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You two ehen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkmD52q2c8E

Dont even know why you are overthinking too much on a very simply thing. Do you think they are against the Quranic ayat you cited?. My point, dont restrict Allah to a place or time. "Laysa-ka-mithli-he-shay" Evidences provided by your favorite site are rather understood literally. But i have no problem with them.
It is normal when someone is asked "where is God?" everyone points to the sky. There is no problem with that. It is only problematic if you think He is restricted up there. Both views are correct. There is no misguidance whether you think He is above or everywhere unless you fail to understand. For instance, Husni Mubarak once said "the power of Egypt is in my hand". Was he actually referring to his physical hand?. He meant sovereignty. Think!

When Allah says He is above His creation doesn't mean physically on top of them. The moment you ascribe physical attraction to Allah, regardless of how many references you cited, you are committing shirk. "Laysa-ka-mithli-he-shay" There is nothing like Him. So the short and simple answer to question is that Allah Most High exists beyond time, space, location and ‘physical’ direction; He is where He has always been. it is important to realize that the issue ‘where is Allah?’ was never debated or made a matter of great dispute by the Companions (sahaba) and early Muslims (salaf). We seldom find within classical teachings of mainstream Muslim scholars that people went around asking and debating where Allah Most High is! And aside from the hadith of Sahih Muslim in which the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) asked the slave-girl (jariya) “Where is Allah?”, there seems to be no other text of the Qur’an and Sunna in which this question is asked. As for the hadith of the slave-girl, it has its own specific context.

FriendNG:
Ofcourse if you are happy to quote from those sites without disclaimer, that means you are sympathetic to it course.



Prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him is not alive you can take that anywhere. Allah Subhanahu Wata'ala Himself Said categorically the Prophet will die. He said all living will die. What so ever on earth will perish.


1. Everyone on the earth will perish without exception. ONLY ALMIGHTY ALLAH WILL REMAIN

Everyone upon the earth will perish, And there will remain the Face of your Lord, Owner of Majesty and Honor. [Quran 55: 26-27]

Verily, you (O Muhammad SAW) will die and verily, they (too) will die. [Quran 30: 39]

(Anyone arguing with this is dragging it with God.)


2. Barzak (LIfe After Death)

You dont need to provide any hadith for me, we all there is Life after death.

The prophet is alive in his grave in the sense of the life of al-barzakh, so he enjoys the blessings that Allaah has prepared for him as a reward for his great good actions that he did in this world. But the life in the grave is not like the life of this world, or the life in the Hereafter.



LET ME GIVE YOU AN ASSIGNMENT QUOTE FROM THAT WEBSITE THE MEANING OF THE PROPHET IS ALIVE? I AM 70% SURE IT MEANS SOMETHING DEVIATING. WHEN MANY OF YOU BELIEVE THAT THE PROPHET COME TO VISIT YOUR SHIEKS, HE EVEN EAT FOOD WITH ONE OF THE SHIEKS (I FORGET HIS NAME)





Allah is in Al'arsh you cannot dispute that, who knows the way HE Is? No one and that is what Islam teaches. But you over savi people tell us ALllah (SWT) is every where. Count us out in this your evil saying. Why must you think Allah is like human that when it was stated HE is above the throne, you begin to think HE CANNOT. Who are you to compare your own mental reasoning with Allah? You are MR Nobody from nowhere.

The prophet ones determine the faith of a slave by asking her "Where is Allah" and she replied " Allah is in the samaa". You can go and believe what you wanted too, what your brain tells you but for we it is sufficient for as far the prophet hadith above.

Allah is aware of anything, even a single drop of leaf from a tree in the forest anywhere in the world at the same time, but that is not a reason for you to say he is everywhere.

Because by doing so, you are using your brain to think how can HE know what is happening in Nigeria and china concurrently if HE is not everywhere (That ur own thinking because ALLAH IS NOT a human.)

A human cannot know what is happening in the next room closer to him without going inside the room and dax human 4 u and not the ALMIGHTY.




