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^ Lol, those are pseudo "muslims". If you are talking about their political view, I can agree with you.

^May God(Aza'wajal) of Abraham bless your brain. I hope they get it.

Wealthyone:
Was / Is he a muslim? What was / his muslim name?

Yes, he is. He said his father is cleric. The thing is, i have been reading his interviews on different websites. He has a very limited knowledge of islam.

He once said islam forbids marrying more than one wife. His wife may be good but he has extreme little approach to islam. This thread doesnt proof anything. He had been to church with his wife several times and being suspected of converting to Christianity. He always denied conversion. As a matter of fact, the last interview I read last week, i knew he was going to a big upcoming event in church. He said it in the interview.

Although i wont be surprised if he embraces Christianity. Thats not difficult to deduce. May Allah correct his understanding of the deen

kazlaw2000:
@empiree, pls what about that sister? What is she up to now? You mentioned u saw her in another thread.

Also i think we've all said enough on this issue of Bidya. Enough for the discerning mind.

You right. i am not responding to that anymore. I already made up mind. As for the sister, i haven't heard from her lately. Let's assume she's busy.

@ sino, honestly, this whole thing is in cycle. I hate to keep talking about this over. Those people chasing "nakali" and not knowing basics, thats their problem. You can not use that as platform to condemn others like your Alfa reciting as many "Ya Lateef" as he wants in his privacy. It's still sunnah to do so. Whatever he benefits from that is his. It's still within the Shariah.

“...This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion...” (Qur'an 5:3)

^ no one denied this. The whole idea of doing as much dikhr as one wants is still within shariah. What is outside shariah is calling on others other than Allah. Do you want your alfa chanting Ya Jinn?

I have outlined before that our differences here is like scenario between Khidr (as) and Musa (as). Personal experiences are not binding on anyone nor does it constitute a new deen, nor does it scopes outside of shariah.

Hadith or opinion of individual can not be used to pass judgement or divide us. Quran comes first. As you can see, your Quran quotations in condemning doing good deeds unlimited are quiet limited. Just much of hadith and opinion of individuals. Quran sums up a lot. Enough said now. We are muslims and brothers. Walaikum Salam

Note, as for the sister inflicted with Jinn, supposedly. I think you missing the point. I have raised a question but brothers avoided it. You said:

The Prophet (SAW) has thought all we need to know, he thought us how to protect ourselves from Jinn and he thought us how to do Ruqyah. Muslims have neglected the Sunnah, hence they are chasing miracle like the people of the book, looking for what is not lost

I dont have problem with what is theoretically taught. Thats not the point. Points raised was...

Someone possessed by Jinn lives alone in another man's land where no muslims live. The Jinn possession is extremely classical. Sino and tbaba1234's assistance are sought, what do you do?

Please dont pretend these conditions dont exist. I have seen this. By classical possession, i meant most likely victim can not help himself or herself. This one is what the sister going through, i think. clearly no experience muslims by her according to her. And at the beginning of her thread she displayed just what i thought. You have to think outside the box. People have various problems. We need to approach them intelligently within the shariah.

Many ruqya seen on YouTube for instance, victims are close by. How about those far and alone? She even said whenever she sets out to go to ruqya place, Jinn lives her body to bypass the process. Jinn returns to her after she returns home. Also Jinn are capable of making dua (ruqya on themselves) difficult for their victims or discourage them. I ask you what do you do about that?. You have to have practical experience. Sufi ruqya is the same as in the sunnah. Not otherwise.

Please, I dont have problem with ruqya taught by the prophet(saw). Just think about those conditions up there, that's all.

i dey read in 3D

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Another blow dealt with Black Americans today by Grand Jury in New York over police execution of a Black man, Eric Garner in July. After months of jury deliberation as to whether to indict police officer, Jury came out with verdict today @2pm saying the NYPD officer will not be indicted. Below is the video of the execution.

Just over a week ago or more, Grand Jury refused to indict a police officer who murdered a Black man in St. Louis in August. Daris God oooo

Another African American was murdered by police for visiting a friend in rent controlled building some 3 weeks ago. So far, nothing is being heard of that. Na wa ooooo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-xHqf1BVE4

^Salaafis are just reading and memorizing books. That's, literal understanding of text. I have come to understand that. I felt in their camp in late 2008 and was there until 2011. I meant on facebook. Then I learned that they are not penetrating Quran or hadith.

