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AlBaqir:
# Why are you driving backward, bro? The fanatics that even consider Jumu'ah greetings among fellow Muslims as Bid'ah, and here you are asking "if non-muslim greets them for Jumu'ah"!

True, i just feel like there are more important issues to deal with than this crap. Since trump announcement, i feel uncomfortable, and that's the biggest challenge for muslims.

I don't understand how this holiday greeting is "aqeedah" issue. Fatwa up there simply stretched it unnecessarily. If holiday greetings are act of kufr, how about Days Of The Week which are not islamic but names of colonial gods?. Don't these brothers use these names in schools and for daily activities?. I am sure they would call fellow muslims kufar over this if they get the chance. In that case they are guilty of the same for using gregorian days of the week which is kinda biblical.

Rashduct4luv:
See Aqeedah?

I am just wondering if non-muslims greet you on jummah, eld etc. How do you feel and do you respond to them or not?. Fatwa up there did not say about if non-muslims greet us on our holidays.

jeruzi:
My understanding is not deficient and can never be. I have the mind of Christ. I saw ahead. I knew this would happen. I was not looking for a friend in you, it was a debate and you couldn't stand your ground. They have the land now and nothing can take it. The picture is before all, let's see how it plays out.

shaking my head. Keep serving European Jewish god

^^^ And i believe thats not for me, is it?

There are lots of pressing issues bothering this ummah, this bullsh!t is not one of them.

Nothing wrong with greetings. Greeting is not tantamount to accepting their creed. What Qur'an says is Do Not Join Them In Worship

Don't they greet us on Eld?

Don't they greet us on Jumu‘ah?

What you need to do is to be distinctive in matter is ibadat. If we can enter church to preach or to give interfaith dialogue, what's wrong with greetings? .

It is greeting damn it.


If you can't say "a ku ódún oo", at least you can say "ę ku ódún ooo". Niyah (intention) preceeds action.

emekaRaj:
Season greeting to you brother. Em.piree it's been a while. How is everything. Peace and blessings of Allah be with you.

walaikum salaam akhi, alhamdulilah, I'm okay. How about yourself?

Fundamentalist:
Chai ...... Even when proofs are shown to you .

Should I start categorizing you with shaheedbinaliyu

everytime you jumped into a pull, you just swim without knowing how deep pool is. I cover my head in shame for you

yazach:
I think he quoted some books which should be easy to access, if those things are found in the books and we are able to prove that the books belong to the group, we Should unanimously condemn the group because the points totally against our deen

there are pseudo in everything. There are fake tijjaniya ppl. But the book op quoted is coded. It is not as easy as ABC. Once again, what op posted is mixed of haq and batil, and I know where he copied it from.

I didn't want to waste my time on this that's why I keep off. Not much tijjaniya ppl here, but I have answers forwarded to my mailbox already since months ago. Will share only if I want to.

yazach:
I advice we try not to deviate from the points raises by op, because I noticed that we have successfully deviate from the topic. Those points raised by the op needs to be proven false but if they are true or we are unable to refute them, we might be sleeping with burning dire on our roof

op is mixed up. So you can't get answer you want here. You will need to forward it to learned tijjaniya. No tijjaniya here. It is a waste of time.

However, some answers are already forwarded to my email since this thread was open, but bcus op isn't interested in anything, so I keep it quite as it is.

jeruzi:
I told you that I do not want to delve deep into religion on this matter, but you insisted on it.
I asked if you will be open minded,you said it is not a matter of being open minded
I posed some questions to you, you said they were lumped up.
I posed some questions to you again, this time very well spaced, you said they are some how.

Now you are quoting falsehood to defend your errors.

Your quran talks about the Torah, Tenahk, The Holy Bible (Old and new testament). None of these satifies your quran.

