begin converse in ebonics eh...so back to the theme of the thread...so even you fit delve in this online wantintin depending on some variables - location and looks?

Dey there my friend who knows we've probably brushed shoulders before...you kno say London na small area before grin
RomanceRe: The Type Of Grl I Go Marry by emofine2(f): 3:58pm On Jun 30, 2012
lefulefu: She must have ikebe like mzzdarkskin
That puts me out of contention then tongue
Christianity EtcRe: Does Loyalty Precede Morality? by emofine2(op): 3:45pm On Jun 30, 2012
Firestar I always admire your quiet literary style....
But this is more of a to be or not to be style question
To be loyal at certain times or to be moral at all times...
Albeit morality is subjective and sometimes loyalty may pose as a morality
I guess it’s similar to utilitarianism in some respects...

Thank you solbil but I’m just an inquisitive person.
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 3:25pm On Jun 30, 2012
claremont: People who "fall-in-love" online are not attracted to a real human being, they are attracted to the online alter-ego being presented to them. Unfortunately for these sad souls, their desperation for "love" is so much that they have lost the capacity to differentiate between a real human being and an online alter-ego. So they pursue this online alter-ego with reckless abandon, because it gives them something they desperately lack in the real world.

In addition, most people who go online in a desperate search for "love" do so because they lack the self-confidence to pursue meaningful relationships with people in the real world; this abject lack of self-confidence may be as a result of several failed relationships in the past, or it may simply be because they consider themselves physically defective as far as beauty/handsomeness is concerned i.e. (f)ugly, fat, flat-chested, skinny, e.t.c, or it may be due to a fast approaching old age and its attendant cultural consequences on a single male/female.

I'm totally against any form of online relationship, I believe human beings are social animals who can only form meaningful relationships via physical contact with one another. I would seriously question the sanity of those sad souls who ignore their fellow human beings in real life, and then choose to pursue online characters. Surely, they may have deep-seated psychiatric issues IMHO.
Admittedly I too am cynical about "falling in love" online but wow your language is quite harsh...or shall I say delievered typically in claremont fashion...

By the way some people are rather open online...wouldn't that affect some of your conclusions then? ...and even in real life people may be ambiguous...or is "falling in love" offline to you more noble?

OFF-TOPIC, where have you been hiding?! cool
I've been "hiding" or set up camp rather in the religious board.
RomanceRe: Do People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op): 3:18pm On Jun 30, 2012
london2lasgidi: are you in love with an online character? lmao........................ you must be really not good looking to fall in love online lmao...

fall in love with me..... and I'll supply all your needs.
angry Well currently I perhaps “need” you to vacate my thread so yes I will fall in “love” with you if you’ll oblige grin
RomanceDo People Fall In Love Faster Online? by emofine2(op):
I use the term "love" loosely although I suppose it is subjective....but do people catch feelings online at a faster rate than in their dealings in real life?

People have their various reasons and intentions for coming online and some things are much more spontaneous than planned but does the internet engineer some attraction between otherwise distant strangers?

Online in this anonymous and often unpredictable arena most of our thoughts (whether they just be fractions or even fabricated) are laid completely bare and can even be trailed or leave an impression on another. So maybe there is more of a chance on the web because some seemingly attractive characters are not instantly judged by their appearance - so in the internet it may be love at first thought....but then perhaps due to exposure to a higher concentration of people via a medium such as the web, feelings may occur at at higher rate...

So if the personality of particular characters is what instantly attracts another perhaps the internet is a practical medium....but then again attraction may not necessarily be sparked off by personality or even looks although one or the other may form the final conclusion of a person’s attraction or even repulsion.

However do many just misinterpret their own fascination with another as..."love"?...lipsrsealed...afterall one may love someone's humour, love their thoughts or even may love their profile pictures.... grintongue

Maybe some are more conscious of what they say, do and feel online.

P.S. Just to clarify I am not talking about dating sites.
Christianity EtcDoes Loyalty Precede Morality? by emofine2(op):
This is a question aimed at all but in particular for believers.

Sometimes our loyal inclination may clash with our moral obligation and even loyalty may sometimes pose as a morality.

