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kazlaw2000:
That Ruhaniyas are nothing but Muslim Jinns, no evidence was presented to back that theory (just a theory at this point). Infact evidence was brought from the Quraan to show that it was probably Ruhaniya that visited Maryam(as) in her seclusion since the entity was not mentioned to be an angel but instead Ruhanna (see the similarity with Ruhaniyya). The question is why are u 100 percent sure Ruhaniyyas are Muslim Jinns?

You de mind them. . They have no clue

^ Quiet frankly you dont get it. Angels are invisible. So are Ruhaniyah. The day a man sees Angels is his last day on this planet. We cant see Ruhaniyah either. Their presence can only be felt at some point. You can hold your view. It's okay. But kindly respond to Albaqir analysis up there.

You seem to also think it was frequent visits. Everything i narrated up there (summed up) is over 20 yrs period. Can you count number of visits in my narrative?. I think you need to be more open than just reading. Knowledge is broad. Although it's not a must to go beyond fundamental layer. Clearly Ruh are distinct from Angels.

By making staunch statement that Ruhaniyah must be Jinn, you have no evidence of that brother because you simply do not believe other beings beyond Angels and Jinns. Sorry, I believe more are created but not everyone knows. Even Yasir Qadri seems to figure that out. What you need is to study practically. This are not taught in modern institutions. Reading this and that is not always the way to go. Thats narrow path. I am not object to theory. I do theory too.

As for the man being misled?. Since you dont know him, this claim is easy for you just because you reading text. His Iman is waxing strong. You just have no idea brother. Since you declared ahadith about benefits of Yasin daef or fabricated, I know you have no clue. Why do you want me to hold your view?. There is a lot beyond text. We do not reject text. We use it as guide.

[quote author=Sissie post=29012846]@empire your reply does not in any way reply my post.

1. I did not talk about Yasin

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2. I did not say if i believe Ruhaniya exist or not

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3. I was replying a specific post that jinns give conditions and those that dont are ruhaniyah

Pls can i have reference where i made above statement?. I know and everyone here also knows that Jinn give conditions(usually haram) like sino's Alfa to go na/k/ed etc. Can you give reference where i said those 'Jinns" that do not give condition are ruhaniyah, pls?

4. I was asking why did the ruhaniyah waste meat and stop the police man when he is not the guilty one?, as that seems to be evidences to you, so dont you think it contradicts the piety you attached to those two specfic post?

You dont understand this at all. Let me explain this the best i can. First, i think you should read my last post (reply) to Hkana. Sacrifice is made to Allah alone. You made it sounds like Ruhaniyah gave that order. Meat are not wasted. If the prayer is done for client, all Alfas, the man and his family and me and external people (miskin) eat from this meat. A big cow is not thrown into garbage. He must have learned about sacrificing animal from his Sheik ( I guess) due to strength of the Sura. Please refer to my last post. Thanks. Sacrifice here is simply like those Ileya(eld) with slight difference. Client and his family do not eat from it. Ruhaniyah does not eat ram or cow. Haba sister.

As for police issue. Yes, we are guilty because his son hit police from behind. Thats external logic. Internal logic is believe it or not, since Ruhaniyah was borne out of his dhikr, his duty was to teach and protect him. Simple. I am just trying to explain this better. May not be the best. But I understand it quiet right.

Let me give you internal logic. Say for instance Obama signs a bill banning Gay practices. Gay people take to the street of Washington to protest the ban. When Obama steps out to address them, protesters quickly rush toward him. Clearly, he may be hurt. But do you think for a second that SS would allow protesters to touch him even if obama was guilty?. Absolutely not. This is the best way i can describe the situation. I hope you get it.

^ Inshallah ta'ala. I generally make dua for muslims (dead or alive) in my daily dua.

[quote author=Hkana post=28984281]Lovely debate so far.... I particularly love the "yasin" "ruhaniyah" perspective.

Empiree, what I don't get is, concerning yasin. You mentioned in one page that someone shouldn't recite plenty of it except s/he has some spare change. As in, the recitations should be followed by charity and/or slaughter, right? (Though, I'm not quoting you word for word)
My concern is "why those conditions?"

Okay now. I wouldn't want you to take my response too personal as some opposing views have taken drastic steps against it without fully understanding what the whole thing truly entailed.

I was around the man for 20yrs. We do the prayers for clients. The man also do it for himself. I:E Sura Yasin, compilation of Dua titled 'Jabbar', and Khutba of sura Yasin. When we had discussion last Saturday, i clearly understood why ram, cow are sacrificed.

Note, sacrifice is only for Allah not something else as Sissie tried to put earlier in this post.
Sacrifice is done to 'subdue' power of Yasin. This is why i can not agree with those who say Ahadith of Yasin are daef or fabricated. Yasin is the word of Allah. The end of it is statement of Allah "Kun fayakun". There is a lot in the phrase. Just by reading text is not enough to feel what it is. Tafsir may give us clue. Either way, making it constant dua is where the real deal is.

