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Islam › Re: Ashura: Weeping For Al-hussain Ibn 'ali, A Sunnah Established By The Prophet by Empiree: 5:29pm On Oct 16, 2015
Demmzy15:
But AlBaqir what's up with some Shias and the beating? Educate me, do you do this also?! sad[/font]
This was explained up there by albaqir bro. He said some Ulama among Shia (probably certain sub-sect) made ijtihad and approved the silly procession. Exactly why I go against Sunni when they generalized. I knew it isn't all Shia that do that.
Islam › Re: Ashura: Weeping For Al-hussain Ibn 'ali, A Sunnah Established By The Prophet by Empiree: 5:26pm On Oct 16, 2015
Demmzy15:
[font=serif]You got it totally wrong, I meant what I said that I've got nothing to do with his death. But that doesn't mean I don't care, in fact the death of every pious Muslims must be a concern to us all.

When Al-Husayn wanted to leave for Karbala, the Salafs told him to stay but Allah knows the way He does his things. Husayn went and was martyred, the people of Kufah betrayed him. No Muslim was happy and we would continue to follow the footsteps of Hasan and Husayn(RadiAllahu Anhum) for their persistent effort to bring peace to the Ummah. You're presenting it as if the Ahl Sunnah hate the Ahl Bayt, we don't rather we love them and follow them. We follow all the Ahl Bayt from the Prophet's wives(Khadeejah, Aisha, Hafsat, Umm Salama, etc) to others. This is the way of the Salaf, I hope you'll agree with me.
My thought as well, Albaqir. No joke intended here. You got it wrong, sir.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jerusalem The Holiest City In The World by Empiree: 4:18pm On Oct 16, 2015
Annunaki:
It's suppose to be a place of safety according to the quoran yet the devil resides there and stones pilgrims to dearth every year plus including crane accidents, can you now see it's obvious your quoran is full of lies?
E be like say dem dey smoke igbo for your brain. Obviously, any sincere NL member knows that violence, trouble and unrest I am talking about; which happens daily in the Zionist-Jewish terrorists controlled Jerusalem.

Let's be reasonable a for a second, let's assume crane accident and stampede occur annually, how's that act of violence and unrest compare delebrate killings of innocent people at Masjid al-aqsa?. For the rest of the yr up until next Hajj, we may not hear about stampede or crane accident again unlike daily violence concocted by your zionist masters. smh for your weed-head and the one who gives you 'like'.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jerusalem The Holiest City In The World by Empiree: 12:39pm On Oct 16, 2015
plappville:
WhY WILL THERE BE PEACE IN JERUSALEM WHEN ISLAM IS PRESENT?
Olodo. Was Islam not there before establishment of Israel in 1948?. Wasn't the place peaceful prior to Balfour Declaration by the British christian/Zionist terrorists?.

YOU THINK U CAN COME HERE AND FAKE PEOPLE AS U DO IN THE ISLAMIC SECTION. OF COUSE WE CANT ACCEPT TO CONFESS to accept MUHAMED in other to enter the islam forum. THATS WHY YOU HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO POST ALL UR LIES IN DEFENDING ISLAM. There is no peace in Mecca either, and by the way, if the Jews built a Synagogue about 50 meters away from the so called holy site of Mecca, blood will flow each passing day. Dont comehere and tell me you know my parentvand grand parents more than me. Islam is a fabrication. Thier site is Jerusalem is just for a purpose.
Whats this nonsense all about?. Who forces you to make Islamic declaration? yeye. You still defending your man-god killers. Dont you think you make absolutely no sense.

And where is bombs going off in Mecca and Medina?. You can hardly see that. The reason is in the Quran because it is a place of PEACE & SECURITY.