NOTE THIS: ALLAH IS IN SAMA'U AND NO AMOUNT OF EXPLANATION CAN CHANGE THAT. WE WERE NEVER TAUGHT HE IS EVERYWHERE AND WE WONT ACCEPT IT WITHOUT PROOF.

We have not been commanded to identify the exact ‘physical location’ of Allah; rather our responsibility is to recognize Allah (ma’rifa), build a strong relationship with Him, affirm His exaltedness (tanzih), affirm His Oneness (tawhid), learn about His attributes (sifat), worship Him, obey His commands and abstain from His prohibitions. Beyond that, there is no Islamic obligation to know where Allah Almighty exactly is; neither is it possible for the meager intellects of us created beings to fully grasp the reality and majesty of our Creator. We have not even fully understood the reality of our souls, bodies, the sun, the moon, the stars, the mountains, the sky, and so forth; then how are we expected to comprehend the essence (kunh) of the Almighty.


The central point of belief (aqida) with respect to Allah Most High – alongside affirmation of His Oneness (tawhid) – is His transcendence (tanzih), which has a clear Qur’anic basis and is unanimously agreed upon. Tanzih refers to affirming, in absolute and emphatic terms, that there is no similitude between Allah and His creation. Allah does not resemble His creation in any way, and there is no creation that is similar to Him in any way. No imagination can conceive of Him and no understanding can comprehend Him, as He is different from all created beings.

Allah Most High says about Himself, "Laysa-ka-mithli-he-shay" “There is nothing whatsoever like unto Him.” (Qur’an 42:11)

So you may be committing shirk if you think Allah is physically above in the sky. Get over that. This shouldn't even be discussed whereby people start calling another kafir or deviant which you already did.


I can quote from any website so long as their understanding is in line with sharia. From islamqa you quoted means you are defending them too. Did you ever put up your disclaimer anytime you quoted from them?. This is internet. Infos are too broad to glean

Lol @Jamo90, that reminds me of Sheikh of dawatul-haq (ipe ododo). He said, "eyonu awon agba ko omo kekereni. What if you offend omokekere, which eyonu you go use?"

A strong standby alfa dont need this nonsense if he is upright. The only time you need or they need to advise someone to beg them is if their victim truly offends them. They advise you to apologize. When similar happened to me in ilorin of a woman who claimed i 'offended' her, i was young at 20 and was introduced to this man who is not Muslim at all. He said "a ma be awon iya ni, won nbinu e for no reason". He said if i doubted him, all i have to pay was 500# to bring her live image in front of me and ask her questions( exactly as in movies). I didnt doubt him but i had no money. But i said to myself, awon iya ko awon omode ni. I grew up with dua, why was the need for this?. i know the woman he was talking about. He described her and he was right. I asked, 'what does she want?. He said she wants nothing. She is just angry bcs of bright destiny ahead. Me i dont joke around when it comes to this. I embarked on dua which is so easy for me. Thats why i dont understand why some ppl find it difficult to sit down and make dua. And ofc, i told papa and grandpa. Her threat was real but God was in control. I felt nothing of her threats. Never doubt power of Yasin. Now, about two decades later, here i am. She is now indirectly begging to pay her son's school fees, I never mind bcus i had no issue with her. She chose to be stupid. what Allah already sealed just as ikupakuti said of firaun and musa(as) would come to pass. But that doesnt me one should allow such threats by sitting dumb. Wallah, they would trump over you.

Jamo90:
Haa I don't want that o. You remind me of my Uni days in Ilorin. There was a young beautiful lady I met who lived just across my street. Seriously, we loved to check out each other and I knew she liked me. I used to dream about us getting married until someone told me her Dad is a very strong and popular Sheikh well known in that area of Ilorin. And that her Dad can make me poop in my pants without having diarrhoea. Nothing has ever killed my spirit faster than when I heard those words.

My parents used to tell me then "ma wo egbekegbe and shoraa fun Awon Alfa Ilorin o" I was still young then Lol. I used to regret not approaching that girl. She has a name I've heard just once in my life "Mordiya" I've never found another person bearing that name.