They memorize a lot and start talking everything they memorized from the books. Other than that, they (not all) speak aggressively and all that. They are more like militant stuff without guidance. I also notice that they are easily cajoled by Western govt who give them money and weapons to kill their fellow muslims they perceived kufar. I almost got in trouble because of them in 2011.

They are simply on basic understanding of the deen. That's, fundamental layer. Anything else beyond, they have no clue. This is not meant to vilify them rather to say fact. I also notice that there is a 'secret alliance' btw Salaafis and Judeo/christian. Average Salafi may not know but if you pay close attention to them, you will figure it out. I have been studying this for few years now.

They believe that anything not "written" or "seen" in the Kitab Quran wa Hadith doesnt exist. This is called protestant Islam. If you trace that, it links to the British. Let me give you example. Hadith speaks of Dajjal that it will ride on a "donkey", have it ears stretched wide and run faster. Sufis (men of knowledge) said this is religious symbolism. That text should not be taken literally. A "donkey" Rosul(saw) was talking about is here already. It's modern aircraft. But Salafis are waiting for a "flying donkey" (flesh) donkey(animal) with wings. Since a brother told me this, I know i am in a wrong camp.

The above example is just a trait of Dajjal. Doesnt mean Dajjal is here in person. Not yet. Also, their understanding is if Allah and His messanger have not interpreted a verse, no one has the right to do so. But Quran speaks in Sura Imran that some verses are clear. Some are not and are only known to Allah and men of knowledge. They are verses of "mutashabiat" and need to be interpreted(Tawil) As you can see, Salafis are the ones shaming muslims all over the world. Sad.

On "Akudaya"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaAUwdjCmX0

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Brothers,

Let me tell you what I have been observing for at least 2yrs in real world and few months on NL. I notice that muslims are not happy. Even non muslims are not. First all, in real life, we go to Jummah every week and it's the same thing all over. People get bored. What we hear imams say is "on the Day of judgement this and that rewards, evil will get punished" etc. Another jummah comes, it's "on the Day of judgement this and that rewards, evil will get punished" etc. Another Jumah, it's same thing over again.

Just last Jumah, another imam was talking about Salat which i personally have no problem with. But it seems because it is too routine, folks are getting bored. Guess what, a man sitting next to me said "this imam is crazy". This is during Jumah. One of the adhab of Jumah is to be silent during khutba. It doesnt matter whether you are comfortable or not. Point is, people get frustrated. They dont feel spiritual connection....something they read in the Books and history of past Ulama.

Two weeks ago, I came across article written by a muslim. He appears to be non practicing from the way he talks. Criticizing modern way and approach to islam today. Around the same time, I read another article written by a christian. He appeared matured. He also criticized not Christianity but muslims' modern approach. I definitely disagree with some things he said. But he made points.

Same here on NL, I have notice some muslims dont want to associate themselves with the muslim section. As you can see, in most cases, the same faces we see all the time. Those other muslims prefer to comment on non religious issues. So when i noticed this, I tried to narrate my experience about the man i was talking about on a thread created by a Christians girl tagged "Akudaya".

Subhanallah!, I cant imagine overwhelming comments and lots more emails sent to me. Both muslims and non-muslims. I could see clearly that people are tired of same old preaching/teachings. This is what I observed on muslim section and it bores them a lot. That's why I chose new dimension and started talking about mysticism, dikr and Jinn. Folks want to hear stuff like that. It makes their day. Now I am not saying such stories are very important to our deen. I am saying there is a need to give room for diversity. And not placing restriction on folks.

I also notice that after I narrated the story half way on Akudaya thread, it reveals that many are having lots and lots of problems mostly spiritual. They started asking me questions thinking I involve in some types of conversation with God. What i did was in order to avoid burden upon myself, I directed them here and one other thread on Jinn and how to deal it with. Yes, many did visit these threads but did not comment. They sent me private emails. Until now, I am still getting.

We should not restrict Islam to Books. Folks get bored. Folks want to hear karama. Why are we pretending we dont have that in Islam?. Remember, most of those people are weak. Weak muslims and Christians. These are people that need help.

