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ikupakuti:
Ofcourse, shes right on it being a mathematical (binary) system. But her submission that ifa (geomancy) originated from the yoruba was wrong. It has always been primordial.

Geomancy is rooted in astrology. The original concept of astrology is divine (scriptural). The planets & stars are only a replica of the real deal. You dont need to trail the stars/planet to study it like many people think.

Every NABI is taught the original concept of mystical astrology coz its one of the 46 fractals of prophetism.

But its a knowledge reserved for the elites. Those who inherit the scriptures & failed to measure up were forced to make do with the exoteric aspect of it, and as its is with every divinely revealed knowledge (all the devil needs to get to destroy anything good, is time), it deteriorated with time, with every community individualizing their own line of it according to custom & tradition & thats how fetishism & idolatry crept into it. Reason while the NABI (saw) didnt condemn it entirely even though the one practiced by the arabs at that time is idolatrous.

But one can always see the identical concept in all the present versions from all over the world.

M. A as a scientific & mathematical system is so powerful that the esoterics of religion is almost useless without it.

Interesting. When Sheikh Daud Alfa Nla was asked by his student about similar issue (iyepe tite) he said, 'we can say it is partly haram and halal' conforming with underlined.


Now how do we reconcile this with hadith which says visiting soothsayer deprives of one's salat (from being accepted) for 40 days?. Soothsayer by general meaning according to the hadith doesn't characterize

Kaytixy:
you can ask those who have been to hajj how the soldiers use to flog the tijanias who want to go and worship the grave of the prophet. No because of dem they put soldiers to guide the grave of the prophet. Go to Medina and go and be shouting ya tijani make you see as dem go koboko you.

your assumptions are too much.

Raintaker:
OK
I have d black seed oil, I'll give him that one.

I hope you took a look at the thread i gave you above. Take a look again at the picture i posted. Tell me how much that Black seed oil could cost in your are please?. I want to have idea. Thanks

Ifa is a Scientific and Mathematical System?

I agree with some things she said in this context especially on materialism. Watch this 6 minutes clip and give us ur thought.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zsq3FSMof8


ikupakuti

Newnas:
Imagine this response.

Completely not of knowledge.

A person interpretes a verses with another, this man calls it long winded. Completely absurd.

Is this the kind of Joker and ignoramus I should be engaging. Obviously no!

The people are of three categories:

The knowledgeable: follow him

The ignorant: teach him

The follower of lust and distortions: say what you can then stay away from him

escape route. Bolded, dont Sufis do the same but you accused them of "awon oniruju" I only asked for "salat ibrahimmiya". That's all. There is nothing like solati ibrahimmiya. It is simply a terminology coined by Ulama

Raintaker:
Thanks everyone.
I think he found something already, according to him it's an infection of d middle ear.
He uses the combination of a pain reliever, corticosteroid and vinegar. We'll watch how it works for some days.

The pain reliever is to relieve pains, the corticosteroid is to reduce swellings, in case there is any and the vinegar is fight the infections.

Empi.ree, should he chew the black seed as normal or he should mix with honey?

There are different treatments that work. He may try Olive Oil as well. Here is direction


* Warm the olive oil slightly.

* Pour a few drops of the remedy into the infected ear.

When the ear wax has softened, gently remove it from the outer ear with cotton-tipped swabs, but be careful not to go too deep and cause an injury


Second Solution

Black Seed Oil: Take a few drops of olive and mix it with a few drops of black seed oil. Put three to five drops in the ear. Please note if you have perforated drum, ask your doctor. Visit this thread for picture of Black seed and black seed oil https://www.nairaland.com/3925320/learn-prophetic-medicine-via-whatsapp/1

Raintaker:
I don't have the materials of their ulama on istigatha.

ok

May be caused by abnormalities in blood vessels around the outside of the ear or by muscle spasms. His problem may be tinnitus. Sometimes is a serious problem but in most cases it is not. If he is accustomed to using earpiece, he should stop this habit now. There is no specific treatment for noise in the ear. He may need to visit his otolaryngologist for diagnosis before it become worse. The noise caused by tinnitus only your friend could hear

He may also employ the use of black seed to lessen the trouble.

