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She returns to her root. Islam is home. There are many ex-muslims like this in churches right now that are deceived by pastors. COVID-19 probably partially opened her eyes more just like many other christians still thinking whether or not to return home(Islam). This is the moment of truth.

Islam is FITRA i:e natural way of life ordained for all mankind by God. At some point in life you get to feel the impact of this fitra when it kicks in.


In Islam thou heart finds rest.

whitelotus:
We are focusing on Islam, pointing fingers and making false allegations about Christians will never help your case.

What is a 50 year old man doing with a 14 year old girl in marriage? That is what we are talking about. Not some misguided hoodrat youth who live with you in the ghetto.

Tell me where a responsible Christian or atheist will see his underage daughter having sex and permit it? This is unlike muslims where educated parents will be giving their 14 year old daughter for marriage.

Oh, "hoodrat" in the context gave you an edge, abi?. Well, that's my fault but thanks for reminding me. Do yourself a favor and back search this thread. You get to see descent young people having babies. I posted them here last year. Do some research. You are boring

whitelotus:
1. The quick burials of possible coronavirus victims that denies autopsies for investigation

2. They fact that imams are sacked for closing mosques during quarantine. Or that muslims in the Norrh still do to mosque despite quarantine.

You can talk all you want but there is a difference between a southern muslim and a northern muslim. When sharia law puts islam before anything and any religion, it tends to make muslims bigoted and intolerant. The only know Islam and they can use laws to oppress religious minorities because the law gives them power. They even use Islam to oppress the government. Their Jumaat comes before any Government law. Non muslims cannot drink.

I dont have problems with muslims but I have problems with sharia as a national law. It is unconstitutional and it causes a lot of ignorance.

Ogbeni, jadanu. You have no point. Both muslims and christians who violated lockdown were paraded. Same in the Southwest. And this is not restricted to Nigeria. Same happened in Pakistan. Same happened in USA. They are paraded by law enforcement. Same happened in Israel where Rabbis defiled social distancing and placed their religious law first. Report said that 40 rabbis from the religious gathering later tested positive for coronavirus.

So your attempt is clear that you are after muslims and islam. That's what you hate. Period.

Tolani0167:
Buy as in buy, how did we get into this mess.........am waiting.

Yes, BUY. I dont wanna help the spread of the 30 seconds clip until i can confirm the translations are indeed accurate. However, we all know what's going on already. I watched a 5mins clip yesterday with several african presidents including Nigeria (Buhari) and Ghana Akufo (Nana Akufo-Addo) parked up behind Chinese president accounting for their debt. At least they are over 10 African presidents and Chinese president was addressing them about the debts. This was in English. The scene made me sad. It is like Daddy speaking to his children. See how relegated Africa is?. How in the world do we expect China to respect Africans in their country?.

Anyways allow me to attach screenshot(s) from the clip. I am yet to receive reply from my chinese friend.

advocatejare:
I can see that Anti.hristian Empi.ree Ra.hduct4luv all of una are fidgety of the revelation I'm making about your religion that's why you're deleting my comments.

That doesn't stop the fact that Ramadan fasting just like other 4 pillars of Islam are of pagan origin

Ramadan is 9th month of Islamic calendar. As a christian, do you fast as Jesus and his true followers fasted?. No christian in the world today fast 40 days and 40 nights. According to the Bible, in the book of Matthew shows that Jesus “fasted forty days and forty nights” (Matthew 4:21). The Gospel of Luke adds the detail that “in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered” (Luke 4:2). Since Jesus fasted, his true followers will also fast, if they indeed follow his teachings. He said, “If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed” (John 8:31).


Now, in the book of Jeremiah 36:9 reads:


"In the ninth month of the fifth year of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah, a time of fasting before the Lord was proclaimed for all the people in Jerusalem and those who had come from the towns of Judah."



So you can see prophets and righteous people had always fasted mandatory fasting in the 9th month of the year as islamic Ramadan is also 9th month. So how is muslim fast of Ramadan a pagan origin?. It was the same fast that Jesus fasted. So if you are not fasting as Jesus fasted you are not his follower. You are keferi

O ya, start arguing but i dont have your time

Tolani0167:
The country is seemingly doomed

it is sad. I just watched a 30 seconds video of Chinese president giving speech about buying african countries.

