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Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 11:39pm On Aug 17, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
Laughing. . . just like i knew .. well, where do u reside xef? ibadan? ilorin? 4l

Ethiopia

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 11:13pm On Aug 17, 2017

AhluSunnah:
I KNOW YOU ARE TELLING LIES. BUT LET ME PLAY DUMB WITH YOU. . . . . , . . QUOTE AND POST WHAT HE SAID HERE WITH THE BOOK AND PAGE NUMBER

You didnt see his "stamp" on the hadith quoted earlier?. Yea, play dumb. That doesn't count.

All 4 madhab's opinions are correct. You not gonna come here to tell us our salat is wrong and your is right. What rubbish is that?.

Hanafi and Shafi'i are of two extreme end. Hanafi says not to recite anything behind Imam whether during out loud salat (subh, Maghrib, Isha and the silent rakat in them). Also no recitation of anything behind imam in silent salat (zur and asr).

But Shafi'i's position is that you must reciting fatihah behind imam whether in silent salat or loud ones. Imam Maliki and Hanbali are of the opinion that you recite fatihah behind imam in silent salat only. You recite nothing in loud ones. Imam's recitation covers for his jammah

What they all agree upon due to authentic hadith is that salat i:e all salat (obligatory salat, nafilat, janaza) and all types of salat are not valid without recitation of sura fatihah. So get over it. This iktlaf has been going on since the time of sahaba themselves. I followed maliki school growing up and i still do. I even subscribed to opinion of hanafi more lately bcus, some Muslims create nuisance in salat by mumbling too much in the name of reciting behind imam and i lose concentration in salat

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 10:38pm On Aug 17, 2017

AhluSunnah:
If to say na android a dey use ni, i for copy and paste better explanati0ns than mine . . .even if i did gan. . u w0nt accept it na. . 0m0 baba tijani ni e na

But your sheikh Albany said the alleged hadith that support your rubbish is daef. What more do you need?

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 10:36pm On Aug 17, 2017

AhluSunnah:
IT has contextual meaning. . what i meant by saying it earlier is jahl

So in another word, you are the jahl shocked

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 7:39pm On Aug 17, 2017

Raintaker:
lol
I just weak for d guy, he's still under jabata's influence.
.Something tells me he'll soon break free, if he's willing to learn.

Sure, he will eventually. Such ideology doesnt survive. He is not the first and wont be the last.

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Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 7:35pm On Aug 17, 2017

I will avoid posting original Arabic text to avoid anti-spam-bot suspicion. Just wanna make sure i bring him down to his kneels.

Hadrat Abu Hurraira (ra) narrates that the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: Imam has been appointed upon you so that you follow him, when he says takbir then you should also say takbir, “BUT WHEN HE RECITES QUR'AN THEN YOU SHOULD REMAIN SILENT”, when he goes for Ruku and says Sami Allah huliman Hamida then you should say Allahuma Rabbana Lakal Hamd [Sunnan Nasai’I (2/479, Hadith # 919)]

Regarding ayah of Quran posted earlier, Q7:204,

Imam al-Zuhri (rah) narrates that this ayah was revealed regarding a young person from Ansar. When the Prophet (Peace be upon him) recited any ayah in prayer, then he used to recite behind him, “THEREFORE THIS AYAH WAS REVEALED” [Tafsir Ibn Jarir (9/110) under 7:204]

Sahaba on Q7:204

Translation: Hadrat Bashir bin Jabir (ra) narrates that Ibn Masud (ra) lead people in prayer and he heard some people reciting along with Imam, when he offered salutations he said: “HASN’T TIME COME YET THAT YOU UNDERSTAND” hasn’t time come yet that you use your senses? Remember when Quran is recited then you should listen to it attentively and “REMAIN SILENT, BECAUSE ALLAH HAS ORDERED IT (IN 7:204)” [Tafsir at-Tabri, (9/110) under 7:204]

Hadrat Sa’eed bin Jubair (ra) narrates that {When the Qur’an is being recited then listen attentively and remain silent} is revealed about “OBLIGATORY PRAYERS” [Tafsir Ibn Jarir (9/110) under 7:204]

Ibn Abbas (ra) said that {When the Qur’an is being recited then listen attentively and remain silent} refers to ruling regarding “OBLIGATORY PRAYERS” [Tafsir Ibn Kathir under 7:204]