We judge scriptures with scriptures, mohammed condemned all. When even Jesus that is higher than all quoted from it and did not condemn any, But He came to fulfill it. Jesus referred the people to the Books to confirm that He is the messiah.
Yet mohammed says they are all wrong.
My question to you amongst the ones I asked before is;
What is mohammed trying to hide? I want you to give your life to Jesus Christ. He is Lord.

your understanding is quite deficient, and I think it is a waste of time to try to argue this out. You are not israeli. You are not a Jew. So you have no business defending oppression. Christians are cohoot in oppression and oppressors and their supporters can never be my friends. When America gives back America to Red Indians, only then Israel's claim may worth consideration

RedPanda:
@Empiree;

some quick thoughts with you.

The first thing most Islamists should consider is that if you want an Islamic country with full sharia everywhere you should consider the partition of the country so you can have your Islamic state. Sharia can never be implemented across broad in a country like Nigeria where half of the country is non-muslim. So, it is better for the Islamist to agitate for their own country. They seem to be afraid to do this. This is what happened in Pakistan;Sudan etc.

Now the only way to live in peace and Unity is to have a secular constitution which bans a state religion. Nigeria was colonised by the british and thank goodness for that...so we have that christian background and framework. Our forefathers erred by retaining the entrapment called Nigeria when given the chance for independence, they should have each gone their separate ways maybe the North would be like Sudan now and we can all live in peace.

Now on the issues, the right to freedom of religion is not an absolute right. In any case, In a secular country like Nigeria that has banned the notion of a state religion, organisations have the right to determine the dress code of its members in the organisation. This is an organisational right that doesn't infringe on anybody's secular rights. I will say this in another way, it doesn't constitute discrimination if an organisation decides to implement religious neutral clothing across board in a secular country. This should be obvious to any intelligent mind. It is a matter for the NBA or the college of benchers to determine for their organisation how the organisational members should be dressed when identifying with the organisation or carrying out its duties.. If you don't agree with such then don't join or go there. it's very simple.

some people are pretty until they open their mouth

jeruzi:
If the worship of the one and true living God was passed down from generation to generation among the Jews. Then I ask you again
1) What was the god of the preislamic mecca?
2) What was the name of the quarysh (mohammed's tribe) god?
3) What was mohammed's gradfather's duty.
4) What was mohammed's father's name?
5) What was the kaaba to them?

With this few questions to start with, what then was passed unto mohammed?

Anser the question above.

your question gets as it be. Point is, they did not worship God. They deviated from the religion of Abraham and moses that was passed down to them. Your Bible attests to this.




Exodus 32

1: When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, “Come, make us gods who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.”

2: Aaron answered them, “Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me.”

3: So all the people took off their earrings and brought them to Aaron.

4: He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf, fashioning it with a tool. Then they said, “These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.”

5: When Aaron saw this, he built an altar in front of the calf and announced, “Tomorrow there will be a festival to the Lord.”

6: So the next day the people rose early and sacrificed burnt offerings and presented fellowship offerings. Afterward they sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.

Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt. 8 They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, ‘These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.’




See the bolded, that's lies. Nabi Harun(Aaron) did not calf idol for them. They are the one that crafted golden calf and worshipped idols. This is one of the many lies fabricated in your Judeo/christian books against God's prophets. Quran repudiates their lies in similar story.



Read @underrlined, your bible attests that they are curropt. They corrupted the religion handed down to them. Qur'an says:







Surah 7, verses 152 reads as follows:

"(As for) those who took the calf (for worship), surely wrath from their Lord and humiliation shall overtake them, and thus do We recompense the devisers of lies."


This verse refers to the story of the golden calf made and worshipped by the Israelites after their exodus from Egypt. While Moses (Musa (a.s.)) was in communion with God on the heights of mount Sinai, while revelation was in the process of being sent down to him, while God was manifesting His presence to Moses and divulging to him the secrets of creation and of the structure of religion, some of the Israelites (under the direction and supervision of a person called Samiri) constructed and worshipped a statue of a golden calf.


