₦airaland Forum

Dambudzo: African Christians are grateful for the missionaries that arrived on the continent because in their deluded minds without these intruders we would have forever been a lost bunch. Never mind the scandalous and brutal entry in which this faith was carted in and the things we have lost as a continent because of this carcinogenic agent, but what does that matter if we have gained the infallible “truth”, right ? There is a name for this kind of behaviour, actually it is a mental illness called Stockholm syndrome whereby a kidnap victim becomes sympathetic to his captors.

"we are not to yield to the persecution of criticism... We should not listen to those opinions...we are entitled not to listen to their critical views....

would you attribute any misdeed of a selected few to the whole of Islam?

For sure there are muslim extremists but should dat be the fault of Islam as a whole?

Bisalame

We muslims respect all other religions before the coming of the prophet(christianity included) but under no circumstance will you find a muslim insulting prophet Isa (A.S.W) known as Jesus.

It is certain that islam is the religion of peace but for some extremist activities mixed with loads of political propaganda, Islam in Nigeria has been changed and generalized to be otherwise. This is when you ask your self, why has there not been any concrete esposure of the so called boko haram even when the president confirmed he knows then? By the way, why didn't anyone tag millitancy as a christian insurgency even when they continually crippled the productivity of the nation by blowing up pipelins at will?......please ask ur self nd reason deep.

Meanwhile, the disrespect on our Prophet Mohammad (S.A.W) displayed by a lot of christains is enough to provoke a religious war at all times. Some metally derailed folks don't even knw that God means Allah(in arabi)....but go on to commit all level of blasphemy.

When I was in school, in a brief arguement for change, an igbo guy looked onto an Uztaz(islamic school student) and said to him, "even your prophet Mohammed(S.A.W) can't come and collect dis money from me. To be honest the guy left nd came back some minutes later, burnt down the guys shop and nothing followed....who's at a lose?

Please caution yourself and limit the hate

ghostofsparta: Seriously I can't grasp your constructions.

ghostofsparta: If the capabilities of Eshu or Ogun was proven to you, would you still think they don't exist ? ofcourse not in our dimension or realm of existence.

JeSoul: Hmmm...unless I'm misunderstanding (emofine pls correct if I am) but it doesn't appear that logicboy understood your point here, the simple "I agree" is indicative of that.

Ayomivic: But the question is could all these group of believers right?If the answer to this question is No,then who is right and who is wrong?

The pagans said they only believe in deities,by this they are worshiping things that God creats such as moon,sun,stars,tree,iron,stone,water to metion the view

logicboy: You are on the wrong side according to all religions apart from christianity. Have you ever thought about that? What if the God that exists is Allah or Odin? Would you not be in muslim or pagan hell?

queensmith: Thats a very very good question, was talking about this yesterday. In one of Karl Marx's books (or the other dude i forget) he talks about how in Africa god was was an overweight woman. When the europeans travelled through africa and noticed this they felt insulted and before you know it god now looks like a french whitehaired man. It's weird. I remember thinking that casting morgan freeman as 'god' in the movie bruce almighty was weird, and it's obvious to me now that that was the whole point.
Why is god envisioned as a european white man instead of a black woman? Since the middle class white man is at the top of the social hierarchical scale it's very possible that the whole idea of god is just an imaginative form of our real lives. An exaggeration of current realities. The book was pretty interesting!

Goldieluks: So what you are saying in a nut shell is that, you don't believe in the existence of God,
because you read a karl Marx book?

shymmex: When I said "voodoo" - I meant the sacrifices involved in some African spirituality.. IFA philosophy doesn't deal with sacrifices, and rituals - it's just higher learning about creation, and how to connect to the supreme being directly - it's similar to metaphysics and religion (without the allegories, remixes, and the boogeymen involved in religion). It's a direct connection... I'm still learning about it, and hopefully, I will be able to learn more when I visit ile-ife sometime next year.

That was a typo. I believe God definitely has to be a woman (or feminine) because the first creation definitely has to be a woman - and since we were created in his image.

sauer: What do you seek to achieve when you say god is a man or a woman, or when you try to stay within the limits logic affords you and claim god has no sex?

shymmex: That's more reason why a self taught learner adapts faster to the realities of life - than someone who's formally educated.. Formal education doesn't necessarily develop the intellect to cope with the harsh realities of life, it's indoctrination (just as religion is) to enable people meet the status quo, and follow the 'fundamentals' of the world - as prescribed by the miniscule few, who literally "own" the world. But this is a topic for another day...