Qur'an speaks. (2:125)

"Remember We made the House a place of assembly for men and a place of safety; and take ye the station of Abraham as a place of prayer; and We covenanted with Abraham and Isma'il, that they should sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or use it as a retreat, or bow, or prostrate themselves (therein in prayer)." Yusuf Ali
Christianity Etc › Re: Jerusalem The Holiest City In The World by Empiree:
plappville:
You level of reasoning is very shallow. You have just proved it. Do you have to single out the action of one parents to tag Christianity? Can you bring out a verses from the Christians bible teaching parents should beat thier kids to death if they refused to confess thier sin. Only then will you make sense. Did Jesus kill? Did he forgive sins? Did her authorised killing if a sinner refuses to denounce his sin? Answer there question with the bible then u make sense. I can show u verse from the koran where Muhammad authorised killing, hence the all terrorists attack we see today.
@bolded, exactly. When so called muslim parents from pakistan did the same you blamed Islam. smh. Dont these things happen in Nigerian churches even-though it is usually church members and pastors?.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jerusalem The Holiest City In The World by Empiree: 12:25pm On Oct 16, 2015
plappville:
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You muslims know the unique reason why Islam is connected to the site? This reason is found in the koran 17 Sura. It recounts the story of a dream Mohammed has where he takes a midnight ride grin ( al-Isra) on his flying horse al-Buraq, which had the face of a woman, the body of a horse and the tail of Peacock. The narrative of the Koran in Sura 17 describes it as follows:

Glory be to Him, who carried His servant by night from the Holy Mosque (in Mecca) to the further mosque (al-masjid al-Aqsa), the precincts of which we have blessed." The actual location of al-Aqsa (the further mosque) in Mohammed's dream ride is never mentioned. Early Muslims understood al-Aqsa metaphorically, or as a place in heaven. It was in late 7th century, the Umayyids claimed that the actual site of al-Aqsa was in fact the Temple Mount. Later the site of al-Aqsa was restricted to the mosque area at the southern end of the Temple Mount (the site of the current Al Aqsa Mosque). The original mosque, probably located on the site where Omar first prayed when he arrived in Jerusalem in 638, was built by the Umayyid Caliph al-Walid in the early 8th century. History even tells that it was destroyed by earthquakes several times and later rebuilt. If not for the false revelation of Muhammad, there wont be a mosque built There. Falsehood results to false claim.. undecided
You are so clueless. You have no idea of the history of the prophet(SAW) and in Medina where dealt with Jews whose qibla was towards Jerusalem and he joined them facing same direction (Jerusalem) before it was changed. Anyways, we live that story for another day. By the way, it is clear we are talking about Masjid and or 'Jewish temple' here. But you are a christian. Clearly, you have no business in Jerusalem and Middle east. You have no reference(Christianity) and claim to the Holy place whatsoever other than Jesus(AS) was born there. So now you defending the very same people who killed you man-god. You are puzzled indeed!
Christianity Etc › Re: Jerusalem The Holiest City In The World by Empiree:
plappville:
How about this Muhammad verse? undecided
And what's this verse (8:12) has to do with my statement above?.
Empiree: As holy as Jerusalem can be, controlled by Zionist Jews, is the real reason this Holy City of Qudus (Jerusalem) is not peaceful. When it was Muslims in control it was peaceful.
^ Is there any correlation btw them?. No, of course.
Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 12:32am On Oct 16, 2015
Christianity Etc › Re: Jerusalem The Holiest City In The World by Empiree: 12:04am On Oct 16, 2015
Rich4god:
@Empiree... Do you want other religion to be paying mobey to the Muslims abi...
huh Whatz up
Christianity Etc › Re: Jerusalem The Holiest City In The World by Empiree: 12:02am On Oct 16, 2015
OZAOEKPE:
Salaam bro!
walaikum Salaam waramotullahi wabarakat. How are you dear brother?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jerusalem The Holiest City In The World by Empiree:
So Op and others can not differentiate btw a Jew and Judaism?. Anyways, we live that for another day. As holy as Jerusalem can be, controlled by Zionist Jews, is the real reason this Holy City of Qudus (Jerusalem) is not peaceful. When it was Muslims in control it was peaceful. Now it's controlled by Jews and it's like hell on earth. Evidences are as clear as day light. Look at Mecca and Medina and see how peaceful they are under Muslim rule. Refer to my signature, please.