In Sura 20 (verses 85 to 98), the qur'an tells the story of how Samiri deceived the people with the golden calf. When Moses departs for Sinai, his whole being is suffused with the power of the Divine attraction that calls him to Itself. Samiri notices something in the dust of the footsteps of Moses. It is as if there is a trace, a perfume, a presence left behind in the footsteps of those who are close to God. Samiri is able to discern this presence where others are not - so he has some degree of insight which they lack - but at the same time the lower aspect of his self (nafs al-amarra) is strong and misdirects his discernment towards a base end.


Sura 20


85: [Allah] said, "But indeed, We have tried your people after you [departed], and the Samiri has led them astray."


86: So Moses returned to his people, angry and grieved. He said, "O my people, did your Lord not make you a good promise? Then, was the time [of its fulfillment] too long for you, or did you wish that wrath from your Lord descend upon you, so you broke your promise [of obedience] to me?"


87: They said, "We did not break our promise to you by our will, but we were made to carry burdens from the ornaments of the people [of Pharaoh], so we threw them [into the fire], and thus did the Samiri throw."


88: And he extracted for them [the statue of] a calf which had a lowing sound, and they said, "This is your god and the god of Moses, but he forgot."


89: Did they not see that it could not return to them any speech and that it did not possess for them any harm or benefit?



90: And Aaron had already told them before [the return of Moses], "O my people, you are only being tested by it, and indeed, your Lord is the Most Merciful, so follow me and obey my order."



91: They said, "We will never cease being devoted to the calf until Moses returns to us."


92-93 [Moses] said, "O Aaron, what prevented you, when you saw them going astray, From following me? Then have you disobeyed my order?"


94: [Aaron] said, "O son of my mother, do not seize [me] by my beard or by my head. Indeed, I feared that you would say, 'You caused division among the Children of Israel, and you did not observe [or await] my word.' "


95: [Moses] said, "And what is your case, O Samiri?"


96: He said, "I saw what they did not see, so I took a handful [of dust] from the track of the messenger and threw it, and thus did my soul entice me."


97: [Moses] said, "Then go. And indeed, it is [decreed] for you in [this] life to say, 'No contact.' And indeed, you have an appointment [in the Hereafter] you will not fail to keep. And look at your 'god' to which you remained devoted. We will surely burn it and blow it into the sea with a blast.


98: Your god is only Allah, except for whom there is no deity. He has encompassed all things in knowledge."



So you can see #86 of Quran @bold is in harmony with Ex. 7 and 8 of your Bible where moses condemned them of corruption and disobedience. Read also #90 @bold where innocence of Aron is declared. It was Samiri who led children of Israel astray at their request.

Question is, have they deviated from religion of Abraham aforetime?. You can see they have been corrupted for thousands of yrs. They are not entitled to the Holy Land

jeruzi:
The interpretation of Jer.8:8, is not that of changing the Torah but of wrong interpretation of the Torah, and disobedience to the law. In Mal. 4:4, God told the people of Israel to remember the law of moses. If it were erroneous, God would not have told them to remember it years aftet the prophet Jeremiah whom you quoted. the original manuscripts are well preserved.

Are they following Mosaic Laws now?. No. They have abandoned it for secular Laws. This is one of the many corruptions we talking about. Your christian religion which should be following the Laws have abandoned it too. So you and them can't be entitled to the Holy Land unless and until you follow Mosaic Laws

If you study that same book of Jer. From chapter 7 to 10, you will see that it was a clear case of disobedience.

They still disobeyed or not?

jeruzi:
You religion is funny. I never told you Abraham was a pagan. Abraham served the living God, He passed the worship on to his descendants Isaac, Jacob, Israel.

this is waste of time. Quran is on point. It says without mincing words that Abraham was a muslim. Where in your Bible it says Abraham was christian or Jew?. I will be waiting for your answer. Meanwhile, what type of worship did he pass down to his children, Judaism or christianity?. I need your answer

alBHAGDADI:
At bold

So you believe Jesus was killed, yet you go about peddling the narrative of the Quran that he wasn't.
I believe the reason why you agree he was killed is just because you want to buttress your lies.

"You and your fvking Jesus, we killed Jesus and we proud of it". This is my land, this is my house, God gave it to me fvck you"

It is their words not mine. Borrow yourself a brain


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M539PgDjbas

PrecisionFx:
The people living in Israel are Europeans.