Right now, I have sent the video to my Chinese friend to confirm the translation is true before I post it.

Once he gets back to me I will post it.

According to the translation he said:


they ( I believe he's referring to some African leaders) want us (China) to buy Africa and we (China) said we can not buy all African countries at a time. We have to buy you on first come first serve bases. We have bought Zambia (paraphrased)

Sufisunni:
This is misleading. Minimum marriage age for girls in Muslim countries: Egypt, 18: Indonesia, Turkey and Qatar, 16; Iraq, 15; Jordan, 15; Kuwait, 15; Malaysia and Somalia, 16; Mauritania, Oman, UAE and Morroco, 18. The above listed countries have the largest muslim population in the world, perhaps 80 to 90% of world muslims.
USA has 12 yrs as minimum age of marriage!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news-19/the-lowest-age-you-can-legally-get-married-around-the-world-10415517.html

Naturally, human is self fish and tends to explore any opportunity for nothing sake, but self ends. No where in Qur'an is marriage age mentioned, but puberty and maturity --mental development were explicitly mentioned in Qur'an. Marriage varies from era and region, And that's left for society to decide but puberty and mental development must not be compromised.

He and his fellow clowns are on a mission. That's why he's not ready to accept your view. I have given them evidences from western countries several times but they either turn the other way or twist my posts on the topic. They also refused to accept the fact that most of the so called "underage" girls in the west are actually promiscuous. Before most of them turn 15 they are already disvirgined by hoodrat. When i brought this up they said nothing. Their method is that you can sleep around even if you're underage but you just can not get married. They have no solution to this. They do this right now in nigeria. It is supported by church leaders. A man exposed this in his lecture some years ago whereby they prefer girls to be single and sleep around, have kids by different men than to marry. Yet they form holier than thou

Sufisunni:
Pedophilia is not in Islam, no one can substantiate this in Islam

Dont mind him. He's a clown

Jarus:
I enjoy doing construction projects because I’m bad at keeping money. 5th house - spread across 3 states (4 built, 1 bought).

To Allah be the glory.

This is smart move, brother. Tie down your money with investment. We kinda think the same. I like smart people. I like people that live off govt assistance. This is why i like Real Estate. I like forward thinking people.

espn:
Only in Nigeria will foreign bodies come into with confidence and tap into our resources...both human and natural resources without fear...This Albion's get mind ooo...See as dem be like corona...

Tolani0167:
Deal with them, I have some of them in Gombe state mining our resources

investigate Oba and local authorities. They most likely took bribe from them and gave these chinko right to do as they wish.

Remember the movie "Saworoide"

whitelotus:
Em.piree,

Are you seeing your muslim brothers in Kano?

Damn. I hope you can see what sharia law does to people. This is what happens when religion is uncontrolled. Ignorance and intolerance fills the land.

I am not blaming Islam for the foolishness of some people in Kano. I am blaming theocracy in the form of sharia. If one wants to be a muslim, that is fine but it should be done in a secular environment.

Food for thought

Put on your thinking cap. Sharia commands justice. Is it shari'a when a boy steals a loaf of bread and he's sentenced to 1yr behind bars. But a politician steals billions of naira but he's only asked to return 1/3 of the stolen funds and walks free?.

You should know the answer by now.

Besides, is what you are accusing North for not subsist in the Westside in some form or manner?.


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I have just read from the front page. What's this gotta do with Sharia?. What's going on in kano needs some serious investigation. I suspect foul play or a siniter to get something out of this.

Even in modern world like New York which is the epicenter of COVID-19, there have been hundreds of deaths everyday but these people were tested positive and have been on ventilators or some sorts of ICU for weeks and months before they succumbed but incident going on in kano needs to be investigated.

This has nothing to do with Sharia because I don't know what you wanna gain here. You probably wanna say they don't follow health guidance that's why they are dying. Is the same thing not going on in Lagos and other places where folks defiled orders?.

Nigeria can not move forward when you guys point fingers and play politics with lives. I can see PDP playing politics in Kano by trying to catch in while you play religious card.

First Acadip TV program. Alhamdulilah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6nXwzor3CQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCO81xzN3c8

This is what we want. He has set up his online program like Risalatul Haq Dawah International


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7D7-maSjU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jlmST-1yGs

JasonJidenna:
This brings us to the question if we want the LOCKDOWN to continue or not.