Qur'an speaks about "Jerusalem" a lot without mentioning its name. It's referred to in the Quran as "Holy Land". Holy Land in the Quran is not Mecca and Medina. However, one may find "Al-Qudus" in Hadith and Islamic literature used for Jerusalem. Muslims know too well holy land in the Quran is Jerusalem. You guys have a lot to learn from Muslims.

The oldest Holy city in the world and the holiest is Mecca followed by Medina followed by Al-Qudus. Quran also refers to Al-Qudus(Jerusalem) as Al-ard Muqaddasah. You can search internet for "Al-ard Muqaddasah" and read for yourself. Al-ard Muqaddasah means a Blessed Land.


Finally, whats the noise about "honor killing" attributed to Islam?. Bigots can read this. [size=15pt]Religious Parents Beat Son To Death Inside Church Sanctuary For Refusing To Confess His Sins.[/size]
http://naijagists.com/photos-religious-parents-beat-son-to-death-inside-church-sanctuary-for-refusing-to-confess-his-sins/#comment-429831
Islam › Re: Ashura: Weeping For Al-hussain Ibn 'ali, A Sunnah Established By The Prophet by Empiree:
Interestingly, Prophet marked that saddest day by weeping and mourning. The prophet wept for imam al-Husayn even before the incident happened.
Perhaps we can agree that prophet's "weeping and mourning" as highlighted is not synonymous with what some people do today by mutilating their bodies, correct?



3. The Ummah as a whole is accused of the murder of Imam al-Husayn. In particular, all of those Muslims alive at the time of the Karbala tragedy.
Me excluded grin I knew absolutely nothing about the murderers. So Empiree exonerated grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: A Muslim Woman Embarrassed Me For Eating With My Left Hand by Empiree: 6:46pm On Oct 15, 2015
Durentt:
i dnt understand dis
Very clear, simple and precise. His explaination is not written in French. Smh undecided
Properties › Re: 2(two) Flats Of 3bedroom Flat For Sale by Empiree: 11:30am On Oct 15, 2015
Actually, i dont live in nija, Was basically looking for building on behalf of somebody. I have forwarded this listing to the fellow.
Properties › Re: Another Budget Cctv Installation Done For A Nairalander With Pictures by Empiree: 3:36am On Oct 14, 2015
Major concern is electricity stability to enjoy it
Properties › Re: The Making Of The Port Harcourt "Duplex + 4 Flats" by Empiree: 6:56pm On Oct 13, 2015
kolomax:
#1200 not #1400
So it's really cheap now. Price wisely dropped. Great!
Properties › Re: 2Flats of 3Bedroom Flats in Abekoko, IFO- 3.5M by Empiree: 6:55pm On Oct 13, 2015
kensam11:
Did you get the Pictures on Link? Its on previous post. Please call 08166534863,
08087739760, 07081012274. for more enquiries
Yes, i got them. I will review them as time permits. Thanks
Properties › Re: 2Flats of 3Bedroom Flats in Abekoko, IFO- 3.5M by Empiree: 6:44pm On Oct 13, 2015
Alright....cool. Thanks
Properties › Re: 2(two) Flats Of 3bedroom Flat For Sale by Empiree: 6:09pm On Oct 13, 2015
Honestly, you should simply put up pictures. You don't need people to ask and wait for it before they see it. I really want to see it myself. Not just exterior but interior as well. Thanks
Properties › Re: The Making Of The Port Harcourt "Duplex + 4 Flats" by Empiree: 3:39pm On Oct 13, 2015
janykute:
Storing of cement is not a good idea though it all depends on how long you had in mind.Cement can congeal easily.
That will be waste of $#$#$#. Too bad. But i just wonder why cement dont congeal at local stores we buy them....what's the trick behind that?
Romance › Re: Advice Urgently Needed! by Empiree: 11:18pm On Oct 12, 2015
Olayinka8793:
My deafness affected me in very many ways, physiologicaly and emotionally and almost daily.
Ok well, my deafness affected my relationship with the opposite sex so much
Hello buddy, this is not the end of the road. You may be able to fix your hearing loss. I understand time long past since you had this accident but you may need to pursue professional physician for possible surgery or other recommendation like "hearing aid".