Abeg, tell them

alBHAGDADI:
Stop peddling falsehood.

That land was given to the Israelites when God showed Abraham the land and promised that his children will inherit it. Abraham gave birth to Isaac who gave birth to Jacob whom God named Israel. His children till this day are known as Israelites and are in possession of what God promised Abraham their father.

Genesis 12:6-7

6 Abram traveled through the land as far as the site of the great tree of Moreh at Shechem. At that time the Canaanites were in the land. 7 The Lord appeared to Abram and said, “To your offspring[c] I will give this land.” So he built an altar there to the Lord, who had appeared to him.


If you Muslims you believe in the God the Bible speaks of, as you all love to claim, then you should know that he never promised that land to any people called Palestinians but to the Children of Abraham who are called Israelites today.

Now, as for the Canaanites who lived there before it was taken by the Jews. You might as well blame God for telling the Jews to kill thise people even though you know clearly that they did very evil things in that land. Mind you, since you believe God is allah, then it is allah you should blame.

Do you want to call God unjust for ordering the death of the amalekites and Canaanites of that land when they did evil? Remember God also punished the Israelites when they did evil in the land by sending them on exile for years. The reason why He didn't order for them to be killed is cos He already promised the land to them, so killing them will render the land without its true owners.This is why no effort by the Palestine can wrestle that land from them cos it wasn't promised to palestines but Israelites. Can't you read the handwriting on the wall? From going on exile to miraculously gaining back your land to now defeating the arabs and now Trump's declaration. All these goodies can only happen when you have God's backing. On the other hand, those losing are facing losses cos they never had God's backing cos He doesn't back thieves.

I have made up my mind not to take you serious. @bold sums up everything. and i see how you tried to hypocritically switch God for Allah and Allah for God where it suits you. Kontinu

jeruzi:
I like the way you have taken it. In one of your posts, you said Jesus cursed the Jews. This is a lie (your Quran is wrong). Matt 2:21 let's us that Jesus came to save is peopl from their sin. His mission is to save not to curse. Jesus knew He was going to be crucified and prophesied it, even when He was rebuked by his disciple peter, He rebuked peter back, by because that was why He came. Mark 8:31-32. Why Jesus was on the tree before He died, He said, "And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” Mark 23:34.

According to our Book, Jesus cursed them. That's apparent today. Anyone cursed is bound to misbehave. So you can see today. They are hellbent on killing spree.

One of the questions I asked you was, " why are all the prophets and apostles before mohammed wrong ? The quran had altered everything the Bible has. mohammed condemned what the apostle wrote even though he was not with Jesus. Jesus specifically called these ones, and they stayed with Jesus for three years plus. mohammed altered the Torah (5 books of moses).

Nope, all prophets and messangers before prophet Muhammad(s) were upright. It is your so called holy Book that corrupted their teachings. It is Bible writers that altered the Bible. For Instance, Luke 1:2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;


another verse reads: 'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? Jer 8:8

That's just few. I got more. As for Torah, that's Muhammad too?. Let's see the death and burial Moses(p), Deut 34:5-7


"So Moses, the Eternal’s servant, died there in the land of Moab, just as the Eternal had said. He buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth-peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is. Moses was 120 years old when he died, but his eyesight hadn’t failed and his strength hadn’t diminished"


To you, does this sounds like God is speaking?. The writer even suggested pre-verse that it was God who came down to bury Moses. That's blasphemy of the highest order. So did prophet Muhammad(p) tamper Torah?. You dont even know how to lie my friend.

You said Abraham was a Muslim because he was from Ur.

No, not bcus he was from Ur. He was muslim, period. Quran says: "Ibrahim (Abraham) was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was a true Muslim Hanifa (Islamic Monotheism - to worship none but Allah Alone) and he was not of Al-Mushrikun(polytheists). (See V.2:105).

