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DeathStroke007:
Haba.. I have no idea what bidiah means.. Ok.. I accept.. Please educate me on what bidiah means


And concerning the issues I said I have no idea about.. Explain also sir

The issue of tarawee was dealt with several times. I really need not elaborate on that. Check albaqir's profile. I think he's the one who started the thread. Check it out and learn there. However, I somewhat disagree with shia's stands on tarawee. They do not reject it but i think they have problem with its congregation. Indeed, prophet(SAW) did not offer tarawee in congregation for the fact that people may make it conpulsory. Ths is just brief i can tell you.

As for sending blessings on sahabee, thats really not issue. It was not ordered by the prophet but it's intellectually sound to do so. It's not bid'a to say "radiaAllah anium" following mentions of any sahaba.

kennyosein:
My post is tangled according to your reasoning? Yh it is.

Like a brother said some of us hate spiders, but leave cobwebs around the house. Y'all want Muslim unity but belong to MSS, TMC, NASFAT and the rest. Some funny ones even do Sufism and Shiism!

E.mpiree if Salafis are just one sect and you don't belong there, you must necessarily belong to one of the other 72 for the Prophet (Peace be upon him) never lied. What do you say?

If you know your sect, why not write about it, if you claim rather not to belong to any sect or group, please explain the hadith below:

It was narrated from Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: “Those who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaa’ah (main body of Muslims).”

Kindly reconcile that with the hadith above as your 'no sect' suggests a 74th group or that you fall completely outside the fold of Muslims.

This is why i shunned salafism. Now, the reason i cant and dont belong to any sect is bcus of this verse of Glorious Quran:


[size=13pt]"As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did."[/size] 6:159


There is no doubt the hadith that talks about 73 sects is authentic for obvious reason. However, it is clear that salafis can not properly deduce correct methodology by reconciling the ayah of Quran above and the hadith you cited. Correct methodology is Quran sits in judgement over the hadith. The hadith you quoted is never encouraging sectarianism. It's mere prophecy. It's not ordering Muslims to join sects. This is very wrong. This shows that salafi interpreted the hadith literally. In that case your methodology is in conflict with Quran.


Another verse of Glorious Quran also warned you (30:32)

Those who split up their Religion, and become (mere) Sects,- each party rejoicing in that which is with itself!

So you basically rejoice by cleansing salafism as the 'only' saved sect and you rejoice doing that. You placed second source (hadith) over primary source (Quran).

DeathStroke007:
Yeah I remeber, concerning the masabah (tasbeeh), the hadith that said sahbeeh counted with stones and pebbeles are daif.. Weak hadith.. Why would sahbeeh do something prophet muhammad never did?

Whether it is daif is no longer relevant. I have came across similar. It not just one hadith but ahadith. The only hadith that condemned using stones and pebbles, its chain doesnt reach the prophet. It was opinion of one sahaba.

As for why sahabi did what prophet never did, honestly this is getting ridiculous everyday. Why would you expect rosul going about stones and pebbles and long tasbeeh?. He is more than that. The presence of the prophet in itself is blessings for his companions. He himself is blessings to himself. Why would he use pebbles, stones etc?. Can you try to rationalize for a moment?. Prophet (SAW) is not like us.

DeathStroke007:
Which rest?...

This...you addressed them already

Those who say it is wrong to recite salat al-fatih because it was not established by the prophet (peace be on him and his household) himself should bring prove why they themselves practice the following while it can NEVER be established as practice authorize by the prophet:

i. "Allahuma sali ala Muhammad wa ala ahlihi wa ala as'abihi ajmain"
NB: what is recommended is the unbolded part. Prophet NEVER authorized the bolded part. We only use our initiatives to add the companions as a result of their selfless contributions.

ii. Saying of "RadiAllahu anhum/Ridwanullah alayhi" after the name of the companions.
Even the companions themselves NEVER practice such not to mention the holy prophet (peace be on him and his household).

iii. Praying of Tarawih.
Muhammad (peace be on him and his household) NeVER institutionalized it. In fact he kicked against it and the 2nd khalifa who institutionalized it called it "Bid'ah Hassanat (good innovation)". He never tagged it as "Sunnati Nabiyy (practice of the prophet)".