Also, I didnt want to be too forward on a thread tagged "How To Get Rid Of Jinn". I appreciate all responses there to help the sister. But I sense that the sister doesnt seems happy. Remember she said she had been going to different places of Ruqya to solve her problems for yrs?. But she doesnt seem to have real muslims around her. She came here seeking help. It looks like she perceived the same thing she was being told in the past. Guess what?. I saw her on another thread where an Igbo man is having similar problem. The guy also went to different places of worship and problem never solved. He finally met what I consider haram path to subdue his Jinn. This sister asked if the guy could tell her what he used?. I didnt see any comment from her since then.

My point is if we pretend there is no karama in our time (in Islam) we are fooling ourselves. We sent many Quran verses for her to recite, she appears too burdened(my opinion). If we refused to do our duty, people like her will eventually seek help from haram means and they get better and vacate Islam. This is because of our st-upidity criticizing this and that. There is a need to allow differences of opinion. We have 4 Schools of Law in Sunni. Shia also have theirs. Each have different approach to things and it's still going to be in line with Sunnah. One aspect of interpreting Islam should not dominate and claim right to truth. I hope the sister gets better. She hasnt been communicating lately.

@ sino, as you can see, so far, no hadith forbids muslims from doing dhikr as much as they want and as long as they bother no one. But quoting hadith cheaply to dissuade others and to achieve ones level of practices/understanding is simply irrelevant. At least, you are moderate in your view compare to some.

Fact is, we can not use hadith to divide or pass judgement etc. Quran comes first. Thats our primary source and it sums up a lot. You can not compare a muslim at lower level iman to mumin and musin. To reach levels of mumin and musin is no joke. Thats where real experiences are.

It's from among @bold we see real muslim scholars, physicians, astrologists, mythologists, meteorology, eschatology, epistemology, you name it. These people are not just reading books. They go beyond that. This doesnt mean they disown books. No. But to restrict Islam to books is just too bad.

Islam doesnt work like that. That methodology narrows the scope of pursuing knowledge. Thats what they are saying. Restricting Islam to book results only to memorizing this kitab and that kitab. Not much practical can be deduced from that. Quran laid emphasis on seeking knowledge. If any hadith restricts that, such hadith will have to be set aside. It's because we reduced islam to paper only is the reason the west trumped over us today. We shouldnt have to take our sick (for example) to non-muslim hospitals if we are firm on our iman.

AlBaqir

Second, what we have as various forms of du'a, dhikr etc recommended by the prophet (which constitute the "Sunnah"wink are designed for the generality in such a simplified manner not to over-burden us because if he recommended more than that, people will be over-burdened and will eventually run away. Allah and His prophet (peace be on him and his progeny) knows our capability. This does not translate to "Do not do beyond that" or "if you do outside that, you've committed sin or bid'ah". There's no single evidence for that. However, the mistake our ulamas do make is they simply don't study the capability of their followers before they recommend.

May God bless you and household. You grabbed my point

Repetition of dhikr to x number depending on your capability helps a lot in spiritual quest and reward. If 10 rewards is written for 1 salawat ala Nabiyy, I will do as many x numbers I can to earn X10 of that reward. That mouth-watering but the ball is in your court.
NB: How many 'salawat' did the prophet do for himself and his progeny? How did sahaba do per day? None recorded in the 'ahadith' yet it was a plain command in the book of Allah for the believers. We are at liberty to do as we are capable of.

Again, thanks a lot. You captured my mind. There is no concentrate in saying istigfar 3x and claim to have done dhikr. No connection in that. If some cant do it multiple times doesn't warrant quoting hadith to cheaply dissuade others. You really get it.

Yet, even the Muqarabuns are of different elevated degrees. Khidr and Musa (peace on them both) were both of 'as'habul Muqarrabun' yet Musa cannot fathom the inner qualities of Khidr

Again, another evidence to do dhikr as much as you want as long as you dont bother others. Thanks again Albaqir

The holy prophet was reported by 'Aisha to have prayed in the middle of the night to such extent that his two feet became swollen. If 'Aisha did not revealed that out, nobody would have known and he (peace be on him and his progeny) will never command or advise his companions in general to do such. Alas! That is only 1 out of many private ibaadat Aisha could see.

sino:
Empiree,

The Sheikh in the video you uploaded did not make any reference to the Qur'an or Ahadith on Ruhaniyah, just sayings of some people. In the matter of religion, especially worship, if there is no reference to the Qur'an or Ahadith, then how can you be confident about it?! Are you trying to say that the Prophet (SAW) did not complete his task or deemed it unnecessary to inform us of these class of creation that we can interact with?! And no sahabah ever encountered them or talked about them?