Raintaker:
The country is Indonesia, they had a terrible tsunami the other time.

Really?. It is them?. Would love to read materials of their ulama on istigatha prior to tsunami if you have idea. That's interesting.

AlBaqir:
# Tawassul: You ask Allah by the virtue/status of X before Him.

NB: Note how the OP submit that you can use your good deeds as wasila before Allah, but deliberately kept silent on Nabi and awliya Allah. I find it very funny. Despite plenty ahadith to support using Nabi as wasila, my question is what kind of work do you have that is more worthy before Allah than His Nabi? What guarantee do you have that your work/deeds is even accepted by Allah? Even Nabi Ibrahim and nabi Ismail after constructing the Kaaba with their 100% tawhidic intention (which they were commanded to do), still prayed fervently to Allah for the acceptance of their work. Why do we declare that "my Salat, my striving, my life and my death is for Allah (alone)", yet you are using it as a leverage before Allah? I will say with boldness (and I want anybody to challenge me on this) that after Nabi narrated the story of those three individuals who were trapped in a cave, NO record of a single sahabah during or after the demise of Nabi practised such by using their "deeds" as wasila before Allah. They only use Nabi. Note, please I am not against using "deeds" as wasila, all am saying is, I don't know you but I know myself that I have nothing worthy before my Lord that I can use as wasila except Muhammad, salallahu alayhi wa ahlihi.


# Istighatha: You run to the Prophet and call upon him to do something for you (as Q.4:64 and tafsir ibn kathir explains). Your intention here is Nabi will ask Allah on your behalf, and never that Nabi is independent of that power of doing/answering.


To save time, I decided to lump the two together and not treating Istighatha as separate entity.

Do we even have "good deeds" today? Many do "good deeds" in this day and age for the cause of something. You can hardly find fisabilillah now. It is always for something or the other.

Even our salat everyday is not a guarantee. Man even prays salat as fast as federal express and think off every time in salat. Allah never guarantees anyone's salat is accepted. The only thing we know for sure is if we send salams on the prophet(saw) even without wudu, times 10 of that is blessed with us instantly. So myself noticed that he avoided tawasul of Nabi and Awliya. Tawasul of nabi(saw) is so important that the four madhab made it obligatory to send salam on nabi after at-tahiyat in every obligatory salah. Op's method is, tawasul of nabi(sw) was only valid when he was alive and hereafter. But we also see another hadith where nabi(saw) reported to have said 'his life and death is good for us.'


The Prophet said, upon him blessings and peace: "My life is a great good for you, you will relate about me and it will be related to you, and my death is a great good for you, your actions will be exhibited to me, and if I see goodness I will praise Allah, and if I see evil I will ask forgiveness of Him for you."

Narrated from Ibn Mas`ûd by al-Bazzâr in his Musnad (5:308-309 §1925) with a sound chain of trustworthy narrators. But Albany declared it weak n his edition of Fad.l al-S.alât. The hadith has further tafsir

^^

You got it on the other thread

What is the difference between Tawasul and Istigatha?. This verse you quoted albaqir {Qur'an, Surah an-Nisa, 4:64} is istgatha. What you quoted is correct actually. Watched a lecture 2yrs ago by Sheikh Rabiu Adebayo where he criticized a country he wouldn't mention its name , that the Ulama in that country tagged istigatha shirk and forbade Muslims from it. Not long after Allah dealt with them with something of nature.

He continued, 'do you have any idea the secret deal btw Allah and His messanger?. When Allah revealed the verse of Qur'an, Surah an-Nisa, 4:64, do you think you know better than Him?. He said that to the Ulama of that country but he refused to mention country's name.

AlBaqir:
In fact these so-called " Islamic" singers are even worse than those secular musicians because of Religion they use as sheild. However, the question is what are the sensible Muslim scholars do to address the issue? Many of them need Islamic education on Music. Obviously, attacking, abusing, condemning them can never ever stop them. People's heart/mind get stronger in such situation.