When I look back and remember those days, I just look at the mirror and tell myself "Look at you, you can't even stand an incurable diarrhoea. Someone can not play with you,........ "

ikupakuti:
...So, after that vow by the devil to mislead mankind & God having granted him the powers necessary (all are in accoudance with the divine will/plan), GOD now sent down guidance through his prophets (untouchable by the devil) to guide & warn people of those ways affiliated to that channel of power granted to the devil, how to identify it so as not to thread it, cos the same fate await whoever subscribes to it as the devil.

#Every path (SIRAT) leads to GOD in reality. But the only one (guarded) that leads to his mercy & not his wrath is the one sent through his prophets called the STANDARD PATH (siratal mustaqeem), the devil lays in wait on the other.

#So, whether one prays in the name of GOD or in the name of jesus or in the name of the devil, its still the one & only GOD that will answer coz there is no any other AL MUJEEB anywhere save him & all his creatures whether obedient or not, do not have any RABB other than him.

#MUSA & the magicians: MUSA prayed in the name of GOD & the magicians prayed in the name of phiraun/devil & their needs were met . In Q20:67 MUSA was afraid after throwing his staff why ? Coz he knew both his power & theirs came from GOD & thus they are all valid! Throwing is one thing winning is another. He knew victory is subjected to the dictated of divine will (Destiny) & GOD can grant it to anybody. MUSA does not have the details of what had been decreed yet until GOD assured him Q20:68-69.

#Denying the powers of the devil is denying the powers of GOD.

#Those people (Godly & ungodly) with visionary prowess whether acquired or gifted are all legit.

#Those we were warned against are those threading the ungodly path. Believing them is believing the devil & thats automatic kufr....brb

albaqir, this perhaps, answers what we discussed the other end

ikupakuti:
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#So, whether one prays in the name of GOD or in the name of jesus or in the name of the devil, its still the one & only GOD that will answer coz there is no any other AL MUJEEB anywhere save him & all his creatures whether obedient or not, do not have any RABB other than him.

This is Tawheed

Demmzy15:
This is the site Empire.e supports and propagates, a site where they invoke Allaah's curse on Muslims. Now I'm seeing how messier you're becoming nowadays, thanks to Al.Baqir!!!

FriendNG:
Hahhahahah. When they cannot prove Allah is everywhere, they curse people. So do they mean the prophet is Alive from what I am seeing?

I honestly don't understand how you brothers think sometimes. Just bcus i quoted from a website means I am defending them?. I dont support a Muslim cursing fellow Muslims.

Now, to the claim that nabi Muhammad is alive, i think you brothers need to humble your ego and learn. That underlined statement is in harmony with Quran (3:169) and universally accepted sunnah. If Allah confirms shaheed are alive (in whatever form He meant), how about nabi who is greater than shaheed?, No level of righteousness of any individual can compete with status nabi (saw). So nabi is dead and buried in Medina, but he is alive in the sense that many ahadith confirmed unless you want to daif those ahadith. Our deeds are presented to nabi , and if he sees any good in it, he praises Allah. If he sees evil in it, he pleads on our behalf. So that sound like a family members of yours that was dead and forgotten{no offence intended pls)?. So this is what they meant by that statement. If you need references for those ahadith i just paraphrased, will be glad to provide them. Even in a debate btw Abdul Rahman and Sheikh Ashrah this was affirmed.

And the same way you and i believe Allah is above is Throne with proof from Quran, is the same way we believe Allah is everywhere (with every individual and constantly watching Q50:16. I you think this is shirk, then, you are committing shirk if you think Allah is confined above His Throne. Allah is free from any sort of confinement.

Rilwayne001:
Can you even remember which part of Nigeria ilorin is? Lwkmd

Lol I spent 4yrs in iLORIN

Rilwayne001:
I am based in Ibadan but I'm from ilorin. Do you know adabata in ilorin west?