Tabiyeen on Q7:204

Imam Mujahid (rah) said: (This ayah is revealed) about “Obligatory prayers” [ibid]

Imam adh-Dhahak (rah) said: (This ayah is revealed) about “Obligatory prayers” [ibid]

Ibrahim al Nakh’ai (rah) said: (This ayah is revealed) about “Obligatory prayers” [ibid]

Hence those people who believe that recitation of Imam is enough for Muqtadi (follower) then they have Quran in their favor whereas people who proclaim that recitation is necessary for Muqtadi have no proof from Quran whatsoever. But to their surprise even overwhelming ahadith refute the claim that recitation on Muqtadi is binding, some have been shown above but let us see some more.

to be continued.....

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 6:14pm On Aug 17, 2017

Raintaker:
Hmm I see, Sufi ni Adam, so He is not a Muslim your logic.
Sufi ni Sheik Blala so he's not a Muslim

Sufi ni Baba lagbaji in Ilorin so he's not a Muslim

Sufi ni sheikh Kamaldeen so he's not a Muslim.

All those foremost sheiks are not Muslims lol
Even Usman Danfoyidio is not a Muslim cos He i s Sufi.

Lol

Lol.

Bro , did you or do you attend any madrasah?
I don't mean mosque this time.

He doesn't know what he is talking about. He is unbridled ignorant. As you can see, he can no longer defend essence of this thread. He is shifting goal post

Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 6:11pm On Aug 17, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaPP32TqxW8

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 6:07pm On Aug 17, 2017

AhluSunnah:
Its a slang na. . its imam offa that said it..

what does it mean?

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 5:38pm On Aug 17, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
ODEMESUE KARKAMAYA

I don't even understand this language undecided

Family › Re: Nigerian Man Baths His Baby, Becomes An Internet Sensation (Photos, Video) by Empiree: 12:47am On Aug 17, 2017

The baby is enjoying l shocked

kwarm water. F cheesy

ls so comfortable

Autos › Re: 2008 Nissan Pathfinder For Sale by Empiree(op): 8:08pm On Aug 16, 2017

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Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 4:36pm On Aug 16, 2017

Now, let me finish up your thread and dump it in garbage bin. Here is my line of argument with evidences shocked

I say it is not a must nor is it condition for validating salat in congregation to recite sura Fatiha behind Imam.

Qur'an states: When the Qur’an is being recited then “LISTEN ATTENTIVELY AND REMAIN SILENT” so that mercy will be showered upon you".(7:204)

Tafsir Ibn Kathir R.A: Imam Ibn Kathir (rah) narrates from Abu Musa al-Ash’ari (ra), Abu Huraira (ra) and Ibn Masud (ra) that this ayah was revealed regarding “REMAINING SILENT WHEN IMAM RECITES”… Then Imam Ibn Kathir says:

وقال أبو حنيفة وأحمد بن حنبل: لا يجب على المأموم قراءة أصلاً في السرية ولا الجهرية بما ورد في الحديث «من كان له إمام فقراءته قراءة له» وهذا الحديث رواه الإمام أحمد في مسنده عن جابر مرفوعاً، وهو في موطأ مالك عن وهب بن كيسان عن جابر موقوفاً، وهذا أصح

Translation: Imam Abu Hanifa (rah) and Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal (rah) say that Qirat is not binding upon Muqtadi “WHETHER IN SILENT OR LOUD PRAYER” because it has come in hadith that whosoever has an Imam then his recitation is your recitation, this hadith is narrated by Imam Ahmed in his Musnad from Jabir (ra) in the “MARFU FORM” and in Muwatta Imam Malik via the route of Wahb bin Kaysan who narrated from Jabir (ra) in Mawquf form. (Ibn Kathir said) “THIS IS THE MORE CORRECT VIEWPOINT” [Tafsir Ibn Kathir, (1/281) under 7:204]

This is really sunni view and this is what i was taught. I begin to see you fake salafi as non-sunnis. You hijacked the salaf.

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Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 4:25pm On Aug 16, 2017

^

You are officially shut up. YOu have wrong manhaj, wrong ideology, zero hikma, zero insight, zero ijtihad, zero qiyas. Thats why your nonsense can not survive undecided

Islam › Re: Can We Call People Who Do Shirk And Bid'ah Muslims? by Empiree: 4:22pm On Aug 16, 2017

Rashduct4luv:
Has he for once shut up? Have you seen him shut up b4?