Spirituality and humanism may be parallel - but anyone who believes there's no divine authority, is either dishonest, or just ignorant (but who am I to judge people?)... I basically believe that 'thing' which makes us connect naturally, spiritually, and metaphysically - with the atmosphere, other living things, and our surrounding is the divine authority.. There are so many things that happens in our lives, surroundings, and in the atmosphere everyday - that can't be explained physically, and scientifically... That particular 'thing' which enables these mysterious things to happen - is the supreme being, and divine authority to me..

If you can study the IFA PHILOSOPHY (not the other voodoo crap), you will get a better understanding of what the diving authority really is - and how you can relate to it directly.

shymmex: I BELIEVE IN GOD - AND HE LIVES INSIDE IN ME!

logicboy: Read my post again. I am not one for burning books. I am just asking a controversial question.

shymmex: I think it's a natural way of connecting to the maker directly, without having to go through anyone - since we're naturally spiritual beings.. It allows more freedom, and enables people radiate their internal humanistic gifts such as: love, compassion, patience, tolerance, forgiveness, contentment, responsibility, harmony, and a concern for others - without having to follow any written blueprint....

shymmex: Hmmm, I like the 'irreligious' bit.

What do you think about spirituality?

michelin89: I don't believe in opening people's eye to the evil of anything. Religion or the lack of it is a very personal thing. The same way you don't go around questioning people about their sexuality, is the same way we should respect the religious choice of one another.

The desire to uniform people to ourselves is what is generating so much hatred and rivalry in the world today. Should we learn to exploit our differences instead of using them as an excuse to fight each other, this world would be a better place to live.

Differences are not always a minus so much that people can love themselves because of their differences like they can love themselves because of their similarities.

shymmex: ^^^^Are you an atheist?

foyeks2001: my bible tells me that '' do not be equally yoked with unbelievers'' meaning d suppose partner can as well influences ur faith in God be it positively or negatively....but always good to be on a safer side....so it is a capital NO for me

Ptolomeus: Hello dear friend Emofine. How are you?
Not all "gods are equal"
Here we are talking about the Judeo-Christian god ...
I'm just going to take one example, which I hope will be vivid and clear.
Question: For Jews and Christians, adultery is a sin? Yes or no?
If the answer is "yes," then ask him to Judeo-Christian god why did not punish David? Solomon? Noah? and so many other sinners? On the contrary ... were his proteges!
I think that answers the question.
As I said before, depends on God we are talking about.
Un beso de amigo!

Moderrator: An atheist tried to "open" my eyes yesterday during an arguement by challenging me to provide evidence that God exists.
The only proof i had was a miracle i had witnessed in the past. But he wouldn't believe that because i didn't have the evidence with me there.
So how can i prove in such cases that God exists? Taking into account that nearly all atheists are very logical in reasoning and tend to be "intelligent".

ghostofsparta: Emofine, what is your understanding of term 'witchcraft'? Do you think it's the same thing with what the Yorubas call 'Aje'?

Both corruption and greed are just part of the several human nature which is mainly triggered and fuelled by X. Let us assume X to be 'the absence of certain conditioning force or check and balances'. If X is a triggerer of malevolent human nature, then there must be Y which is the opposite of the purpose of X because it suppresses the triggering effect of X.

Y is not to inspire fear but to enforce a condition that counteract the triggering result of X where it will self-act whenever the condition in which it was programmed is breached.

Why can't we implement Y into the equation of our reality here in Yorubaland if not Nigeria?


And no the swearer can't be made immune by even a deity/god he personally propitiates in his home provided he has sworn an oath under another deity. Yoruba cosmogony is similar to computer GIGO (garbage in garbage out)... When anyone or leader is to swear under these deities, every possible turnaround would also be sworn into it as 'if I shall in anyway attempt to reverse or appeal to...in order to exempt myself from the wrath of....may Z happen.

Seun: Can you please explain the symbolism in the last picture?

Jenwitemi: I don't see creation as an act of interference, emofine.

991: that would be the best, the diety of my village kills exactly 4days from the day you break the oath.

ghostofsparta: Do you know the name of the deity? Would like to add it to my research.

buzugee: HAD a chosen people, simply because only the chosen people existed initially. however that situation has been rectified. jesus has come to unite both jew and gentiles under the law. as such the chosen people are those who love the Lord by obeying his commands regardless of race color class creed height weight etc etc

however he still only works through the jews as a matter of protocol. nothing subjective about that.