The Qur'an is clear, and the Ahadith are clear, Allah created Man, Jinn and Angels, he created other things we don't know, and in His wisdom, he didn't mention it to us and hence, not important for our spirituality and salvation.

If you want to convince me that Ruhaniyah are not Jinns, then bring authentic ahadith or Qur'anic verses.

Thank you.

I honestly dont want to drag this. You most likely believe in existence of' "Egbere" in yoruba. But Egbere are not mentioned in the Qur'an. i saw egbere one time. They are Allah"s creatures. UFO is probably another mystery in the West yet Qur'an doesn't mention them by name. Qur'an sums them up as "all that exist".

A sheik said on Youtube that you can not describe to people how honey tastes unless and until they put it in their mouth. This means until muslim actually experience it. And you are right, they are not important but those muslims who got the nerve to seek this should never be labelled something negative. Seeking knowledge is Qur'anic and Sunnatic

So far no concrete evidence of them being Jinn but undocumented evidence confirmed from various sources they are Ruh-aniyah. Sounds like something pure. Allah speaks about Ruh variably, too. Jinn are not Ruh in the Qur'an. They are specifically created from fire. It's we human that call them spirit especially Christians.

No offence, what I understood is your Alfa should have said he was seeking wisdom and knowledge. Nothing wrong with that because he invoked Allah's name....doesnt mean hes transgressing. That only happens if he invoked mumbo-jumbo other than Allah. Everything is not exactly 123 or abc in the hadith and yes religion is complete. Qur'an speaks of things that are not entirely clear. Only Allah knows and few among men of knowledge Allah gave Nur-light. That's why such experience are personal and not binding on anyone. But calling them kafir which is what mainstream are doing is just plain nonsense. Qur'an explains all things (internally and externally acquired) Wallahu ta'ala allam

^i honestly don't see how i disrespected your Ustaz actually. This is online and the way read things on our minds determine how we actually feel and react to it. But i wont deny possibility that i might reacted towards his actions negatively. In that case i sincerely apologize.

On counts, i guess blames should be on narrators of those ahadith. Here is my opinion on that and i can be wrong. I think when they do zikr, they paid close attention to the (at number of exact) where wonders begin to transcend. Thats sounds like science. Just my opinion.

Nah, hes not "my sheik". He does not use any title other than muslim. i just call him papa

Albaqir and tbaba1234 and others. Beautiful speech, isnt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zx2lKAmv8U

Sino, may God Almighty personally bless you with many wives, children, money, lots of concubines, beautiful maids, good health, houses, good job, good internet service, peace and harmony in your heart. Amin.

Do you know why I sent you these salawat? Because Allah used you to encountered an ignorant man to enable you get the correct pronunciation of Ruhaniya.

I quickly called the man i was narrating his story to confirm. He said yes, it's Ruhaniyah. He said but because of accent makes us (Yoruba) say it like 'Rawaniyah'. Please folks watch this video... very close to what i have been saying all along. It's good to be patient and learn. If not for sino, I may never be able to research for this. Sino, Allah used you for this believe that. Ruhaniyah are NOT Jinns. It means I was right all along.

"Many People Do Not Know About Ruhaniyah"

Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDMPHnM2TLg
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf-61xaqKOk

I have had practical experiences of Ruhaniyah and Sura Yasin for almost 20yrs. Now, thanks to sino, I am now going to read theoretically on them. I have used "Rawaniyah" many times to search the net for info on them to no avail. Now I got it. Very beautiful creature. Allahu Akbar

^saving the fish? meh. Hungry snakes dont save. They snake

tbaba1234:
There is no such classification in that link.

No, was referring to the man. I just posted the article for reading purposes.