DOn't you see how i break his back several times?. Dont you see his current thread how he shut the hell up?. That's what i meant. But he keeps bringing his silly "evidences" and nonsense manhaj he shares with you against you. Thats why you cant shut him up for good. When i shut him up, he would stylishly back off. That's call refutation. I dont care if he starts a new thread. But i always kill his threads. His current one is dead. Thats what i am talking about shocked

Example is spoon. none of you could refute him compared to how i refuted his creed.

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 4:00pm On Aug 16, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
Laughing

I didn't even use my own argument or dalil . I used your own evidence you provided against you. What if I used other evidences - you would have jumped over the moon.

Sir, your path is dolal shocked

Islam › Re: Can We Call People Who Do Shirk And Bid'ah Muslims? by Empiree: 3:57pm On Aug 16, 2017*

Rashduct4luv:
Assuming you were sensible, you would have seen the arguments! Anyway,your only have eye socket sha!

nope, if you successfully refuted you him, he would have shut the hell. When I refute him, he dare not breadth again. I put him in permanent state of SHUT UP

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 3:40pm On Aug 16, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
Even people reading or will read this in future will clearly kn0w and see ur dolal. . keferi oshi

it is painful when you have no counterclaim cheesy

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 3:35pm On Aug 16, 2017

PrinceGallant:
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You are lazy. Advice given to you was correct. You quoted one hadith and then concluded that you find the'truth'? cheesy

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 3:32pm On Aug 16, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
ANI ON WHAT PROOF DID AL BAANY DAIF THE HADITH O O O. . MU ERI WA OR SHUT UP

Goan ask him grin

I did not quote bcus of albany. I quoted bcus it is simply not valid considering other ahadith it is in conflic with. Besides, albany is your scholar now. Why are u running away from him shocked

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 3:20pm On Aug 16, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
LAUGING. . I TIRE FOR YOUR MATTER O..OK. .ALBAANIY DAIF THE HADITH...WHAT IS THE PROOF ALBANNY SAID TO HAVE MAKE THE HADITH DAIF. . E. B . WELL, ITS YOUR PRAOBLJEM. . FACE IT. .

your nonesense defeated

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 3:14pm On Aug 16, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
THIS IS AMONG THE REASONS YOU ARE AND AL BAQIR ARE KUFAR."TAKLEED" BLIND FOLLOWING OF SCHOLARS. . so because daif is written there, that is why its daif? laughing. . . the reasons its daif must be stated.. o ya, what are the reasons

and the hadith that supports your argument, who made it sahih?. Is it not albani?. That's why you refused to quote it. Instead you posted reference number only. Matter of fact, I see Sheikh albani daif the same hadith grin

That's what albaqir posted up there. You are dull

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 2:53pm On Aug 16, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
LAUGHING. .U SAID I CALL U NAMES, ARE U NOT A KAFHIR? THE EVIDENCE U PRESENTED ISNT EVIDENCE..1. bring the isnad 2. who am0ng the isnad make the hadith daif. 3. then bring correct hadith. 4. then bring scholars u announce the weakness of the hadith.. #lobatan# . . i don give u assignment. . run along.. dont be long

the attachment I posted above (Daif) is in reference to albaqir's post. Check it well. Olodo

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 2:35pm On Aug 16, 2017*

AbuUthaymeen:
DO IT THE WAY YOU WANT.. U KUKU DO NOT HAVE SALAT TELE. . KEFERI NI E NA.. SUFI LIKE U N0NI WIL BELIEVE.. BESIDES, U PEOPLE DONT EVEN MAKE SALAT TELE NA.. E KIN KIRUN NA. .

I have said it before. Anytime I refute you, you retort to name calling. The evidence is presented before you. I didn't make up the hadith. That's sunni ulama hadith. U can tag all sunni kufar over this. Your choice

And I still have more evidences against solitary hadith you used as a proof. I was expecting you to come up with comprehensive dalil but you have failed to do that.