And yes the dialect is same, maybe that of ilorin is even worse. Lol

lol, adabata, not sure I heard that before

Demmzy15:
This is the site Emp.iree supports and propagates, a site where they invoke Allaah's curse on Muslims. Now I'm seeing how messier you're becoming nowadays, thanks to AlBaqir!!!

Be sensible for a second please

Rilwayne001:


But I'm from Ilorin Nah, that girl is Ibadan.

Toor, i thought u from ibadan. What part of ilorin?. but anyways, both dialects are the same to me

A girl from rilwayne001's hometown


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkh1GzsGD0Y

ikupakuti:
I totally agree with Sheikh Hamza. Those that demand equity must come with clean hands also.

The truth is, every ideal no matter how sound it is, is bound to degenerate with time & those the devil usually uses are the ignorants.

Like he asserted, things are in hierarchical order. Its ISLAM then IMAN then IHSAN. But today, people want to jump the first two & claim the third whereas those two are the preliminaries/foundations upon which the third was established.

But, then there will always be bad eggs in all sects, even among the deviants, some would still deviate from the original course of deviation. People who dont want to pay their dues before claiming credits. Reason I dont associate with those noise makers.

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But why dont the WAHABIS like being addressed as WAHABIS ? Are they ashamed of his legacy ni ? They practice a form of ISLAM taught by ibn abdulwahab, isnt it? By hijacking the term SALAFI to themselves, they are indirectly insinuating that others muslims aint SALAFIS which is derogatory & thats one of their tricks.

Really sad. That's why I love the way I grew up. We were isolated. And the reason given by dad and grandpa for doing that is what's happening today with so called "Sufis". This is why I stick to the ESSENCE which I keep telling brothers here but they chose not to listen. They want to equate everyone.

Also, we can't have extreme sufis (heretics) and extreme salafis (misguided) who are denying tassawuf altogether. This reminds me again of words of Imam Maliki(ra) that if you only pursue figh without tassawuf or spiritual essence you are misguided. And if you only stick to spirituality without figh, you are heretic. Both are apparent today.

You can see the brothers out rightly denying even essence of Sufism. They focus on what misguided ppl do. Many atimes I advised them. They do have evidence against pseudo sufis. But this is not excuse to deny reality. Both are misguided as imam maliki rightly said. And the masjid where I pray adheres to salafi manhaj. They are so boring bcus they have no programs to bring ppl especially children yet they are complaining that children don't come to masjid. But the sufi masajid, both Africans, Asians, Cyprus etc are filled with children bcus they have programs for everything and everyone. But the former only have adult program (lecture) where they only quote their scholars (not children friendly). So I advised them to adopt some elements of sufism like Sunday as-salatu to begin with. I didn't know a Nigerian sister was there. She sensed quickly I'm Nigerian and she said Sunday as-salatu is bida. She further said that group dhikr and reciting subhanallah, istgfar, etc is bida. I quickly shut the conversation and left.

So salafi attempt is to kill spirituality. This is misguidance just like misguided sufis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=199SLrAhk80

DeathStroke007:
To people reading. . . do not read al baqir (shia) . . empiree(sufi) and others like him.. do not read n0r believe their c0mments. . they are always going against kitab wa sunnah .. they are kufar .. all they do is to go against the quran and hadith .. just ignore them..

Allah made nabi Muhammad victorious by awe for a distance of one month’s journey.

And Allah has made empiree a nightmare for you (DeathStroke007 a k a ahlusunnah) before he (empire) even comment on this thread . The Fear Of Empiree, The beginning Of Wisdom

It is not a CONDITION of MARRIAGE but PRE-CAUTION. Which means, YOUR CHOICE simple

Now, here we go. http://www.sunnah.org/tasawwuf/testimon.htm you can call this one too "lousy dalil"


Imam Abu Hanifa (81-150 H./700-767 CE)

Imam Abu Hanifa (r) (85 H.-150 H) said, "If it were not for two years, I would have perished. For two years I accompanied Sayyidina Jacfar as-Sadiq and I acquired the spiritual knowledge that made me a knower in the Way."