Alfas are actually making progress addressing them. So much I dislike Buhari omo Musa sometimes, he spoke the truth against them in a lecture i watched. Those singers were present and they felt so uncomfortable. Same thing with Imam Offa, he spoke frankly against them. Sheikh Abdulfatai thaqofi also did but subtle way. Sheikh Ajani Bello did as well. They can only try their best but can not fully stop them. We live in strange time

I think I posted this a yr ago but not sure. Just popped up on my phone again

AlBaqir:
# Empir.ee, blood is not blood o. If someone else blood is given to you and there is no compatibility, one will die ni o.

Sickle cell anaemia patient's blood cells are deformed cells compare to regular oval shape cells.

# So, imagine if an AS marry an AS.

I understand this. "blood is blood" here means regardless of color or nationality. Thats what i meant not what Jabata deputy was saying.

# Then, Jabata and his crew do not believe in transmittable diseases. He had a lecture on this about Ebola. According to him there is nothing called, "àkóràn". You believe in it, you become a kafir. So, nothing like transmittable diseases in/via blood.

He should get infected by HIV positive patient to bring his brain to order.

# 99% of Jabata's lectures is about " rodu, rodu, rodu" and abusing and calling of names will start from first minute till the end ni. So, all that dictionary meaning suit him perfectly. Although he's not Yoruba Ilorin. He's Fulanian. The word "Jabata" is Fulanian.

Oh, woow. He is not a full blown Yoruba. Didnt know this.

^^

Perfect analogy

AlBaqir:
Here's the link:
https://voiceofthesalaf.files./2016/11/ibj23102016-genotype-istikhara.mp3

You claim to follow those retarded terrorists yet you don't listen to their propagated misguidance.

Just finished listening to this. Raise some point but definitely wong on this genotype stuff. It has nothing to do with what he think. Funny enough he said, blood is blood. No difference. Thats truth from another percepective but in this context?. No. If blood is blood, why do medical practitioners wear gloves when treating patients?. Isn't this meant to avoid contact with infections. He closed his door on ijtihad. Unfortunately though, i cant defend Alaro. He is also critical of some practices like tesuba. So they aint different from my opinion. I guess Ustaz Alaro is not Salafi enough for him.

Funny the man said genotype is like "ka ma wo ise" (fortunetelling). They have a lot to learn but they arent ready for that.

Well, from online dictionary, definition of Jabata comes from "Jabato" (adjective) which means 'brave'. Its noun means YOUNG & BOAR daredevil. So to elaborate, Jabata comes from Jabato a slang in spain which means tough guy, young wild boar, rude, ill-tempered.

Sound like perfect descriptions

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This man may eventually overturn "gay marriage" too if possible. Watched on a program this morning where contributors alleged that being gay in Europe used to be punishable offence

ikupakuti:
Sanctimoniously you mean. They dare not adhere to the fullest! They only quote them when they want to sell their rustic ideology.



When you read the exploits of our early scientists, you cant but pity the muslims of today. The muslims have advanced in all these fields when the whole of europe was still sleeping! The muslims developed the process of crystallization, precipitation, distillation & sublimation. If not for the crusade, the muslim spain would have been the capital of chemistry today.

It was on record that this same JABIR is true father of modern chemistry. He is said to have written over 5 hundred treaties! On chemistry alone!

Like the author of THE SPIRIT OF ISLAM said : “CHEMISTRY, AS A SCIENCE, IS UNQUESTIONABLY THE INVENTION OF THE MUSLIMS“

but then not under such superannuated & antiquated mentality being projected by these people!

Today, we are forced to lick the ar.ses of the non-muslims when it comes to advancement!

