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AlBaqir:
They have brought "cave-thinking" and backwardness to
humanity, destroyed livelihoods and nations, and spread
terror and hate across the globe.


# Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Messenger said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, AND I HAVE
BEEN MADE VICTORIOUS WITH TERROR (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand."

Sahih al-Bukhari 2977


# Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

Allah's Messenger said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to
fight against the people until they testify that none has the
right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is
Allah's Messenger, and offer the prayers perfectly and give
the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

Sahih al-Bukhari 25

You fall my hand with ahadith you cited. You know too well there are similar Quranic verses. Those ahadith you cited are to be understood in their contextual basis. I dont think i need to say more. It is usually "Quranites" that say what you just said. Dont stoop low akhi

plappville:
[s]If the title was not Muslim guy, i could have view it.
A Muslim guy has nothing reasonable to tell Trump. Let him go to the Middle East and talk to his terrorist brethren.[/s]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRa_lDJ4AYA

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deenvibe:
i should call u because i want to patronise u abi?? if u cant tell the price then Bleep off

many have contacted her and she gave them price. I'm not the seller. I'm advertiser. All I can tell you is prices vary from $30 to $80. She can best tell you depending on what you lookinng for


I mean no harm. Thanks

plappville:
Hahaha, you go dig bible so ta you go tire of digging because you dey find "racist comment" but you no go see see confusion oo

Again:

Mohammad’s cruelty to a black slave called Mahran, who was re-named Safina (`ship') (by Muhammad) is recorded in text supposedly in the slave’s own words:


He says: "The apostle of God and his companions went on a trip. (When) their belongings became too heavy for them to carry, Muhammad told me, `Spread your garment.' They filled it with their belongings, then they put it on me. The apostle of God told me, `Carry (it), for you are a ship.' Even if I was carrying the load of six or seven donkeys while we were on a journey, anyone who felt weak would throw his clothes or his shield or his sword on me so I would carry that, a heavy load. The prophet told me, `You are a ship"' (refer to Ibn Qayyim, pp. 115-116; al-Hulya, Vol. 1, p. 369, quoted from Ahmad 5:222).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLPO1XAKCuM

Kaysalas:
I don't need to bother my head over anoda man' s choice. It is his/ their choice. Deuteronomy 30:19 tells us we have choices to make. He has made his choice, but it doesnt change the fact that your Mohammed ibn Abdulahi is a murderer, paedophile, pysopath, idolater and so much more... according to your very own Quran and the Hadiths. Want proof? Go read the people vs Mohammed! By J.K Sheindlin. Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLPO1XAKCuM

Kaysalas:
Its actually a calculated attempt to CHECKMATE the increase and eventual TAKE OVER of Spain & all of EUROPE by the CULTISTS who had a MURDEROUS FAT DWARF for a prophet(peace be upon ME!). Christians! Awake, Pray & Evangelise. Hajid is REAL

plainbibletruth plappville SINZ

parrisbookaddict Ioannes alBHAGDADI

annunaki2 OLAADEGBU

truthman2012

malvisguy2012

Empir.ee my paddy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLPO1XAKCuM

busar:
na khimar she go wear

right

AK6464:
Something is missing in this story.


When I read the the first part, I was like end-time Children. When I finished reading I was like endtime mother.

This is nonsense. No matter what she did or doing, she does not deserve this from her children. If she dies in this situation, all the children are going to Jahanam ( Fire Of Hell). If she was troublesome, there is a way around it. Did they know what she went through to raise them?. I am sorry, the children have absolutely no excuse

@shawl, this is what one of their brothers said regarding "radiaAllahu anhu". Now don't sufis have this type of ideas and why is theirs exception and sufi's bidah?.

DeathStroke007:
Concerning the mentions "radiAllah anium" after sahba name is alright intellectually and am sure it might get started by the arabs ..its just a sign o respect for the sahbahs.. And its not bidiah nor right or wrong because its not par of islam.. If you say "radiaAllah anium" no reward nor sin for you, if you don't, no reward or sin for you

See double standard?. He said it's "intellectually alright". But when their 'oppositions' intellectually said or practice something it is bidah. FANTASTIC!

How is this intellectually okay but saying sadaqaAllahul azeem in bidah and 'intellectually' retarded?. Auzubillah.


Sufis however do not go against these mustahab practices like quran competetion, walimot quran etc bcuz they understood these things are meant for improving our lives

shawl:
@Demm.zy15

They dont understand brother

AlBaqir:
# Bible says 6,000 years

# Sunni hadith estimated 8,000 years

With research, discoveries and records, man (homo sapiens) is around 60,000 years.