Thanks again Sino, for correct pronunciation of ruhaniya. I was able to get article on it unlike before. Anyone care to read the link below. I do not believe they are Jinn. According to this man, they are next in rank to Malaika (Angels). They are pure or simply called white. Rank according to strength,

1. Malaika

2. Ruhaniya

3. Jinn

http://karma-rebirth.blogfa.com/post-14.aspx

I can not take the man with Ya Lateef's word for him. He doesnt know whats he's doing in Ya Lateef and how did he recognize it's Jinn?. But this man who's acquainted with it for almost 30yrs said it Ruhaniyah and next in rank to Malaika. They are in the middle according to him. Someone also said this in another thread. We can only understand this by the light of Quran. Quran says " All praise is due to Allah The Lord of the Worlds (and all that exist) is put in bracket. Why Allah did not mention their name "Ruhaniyah" as we know it is best known to Him. What is known to us is Allah created all kinds and types of creatures.....that we can see and cant see. For example, "Egbere" in Yorubaland exist but Quran does not mention Egbere. Should we say because of that there is nothing like Egbere? I dont know other name for them. Walahu Alam

And besides, there seems to be various a hadith condemning the use of Jinn while other ahadith only allow it if it's for good purposes and within short period like AlBaqir said in another post. And the link above seems to converge with my opinion a bit. Wallahu Alam.

But tbaba1234 simply dismiss them outright for whatever reason. There is nothing to deduce from that.

[quote author=tbaba1234 post=28515429]tbaba1234

The hadith is a very important part of Islamic law as it constitutes sayings of the prophet. We are told to follow the best of examples from the Quran.

And multiple deeds those people do is non-sunnah? Those dua are mostly found in the hadith.

There is nothing wrong in reciting the Quran as many times as you want. What is incorrect is ascribing a specific figure for some reward that is not evidenced in the Sunnah. Something that was not practised by the messenger or even his closest companions.

You should be criticizing those ahadith narrators and compilers not this man and those like him. They got most of these dua with counts from hadith. They dont care whether they are da'ef or fabricated. What they know is they are in Sahih hadith which means sound and good to them and it works. So whats the problem?

If you have the strength and will to recite a milion time, there is nothing wrong. However do not put a figure to it.

At least you agree they could do as much as they want. You worry so much about figure. Get off your mind from that, please. That seems scary to you or something?. Criticize narrators not Supplicants

Point : Do what you are capable of. Moderation in religion is very important

No one dispute this. And this man doesnt consider Yasin 1,111 overburden. I still see no reason for unnecessary criticisms

There are several simple duas taught by the prophet for different situations.

Even with several simple dua, say for instance, "Ya Rahman", you still have to do as many as you can. You just have problem with count.

There are Dua's contained in the Quran as well. These are simple prayers that can be implemented in your daily life.

You see, this whole thing is just in cycle. I still see no reason for condemnation. So far, you agreeing with as many Yasin recitation but just unconfortable with x rewards and count.

I can also talk about my own experiences by just following the routine practises.

There you go. Just go ahead and narrate it already instead of unnecessary criticism. This platform is for sharing.

It is best to continuously do small but regular dhikr that can be maintained than to exert yourself in something that you can not maintain.

He doesnt complain. He's almost 70 and he started continuously with small dhikr. So why he cant go overboard in 40 yrs?. He knows what he wanted. He went for it and got it. He got the nerve. And I didnt say i can proudly do Yasin 1,111 in a sit. You seem to have problem with that. It's me exerting him cus of what I experienced NOT him exerting himself. I am the one proud of him. Thats all.

In nutshell, You see, from everything you said up there, there is no clear wrongdoing except for your schism against my narration. You only seem to disagree with what you consider extreme in ibadah and at the end of the day, you agree with dikr. How many do dikr today?. Few, but we criticize those who excelled in doing dikr like this man. Same questioned posed at Bro. AbdulaRahaman Green, like what's your problem with Sufis?. I simply brushed aside his answer. I thought he would be specific with "shirk" they do. I dont understand this.

Neither this man nor others I am aware of forced it down the throat of anyone. Nor do they compelled or mandate it on others. You see, the story i am narrating and yourself, is like Khidr (as) and Musa (as). Because Moses could not be patient was the reason why prophet Muhammad (saw) was unable to narrate fantastic stories btw Khidr and Musa to us. Musa kept breaking in and asking questions despite warnings to be quiet until tales are over.

According to authentic (usually Sufis) interpretation of encounters btw Musa(as) and khidr(as), their understanding is that Allah is using Musa to pass message across to those people who would behave just like that. We do not believe Musa is deficient not to be patient and learn from khidr. We believe he was used by Allah for a purpose in that scenario. Like we have today, zionists(jews) think of themselves as elite of mankind and see non Jews as subhuman. But the people (like muslims) they consider subhuman actually know better. Same we have among muslims. Salafis see other muslims as stray from the path and they alone are correct. I hope you get this.