Imam Malik (94-179 H./716-795 CE)

Imam Malik (r) said, "Whoever studies jurisprudence [fiqh] and didn't study Sufism (tasawwuf) will be corrupted; and whoever studied tasawwuf and didn't study fiqh will become a heretic; and whoever combined both will be reach the Truth." This saying is mentioned and explained in the book of the scholar 'Ali al-Adawi with the explanation of Imam Abil-Hassan, a scholar of fiqh, vol. 2, p. 195.


Now, this is the point. ^^ join both is the best way to go. Thats what i do. I started with both especially fiqh



Imam Shafici (150-205 H./767-820 CE)

Imam Shafici said, "I accompanied the Sufi people and I received from them three knowledges:

1. they taught me how to speak
2. they taught me how to treat people with leniency and a soft heart.
3. they guided me in the ways of Sufism."

This is mentioned in the books, Kashf al-Khafa and Muzid al-Albas, by Imam 'Ajluni, vol. 1, p. 341.



Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal (164-241 H./780-855 CE)

Imam Ahmad (r) said, advising his son, "O my son, you have to sit with the People of Sufism, because they are like a fountain of knowledge and they keep the Remembrance of Allah in their hearts. They are the ascetics and they have the most spiritual power." This is explained in the book Tanwir al-Qulub, p. 405, by Shaikh Amin al-Kurdi.

Imam Ahmad said about the Sufis, as mentioned in the book Ghiza al-Albab, vol. 1, p. 120, "I don't know any people better than them."




Imam al-Muhasibi (d. 243 H./857 CE)

Imam al-Muhasibi reported that the Prophet (s) said, "My Nation is going to split into 73 divisions and only one of them will be the Group of Salvation." And Allah knows best that the Group is the people of Tasawwuf. He went deeply into the explanation of that subject, in the book Kitab al-Wasiya p. 27-32.



Imam al-Qushayri (d. 465 H./1072 CE)

Imam al-Qushayri said about Sufism, "Allah made this group the best of His saints and He honored them above all of His Servants after His Messengers and Prophets, and He made their hearts the secrets of His Divine Presence and He chose them from among the Nation to receive His Lights. They are the means of humanity. He cleaned them from all connnections to this world, and He lifted them to the highest states of vision. And He unveiled to them the Realities of His Unique Oneness. He made them to observe His Will operating in them. He made them to shine in His Existence and to appear as Lights of His Lights." [ar-Risalat al-Qushayriyya, p. 2]



Imam Nawawi (620-676 H./1223-1278 CE)

Imam Nawawi said, in his Letters, al-Maqasid, "The specifications of the Way of the Sufis are five:

To keep the Presence of Allah in your heart in public and in private;
To follow the Sunnah of the Prophet (s) by actions and speech;
To keep away from dependence on people;
To be happy with what Allah gives you, even if it is little;
To always refer your matters to Allah, Almighty and Exalted." [Maqasid at-Tawhid, p. 20]



Ibn Khaldun (733-808 H./1332-1406 CE)

Ibn Khaldun said, "The way of the Sufis is the way of the Salaf, the Scholars among the Sahaba, Tabiceen, and Tabic at-Tabiceen. Its origin is to worship Allah and to leave the ornaments of this world and its pleasures." [Muqaddimat ibn Khaldan, p. 328]



Sheikh Abdul Rahim Oniwasi agbaye {1921-2012)

وكان الصحابة من النبي سوفيس {companions of the prophet were sufis}


Jalaluddin as-Suyuti

He said in his book Ta'yad al-haqiqat al-cAliyya, p. 57, "Sufism in itself is the best and most honorable knowledge. It explains how to follow the Sunnah of the Prophet (s) and to leave innovation."



Ibn Taymiyya (661-728 H./1263-1328 CE)

In Majmaca Fatawa Ibn Taymiyya, published by Dar ar-Rahmat, Cairo, Vol, 11, page 497, Book of Tasawwuf, Ibn Taymiyya says: "You have to know that the rightly-guided shaikhs must be taken as guides and examples in the Dan, as they are following in the footsteps of the Prophets and Messengers. The Way (tariqat) of those shaikhs is to call people to Allah's Divine Presence and obedience to the Prophet."