Contemporary scholar who speaks on this historical facts is Sheikh Abdullah Quick. He always calls our attention to these things, but unfortunately, these religious arrogance would label him and the likes 'heretic' once they determined his ideology is differs from theirs. Abdulkabir or the like already did that here before. And if you go to their core website, they reddened (crossed out) faces of muslim scholars that they are not allied with and tagged them "alhubid'a"

Rilwayne001:
Aguntan ti so oro tan, o ni "NKAN N BEEEEEEE"

Lol...I tried to understand what you typed. Just figured it out now

Yoruba is easily said than read

AlBaqir:
* Another idiot, Abu Ibeji, Jabata's deputy in Ibadan declares that "genotype (before marriage) and family planning is haram". He said if there is anything like genotype, Nabi would have said so because Nabi was the best Scientist. And he said, " eyin ti eba ti tèle Sunnah ni e ma ni kokoro buruku ninu èjè yin o. Àwa ti an tèlé Sunnah, a free".

Cant imagine watching his lips moved up/down when he said bolded. That would annoy me so bad

^^^

Scared? . I have agreed and disagreed with him severally. What more should I do? . Wage war on him? . Perhaps you could see from his reply to me above.

People were dancing in a pub in Israel, suddenly, the earth opened up & swallowed them up- this is a mystery!!!





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNL1dHsjdPU

AlBaqir:
# If a neutral person see this statement, it will sound as if albaqir used to insult sahabah and wives of Nabi. Is that your intention truly? What I do that you guys cannot stomach is pointing to your revered documents where some of those sahabah were exposed of their Bid'ah and atrocities to the extent some of them confessed.

# These are facts you can never deny. So, please try to state your comment in a clear term.

that's why I avoided your name. Besides, you should understood better in this context without me elaborate.

^^

Lol. ..I don't think I mentioned your moniker. If you paid attention, you would realize I spaced out your moniker to avoid your attention. But you chose to call my attention.

Demmzy15:
[font=serif]You were quick to compare me with a khariji

I don't understand how you reasoned here. I don't think I mentioned khawarij. Are you paranoid

just because I said Imam AbdulQadr Jeelanee is a Sufi,

Lol, I thought you said he's not sufi. You said he simply practised zuhd not sufism. You refused to answer my question (what's sufism)? .

but you're always there on issues concerning him even when it's an established fact that he has grudges against the Mothers of Believers!

Did I ever backed him anytime Shia insult sahaba or wives of nabi (saw). Don't know why you pretend me and albaqir did not debate on these issues before?

^^^^

Really sad.I don't understand this silly mentality they developed. I raised this incident of sahaba''s trip to a village and their activities, how they used their ijtihad etc, in this thread last year. https://www.nairaland.com/3301071/muhammad-alee-jabata-not-among/3#48821847

And this thread by contact17 aka snapscore aka Mofpearl ?

https://www.nairaland.com/3295180/lets-talk-alfa-fulan-really

Despite this they still closed the door of reasoning.

Demmzy15:
Don't interfere, you've always confirmed what I've been saying all along. You're one of those who has empowered this guy on this forum, you keep defending him.

Perhaps you forgot about these verses Q49:10, Q3:103, Q9:17, Q59:10

And these ahadith

Sahih bukhari 5718,
Muslim 2586, 2699, 2732

Among others.

OLAADEGBU:
Christians don't do al taqiyya. Repent, believe the gospel and live.

Lol, your at-attaqiya master(Apostle Paul) wouldnt deny this

You people still on this?. This was her first post in this thread directed at me. Why didn't she say outright about her religiosity right from the beginning?. Why wait until after I dug up her profile?.

Mariin.ee:
He is right.
Will you be able to defend that your absurd contribution on the day of Qiyamah?

Btw, her profile was in the open. So this was not secret. If it was secret it shouldn't be online to begin with. Get over it. It is over already

plappville:
Maybe @Empiree and co could answer your questions. But unfortunately, you wont see them in this type of thread that expose Islamic atrocities.

Muslims of NL, mk una come answer oo

deal with it

http://naijagists.com/canadian-man-christian-sect-leader-married-24-wives-145-children-british-columbia-convicted-polygamy/