DeathStroke007:
That number 1 and 2.. I have never hear it from any sunni.. And I have never recite it



And concerning saying rodiyallah annihu.. I have no knowledge about that.. I can't say anything



Concerning tarawih.. Please explain better..expanciate..

There is nothing to explain now. It is clear to me you have no idea what you have been saying concerning bid'a. You only hear folks say it and you too jumped the wagon.

Anyways, i have no problems with those phrases. They are just tip of iceberg. It's your homework to educate yourself. Ball is in you court bruh

DeathStroke007:
I don't care abot the meaning or content.. As long as its competing and some people have even replaced it with what prophet muhammad (saw) do say. Infact as long as prophet muhammad(saw) never recited it.. Stay away from it.. Simple as abc

And you care to address the rest?. They fall in the same category

DeathStroke007:
Nah.. Am not.. Its part of islam.. The adhaan.. If prophet(saw) had hammered it.. I would have called it bidiah .. Since adhan concerning khyrun mina num.. Is always called as first in fajr.. People calling it second adhaan during fajr is wrong.. That's what am saying

Na u sabi, mr. bidia shopper

DeathStroke007:
Bidiah or no bidiah.. People should stop reciting salatu fathi . . . Simply because its not sunnah.. Lobatan

Why should people stop reciting it?. Here is the translation of the meaning (of Solati fathi again):

O God bless our Master Muhammad (pbuh) who opened what had been closed, and who is the Seal of what had gone before, he who makes the Truth Victorious by the Truth, the guide to thy straight path, and bless his household as is the due of his immense position and grandeur.

You have problem with it?. Is there anything therein conflicting Shari'a?


Now, here are challenges you failed to address earlier. What do you say about these, bruh?

Those who say it is wrong to recite salat al-fatih because it was not established by the prophet (peace be on him and his household) himself should bring prove why they themselves practice the following while it can NEVER be established as practice authorize by the prophet:

i. "Allahuma sali ala Muhammad wa ala ahlihi wa ala as'abihi ajmain"
NB: what is recommended is the unbolded part. Prophet NEVER authorized the bolded part. We only use our initiatives to add the companions as a result of their selfless contributions.

ii. Saying of "RadiAllahu anhum/Ridwanullah alayhi" after the name of the companions.
Even the companions themselves NEVER practice such not to mention the holy prophet (peace be on him and his household).

iii. Praying of Tarawih.
Muhammad (peace be on him and his household) NeVER institutionalized it. In fact he kicked against it and the 2nd khalifa who institutionalized it called it "Bid'ah Hassanat (good innovation)". He never tagged it as "Sunnati Nabiyy (practice of the prophet)".

DeathStroke007:
Well, it may not be bidiah, it may be bidiah.. I don't know about that

You confused now

Tooka:
Very Interesting!
if you wants to boil the blood of salafis, you hyped Salatul Fatih. ALLAHUMA SALLI ALAAAA!!!!!!!!!! SAYIDINAAA!!!!!!!!! MUHAMMADIL..............

@DeathStroke007, "solati ibrahimiya" itself is not mandatory. So it's absolutely optional if you want to recite either solati. Sounds like the Sufi grasp the message. You dont. If solati ibrahimiya was obligatory, it would have been different. There would have been no option. Solati fathi is not bida'a

^Kenny, your post up there is just twisted upside down. You are just trying to cleanse 'salafism'. This is a twisted ideology bruh

Logical deduction here is that rosul(SAW) did not order him or teach him to include "Assalatu Khairum Minan Naum", indicating that an act that is in harmony with Sharia is NOT bida'a

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Be reasonable. He simply asked out of curiosity. You so quick to assume he's "competing" with Allah etc. Nothing wrong seeking knowledge. And fortunately he was answered. I dont have problem with it cus "the blessings" on nabi Ibrahim(as) are quiet obvious from Quran. We all grew up differently, and diversity must be respected. He asked the question unconsciously.

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Arrogance?. First it wasn't me because i dont have problem with it. I came across it online. It was a student who asked a Sheik. Indeed, wordings of Solati Ibrahimiyah does bring a question to mind. There is nothing wrong to ask alim "what's the blessing" sent on Nabi Ibraheem(AS).

And your last post is very ridiculous. It's your opinion. Religion is complete. No one says anything not directly taught by the prophet is obligatory. Just stop this.