Ibn Taymiyya says on page 499 of the same volume: "The shaikhs whom we need to take as guides are our examples and we have to follow them. As when on the Hajj (the pilgrimage), one needs a guide (dalal) to reach the Kacba, these shaikhs are our guide (dalal) to Allah and our Prophet (s)."

See what i just posted up there about credit, that just reminds me of my years in ilorin. I had issue of spiritual battle with someone very close and i didnt know i "offended" her. I dont think if it appropriate to tell this but i really dont care after all. Ths credit thing is not necessarily fortune telling but gleaning info. It is equivalent to people obtaining someone else's info as done in yorubaland. I remembered meeting a man back then telling me i cant hide anything from him. It was crazy

LadunaI:
@empiree

Actually Ikupakuti has comprehensively treated the issue of SEX of unborn child under GHAIB, and an attempt to say that is referring to destiny according to shk Akindele only amount to shifting the goal post, so NO need for that. Hence, at a point in time ALLAH might disclose such hidden knowledge, and yet, that doesn't anyway diminish HIS MONOPOLISTIC ASCENDANCY as sole KNOWER OF GHAIB.

However, the way people treated or believe spiritual matters are completely different with their dealing with physical phenomenon. So the idea of scan, weather forecast would NOT be necessarily weighty in the mind of people compare to REAL FORTUNE telling, like trying knowing what future holds in term of wealth, happiness etc that has been thru ages.

Also, there is certain system or solution ALLAH has created to solve certain problem without needs to re-invent the wheel. So idea of Artificial Intelligence AI and Machine Learning ML making waves now is an attempt to make some sophisticated forecast from Big Data as we have it today. But that in my few only trying to discover some of hidden pattern or trend that are not apparent. So what this system will forecast will only amaze people NOT really make them believe in imaginary being that a DIRECT encounter with fortune teller would bring.

Thanks

Interesting..noted

@ikupakuti,

another thing is Credit Report and Credit Score. That thing is used in the West to determine worthiness of individual. Without it, no one may know anything about you. Credit is programmed exactly like fortune telling or the like. It is exactly like "awon iya aye" those people seek to see worthiness of their target(s).

If you call a bank to apply for a loan, any types of loan, they only need your number, age and sometimes, your mother's maiden name. Sounds familiar?. ALfa, Alawo, pastor, etc use this isnt?. Exactly they do this in the West and muslim who condemn categories of karada dont say anything about this simply bcus they see it as a mere worldly stuff. Anyways, bank officer will get those infos and tell you what you worth.

Once they pull ur infos, there is nothing else you can hide unless you do stuff off the book. Criminal record, marriage, relatives, job, websites you registered with you name them. They see all of them.

Exactly if awon Aje wantt o get info, they are both designed identically.

ikupakuti:
No. I knew about artificial intelligence. I‘m talking about creating a ruh from scratch & infusing it in a new or dead body to resurrect it or trapping a ruh @ the point of exit (death) in a vial or something & then create a new body (carrier) & then merge the two together, the new human will now possess the mental/spiritual capabilities of the former vessel of that recycled ruh.

There are many things we think are big deals due to our limited understanding of the word of GOD but are actually not.

When GOD says hes the one that does/did something or he has power over everything or can do anything, we dont actually understand what such implies.

Ha, now i understand. humm they are getting there or most likely they are already. If they can shut down the heart to perform surgery, and bring it back to life thereafter, i won't be surprised about this. Or with lot of fake people walking around with skin of deaman or pig, this is only matter of time. Will research this to see if there is anythign available

Our alfas are right

AbdelKabir:
What did I go through? Oh, you must be thinking I was so so depressed because of the foolishness and hypocrisy you guys displayed? Wrong, By Allaah I wasn't disturb a bit......




You don come with your lousy sources again

This is not a salafi website its a site of deobandis, don't mistake it for islamqa.info.....