Morality too may be subjective as some people's moral framework is attuned to their religious, societal or cultural laws or may just differ from person to person.

However no matter what our personal beliefs may be, in certain situations we may lend support to even those whose moral code may contrast with our own.

But sometimes we put our loyalties first and at times we may even have good reasons to or perhaps particular circumstances may call for it.

But in the case where morality is ascribed a governor - a deity - if one's god was said to order his/her subject to commit an act that in the process will undermine a particular moral code.....does that particular command at that requested time become a temporary virtue or is such a believer compelled to place loyalty over morality....

Just for the record this at all is not meant to be an entrapping question so I hope believers don't mind my asking because even in the secular world many are still faced with such a scenario of bending the rules. And so the question can still be interpreted and answered by unbelievers but certainly tailored to their own reality.
Christianity EtcRe: Deapsight, N Nwankwo, Justcool,kay 17, Martian ,et Al, Lets Discuss Spirituality by emofine2(f): 11:26am On Jun 30, 2012
plaetton: Both the christian and moslem dream of leaving this earth behind to live in a spiritual heaven or paradise after.
The thing that I truly cannot comprehend is that the spiritual destination of the so called righteous of the world's major religions is teeming with materialism...

These spiritual abodes are just like a material world embelished with extraordinary beauty, containing extraterrestrial characters and of course the absence of pain.

Unless spirituality is exactly that - pure happiness (although I question if every individual can be truly happy in a perpetual servitude role in relation to a divine authority) and peace and if it is exactly that couldn't such be achieved here on earth?...Well of course not because in our mortal existence there would always be pain attached to a loss...spirituality (at least in the major religions) is similar to "Neverland"...you don't age, you don't die you don't lack...it is thus a perfect existence for many...and many will want to aim for such...and so it does make sense that people will want to live in a perfect reality but to spark ones interest via the materialsitc nature whilst at the same time encouraged to debase that nature does not at all make sense to me because it appears slightly contradictory...

But I do wonder in regards to the major faiths....in order to arouse or appeal to ones spiritual senses is ones materialistic nature first coaxed?

Is materialism and spirituality compatible?


Albeit I think if you have love for your fellow man, appreciate nature, the universe and all that surrounds (and that includes science) and our role in it and not debasing other inhabitants regarding them as lesser creatures such as animals or even the plants and those of a different sex...take one's ego aside and humble your self...maintaining a healthy lifestyle...sustain a conscious connection to the source of life or at least search for that source of life...aim to discover truths for oneself...engage your mind...and express that in non-harmful or superior ways....not having a great fancy for much that is materialitic but of course catering to ones own needs and still very much open-minded but not in the manner of "anything goes"....seeking to learn from others and not only teach at the same time being very much realistic about life and continually evolving with it....that in itself may add a greater volume not only to the one that exhibits all this but to our environment...but not everybody is compatible with such a kind of life..a transcendent sort of lifestyle...so it may become far-reaching for the greater population and thus a dream...and dreams never realized don't exist in the material world..or beyond the mind...

But I do not envision winged characters or gold streets to be a reflection of anything spiritual not even remotely if so I'm sure just the corridors alone of Elton Johns mansion will reflect a preview of that sort of existence that is considered "spiritual"...

A spiritual life may be rewarding for the one who genuinely exercises it but I don't regard spirtuality as a reward in itself.
SportsRe: Wimbledon 2012 by emofine2(f): 8:53pm On Jun 29, 2012
phew!.... grin
EducationRe: Chibundu Onuzo Named Best Black Student In UK by emofine2(f): 7:32pm On Jun 29, 2012
She’s so beautiful...well done to her although I must say I detest this patronising term of “best black student”. Achievement shouldn't be colour coded afterall is she and others like her not fit to be placed in the same category as her Caucasian colleagues....
That aside, I do anticipate reading this young lady’s debut novel.

london2lasgidi: how's she the best black student in uk studying history? lmao............. she isn't top50 in the uk.... what was her GCSE and A-levels result??..... best black student in the uk doing history at kings college.. lmao..

this forum is becoming more useless by day..
Kings College is a top university not only in the UK but in the world and this isn't solely based on results or esteemed institutions rather achievement...undecided

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