This is also questionable too, right? It's bid'a?. Well, here is juice to drink.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم

The phrase Assalatu Khairum Minan Naum (Prayer is better than sleeping) was not part of the azan (calling for prayer) during the time of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) and it has been included in Azan later (1). Furthermore, Imam ash-Shafi‘i says in his Kitab al-Umm as such:

It is not pleasing for me to say "Assalatu Khairum Minan Naum" in the Azan of the prayer, because Aba Mahzureh has not brought this phrase in his hadith.(2)

In fact It was Umar Ibn Khattab who ordered to include the phrase, "prayer is better than sleep" (Assalatu Khairum Minan Naum) in the Azan at Fajr.(3)

There are other documents to prove the fact that "Assalatu Khairum Minan Naum" was later added to the Azan. I just mention two of them:


The azan reciter went to Umar Ibn Al-Khattab informing him the Fajr prayer time, He found Umar Ibn Al-Khattab asleep, so he shouted "Assalatu Khairum Minan Naum". Umar, ordered to include it in the azan.

We don't admit "Assalatu Khairum Minan Naum", and also we don't say that because this is not from the Prophet (PBUH).
Finally, Assalatu Khairum Minan Naum is used only for the Fajr prayer because it was included by Umar Ibn Al-Khattab in the Azan at Fajr.

Read Further From The Source: http://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/10590/why-is-assalatu-khairum-minan-naum-only-said-in-the-fajr-morning-azan-call-for


Further, It was narrated that Abu Mahdhoorah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I used to give the adhaan for the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and in the first adhaan of Fajr I used to say: “Hayya ‘ala al-falaah, al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm, al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm, Allaahu akbar Allaahu akbar, laa ilaaha ill-Allaah (come to prosperity, prayer is better than sleep, prayer is better than sleep, Allaah is Most Great, Allaah is Most Great, there is no god but Allaah).”


It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: In the first adhaan after the word al-falaah it said: Al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm, al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm (prayer is better than sleep, prayer is better than sleep).

Now, pay close attention to the ahadith, the phrase As salatu mina noum was not directly recommended by the prophet but Sahaba used the phrase. The prophet's silence indicates his approval. The phrase is in line with Shariah thats why rosul(SAW) said nothing. Just like we argued on other thread. Now, is it bida'a, be honest?.

What's "holy bath"?. What are you referring to...can you elaborate?

Brothers, please, you have right to not recite solati fathi. It's your prerogative. But to say it's bida'a just because of the source is irrelevant. There are other things we do today that are not directly taught by the Prophet (saw).

As for 40yrs thing @ Fundamentalist, there seems to be different reports. Just came across 40 days as well. So I really can't tell precisely.

As for the statement you brothers throw around like anything 'new' and not taught by the Prophet means the prophet (saw) didn't complete religion. Subhanallah. This is just wrong notion.

First all, there're is nothing called solati Ibrahimiyah. Ulama gave it the name not the prophet. Correct me if I'm wrong. Solati Ibrahimiyah in itself is not obligatory. It's a recommended act. Proof to me it is obligatory, please.

As for allegation raised by deathstroke007, that "its like saying reciting iklas instead of fathia", wallahi, you just went too far out of line. It's not comparable at all. If a muslim recites "solati fathi or Ibrahimiyah" instead of sura fathia, that would be bidah because this is obligatory act.

In the matter of obligatory ibadat, like 5 daily salat, a muslim can not make it 4 or 6. Or offer more than the prescribed rakat. That is bidah.

But in the matter of nonobligatory ibadat (nofilat or superrogatory), nofilat means not only rakat but also dua of all kinds, there is always different opinion. So solati Ibrahimiyah is non obligatory at all. It's not even obligatory to recite it after tashahud. Therefore anyone/muslims can send Salam on the prophet as deem fit for so long as the content is sharia compliant.

No muslims rejects or replaced "solati Ibrahimiyah". But if you brothers worry so much about the source of solati fathi, that's just too bad and I'm not taking you seriously because I know you brothers don't believe in auliya nor do you have respect for them. That's violation of sharia too.