And all they could say is "its inauthentic" without telling us how?

Fact is presented before you. Take it or leave it. How could such Imam uttered that?. I guess you need to read on Imam Maaliki(ra) on the subject too. If Imam Shafi'i said that, why would Imam Ibn Tayimmiyah joined Qadriya sufi?. Oh you are saying those shuyukh like baba Adam etc were idiots after offering salat zuhur?. You are incredible for even believing this nonsense. Go and face ahlusunnah to finish you off first. The dude is giving u nightmares

All islamic scientists of the past were sufi people. So were they idiots?

Raintaker:
Please can you help create a thread for the elaborate tafsir on this issue?.




D matter just confuse me.

Albaqir is your best man on this, then we can contribute. He will soon be here

I forgot about this phrase when i was tyoing. What i was talking about is called artificial intelligence and human computer interaction

https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&rlz=1CASMAE_enUS679US679&q=human+computer+interaction+vs+artificial+intelligence&oq=artificial+intelligence+and+human+computer+interaction&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i71k1l4.0.0.0.19515.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1..64.psy-ab..0.0.0.SimMETvTClw

This is short pdf but not comprehensive enough. Still looking out

http://hen-drik.de/pub/Heuer%20-%20On%20The%20Intersection%20Of%20Human-Computer%20Interaction%20(HCI)%20And%20Artificial%20Intelligence%20(AI).pdf

Lol, this already happened

Very soon, technological advancement will get to a stage where spirits will be created & infused into a body & will function like a real human.

but they are making come back again soon after yrs of silence. I remember when scientists came up with is i think around 2005/06, it appears to be in conflict with Quran. Muslim Americans argued it down. Thats closed now but made a come back about 2yrs ago in NY. Right now, this tech is being used by the rich and govt privately just like computer was used 40yrs by govt before it was made public.

Even a verse which speaks of using stars to navigate trip(ship), we dont even invent anything in this respect. Them kufar did. We only read text mechanically.

I cant agree more with fatwa thing you mentioned up there. I repeat, that, Quran is for the past, present and future and it explains ALL things (Nahl 89). The implication is that Quran might have explained this technological advancement. I believe those shuyukh grasped the message to the best of their ability. We need to start where they stopped.

@tintingz,

My reply to you is that, Shaytan appeals to the human craving for more. He employs his most notorious tactic of making wrong appear fair seeming and vice versa. And with this generation, who are undoubtedly more detached from the core tenets of islam than previous ones, he had managed to make the limits set by Allah appear as if they are preventing them from attaining some higher sense of existence. The Prophet(saw) said, "This life is s prison for the believers and paradise for the disbelievers."

This is similar to the approach Shaytan used with Adam by promising him that if he ate from the forbidden tree, he would somehow attain a life that was greater and far more superb than the one Allah had already given him(eternal life). And just like Adam and his wife (with respect to gender war), we've bitten into the forbidden fruit that has put us on a course of moral and spiritual deviation from which we can never return.

Raintaker:
This is a dicey situation, anyways I'm always learning.
Someone should also create a thread about visiting graves, cos I don't seem to understand why women are forbidden to visit graves and d male counterparts are allowed.

opinions vary. Been hearing this since childhood. There is hadith that forbade women from visiting graves.

But there is hadith that generally allows everyone to do so. Hence it could mean there are conditions for them for different reasons. You need elaborate tafsir on this.

Both ladunal and ikupakuti's views are correct. Before the emergence of technology, especially in Nigeria, there was no way of knowing sex of a child in the womb until after birth. We used to ask (for those who were not present) is he male or female?. Today, we ask this question just weeks into pregancy. Even it is mother everybody asks this question today before the baby is born. And she tells what it is.

We are now faced with challenges as to why Allah would say "no one know what's in the womb". Scientists would think they have met Quranic challenge by employment of new technology which determines sex in the womb.