Did doctor(s) or anyone ever suggested hearing aid to you?. Try it out. I have no idea of the cost in Nigeria. Talk to your doctor first. You can do this man. You dont have to be deprived of this. Take a look at the pictures. They are hearing aids. Try it man. Good-luck.

Islam › Re: Words Of Wisdom Of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) by Empiree: 9:40pm On Oct 12, 2015
Lol... grin

The Surprising Welcome This Anti-Muslim Protestor Got At A Mosque

A woman (protester) showed up at mosque to protest anti-Islam/Muslims but ended up being hugged by a Muslim woman. Protests were scheduled to take place at mosques across the US last week but cancelled days before the event. Ohio woman did not know it was canceled. So she showed up at mosque alone. Here is what she said outside the masjid with her homemade signs(posters)

"Gee, I can't believe these guys asked me to come and then didn't show up,"


In the picture below is Annie who came to protest at masjid cultural center. Read further.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-surprising-welcome-this-anti-muslim-protestor-got-at-an-ohio-mosque_561bc168e4b0082030a3215a

Islam › Re: OBSERVATION. ..... by Empiree: 9:57pm On Oct 11, 2015
^ Walaikum Salam waramotul lahi wabarakatu


~Isa ibn Mariyam (AS)


Seek what you do not Know only after you
have put into practice what you do Know.

The disciples of Isa ibn Mariyam (AS) came to him and asked;
“O spirit of Allah, is there anyone else like you alive in our time?”
He replied: “Yes indeed, Whoever has the dhikr of Allah in his heart,
and is silent in thought, and who learns from what is given,
surely that one is like me.”

Isa ibn Mariyam (AS), asked his people:
“Where do you find a plant growing?”
They replied: “In the dust of the earth.”
He said: “By Al Haqq, I will tell you,
Marifat (Gnosis) does not grow except in a heart
that is like the dust of the earth.”

Isa ibn Mariyam (AS) met a man and asked him what his profession was.
The man replied: “I worship Allah.”
Isa (AS) then asked: ‘Who feeds and clothes you while you worship?”
“My brother,” The man replied.
Isa (AS) said: “Your brother’s worship is better than your own.”

Isa ibn Mariyam (AS) met three people while traveling,
They were pale and thin with fasting.
He asked them: “What has caused this state in you?”
They said: “Fear of the punishment of Allah”
Isa (AS) replied: “Allah has taken it upon Himself to lessen your fear.”
He continued on a way and came across three more
who were pale and thin with fasting, even more than the last.
He asked them: “What has caused this state in you?”
They answered: “Desire for Allah’s rewards”
Isa (AS) said: “Allah has taken it upon Himself to give you what you long for.”


Once again in his travels Isa ibn Mariyam (AS) came across yet another three who were pale and thin with fasting.
Their faces shone as if they were lit from within.
So he asked them: “What is the cause of your state?”
They answered: “We love Allah, the Mighty, the Glorious.”
Whereupon he replied: “You are the nearest, and nearer still!”

The companions of Isa ibn Mariyam (AS) said to him:
“Look at this temple, is it not beautiful?”
Isa (AS) replied: “My people,
by al Haqq I tell you, Allah does not leave this temple standing
except to destroy it by the sins of it’s inhabitants.
Surely, Allah does not care about gold and silver,
He does not care about this building that you admire so.
What Allah, the Most High loves are good hearts.
Allah inhabits the heart that remembers Him and He desolates
the heart that does not.”

Isa ibn Mariyam (AS),
passed by a group of men who shouted evil things at him.
In return Isa (AS) spoke to them with kindness.
His companions asked:
“Why did you reply to these men with kindness when they spoke evil to you?”
Isa (AS) replied: “Everyone spends from the coin he has.”
Islam › Re: Poetic Da'wah And Other Da'wahtic Writings by Empiree: 9:53pm On Oct 11, 2015
~Isa ibn Mariyam (AS)


Seek what you do not Know only after you
have put into practice what you do Know.