Also albaqir raised issues up there that I posted earlier but it's not addressed. Remember islam is filled with thousands/millions of ulama. So your opinion is not binding nor is solati fathi or ibrahimiya binding on muslims. No. If it's then it means we must not follow just Quran letter by letter but we must also follow hadith by letter. If you disagree then, all muslims transported to western countries for medical treatment are also coming bidah including Saudi kings and shuyuk. You know why? . Bcus there is hadith that talks about for every disease there is cure and the prescriptions are right there in the ahadith. So why don't the kings also adhere to the prescriptions by the Prophet (saw) instead of running to EU for medical treatment? .

Its usually the sufis that exploit medical and scientific aspect of islam but you people accuse them.

If you are not comfortable reciting solati fathi, please leave it, damn it. No one forces it down your thoat. Its content is in harmony with Sharia and it's khayr. I notice you brothers have no problems with the content but the source. That's just irrelevant.

And Allah knows best.

Fundamentalist:
A man (so called waliy) went into seclusion for 40 years : I am asking did he offer the obligatory prayers?

If yes, did he offer it in congregation?

Did he offer the juma'at prayer for 40 years?

Don't forget the saying of the prophet about missing three juma'at prayers in succession.

Please provide proof that the so called waliy offered obligatory prayers from history and let people judge.

Please Make the answer easier for our audience by defining khawarij first

this is irrelevant to me brother. Some other versions report less than that. Your argument is cheap. Besides NIYAT is very important. Dont forget that. I do not question people's niyat. It's btw him and Allah. Niyat can be an exception

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pathways:
Assalam alaykum,

Waalaikum Sallam

@Empi.ree, I think you fail to get the problem here. You are just concerned about the content of the 'Solat', but the reward, significance and benefits attached to this 'solat' is the real issue here.

@underlined, did you carefully read my post between the lines?. Did I care about whatever rewards associated with it?. I am seriously less concerned about all that. It's insignificant. Even though there is no mentioned of specific rewards for "Solat Ibrahimiyyah", do we gain rewards for it or not?. Definitely, yes. So whats the big deal? Who cares if i recite solati fathi and get millions of rewards?. I dont. All i know is Allah rewards me for sending salawat on the prophet. Call the prophet(saw) anything you want except being God and son of God. Period

The originators and pioneers of this solat claim : “it is worth six thousand (6000) recitation of the Holy Quran'”. I ask you, you don't have a problem with this?

I am not gonna go back n fourth over this. First it's not the 'originator' who said this. Such claims emerged from some of the mureed (muridi). The students. They are the ones that usually come up with bunch of nonsense and you guys always take them seriously, seriously?. Go and study it a little over again, it was neither Sheik Ahamd Tijani nor Sheik Bakr said such a thing. It was some dudes.

They further claim: “After I studied the prayer (of Salat al-Fatih) I realized that it excels the worship of all jinns, humans, and angels”. As a Muslim, you definitely should have issues with the above statement.

This is nonsense, obviously. Any sane muslim would disagree. You also dont really provide concrete evidence. Even if you do, I wont take it serious because some muslim movements who against the Sufi have problems with literature. Like for instance, Tijjaniyah as we know it dont believe in solati faith being better than obligatory salat. But some dudes have found their ways and systematically corrupted the literature and said solati fathi is better than 5 daily prayers. Tijjaniyah ulama dont believe this but the silly thing is still in their literature. It is now being used against tijjani today. So you probably dealing with same thing here. I dont take all that seriously. The content (salawat) is khayr. It has nothing to do with this and that rewards or greater than xyz worship. NO.

Another of such heretic claims is:

– He who recites Salat-ul-Fatih ten times will gain a reward that even an `Arif (Sufi who has reached a high station of worship) who had lived for one million years would not get if he had not recited it.
– He who recites this Salah even once will have his sins forgiven and will have a reward as much as that for six thousand Tasbihs (saying: “Subhan Allah [Glory be to Allah]”).

Still insignificant. I dont know why you brothers attach too much negative stuff to these things. Rewards belong to Allah. He determines all that. I am not in the position. Do it or leave it. Simple. If I do any type of dua in my privacy, I know by Allah's Grace I get rewards. Problem is going about what i gain from it in public. Your claims are very irrelevant to me. I have heard this criticism many times. Even we see in ahadith certain rewards for certain duas. So I ask you what's the big deal?. Leave the people alone. It's no issue to me at all so long as the content is in harmony with Shariah. I can see clearly that you have no problem with the content but 'rewards'.

I asked on whose authority are they dishing out rewards of this kinds?.