# Onikijipa?. He knows nothing but ògùn. Alawo ni. Perhaps he's referring to mythical orunmila, obatala et al.

Lol...i disagree. He actually said "awon oni mimo ati awon ojogbon" (referring to scientists)

^^

I know this is what you referred to. A lot fall under Masaalihul mursalah he was talking about. Even Mawlud falls in there according to some scholars. The method itself was employed by Sufis not Saudis which is why Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah said they (sufiya) exercised ijtihad.

Now the same people who invented "Quran competetion" are the same people who say sadaqallahul azim the most. So this still doesn't make sense. And i repeat that the reason you and them favor certain practices that suit you is ONLY if you notice Saud does it. That's follow follow like Sheikh Danfodio you quoted rightly said. Unless and until you are ready to declare Saudi Shuyukh INNOVATORS for saying "rodiyaAllah anhu" which is not a command by the Sunnah, then, no one has the right to label people innovators. That's my point all along.

You cant pick who is innovators just bcus Saudi shuyukh claim something is not sunnah. They call other muslims innovators for going to grave and raise their hands next to it but they do the same. That's just another example. Same we talking about Quran competition and walimot Quran, fundamentalist and dragnet said it is bida but you and these brothers found excuse for it under "Masaalihul mursalah" even though it is not categorically stated there. DOnt think for a second i dont understand what it is. You cant pick and choose what is and what is not sunnah where it suits you.

ONly Saud area claimed sadaqallahul azim is bida. No other shuyukh have said it. Their evidence for it being bida is not evidence at all. There evidence is Prophet(saw) did not do it, Sahaba did not do it. Tabin and tabin did not it. But same can be said of Quran competetion, walimot Quran, saying rodiyaAllah anhu and all that. So please stop calling people ahlul bida just so you can "purify" your creed. This is very wrong.

Sadaqallahul azim falls under adhab not bida. So why telling people not to say it?. Why calling people bida for saying it?. Aren't you following your sheikh blindly bcus he said so?. Again, search outside of Saudi, none of them consider it bidah. IT IS ADHAB (etiquette).


And Sheikh Uthman Dan Fodio(ra) you cited was Sunni-sufi of Ashari creed and also Qadri tariqa. He could not have succeeded and many like him without tassawuf/sufism that you all condemned today. So you have brought nothing but LOPSIDED "evidence".

Rrankdonga:
this is nonsense! When he screams God........ Are you saying God will show up? Please there is no God.

Where is your brain sir?

Demmzy15:
A brother explained it to you, different kinds of innovations and Dhikr. Why didn't you read it? From all observations, you didn't read what was presented to you sincerely.



If there's no evidence for it, you drop it even if your forefathers and my forefathers did it. You need to think beyond the box or outta the box!

As Sheikh Uthman Dan Fodio rightly said:

Some people are ignorant of the Sunnah, but they are anxious to emulate the practices of their Shaykh. If you speak to them about the Sunnah they will reply, “My Shaykh was doing this, my Shaykh was doing that,” thus contradicting the clear and open Sunnah.
Hidaayatut-Tullaab (Zaria: Gaskiya Corporation, 1961) pg. 99



Look its not about saudi arabia, it's about whether there's evidence for it. I've noticed that whenever you have nothing to say anymore, you begin to attack saudi arabia and its scholars. That's lame, Sheikh Al Uthaymeen is no ordinary scholar, we're not blind followers, if you have evidence of the Prophet or the salafs saying it, then we'll follow.

There are many cases salafis have abandoned opinions of Saudi Scholars and followed Non-saudi like Sheikh Al Albani, so don't paint it as if we're dummies!

All these na talk talk. I simply said since Saudi also involved in Quran competition, can you people also consider them ahlul bida (INNOVATORS) as well?. That's my point.

You said i seem to attack Saudi but you fail to see what your brothers are doing. When they hear 'Sufi', they jump off the window. And Mr. Rabiu accused Sheik Niyas of mushrik and he is yet to make tawba. Yet, all of you supported him. So again, Quran competition that was founded in 1961 by Malaysian Sunni-Sufi leader which today is embraced by all muslims including Saudis, there is not EVIDENCE is the Quran and Sunnah. Same goes applies to "sadaqaAllah ul azeem" and saying "rodiyaAllah anhu" at mention of Sahaba, there is no command by the prophet(saw) for it. Should we all stop saying it since it is bida according to you?. Are Saudi alhubida for saying it too?.