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 2:04pm On Aug 16, 2017*

AbuUthaymeen:
2ND JAHL DON SHOW FACE. . IF U DID UNDERSTAND AND BELIEVE IN HADITH, U WIL KN0W HOW TO SP0T AND PR0VE A HADITH TO BE WEAK. . REFRENCES KO BIBLOGRAPHY NI

You always say nonesense when you are countered.

Reciting sura Fatihah behind imam is not a must. You can't use solitary hadith as proof when there are countless other ahadith that contradict hadith that supports your argument. In that case, Quran evidence sits injudgement over conflicting ahadith. Q7:204

Besides, it is very uncomfortable when some ppl reciting behind imam. Reciting sura fatihah is ONLY a must when you pray alone whether obligatory salat or not or if you lead others. Simple

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 12:33pm On Aug 16, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
Laughing hysterically. . . a kafir who says an hadith is daif. . . s0me0ne wh0 d0esnt belive in hadith says an hadith is daif? laughing . .this got me cracking . . BESIDES IS THAT HOW TO ANNOUNCE AND PRONOUNCE A HADITH DAIF? NO EXPLANATION ON THE ISNAD, NO NARRATOR, NO OTHER HADITH TO PROVE ITS DAIF and yet you say its daif. . your rate of kafir level is ast0nishing. . confirmed jahl.. dats what u are

Islam › Re: Can We Call People Who Do Shirk And Bid'ah Muslims? by Empiree: 10:34am On Aug 16, 2017

Pain!

Almost 6 days now, you still can not refute dull dude, which proves you both are fake. All i need is one engagement with him and he looses. You should notice that already. You have had countless arguments with him in one thread but got you nowhere with him. You all have bogus manhaj

Islam › Re: Can We Call People Who Do Shirk And Bid'ah Muslims? by Empiree: 4:35am On Aug 16, 2017

Rashduct4luv:
This is simply different! Using spoon is not ibaadah as being ascribed to maulid, etc.

face him not me. My point was made already

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Empiree: 4:11am On Aug 16, 2017

You mind him. I wanted him to finish with his nonsense before i interject. He doesn't know what he's doing. Wanna teach us salat in 2017 cheesy

Jokes Etc › Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 12:46am On Aug 16, 2017

_1. What's the difference between stress, tension and panic?_ *Stress is when wife is pregnant;*
*Tension is when girlfriend is pregnant;*
_*Panic is when both are pregnant!*_ grin

_2. Grammar Teacher: Do you know the importance of a period?_
*Kid: Yeah, once my sister said she has missed one, my mom fainted, dad got a heart attack & our driver ran away!* grin

_3. A young boy asks his Dad: "What is the difference between confident and confidential?_
*Dad says: "You are my son, I'm confident about that. Your friend over there, is also my son, that is confidential!* grin

_4. A bookseller conducting a market survey asked a woman ;_
*“Which book has helped you most in your life?”*
*The woman replied , “My husband’s cheque book!”* grin

_5. A prospective husband in a book store: Do you have a book called,_ *Husband the Master of the House?
*Sales Girl : “Sir, Fiction and Comics are on the 1st floor!"* grin

_6. Someone asked an old man : “Even after 70 years, you still call your wife Darling, Honey, Love." What’s the secret?"_
*Old man : I forgot her name and I’m scared to ask her!* cheesy

_7. Wife : I wish I was a newspaper. So I’d be in your hands all day._
*Husband : I too wish that you were a newspaper. So I could have a new one every day!*

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Romance › Re: Waiting For Your Fiancée To Get Pregnant Before Going To Pay Her Bride Price by Empiree: 5:03pm On Aug 15, 2017

Mynd44:
Vitimize wives of men who dont cant seem to draw the line between their parents and wife.

Now you begin to sound funny. If your mum understands, fine. Not really particular about her. Most mothers, if you try to interfere and curb her, yourself will pay the price. She go threaten you that she go go naked and swear for you cheesy

if you dont get another wife grin

She go tell you your wife don wash her private area in your food cheesy

and you ate it

Romance › Re: Waiting For Your Fiancée To Get Pregnant Before Going To Pay Her Bride Price by Empiree: 4:53pm On Aug 15, 2017

Mynd44:
If this is how your mum will act, good.

Not everyone has parents that act like this

Lol...dont take it personal. My post was rather conventional as commonly known amongst nigerian mums. You no dey watch them on tv how they victimize their daughter in-laws over this?

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