The disciples of Isa ibn Mariyam (AS) came to him and asked;
“O spirit of Allah, is there anyone else like you alive in our time?”
He replied: “Yes indeed, Whoever has the dhikr of Allah in his heart,
and is silent in thought, and who learns from what is given,
surely that one is like me.”

Isa ibn Mariyam (AS), asked his people:
“Where do you find a plant growing?”
They replied: “In the dust of the earth.”
He said: “By Al Haqq, I will tell you,
Marifat (Gnosis) does not grow except in a heart
that is like the dust of the earth.”

Isa ibn Mariyam (AS) met a man and asked him what his profession was.
The man replied: “I worship Allah.”
Isa (AS) then asked: ‘Who feeds and clothes you while you worship?”
“My brother,” The man replied.
Isa (AS) said: “Your brother’s worship is better than your own.”

Isa ibn Mariyam (AS) met three people while traveling,
They were pale and thin with fasting.
He asked them: “What has caused this state in you?”
They said: “Fear of the punishment of Allah”
Isa (AS) replied: “Allah has taken it upon Himself to lessen your fear.”
He continued on a way and came across three more
who were pale and thin with fasting, even more than the last.
He asked them: “What has caused this state in you?”
They answered: “Desire for Allah’s rewards”
Isa (AS) said: “Allah has taken it upon Himself to give you what you long for.”


Once again in his travels Isa ibn Mariyam (AS) came across yet another three who were pale and thin with fasting.
Their faces shone as if they were lit from within.
So he asked them: “What is the cause of your state?”
They answered: “We love Allah, the Mighty, the Glorious.”
Whereupon he replied: “You are the nearest, and nearer still!”

The companions of Isa ibn Mariyam (AS) said to him:
“Look at this temple, is it not beautiful?”
Isa (AS) replied: “My people,
by al Haqq I tell you, Allah does not leave this temple standing
except to destroy it by the sins of it’s inhabitants.
Surely, Allah does not care about gold and silver,
He does not care about this building that you admire so.
What Allah, the Most High loves are good hearts.
Allah inhabits the heart that remembers Him and He desolates
the heart that does not.”

Isa ibn Mariyam (AS),
passed by a group of men who shouted evil things at him.
In return Isa (AS) spoke to them with kindness.
His companions asked:
“Why did you reply to these men with kindness when they spoke evil to you?”
Isa (AS) replied: “Everyone spends from the coin he has.”
Islam › Re: Words Of Wisdom Of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) by Empiree:
true2god:
No practicing Jew or christian will marry a muslim man either. No sane christian woman will marry a muslim man that already had 3 wives. According to Jesus, that is immorality and uncleanliness but absolutely ok in Islam.
You really make no sense. Keep deceiving yourselves(Christians). If you truly want to be like Jesus you should never marry at all. That's called a true "Christ-like". Are those pastors and Christians who marry multiple wives less Christians and not following Christ?. Now take your time and read this exposition.

[size=15pt]THE AGONY OF MONOGAMY- BY TOLA ADENIYI[/size]
http://folasophical.com/?p=1965


No christian woman will marry a man who will go to meccan to worship an idol or stone a fictitous devil. In christianity is called idolatory. And you know what, you cant really separate idolatery from islam.
Silly and irrelevant

On the issue of pork or no pork, i eat pork. Yes i eat it. Jewish tradition forbids eating of pork, because pigs are considered unclean. Jesus, when he was on earth, told his disciples that 'it is not what a man eats that defiles a man but what comes out from the man such as evil taught, murderous taught, adulterous and forninative taughts etc'. Not eating pork is part of Jewish tradition till date. God will not punish anyone for eating pork. You need to differentiate ceremonial law, physical and hygienic law and spiritual laws that guides the behaviours of the biblical israel. If pork is prepared under a very hygienic condition it a good food. The hindus dont eat cow\beef, but have no right to condemn people that do.
And where in the Bible Jesus says to eat Pork?. Dont quote me Mr. Paul, please.