Died from a sickness you know nothing about.... Really sad.


May their souls rest peacefully.

It is normal for some covid-19 patients to die. Their death is not evidence of worse case scenario. Their deaths are flattening the curve. The most important is new cases. If you keep having huge new cases that's the problem.

So i dont support unreasonable lockdown but whoever wants to play safe and stay indoor is free to do that. What i think govt should do is reopen economy and enforce social distancing and face cover. Unfortunately govt can not enforce social distancing with trending corrupt system in the country with respect to law enforcement taking bribe. A lot is wrong with Africa. A lot is wrong with Nigeria.

LadunaI:
Happy Ramadan Kareem to all my Muslim bothers and sister here. May almighty Allah continue to protect, forgive, bless and guide us all. Amin

Ramadan Mubarak!

Allahu Akram

whitelotus:
It seems that you have nothing to say.

Audio volunteer

whitelotus:
What makes you think that I have not?

I volunteer for an NGO in Nigeria that gives to the less privileged. I sponsor those who educate girls in local areas about sex, rape and contraceptives.

The nairaland religion section is littered with hundreds of my threads criticising the excesses of religion, mostly christianity.


You, Lanre.xlan and many other muslims do nothing. You only know how preach islam. Conservative islam not even the liberal islam that is palatable.



You are like an ant questioning me. Not to talk of your brother lanre.xlan that finished school recently. People with 10 years working experience are more humble than that guy.

Audio volunteer. Audio NGO. Nigerian NGO are bunch of crooks. So you are one of those NGOs looting donors money. You are noted

whitelotus:
So if Boko Haram is chasing you and you see me in a fast car that could speed out of the dangerous environment and free you, WOULD YOU STILL ARGUE THAT IT IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS SINCE I AM NOT A MUSLIM?

Why dont you pick up your campagn speaker against kids accused of witchcrafts so we know you are a true activist?

whitelotus:
I am not a Christian and I am not a Jew. [s]Furthermore, paedophilia is worse in islam compared to other religions. Many muslims feel that the sharia gives them rights to marry girls off at puberty. Christians and jews submit to secular laws, unlike muslims who mostly follow the sharia.

To compare your problems in underage marriage to christianity and other religions is like an armed robber saying that a pickpocket is bad.[/s]

Then it is none of your business. Case closed

Program has started

https://www.facebook.com/www.risalatulhaqdawah.org/videos/248883183022688/

Even in Ramadan they have no respect

whitelotus:
Two wrongs do not make a right.

oh I see "Two wrongs do not make a right" but you picked on Islam and Muslims as scapegoat. Hypocrite. We know your type.

Better address the paedophilia problem in islam before you start pointing fingers at others.

you have already said "Two wrongs do not make a right." So if you can not speak truthfully then you should keep your mouth zipped. Fair enough?. There is no pedophilia in Islam.

I'm happy that IMAliyu has confessed that conservative muslims do not want to change this tradition of believing girls are ripe for marriage at puberty. IMAliyu sees what is wrong in this practice.

stop being hypocritical. Read his comment very well. Don't capitalize on his point. Address those other religions mentioned too or keep quiet. Marrying underage is more about tradition than religion. It is up to govt of that particular region to fix it. You have more than worse than underage marriage to worry about in Nigeria and other CHRISTIAN places. You have Jewish baby killers that you need to worry about.



[s]You, Lanrex.lan and Rilway.ne001 do not see anything wrong in a 50 year old man marrying a 14 year old girlfriend in Saudi Arabia[/s].

I will keep calling you out till you stop supporting this practice.

in your country Nigeria, you have worse than underage marriage. It is in your country that CHRISTIANs see a sickened child as a suspected witch. Same in other Christian dominated African countries. They stone babies to death for the alleged witchcraft. Yet you are here pretending to care so much about teenagers married to grown men.

God punish hypocrisy

sagenaija:
Fake!!!

CAN manifesto is fake?

Update

whitelotus:
Abegi. There are muslims in many corners of lagos. Some places that you need boats to reach. It is only christian charities that go to that side. The Muslim charities only focus on large muslim dominated areas.

Islam doe not save you from coronavirus.

Let just say you are not ready to listen. Christians you mentioned are only doing business. They don't do charity for God's sake. They have their mission. Besides, charity you are talking is most likely govt and the people distributing food are christians and they use the opportunity to display their logo. For instance, Ogun state. Dapo Abiodun displays their christian logos all over his govt office. That's christian tricks for you. Same way when govt place charity on thier behalf, they turn it to religious organization.