No, i am not attacking Saudi, i am simply trying to let you people to reason. You believe we should glorify Saudi anytime they speak. But when Shuyukh from other region speak, they are tagged "innovators". So you get my point now?. So nothing is explained to me as you claimed. I dont have problem with when sunnah is presented we should abandon what is being practiced instead. So are you ready to stop saying rodiyaAllah nhu and also are you ready to say openly to us right here now that Quran competition is bida?. Same applies to "walimot Quran"

I am listening

RABIUSHILE04:
who cares!!!!!!?

May Allaah preserve u upon Khayr brother and guide u aright.

Ameen. So what's the point of opening thread you cant defend and castigating ALL people EXCEPT you and yours even though someone advised you to edit the topic?. I repeat, for the fact that you could not tackle challenges in your thread and all you could say is "who cares" proves you are not what you claimed to be. That's sad.

Now let me throw the word of Shaykh Adam Abdullah al-ilory (ra) who said "you people (that go to Saudi to study) who claim to know keu, e lo she pele pele. Knowledge is here (referring to himself) and this is not pride...it is not what i do"

RABIUSHILE04:
It clearly describes you wholesomely. You indeed dislike ilm nafi'a

For the fact that you mute on the thread, i'd rather ignore you

plappville:
Did Mohammad exchange 2 black slaves for a ‘white’ one as black slaves were worth less (fact) or was he just generous?


***Muslim, Book 10, Number 3901: Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) on migration; he (the Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man).

I have already discovered it is a waste of time trying to explain anything to you. It is better to give an eye for an eye, tooth for tooth. That's all you can understand



Did you read the bible about Blacks?


Leviticus 21:18

For no one who has a blemish shall draw near, a man blind or lame, or one who has a mutilated face or a limb too long,

American King James Version
For whatever man he be that has a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that has a flat nose, or anything superfluous,

American Standard Version
For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or anything superfluous,


Who has a flat nose? Is it not the black nations? Some other bibles make it clear that blacks cannot become priests. So please man!

The verse of Surah Hujuraat (Quran) says: No nation should mock and tease another nation because the nation that they tease and mock at may be better than them who mock and tease!”

Demmzy15:
You and your master Emp.iree haven't refuted the points presented by the brothers above. You've not produced a single evidence for this innovation, whenever points are submitted, you all come about joking around and mocking.

Hope you can read your cancelled, Abu Sayyaf beheaded a German, how does that correlate with telling you that you should stop innovation in which you have no evidence for?

Have you heard of Boko Haram, ISIS, etc warning against "sadaqa Allaahu azeem"? No, they all call for caliphate. Have you seen any brother here calling for caliphate? No, so how does the groups you mentioned above even relate to what we're talking about.

Whenever y'all gat nothing to say, you start beating yourselves up with rhetorics @cancelled, very pathetic!

And this was not answered either. Quran competition started by Malaysian but today almost all muslim countries organize and participate in it. Where is evidence from Quran and Sunnah when Saudi does the same?. Until you answer this, no word. Also, saying "radiyAllahu anhu" after sahaba's name is mentioned is not a command in the Quran or Sunnah but all muslims say it. This is just a typical example like sadaqallah lazim.

Where is dalil for us to say it after mention of sahaba?.

And why is it only Saudi that consider saying the phrase "bida"?. Most scholars before emergence of Saudi do not even consider it bida. They consider it adhab. So why is bida brought into this?. It is lazy people that label everything they don't understand "bidah". Besides, I didnt finish bcus of ban. One of my posts is restored up there regarding sayyidina Ibn Abass (RA) saying the phrase "sadaqallahul azeem". Go back up and read. In Imam Hambali (RA), it is mentioned in his school as well regarding saying the phrase even in salat. But i chose not to post it bcus of the ban.

So how is opinion of few scholars from Saudi even count?. It is their opinion. Hence, you cant call people "Alhlu bida" for saying the phrase. It is unnecessary.

lalasticlala:
I got this mail. Kindly read and share your views and advice. The person in question is reading. Thanks. See the unedited mail after the cut.

YOUR ADVICE IS NEEDED: I AM BEEN PRESSURED TO GET MARRIED AND ALSO CHANGING MY RELIGION


"I wonder why she should be pressuring me to change my religion before getting married to her. I sorted an advice from a pastor, and I was told that she was not the woman for me. That i will have problems along the marriage. After I few consideration, I decided to also sort for advice from Nairalanders.