This means we will have to seek to understand what Quran truly means by that verse. Sheikh Akindele was posed this question in one of his lectures. His interpretation was that the ayah was speaking about destiny of what is in the womb which no one knows. And we know destiny is breakdown. Geomancy or not, istiqara or not, muslims generally lack spiritual and technological faculty today. We should be the ones leading this modern tech today if only we understood these intricacies a lot better.

Weather man doesn't do istiqara (2rakat) before telling us conditions of weather in days to come. This is very challenging. We know they aren't perfect when they forecast. That's normal. But if we insist that the hadith allegedly forbids fortune telling as a whole, then, the implication is that listening to weather man telling us 5 days forecast, snow tomorrow etc and we believe in it, then, the consequences mentioned in the hadith is binding on this too and unfortunately, many of us are guilty.

In the West, whether you are muslim or not, lots of people turn on tv to check the weather before going out. Although it is made easy now on our phones. One touch and weather comes on to tell you if you need umbrella or not, if you need heavy jacket or not. This got me thinking isn't the same with Alawo checking on his 'baba' to see if today will good and great or not?. Why don't Muslims and non-Muslims in the west rely on Allah and go out like that? . And on your way home from work you get wet in the rain. You be like 'I should have checked the weather'. This happens a lot.



The reason we tend to see both differently is bcus we consider the former religious matter. The later mundane. But nabi (saw) did not distinguish.


Walahu alam

And these are more evidences to show the statement you quoted is false. This also should be a wake up call for AhluSunnah guy who claims sufism is not in islam. I wan tto see if he will call the Imam kufar too



The Tasawwuf of al-Shafi`i DID IMAM AL-SHAFI`I DISAPPROVE OF TASAWWUF?

Imam al-Shafi`i said:

faqihan wa sufiyyan fa kun laysa wahidan
fa inni wa haqqillahi iyyaka ansahu

(Be both) a faqih and a sufi: do not be only one of them,
Verily, by Allah’s truth, I am advising you sincerely.


The above ^^ is saying to study external observation (fiqh) and internal reality (Sufism i:e tassawuf)



[al-Shafi`i, Diwan, (Beirut and Damascus: Dar al-fikr) p. 47]
The derogatory remarks about tasawwuf attributed to Imam al- Shafi`i which some are heard quoting today must be understood in the context of the Imam’s disavowal of certain people who called themselves Muslims or Sufis, when in reality they were nothing more than hypocrites, free-thinkers, and dissolute people. This should be born in mind by anyone who is approached by “Salafis” with narrations culled from Ibn al-Jawzi’s Talbis Iblis and attributing sweeping disapproval of tasawwuf to Imam Shafi`i. How can they believe that Imam Shafi`i disapproves of tasawwuf and at the same time advises the fuqaha’ to be sufis, as we quoted above? Have they no better opinion of him than one who gives two mutually exclusive advices?


The muhaddith al-`Ajluni also relates in his book Kashf al-khafa wa muzil al-albas (1:341 #1089) that Imam Shafi`i said:

Three things in this world have been made lovely to me: avoiding affectation, treating people kindly, and following the way of tasawwuf.


Ibn al-Qayyim in his Madarij al-salikin (3:128) and al- Suyuti in his Ta’yid al-haqiqa al-`aliyya (p. 15) also relate that Imam al-Shafi`i said:


I accompanied the Sufis and received from them but three words: their statement that time is a sword: if you do not cut it, it cuts you; their statement that if you do not keep your ego busy with truth it will keep you busy with falsehood; their statement that deprivation is immunity.


SOURCE:
https://answeringwhabismandsalafism./2008/01/05/did-imam-al-shafii-disapprove-of-tasawwuf-sufism/

^^^

You still dont want to be silenced abi? after all the drama u went through


YOUR POST UP THERE WAS REFUTED BY YOUR FAVORITE Salafi website islamqa http://islamqa.org/shafii/qibla-shafii/33748/was-imam-shafii-against-sufism

Imagine such statement coming out of a great scholar of Islam goes to show you how fabricated that statement was. You are so desperate brov.

Even a dullard doesn't need PhD to figure out the statement was a fabrication

ikupakuti