Let me teach you something, some years back their was no mortuary hence, under the Jewish physical and hygenic laws, corpse must be buried same day to avoid decomposition which might creat health hazards. But with modern technology and morgues\mortuaries, bodies can be keep in a safe condition for days before final burial. Some laws are made for specific time and conditions.
Rubbish. This is your man made theory. Keeping corpse for certain number of days will have to depend on "special" circumstances. Not the way Christians do it today. You have today turned it in to ceremonial bs.
Islam › Re: Words Of Wisdom Of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) by Empiree: 4:42pm On Oct 11, 2015
There is no need to delete it. It serves as reference in the future. Let Lalasticlala move it to Islam section instead.
Islam › Re: Words Of Wisdom Of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) by Empiree: 4:37pm On Oct 11, 2015
midolian:
Lalasticlala, pls help me close or delete this thread. I thought I posted it in the Islam for muslim section. Thanks
Dont take it personal bro. We are used to these low lives nincompoops. You can see reason why muslims have separate section for themselves. And they (christians) still cry like morons
Islam › Re: Words Of Wisdom Of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) by Empiree:
true2god:
You said all prophets of all religions (hindu, shinto, judaism, christianity and bhudism) till the time of mohammed, are all muslims. Thats is right. So tell me if Gautama bhuda (founder of bhudism) and confucius (founder of confucianism) are also muslims because they exist far before mohammedic islam.
Go and study comparative religion please. Dr. Zakir Naik may be able to help you with Hindu monotheistic(Islam) text. Sheikh Hassan Yee may be able to help you with Buddhist monotheist(Islam) text.

And again, why did the quran not mention prophets of other religions but shamelessly lifted Jewish prophets (because mohammed was obviosly familiar with them) as muslims?
Allah, may He be exalted, sent Messengers to every nation and He stated that they came one after another, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Then We sent Our Messengers in succession, every time there came to a nation their Messenger, they denied him, so We made them follow one another (to destruction), and We made them as Ahadeeth (the true stories for mankind to learn a lesson from them). So away with a people who believe not” [al-Mu’minoon 23:44]


“Verily! We have sent you with the truth, a bearer of glad tidings, and a warner. And there never was a nation but a warner had passed among them” [Faatir 35:24].

Allah has named some of those Messengers and told us the stories of some of them, but not of many others. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, We have inspired you (O Muhammad SAW) as We inspired Nooh (Noah) and the Prophets after him; We (also) inspired Ibrahim (Abraham), Ismail (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), Yaqoob (Jacob), and Al-Asbat (the twelve sons of Yaqoob (Jacob)), Iesa (Jesus), Ayub (Job), Yoonus (Jonah), Haroon (Aaron), and Sulaiman (Solomon), and to Dawood (David) We gave the Zaboor (Psalms). And Messengers We have mentioned to you before, and Messengers We have not mentioned to you, - and to Moosa (Moses) Allah spoke directly” [an-Nisa’ 4:163-164].


Ibn Katheer (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

These are the names of the Prophets whose names are mentioned in the Qur’an: Adam, Idrees, Nooh, Hood, Saalih, Ibraaheem, Loot, Ismaa‘eel, Ishaaq, Ya‘qoob, Yoosuf, Ayyoob, Shu‘ayb, Moosa, Haroon, Yoonus, Dawood, Sulaymaan, Ilyaas, al-Yasa‘, Zakariya, Yahya, and ‘Eesa (blessings and peace be upon them), as well as Dhu’l-Kifl according to many commentators, and their leader is Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him).

The words “and Messengers We have not mentioned to you” mean: other people who are not mentioned in the Qur’an.

This means that muslims must believe in other prophets not mentioned in the Quran. Even if followers of those prophets have strayed from the teachings of the prophets, at the minimum, we must hold on to the fact that those prophets preached nothing but Lailaha illa Allah (There is no deities worthy of worship except Allah alone). This is the message all God's prophets and messangers were sent with according to Quran [sūrat l-anbiyāa]

"And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad SAW) but We inspired him (saying): La ilaha illa Ana [none has the right to be worshipped but I (Allah)], so worship Me (Alone and none else)."