I am a muslim and my woman is a christian. She is forcing me to change my religion which i have been practicing since childhood. Taking such a decision is not that easy you know. To change my religion because of a woman? I don't think it is right. She has also refuse to change to my religion. Now, her family are pressuring and want me to change my religion. I am writing this to seek advice from Nairalanders to give me direction to follow... I know many will yab, insult or in-sugar me... I just need a candid advice."

Man, she should be in your position. STAND YOUR GROUND. It seems to me from your narration that, at some point, you are subservient to her and her family, most likely FINANCIALLY or otherwise. Break that nonsense. If you have knowledge of Islam enough, you should be the one convincing your fiance. How the heck in the world you gonna worship 3gods knowing too well it is nothing but HELL BOUND?.

Solution, you can respectively tell your wife and her family NO. If they are not satisfied with that, i am sorry, you may need to move on to someone else. But before you dump her, give her gift of Islam. Declare clear message of Islam La ilaha ila Allah that's, There is NO deities worthy of worship EXCEPT Allah.

You should NEVER EVER succumb to her demand. If you do that, you relegate yourself. You lost your respect. She will NEVER respect you. SHe will ALWAYS get her away if she can get your religion from you BECAUSE of silly love. Guy, summon courage and stay off her and put your foot on the ground. DOn't call her. DOn't talk to her. Busy yourself with other activities and let you family know this too. And then wait to see if she will contact you and compromise. NEVER compromise in this case.

Anyone Has Reference For This Please?



A Beautiful Hadith, Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said:


'When a man dies and his relatives are busy in funeral, and there stands an extremely handsome man by his head. When the dead body is shrouded, that man gets in between the shroud and the chest of the deceased. When after the burial, the people return home, 2 angels, Munkar and Nakeer(names of two special Angels), come in the grave and try to separate this handsome man so that they may be able to
interrogate the dead man in privacy about his faith. But the handsome man says, 'He is my companion, he is my friend. I will not leave him alone in any case. If you are appointed for interrogation, do your job.. I cannot leave him until I get him admitted into Paradise '. Thereafter he turns to his dead companion and says, 'I am the Qur'an, which you used to read, sometimes in a loud voice and sometimes in a low voice. Do not worry. After the interrogation of Munkar and Naker, you will have no grief..' When the interrogation is over, the handsome man
arranges for him from Al-Mala'ul A'laa (the angels in Heaven) silk bedding filled with musk.. Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: 'On the Day of Judgement, before Allah, no other Intercessor will have a greater status than the Qur'an, neither a Prophet nor an angel.

May Allah bestow this favour on all of us. AMEEN


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Acquiring tasawwuf is fard i.e. obligatory; since all human beings are susceptible to sins save for Prophets.


What Sufi really do is, Istigfar, salawat ala nabiy. Laaa ilaha ila Allah and so on.


Imam Abul Hasan ash-Shaziliy said:


“He who does not truly acquire this discipline will die persisting on major sins without being aware of it.”
May Allah save us.
AMEEN

^^^

Sheik Onikijipa might be referring to ancestors mentioned in scientific fact up there. Modern humans could not have been source of crude oil for obvious reason

tintingz:
It is still a debate whether fossil fuel was gotten from dead organism of billion-million years ago, but all scientists partially agree that plants, dinosaur and other decomposed dead organism were involved in creation of fossil fuel.

AlBaqir:
Human's age on earth is proven to be around 60,000 years ago. That is too small for the earth to reform into crude oil. Crude oil is believed to be remnants of sea animals, land animals and plants died and decomposed billions of years ago.

Perhaps, his statement his very close to this. It is said that it takes up 300yrs before these mentioned species transform to crude oil. How confirmed is 60k age of human on earth.I found this

How Long Have Humans Been On Earth? While our ancestors have been around for about six million years, the modern form of humans only evolved about 200,000 years ago. Civilization as we know it is only about 6,000 years old, and industrialization started in the earnest only in the 1800s.Jan 26, 2006

annunaki2:
Your nemesis

Here, read your brothers in faith https://www.nairaland.com/3614778/7-australian-catholic-priests-alleged

Rilwayne001:
He used to be a Muslim before he turned atheist.

Ha i see. If you want to know if he is truly atheist, buy him a plane ticket. When he reaches 35000 above sea level, instruct pilot to nose dive the plane and see how "agentofAllah" would scream God God God to rescue him