[quote author=whitelotus post=88825080][/quote]Why are you talking about America(secular)?. Why dont you focus purely on jewish and christian religious marriage. Do your research and you get to see lots of dirt. Stop spamming monikers upandan

lanrexlan:
Please stop spamming my mentions and stop lying too. Are you bored Logicboy?

Oh he is logicboy again

Omo ale ni boy yen sha

You dey mind him?. He is a loser. They deliberately target islam and muslim while ignoring their own fasad. For in stance, they continue to throw insults at nabi(SAW) being pedo while ignoring their pope and vatican and priests. They are hypocrites. I dont support marrying a child to elderly but I will continue to put up argument with them to mess with their head cus they dont wanna listen.

IMAliyu:
The reason they defend it is because a number of you guys try to make it a point to call Muslims and the prophet pedophiles, not for any reason, but to insult. Because of something that was seen as a norm for the time.

They made examples with Marry mother of Jesus's age at the time she was got married to Joseph. and Popes that were married to young girls. To show that this view was not limited to the Arab or Islamic world.

The very idea that a girl needs to be 18 to be of marriage or consent age is a recent( like 100 years recent) modern concept.
And not every place even agrees on the appropriate age.
In some parts of Europe the age of consent is 16 and in some prefectures of Japan the age is as low as 14.

In Nigeria in rural areas regardless of religion, girls aged from 13 to 16 are often being married off to older men.

It's like being angry at your great grandfather because he married your great grandmother when she was 12-16.

Although, another argument some make is that to curb sexual immorality in the society this is necessary (early marriages) .

Anyway, Now my point was not to justify or defend this actions (we know a lot more now than we did back then), but to put things into perspective.
Yes it's common in Nigeria's Muslim population, but that doesn't mean that everyone agrees with it or that there aren't attempts to discourage and stop it.

whitelotus:
It is funny how religion doesn't impart any physical solutions in life.

Islam or being a muslim wont save you from covid19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9pYkeJCnzg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6vaMBEdQPk

It wont even save you from being broke and hungry during lockdown. You are more likely to get charity from christian and secular groups.

Alhamdulillah, we dont show off like christians do. We don't do charity with price tag or string attached like christians do. We do charity for God's sake. If you are interested in winning price regardless of your religion, kindly join the two muslim men ramadan quizzes. They are giving gifts and money to alleviate this lockdown season. Thank you for bringing up our attention.


Below are facebook pages for Jamiu Adegunwa where lectures and Q&A hold

https://www.facebook.com/risalatul.haqdawah?__tn__=%2Cd-]-h-R&eid=ARDS5zLOED8M70TvJNDE0Tn5IxQgvA1DDrLHHKSoLiwsBlZ8uDOl0iEBBKUCav4FNeI7ehvxylUDVzVv

https://www.facebook.com/samod.tunde.18?__tn__=%2Cd-]-h-R&eid=ARCnw6A-Ngc4kqI2ZGf-QDD_3WIy32290R8X2pFEd9TWjcsPivI8ZdvQX6Hq3wL7IIgmuiKIE_c4_N_M

https://www.facebook.com/ustazjamiu.adegunwa?__tn__=%2Cd-]-h-R&eid=ARCuFXC8c1R158lybfIrTTwAS5C70DAdw7DEGFh6SMU3OGCyYS3PWbMFeWsNOZqXzFfC7ogaH1lAUtny

From latest information I have, Ustaz Jamiu quiz program starts tomorrow Saturday. It holds on Saturday, Monday and Wednesday



Alfa OniQuran
https://www.facebook.com/ISLAM-FIRST-TV-2284467041838538/?epa=SEARCH_BOX

This Alfa OniQuran starts this Sunday. He also hold quis several days a week. I urge you to call in to win price. It is open to everyone. Even if you dont know the answer and you are not a muslim, tell them and something will be sent to your account.



You may have to check their facebook pages for update

whitelotus:
Thanks for being honest about it.

We have three muslims here who defend this underage marriage. .

They all claim that there is nothing wrong or point out that some Christians do it too.

basilico:
The Yankees will shoot down that satellite down

African slave. U must be CHRISTIAN