In the recent UN meeting of world leaders, the Isreali prime minister (Benjamin netenyahu) said that David founded their capital Jerusalem and king solomon built the temple mount, which was destroyed by the romans and the muslims currently built the alqsa mosque. He specifically said they are all Jews. No muslim leader in the united nations conference could make any attempt in denyin that fact of history, but would rather go to their mosque lying to their members that all Jewish prophets are muslims. Muslims have no shame\conscience.
So you are also confused like Natay?. You can not differentiate tribe from religion. Judaism is a religion. Jew is a tribe from descendants of Judah. The same way Christians named Christianity after Jesus(Alaiy salam). Does that mean Jesus practiced Christianity?. Many of you Christians have answered this question that Jesus did not practice Christianity. The same way Prophets Daud(David) and Sulaimon(solomon) did not practice Judaism, (Natayahoo doesnt have proof of that); is the same way you have no proof that Jesus practiced Christianity. This was discussed extensively in a thread by rilwayne months ago.


Ok Em.piree, tell me if any Jewish prophet (in the bible) ever mention allahh in their prayers, ever visited mecca, even throw a stone at the 'devil' (as muslims do). Tell me if any Jewish prophet ever marry a girl of 6, ever encircle kabba.
Irrelevant. This we discussed before. Waste of time to go over this. Kindly refer back to the thread. I believe it was truthman that opened the threrad months ago.

[s]So you are either ignorant or deliberately lying as sanctioned by mohammed (piss on him).[/s]
This is very unkind of you. This is why i detest dialogue with nitwit sometimes. We the Muslims love our prophet dearly. We are instructed to leave the area where he's being mocked at bcus Allah's curse rains down in that arena. You either keep your silliness with you or engage in scholarly dialogue. Thank you.
Islam › Re: Words Of Wisdom Of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) by Empiree: 3:05pm On Oct 11, 2015
true2god:
Yes I worship and pray in 'Jesus' name' cos it is in the christians scriptures for me to do that. Muslims also make mention of mohammed in their daily prayers. In fact no islamic prayer is complete if mohammed's name is not mentioned.
You sound very clueless everyday. I thought you smarter than this mr. Have you ever seen/heard any muslims said "in muhammad name I pray"?. Rather we send salutations and Blessings of Allah on him. See the difference?. It's an order made obligatory by God to send peace and blessings on the prophet. This is sura 33:56. This is contrary to what christians do.

You pray to Jesus but we invoke God's peace and blessings on Muhammad. Spot the difference? .


Mohammed is synonymous to allah
Olodo. Allah is God - creator of heavens and earth and all that exist. Muhammad is His prophet and messenger.
Islam › Re: Words Of Wisdom Of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) by Empiree:
joseph1832:
My bone of contention is still the same, why forbid a muslim lady from marrying a christian man when gracefully allowing a muslim man to marry a christian lady. If you ask me, I believe the goal here is to make it easier for the muslim man to use his dominance and influence on the christian lady forcing her to convert.
See, if you said so, so be it. QURAN recognizes superiority of men and their strength at some point. This goes the other way around as well. Take Jews for instance. Practicing Jews don't even marry outside Jewish clan. And have never seen devout and pacticing Jewish women marry non jew. Very rare. If christians follow strictly their law, I tell you, you would notice the same. But they are far from teachings of Jesus. A muslim woman marrying Christian man is liable for cooking and eating pork for example which is forbidden in Islam. Devout muslim woman will disagree with you, sir.

Of all the Islamic law, this particular law is what I find appalling, because it clearly shows favor to the muslim man and disfavor the muslim woman. I speak this way because this law has deprived me of happiness once upon a time.
A practicing muslim woman will disagree with you. You are looking at it from entirely different perspective. Such women will feel uncomfortable in the relationship where they have to prepare pork, bacon, or meat slaughter inappropriately (for example) for their husbands. Christians have abandoned these tenets.