So I am not telling this tale anymore unless for rare reference(s). You gotta tolerate it and them deduce whatever you want later. I dont jump on anyone here. You can not learn like that brother.

Say for instance, there is client that needs such service (Yasin 1,111+others) and I introduce you to him to be part of the team of Alfas to recite the dua, you can not tell him not to put count on Yasin or Ya Lateef etc or start questioning him because you think you have right aqeeda. If you do that, you will be excused. He's the boss. This is not a burden on you. It's simply like a day labor and you are paid right there in your sit during prayer or shortly after. So whats burden in that?. You just jumped to conclusions without letting me finish. The dua is in group we all share it. You do as much as you can and get most likely same pay with those who do better than you.

[quote author=sino post=28500371]Interesting discuss here, just want to add my observations and thoughts.

I have come to understand that people would go to any length for power, money and fame, and our alfas are not left out.

Sure. But let's not pretend we dont need wealth top serve deen, personal needs etc. What I against is seeking it through illegal means and purely for worldy gain. But in order to acquire this, we can expect them to run to Babalawo to get this. The can invoke Allah all they want. It's non of anyone's business.

Recently, i was discussing with one of my ustaz about rawaniya, which he corrected to ruhaniyah meaning spirits, According to him, they are Jinn but they are Muslims. He made mention of the fact that he had encountered them before while reciting Ya Lateef (i cant remember the count, but i think it was in the thousands), he said they are the most beautiful creatures he had ever seen....

@bold, I have to disagree with that but for the sake of this thread, I will do a further reseach. Yes, thanks so much. I think they pronuced it in yoruba accent "Rawainiyah"

All was sounding interesting until he mentioned what he had to go through, he said while making the recitation, he would be naked in the masjid, and still he would feel extremely hot that even the fans in the masjid couldn't abate the heat. (I didn't ask further in respect to what additional thing he was reciting with Ya Lateef)

This is his problem. I dont know what he was up to. I cant independently affirm this.

My question is what was he really looking for? From what i gathered from our little discussion, i think it was power and money cos he hinted that he would have been stupendously rich if he had guidance on what next to do after meeting with the creature. To me, he might just have been hallucinating...

He sounds like unwise man

Some alfas use tricks (magic), some use jinns and the likes to convince and confuse. And in truth, some alfas are sincere and righteous, they stick to the Sunnah.

True to some. No comment

I believe if we understand that as Muslims, the allowance given to us in supererogatory forms of worship especially in zikr, nawafil and tilawatul Qur'an (in terms of count) that we choose to perform, cannot be used as a template for others (i.e mandatory on others), that we should do whatever capacity we can as long as we do not get tired and mumbling some mumbo jumbo for it is

Pay attention to bold again please, what's zikr? isnt invoking Allah's name, reciting Quran etc And these are not done in 5mins and that's. There is no reflection in that. It's gotta be consistent. So he chose Yasin as much as he wants. Is that opposite of zikr? And ofcourse, he does Tahajjud

Narrated by 'Aisha:

"Once the Prophet came while a woman was sitting with me. He said, "Who is she?" I replied, "She is so and so," and told him about her (excessive) praying. He said disapprovingly, "Do (good) deeds which is within your capacity (without being overtaxed) as Allah does not get tired (of giving rewards) but (surely) you will get tired and the best deed (act of Worship) in the sight of Allah is that which is done regularly."
Sahih Bukhari Vol 1, Book 2, No 41

Exactly, he does his Yasin regularly and he got "rewards". He doesnt complain nor does he bother others. The only time he 'bothers' others is when he has clients and they had to recite lots. But this is employment like. So they get paid. Whats the problem with that?

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded; and gain strength by worshipping in the mornings, the nights."
(See Fath-ul-Bari, Page 102, Vol 1). Sahih Bukhari Vol 1, Book 2, No 38

Another beautiful one. Unfortunately, he doesnt complain. This hadith says 'will not be able to continue in that way'. But this man in question continue like that till today and waxing strong. You may have to upgrade your understanding of "overburden". There are levels of Iman: Muslim, Mumin, Musin. You think Musin and Mumin would do what average muslims do in order to reach the status?. I doubt that.