Now let me show you from the Bible that they were Idol worshippers. Gen. Jesus 31:26-30 Laban who also was Jacob's uncle asked Jacob for his god's. Abraham took a wife for Isaac from his family, and Isaac sent Jacob back there, so they were idolaters.
See also Gen. 35:2-4, All the servants that Jacob squired worship idols.

This is just one of the many corruptions in your Bible. This can be self defeat logically.

If Abraham was idolator, how come he is father of faith as you people like to call it or so called "Abrahamic religions" called monotheism?. The implication of what you said is that Judaism and Christianity are PAGANISM. My friend, you see why muslims can never take you people serious?. You see why Holy Land can never belong to Jews if they could made up lies like these and attributed to him?. So you can see from verse of Quran above, God cleared him of that nonsense called polytheism. Abraham was God's friend. Polytheism was the opposite. Only those on Abraham's faith are entitled to the Home Land.

If therefore they were idolaters and you said what they did then was islam, then Islam is idolatry.

It is your religion and judaism that are pagans not Abraham, not islam.

If you want to deny the fact that Islam is idol washipping repackaged, then, what was the religion of the ancient people of mekka mecca , how many gods do they serve in mecca, what was mohammed's grandfather's name and what was his job. YAWEH IS NOT Allah.

Religion preached to them by Abraham was tawheed - Oneness of God. Pure Islamic monotheism. But after their prophets gone, they started worshipping idols and corrupted the religion. That's why prophet Muhammad was sent to bring them back to the right part, the part of Abraham. That's pure islamic monotheosm

Those Jewry are thieves

analize701:
Altiggya Master. You wish.

You said that when you ran out of idea. Now, help yourself

Those Jewry are thieves

Who would have thought this boy would become billionaire

Ranchhoddas:
I was also surprised when I saw it. That one is suffering from severe lack of understanding.

He has irrational hatred that he can't explain either. Thats why he fumbles

analize701:
Oh, so you believe they were exiled? I thought they existed before.

[s]Arabs went behind their backs to steal land.[/s]

Thieves.

Maybe you should talk about WHY they were exiled to begin with. But if you want to say they were exiled was indication that they lived there beofre, then, you got a lot to research. They themselves met and occupied people in the Land. I have explained enough. Go back to previous pages and watch the Rabbi. It is only less than 5 minutes. I have told you before that one of the reasons they were evicted by Divine Will was bcus they rejected your god(Jesus).


When Jesus perceived that the children of Israel were bent upon disbelief, he said, "Who will be my helper in the cause of God?" Q3:52



They called your god(Jesus) bastard.



They boosted and happy they killed your god(Jesus). They called mother(Mary) of your god love pedler. They killed their prophets, the dealt riba(usury),

Chapter 4 verses 150 - 157


Indeed, those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers and wish to discriminate between Allah and His messengers and say, "We believe in some and disbelieve in others," and wish to adopt a way in between -

Those are the disbelievers, truly. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating punishment.

But they who believe in Allah and His messengers and do not discriminate between any of them - to those He is going to give their rewards. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

The People of the Scripture ask you to bring down to them a book from the heaven. But they had asked of Moses [even] greater than that and said, "Show us Allah outright," so the thunderbolt struck them for their wrongdoing. Then they took the calf [for worship] after clear evidences had come to them, and We pardoned that. And We gave Moses a clear authority.

And We raised over them the mount for [refusal of] their covenant; and We said to them, "Enter the gate bowing humbly", and We said to them, "Do not transgress on the sabbath", and We took from them a solemn covenant.

And [We cursed them] for their breaking of the covenant and their disbelief in the signs of Allah and their killing of the prophets without right and their saying, "Our hearts are wrapped". Rather, Allah has sealed them because of their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few.

And [We cursed them] for their disbelief and their saying against Mary a great slander,

And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ."........."



And finally, they were CURSED by Jesus and David {Qur'an 5:78}


Those among the Children of Israel who disbelieved were cursed by the tongue of Dawud (David) and 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary). That was because they disobeyed (Allah and the Messengers) and were ever transgressing beyond bounds. Mohsin Khan translation



Cursed were the unbelievers of the Children of Israel by the tongue of David, and Jesus, Mary's son; that, for their rebelling and their transgression. Arberry translation


Curses were pronounced on those among the Children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary: because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses. Yusuf Ali translation


Are they not transgressing in the land again now?. They have been cursed eternally.