It does not in anyway deprived them of happiness. But I wont argue about nominal or secular muslims. Mind you muslim men also do not have free pass to marry just any Christian women. This is really a case of ijma (consensus).

Scholars of islam on different views have said that Christians of today no longer adhere to message of Jesus. Therefore they are technically not people of the Book of old except few.

If you want to confirm my point just bring up gay issue and see worldwide percentage of Christians who either agree with it or see nothing wrong being gay. The percentage would be high. This is contrary to Jesus' teachings.
Islam › Re: Words Of Wisdom Of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) by Empiree:
true2god:
The reasons you gave on why a muslim woman is not allowed to marry non-muslim is ridiculous and fraught with typical islamic lies, distortions and deceptions.

First you rumbled on the Jews not accepting Jesus and mohammed and the christians not accepting mohammed. You cant force people, or anyone, to accept someone as a prophet. If the Jews dont accept Jesus it is no anyone headache and if the christians and Jews take mohammed as an arabian cult leader and a criminal, that is their business. You cant judge their belief system based on what is written in your quran, which they dont accept.

You said muslim women wont be confortable in a christian home since they (christians) reject mohammed as a profect (and christians are polythiest) but a christian woman can be married to a muslim man because mohammed\islam is true. Can you see how unreasonable islamic logic is? Who told you islam\mohammed is true? Quran i guess. No sane christian accept quran as true because it is completely against the teachings of Jesus and from the devil himself.

You said muslim believe in all prophet. What\who make up the 'all prophet'? Mohammed right? Do you believe in Hindu prophet? No. Do you believe in the Bhudist prophet? No. So why lying to us that muslims believe in 'all prophets'?

You complain of christians bashing Islam. Thats true, christians bash Islam and muslims bash christianity too. Do you know the genesis of religious bashing? It is the quran and the hadith. Over half of the quran is devoted to the bashing and physical threatnings of non-muslims, especially christians and Jews. Mohammed, in the quran, even said that the Jews are 'descendants of apes and pigs' while christians are cursed. Christian\Jewish bashing are not canonized in the bible while the muslim bashing of christians and Jews are a religios duty in the quran.

I will attach some you-tube video by islamic clerics devoted to christian bashings with verses in the quran. Dont pretend as if islam is not eternally devoted to christian bashing 'Oh you hypocrite, aka Empire'.
What are you saying. Sura Imran ayah 84 answers your qusetion. When I said "all prophets" it means all from the time of Adam to the last of them because they are all muslims. If their followers diluted their teachings, that's something different like christians messed up Jesus's teachings replaced by Paul's.

Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."

@blue font means other prophets not mention in the Quran but are mentioned in Bible, Torah, Hindu and Bhudist holy Books. We believe in them all.
Islam › Re: Words Of Wisdom Of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) by Empiree: 11:50am On Oct 11, 2015
true2god:
@ Emp.iree you said and I quote, 'This Christians of today are not the same people of the time of Jesus and Muhammad. These Christians today are polytheists. This is another subject to be discussed'.

Mohammed said, Quran 3:64: Say, "O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you - that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah." But if they turn away, then say, "Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him]."

Mohammed also said, Quran 9:30, The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?

Jesus said, John 10:28-32, 'And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand. My Father (God), which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand. I and [my] Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

Jesus said, John 5:25 I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live.

Jesus said again, John 10:36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, `I am God's Son'?

And again Jesus said, John 11:4 When he heard this, Jesus said, "This sickness will not end in death. No, it is for God's glory so that God's Son may be glorified through it."

And lastly Jesus said in John 17:1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: "Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you."

Now my question is this, is it you or mohammed that is confused concerning the personalities of Jesus? What did the pre-Islamic christians and contemporary era of mohammed christians believe, concerning Jesus, that the current christians do not believe?

And lastly, dont you see that mohammed contradicted Jesus so many way, both in character and theology? I need you rebuttal please.
What is this one saying?. You worship Jesus or not?. Jesus is 100% human being. You worship him or not?. I dont really have your time here man. This was debated already.

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