That what is given to us by the Prophet (SAW) is far superior to whatever we can come up with,

Absolutely. Those people also accept this. But we say Quran sums things up. Do as much good deeds to get close to Him. He doesnt hurt anyone. Concern seems to be the counts which scares you brothers. I said before it's not important. You and tbaba1234 seem to have problem with counts when I or others say it. But there are bunch of ahadith in Sunni text that mention something like this, yet you brothers dont seem to have problem with that unless those who do not share your ideology quote them. I have said time and again that I dont worry myself over x rewards behind abc dua. Rewards are best left to Allah. They dont need to mysteriously tag those ahadith fabricated or weak. If that is the case, were the narrators of those ahadith high on shisha when they wrote those ahadith. The man himself gleaned some of those dua with counts from Sahih ahadith. So why are you brothers having problem with my tales?

Sa‘d b. Abi Waqqås relates that he, along with Allah’s Messenger, peace be upon him, visited a woman who had infront of her some date stones or pebbles on which she was counting the glorification of Allah. So he said to her: “Shall I not inform you of something that would be easier or be better for you than this? Say: Glory be to Allah (Sub ̇håna’Llåh) as many times as what He created in the heavens. Glory be to Allah as many times as what He has created on earth. Glory be to Allah as many times as what He created between them. Glory be to Allah as many times as what He is creating. Then Allah is greater (Allåhu akbar) a like number of times; then Praise be to Allah (al ̇amduli’Llåh) a similar number of times; then There is no deity worthy of worship sav Allah (lå ilåha illa’Llåh) a like number of times; then There is no might nor power except Allah (lå ̇hawla wa lå quwwata illa bi’Llåh) a like number of times.”
Abu Dåwud, no.1500; al-Tirmidhi, no.3803, who said it is H ̇asan gharib. Al-Håkim deemed it Saheeh in al-Mustadrak, 1: 547, and al-Dhahabi concurred

Honestly, this is still saying the same thing as former...

Safiyyah relates: Allah’s Messenger, peace be upon him, visited me whilst I had in front of me four thousand date stones upon which I was counting glorifications. He said: “Do you count glorifications on these? Shall I not teach you what surpasses this?” I replied: Teach me. He said: “Say, sub ̇åna’Llåh ‘adada khalqihi - Glory be to Allah as many times as what He has created.”
Al-Tirmidhi, no.3789, who declared it gharib. Al-Håkim, 1:548, graded it as Sahih, and al-Dhahabi was of the same view. Ibn Hajr al-‘Asqalåni though, graded the Hadith Hasan in Natå’ij al-Afkår, 1:79.

As many times as what He has created. Humm, what Allah created are far greater in number than 4000 mentioned in this hadith. So Safiyyah is going to be saying "sub ̇åna’Llåh ‘adada khalqihi" forever. Brothers dont get it.

And the fact that our acts of worship is accepted only if we have sincerity (al-Ikhlas) and following the Prophet (SAW) (al-mutaaba’ah), then we wouldn't be worrying ourselves with Ya seen 1,111 or Ya Lateef 70 million!

You definitely cant compare average muslims to Mumin and Musin. The later are far more sincere and devoted. That much counts of Yasin and Ya Lateef, are Allah's names. He is Just and would never let your deeds in vain. I smell laziness

And in regards to al-mutaaba'ah, Sheikh Uthaymeen stated,

(Six Conditions of Ibaadah By Shaykh Muhammad bin Saalih al-`Uthaymeen)

I believe what is important is building the right aqeedah, having faith such that the sahabas had which made them cure a snake bite with Al-fatha. A lot of people flee from what is recommended, but are looking for shortcuts, they wouldn't mind sitting for several days reciting 70 million Ya Lateef, cos they've been told it would give them this and that, but they cannot stand in the middle of the night for tahajjud till their legs become swollen like the prophet (SAW) seeking only the pleasure of Allah (SWT).

You should be criticizing those ahadith written by narrators. This man I am talking about didnt compile the ahadith. Honestly, as long as they bother no one, I dont see whats wrong with that. So far, this is opinion. I am sure there would be scholars in his time would have contrary opinion.