I know Jewry successfully brainwashed you. Aint surprised

analize701:
Which year did the Palestinians accept the 2 state resolution?

how long were the israelites exiled by God?

Charlesdock:
Abraham a Muslim? You're talking from the perspective of a Muslim sir.
Abraham was never a Muslim neither a Jew.
Neither Christianity, Judaism or Islam exist then.

what was he? Quran teaches us he was a muslim..

analize701:
Arabs are the insane ones who wants to steal someones property in broad daylight and they want to steal all of it. Here is Wiki, read and get sesne.

The two-state solution refers to a solution of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict which calls for "two states for two groups of people." The two-state solution envisages an independent State of Palestine alongside the State of Israel, west of the Jordan River. The boundary between the two states is still subject to dispute and negotiation, with Palestinian and Arab leadership insisting on the "1967 borders", which is not accepted by Israel. The territory of the former Mandate Palestine which shall not form part of the Palestinian State, shall be part of Israeli territory.

The framework of the solution is set out in UN resolutions on the "Peaceful settlement of the question of Palestine", going back to 1974.[1][2][3] The resolution calls for "two States, Israel and Palestine … side by side within secure and recognized borders" together with "a just resolution of the refugee question in conformity with UN resolution 194". The borders of the state of Palestine are "based on the pre-1967 borders". The latest resolution in November 2013 was passed 165 to 6, with 6 abstentions.[4] The countries voting against were Canada, Israel, the United States, the Federated States of Micronesia, Marshall Islands, and Palau.[5]

The Palestinians have "shown serious interest" in a two-state solution since the mid-1970s, and its mainstream leadership has embraced the concept since the 1982 Arab Summit in Fez.[6]

Over the years, polls have consistently shown "respectable Israeli and Palestinian majorities in favor of a negotiated two-state settlement."[7]

There have been many diplomatic efforts to realize a two state solution, starting from the 1991 Madrid Conference. There followed the 1993 Oslo Accords and the failed 2000 Camp David Summit followed by the Taba negotiations in early 2001. In 2002, the Arab League proposed the Arab Peace Initiative. The latest initiative, which also failed, was the 2013–14 peace talks.

And your point is.......?. It says Palestinians have shown interest in 2-state solution contrary to your statement that they aren't interested in a 2-state solution. Israel is simply not interested in any solution

jeruzi:
I am a Christian, and I do not believe in your prophecies. For me to believe your islam is the real religion, you have to clear a lot of questions. What you saw up there was to prepare your mind. Each question is well stated and not lumped like you state, but related to each other. Settle with the qustions and start your answers from your strongest point. You have time, defend your islam. The questions are before you.

I see. Very well. Remember you are christian as you rightly said and then you are defending Jews/Judaism. That's two different religions. The implication is that, you have to abide and defend Old Testament. Don't run away by the time i start with you. Don't tell me later these are old laws meant for the Jews by the time i start with you. Your old testament will be used against you to show you Jews murdered prophets, they murdered your god (Jesus) and you still defending them. They massacred innocent men, women and children in the Land in question. So you gonna have to explain to us how the land was theirs from the beginning and how the land is theirs "forever".

But first you need to tell us why you are defending them knowing that they killed your god, Jesus christ, on the cross and they boosted about it. You have lots of answering to do my friend. You also shied away from the Rabbi's video up there. This is the 3rd time i am bringing your attention to it. Do you know better than them when the Rabbi said 'we (Jews) were exiled by God from the Holy Land bcuz of their iniquities'?



1 Thessalonians 2:14-15

"For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of God’s churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own people the same things those churches suffered from the Jews who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to everyone"





Requirements Of Holy Land (ar-muqadasa- Jerusalem)

It is servants of God to submit and accept Him as the Only One God -Allah. This submission is known as ISLAM. So all prophets preached submission to God's will. Therefore, all prophets submitted to God, including but not limited to Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus and Muhammad(peace be upon them all) all of them came with the same message, Oneness of God.