This is the least you should concern about. Allah is Ma Ya Sha. He does as He Wills.

These people were not companions who met Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him and his household obviously, they only claim to receive the solat from him probably through dream or physically (which is not possible by the way).

Lol, it isnt possible to receive some sort of inspiration?. Inspiration here doesnt me revelation. Havent you read in the Quran that even the Bees receive inspiration?. Havent you read in the hadith about one part of nabuwa will remain till Last Age?. Yes, it's possible to receive some sort of inspiration(ishi pa ya) through dream. But this type of thing is not binding on anyone. What's is binding on us as muslims is kitab wa sunna. You have no right to condemn individual's relationship and benefits with Allah. No you dont.

I ask do we base our deen on the 'dream' or 'revelation through seclusion' of a man?

No. Individual dream is for the individual. Problem with many of these rewards is it should have been kept private. It should never have been made public. That's my problem with it. But to condemn it like you brothers do is way out of line. Islam is not base on dream. Obligatory practices in Islam are based on verses that are mukamot(clear evidence). The rest is between Allah and His slaves and no one, I mean no one has the right to condemn that.

Anyone can just wake up one day and come up with crazy claims and attributes it to the Prophet peace and blessings be upon him.

Thats individual's problem. He will have to answer that in Akhira.

It is only for the safety of our eemaan to desist from the recitation. May Allah assist us all.

No. You should say to snub the "rewards". The content is khayr. It's in harmony with 33:56.

All these secret things have been around even since 7th century. Because the world is messed up that's why everyone says rubbish all the time. You should rather say to properly coordinate non obligatory practices rather than abandoning them.

marock12:
Assalamu alaikum. Please my brothers in Islam i want to know what exactly Qur'an said about those among us that are causing trouble through giggling amongst friends?

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kazlaw2000:
wa alaykumu salaam. Pls elaborate further. I am not sure I understand ur question.

DeathStroke007:
Salatu fathi emanated from sheik Ahmed tijani..

This is incorrect brother.

The history of Salatul al-Fatih is this. A man named Sayyidi Bakri went into khalwa for 40 years, asking Allah to give him the best Salatul-ala Nabiyya. It was written on the wall in light and he was told not to give it to others until the owner of it appeared.

He claimed that rosululah(saw) appeared to him in his dream and gave him the azkar.. Claiming one Salatu fathi equals 100 Quran....

That's Tijjaniya problem. The content of the salawat is khayr. Period

Now bidiah means replacing what Prophet Muhammad (saw) instructed us to be doing with another thing entirely....

Wrong brother. Lets see definition of REPLACEMENT

[size=13pt]Simple Definition of replace:[/size]

: to be used instead of (something)
: to do the job or duty of (someone)
: to put someone or something new in the place or position of (someone or something)

Question is did they really replace "salat Ibrahimiyyah"?. [size=20pt]No.[/size] They recite both. They recite "Ibrahimiyyah" in salat after at-tashahud. They recite solati fatih during non-obligatory nafilat.

Now, here is solati Faithi:

Allahumma salli ' wa sallim was baarik ala Sayyidina Muhammadil

nil-fatihi lima Ughliqa wal khatimi lima sabaqa wan-naa-siril-haqqi

bil-haqqi wal-hadi ila Sirati-kal-mustaqima sal-lal-lahu 'alayhi

wa 'ala alihi wa-ashaabihi haqqa qadrihi wa-miq-da rihil-'azim.


Translation Of The Meaning

O God bless our Master Muhammad (pbuh) who opened what had been closed, and who is the Seal of what had gone before, he who makes the Truth Victorious by the Truth, the guide to thy straight path, and bless his household as is the due of his immense position and grandeur.

To do Salatu for Prophet Muhammad (saw) Salatu ibrohimiyah is the most appropriate and it's the only one prophet do recite during his life time and so does sahabahs...

Ma sha Allah... no muslims have problem with it. Now, here is question someone asked a Sheik and the question goes to you too. "Solati Ibrahimiyyah" does not exactly say which and what prayer is blessings we are asked to send on the prophet?. "Solati ibrahimiya" says "send blessings on Muhammad as You sent blessings on Ibrahim(AS). The brother asked what's the blessing?. This question applies to you too. Answer it brother. Besides, prophet never called it's solati Ibrahimiyyah. Correct me if I am wrong.