And on tawwakul,;

Narrated from Umar ibn Al-Khattab, the Prophet (SAW) said:

"If only you relied on Allah a true reliance, He would provide sustenance for you just as He does the birds: They fly out in the morning empty and return in the afternoon with full stomachs."
Ahmad, An-Nasaa’I, Ibn Majah, Al-Hakim and At-Tirmidhi said: "Hassan sahih"

Is there anyone doing the @bold nowadays?. They can only yell about it on internet but when they are confronted with calamities in real life, they visit Babalawo or Alfas fast fast. Yet still call themselves AlhuSunnah Wajamah. I dont trust no one. I have seen a lot regarding this.

while studying this hadith, my Sheikh stated that the reason the Prophet (SAW) used the instance of a bird is that, the bird never stays in its nest all day, it moves about looking for what to eat, it flies from one sport to another, never resting in a particular place for long and such should be the case of a man who understands reliance on Allah (SWT).

This one is interesting. If i understand correctly, you most likely referring to my earlier post that the man doesnt work outside his home right?. Good. I am sure you dont have problem with Oyinbo people who work from home. You ever heard of work from home or WorkAtHome business in the West. If you dont have problem with that you shouldnt with this man either. He works from home. Thats the basic understand of it. Besides, not just work from home but business owner. You ever heard of small business or self employed men and women in the West?. People pray to be self employed than working 9-5 for others and making others rich. Please let's stop this solitary quotation to degrade fellow muslims while having no problem with White folks working from home. This doenst make sense to me. This statement is for lazy men and women, after graduating from college, refuse to find job but sit home. So this criticism doesnt fit this man. And pls dont even think for a second that Ruhaniyah is the one bringing him money. Thats haram.

And Allah (SWT) gives karamah to whomsoever he wills, your surest way to spirituality is by following the Sunnah!

And Allah (SWT) knows best.

And he got it. He has his Karamah something many dont. You think karama comes easy? No No No. Strive for it brother strive for it. Now, we see karamah being displayed here and we criticized it yet we so much praise past Ulama with great knowledge, elevated with karama, excelled in modern sciences etc. Please tell me in our modern time (today) those who follow simple analysis you stated above and yet have attained clear felicity, unbelievable high status etc like this one?. Please let me know cus I havent seen one other than from among those who are labeled sufis. Definitely not fellas yelling about shirk bid'ah shirk bid'ah. I hope you do not find anything offensive in my replies. But at this time, I would have to zip it cus with criticism, there is no way to learn anything. I am not here to teach rather was only narrating. To attack it with criticism is just very gross.

lanrexlan:
Yes, the bride.Firstly her head isn't covered.
Secondly, the so called wedding damn is transparent.
May Allah help us

ok nau, i see clearly on my pc. This is nonsense. Dont they see it. I even hate that thing called "White Wedding". It's like imitation of nassarah. Maybe enu awon alfa yen ti je dodo because of that, enu won ko le so ododo. Again, this is picture...we dont know if they might advised her but have no choice but to let the plan go ahead. Either way, sad seeing this pix

^ you mean bride right?. can't see it properly cus im mobile

^I really don't know about all these one leg up, naked( body) dua. That's their problem

Well, we should start thinking of "eventing" couscous in place of Rice. In the pictures below are...

1. Couscous with vegetables

2. Couscous with chicken

How do you like these?.

AlBaqir:
You mean that corrupt Yoruba language we speak today is normal/protestant Let's go back to our root and learn the Ijinle Yoruba, and that's Oyo dialect. There's power and secrets in every language. The moment the real dialect is corrupted or abandoned, that power and secrets vanished.
I don't think there's a 'successful nation' today that abandoned or corrupted their mother-tongue.

Those people who speak Oyo dialect or other dialects are now seen as uneducated, barbaric, locals etc. That's just sad. The same we now have emerging in Islam. "protestant Islam" which is devoiding us of spiritual guidance.

Lol, i understand it but i speak "protestant Yoruba" like you probably do. I dont think you speak Oyo dialect, do you?

lanrexlan:
Hmmmmmmm, nice one.But do you live there? Cos your written Yoruba doesn't seem to be Ijebu, you write fluently in 'normal Yoruba' .

lanrexlan:
Brother Empiree has really seen many things, you've got a lot of different experiences through the sphere of life I love that .Please, where are you from?

I am Ijebu man...Ijebu-ode and the man himself. Was not born there though.