Quran says:


Say (O Muhammad SAW): "We believe in Allah and in what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down to Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma'il (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), Ya'qub (Jacob) and Al-Asbat [the twelve sons of Ya'qub (Jacob)] and what was given to Musa (Moses), 'Iesa (Jesus) and the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between one another among them and to Him (Allah) we have submitted (in Islam)."



Also

Chapter 4 verses 161-165


For the wrong­doing of the Jews, We made unlawful to them certain good foods which has been lawful to them, and for their hindering many from God's Way;

But those firm in knowledge among them and the believers believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you. And the establishers of prayer [especially] and the givers of zakah and the believers in Allah and the Last Day - those We will give a great reward. Verily, We have inspired you (O Muhammad SAW) as We inspired Nuh (Noah) and the Prophets after him; We (also) inspired Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma'il (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), Ya'qub (Jacob), and Al­Asbat [the twelve sons of Ya'qub (Jacob)], 'Iesa (Jesus), Ayub (Job), Yunus (Jonah), Harun (Aaron), and Sulaiman (Solomon), and to Dawud (David) We gave the Zabur (Psalms).

And Messengers We have mentioned to you before, and Messengers We have not mentioned to you, - and to Musa (Moses) Allah spoke directly. [We sent] messengers as bringers of good tidings and warners so that mankind will have no argument against Allah after the messengers. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.


See how Allah praises His prophets and messangers?. But you Judeo/christian Bible mocked prophets and messangers. We found in your Book where they accused prophets of inces.t, rap.e, womanizers, and all sorts of barbaric behaviors you can think of. They called Jesus 'bastard' auzubilah. They called her mother a prostitut.e auzubilah and they finally boosted of killing the son of Mary, messanger of Allah. These are people you called "chosen people"?. Yes, they used to be chosen people when they were muslims until they rebelled against God.


Again, Quran iterate covenant God made with His prophets


And [mention, O Muhammad], when We took from the prophets their covenant and from you and from Noah and Abraham and Moses and Jesus, the son of Mary; and We took from them a solemn covenant. That He may question the truthful about their truth. And He has prepared for the disbelievers a painful punishment.



No prophets of God recognized Judaism. They fabricated their own religion and attributed it to Moses. They started this fabrication when Moses left to collect Commandments. Before he came back they started worshipping calf. As for christianity, it has nothing to do with Jesus. It was fabricated and started by Paul. This is just a glimpse.

Fegelfire:
Yes, here we are in the 21st century, after 500 years of complete Western Domination over the entire planet. The West has the highest living standards and greatest freedoms and equalities of any nation on planet earth, with some of the lowest rates of violent crime anywhere on earth. Four muslim nations have been completely and utterly destroyed and the leader of every major world power at this point, from the US to EU nations to Russia to Japan to Korea to China, despises Islam.

You're going to get a wake-up call one day. One day, you'll wake up and realise why it was us who conquered the planet and shot human technology and science into the modern age, and that Allah will not be there to save you.

I didnt see you mention christianity.

your writeup got k-leg

jeruzi:
The people you said are not Jews are real jews who escaped to Europe and returned. Contrary to what you stated in your earlier post, my arguments were not flawed. I know very well that religion is required to iron out this, but if I delved deep into religion, the thread will change. So now, what is the origing of islam? what religion was in mecca? what was kaaba to them? Did mohamed claim he was possessed? How is YHWH the same as allah? if you claim it's the same, why does the God of the jews suddenly want them dead? why are all the prophets and apostles before mohamed wrong? was mohamed not instructed to worship the gods of the pagan land that he conquered? Didn't want to do it this way before. Answer

smh, see how you lumped everything together. Lord have mercy.

BeansAndBread:
You can't be taken seriously, 1747? Emp.iree are you seeing this

The guy is insane. He was not despicable like this before.