Salatu fathi is not part of Islam nor part of what Prophet Muhammad (saw) preached...

Obviosduly the content is Islamic. Here is the content of solati faithi.

O God bless our Master Muhammad (pbuh) who opened what had been closed, and who is the Seal of what had gone before, he who makes the Truth Victorious by the Truth, the guide to thy straight path, and bless his household as is the due of his immense position and grandeur.

You have problem with it?. How is this wording bid'a?. Is everything prophet didnt do is bid'a?

Salatu fathi is bidiah..

Your opinion obviously. Did you read Albaqir's write-up that i quoted up there?. None of you tackled the challenges. Can you scroll up and answer him?.

If you don't agree it's bidiah.. Please stop reciting it and learn Salatu ibrohimiyah that Prophet Muhammad (saw) do recite.. Just think of it as doing sunnah..

Those people who recite solati faithi also recite Ibrahimmiyah. They know both. They did not replace anything. In fact, solati faithi is in harmony with Noble Quran (33:56)

"Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect."

Allah knows best....

He Truly Is

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pathways:
where in the Qur'an?

When I said it's in the Quran, i dont mean exactly as its recited in order. I can go a little further but later. Meanwhile, kindly try to digest this write-up first and tell me what you think. JazakaAllahu Khayran

AlBaqir:
There are two opposing view concerning as-salat Fatih.
1. Those who condemned it reasoned that it was not prescribed by the holy prophet (peace be on him and his household). They further argued that what is established from the prophet is Salat Ibrahimiyah : "O Allah! Bless Muhammad and the household of Muhammad in exact manner you have blessed Ibrahim and the household of Ibrahim..."

These group deem any other form of 'salat ala Nabiyy' apart from the one above as 'Bid'ah - Innovation' which will lead to hell.

2. The second group also believe in the above salat Ibrahimiyah and they practice it esp. during tashahud but also recite an additional salat Nabiyy called "salat al-Fatih" and it reads:

"O God bless our Master Muhammad (pbuh) who opened what had been closed, and who is the Seal of what had gone before, he who makes the Truth Victorious by the Truth, the guide to thy straight path, and bless his household as is the due of his immense position and grandeur"

My humble Opinion
A. Seeking salawat upon the blessed Muhammad and his purified household is commanded by Allah in the holy Quran. It carries magnificent reward to the extent that "whoever prays and did not salute and send blessing on the prophet and his household, his prayer (salat) is void" ~Imam Shafi'i.

B. When the command of sending blessing upon the prophet was revealed, the companions ask how to go about it and the prophet (peace be on him and his household) recommended "salat Ibrahimiyyah". The question whoever is can we compose another form of praise and salawat for Muhammad (peace be on him and his household) in addition to salat ibrahimiyyah?

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong in doing that so far we did not abandon the initial one!

C. Going through the text of Salat al-Fatih, every single verse of the salat is in perfect harmony with the holy Quran and the recommended salat ibrahimiyyah.

D. Those who say it is wrong to recite salat al-fatih because it was not established by the prophet (peace be on him and his household) himself should bring prove why they themselves practice the following while it can NEVER be established as practice authorize by the prophet:

i. "Allahuma sali ala Muhammad wa ala ahlihi wa ala as'abihi ajmain"
NB: what is recommended is the unbolded part. Prophet NEVER authorized the bolded part. We only use our initiatives to add the companions as a result of their selfless contributions.

ii. Saying of "RadiAllahu anhum/Ridwanullah alayhi" after the name of the companions.
Even the companions themselves NEVER practice such not to mention the holy prophet (peace be on him and his household).

iii. Praying of Tarawih.
Muhammad (peace be on him and his household) NeVER institutionalized it. In fact he kicked against it and the 2nd khalifa who institutionalized it called it "Bid'ah Hassanat (good innovation)". He never tagged it as "Sunnati Nabiyy (practice of the prophet)".

E. The grave danger and controversy concerning salat al-Fatih is when some of its adherents begin to insinuate and make juxtapositions that the 'salat' is greater than Quran or can replace obligatory salat etc.

Allah knows best.

Salam alaykum
https://www.nairaland.com/1903287/solatul-fatih....right-wrong-recite#up

This is really eternal debate. It will never end

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smiley001:
Sir, are u kidding me?

3m naira, land cost inclusive?

Yes, believe it or not.