How did the man come about sacrificing animal?. There may or may not be direct reference in the Hadith to back this up. Common sense could have suggested it. He told me sacrificing animal, sheep or cow is tantamount to 'ero' i:e remedy (when Yasin starts acting up). This means too much of it will bring everything out of it. I wish i can explain this better. Let me try. It means, when Yasin is fully in effect, it destroys evil forces in the vicinity within a blink while at the same time 'looking' for 'living being' to hold on to. Thats why the man always keeps livestock (chickens) in his compounds just in case.

I witnessed it myself in the late 80s after he finished the dua. He had not buy ram. Suddenly his daughter felt sick with high fever. He knew the remedy. It was early in the morning this happened. He quickly gathered funds and slaughtered sheep. I honestly dont care how folks here feel about this narration. This is the word of Allah. Even Allah said in the Quran that if He was to send down Quran on a mountain it would have turned asunder (sura 59:21). I do not know how he learned the remedy.

He gave me another instance, one of his workers who came to learn from him, very greedy man. I know the him very well. He would recite Yasin but refused to take care of its remedy. Yasin gripped his daughter. The man warned him outstart. The lady passed away of high fever. This is not to be misunderstood that Yasin is bad.

Benefits we noticed after this dua is tranquility, security (in the entire 80s and part of 90s, there were Jinns killing and hurting folks, there were robberies and seldom killings in the town->[size=5pt]usually linked to fetches[/size]<-. Other creatures too like 'emere' and "Iwin" used to bother the hood). They never came to us.

Another benefits noticed was wealth, brotherhood in the house. I lived in the same house with them for 20yrs. Sura Yasin provided us security from forces of unseen, witches. There used to be lots of witches in the town flying over everywhere. Anytime they flew over our house, they dropped. The man would pick some of them, caged and released them shortly. Sometimes, he lightly beat them and released them. The following day, some women came by saying, "Alhaji, you beat the hell out of us last night". We all laughed. they dont mess with us at all. He warned them that anytime they heading for their meetings, should not cross over his house. Or else, they face same predicament.

Secondly, where is the dua (Jabbaar)? I think I need it.

Jabbar!. Mashallah. Very powerful one. This one is to glorify Allah. He told me last Saturday that Jabbar is "oriki olohun". It's about 65 pages. He uses it for himself and clients to compel Allah to do this and that for him. (Astagfurllah..i believe you should understand what i mean by compelling God). He's bold to tell Allah 'I want this and that and he gets it. I love Jabbar, The Compeller.

You know what I meant by "oriki" right?. It's pedigree. How do you feel when your grandma glorifies you?. Are you familiar with granny uttering pedigree over her son or grand children?. Whenever my granny uttered my pedigree, ori mi ma nwu i:e I became very flamboyant. Same thing happens after he's done with Jabbar (prayer for himself), he comes outside saying "Ya Jabbar". His compound start mumbling.

This is what some folks here dont understand. Talking about it's Jinn. I know what i am talking about. Very successful man. He has no secondary educated. His level of education is primary 6. His classmates who are professors in UniIlorin, US based etc are struggling hard to put food on their table. Bottom line is if you hold on to Him firmly, by fulfilling requirements of Ihsan (tassawuf), you will get nothing but Malaika and or His Ruh descending (gri gri gri gri gri) upon you. Sura 97:4. It's now i can understand why he always tells us not to curse in his house.

Truth be told though, he does suffer high and low sometimes. That's very understandable.

But people dont want to make dua anymore. Just reading theoretically or criticizing when other does and succeed.

^This is very handsome Albqir. In that ayah above, Allah did not mention Malaika. Mashallah! Albaqir got us handsome research. Shukran.

What i expected of tbaba1234, Sissie, maclatunji and other opposing view is we should all do research rather simply brushing aside that it doesnt exist historically. No wonder the man said they dont understand.

When we used to call it "Rawaniya", that sounds like Yoruba accent and corrupted pronunciation of "Ruhaniyah". And Ruhaniyah seems to be corrupted pronunciation of RUHANAH mentioned in the Quran. Thanks to Sino, his Alfa and Albaqir. Research goes on.....

Truly there's no "textual evidence" for the word "Ruhaniyah" known to me, and like I said ^ the description, and purpose is not far-fetched according to Qur'anic and hadith text. However, the only match-word is mentioned in the holy Qur'an.

"And mention Maryam in the Book when she drew aside from her family to an eastern place."

So she took a veil (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her RUHANAH (Our spirit, and there appeared to her a well-made man." ~sura Maryam:16 - 17

In the next verse, the identity of the "Ruhanah" was known to be:
"He said: I am only a messenger of your Lord..." verse 19

Note: Qur'an never use the word "Angel" and there's no suggestion it was an Angel, according to Qur'an. Some translators used "Angel".

Other place in the Qur'an, only the word "Our messenger (Rasulunah)" was used, (e.g sent to Ibrahim, to give glad tiding of a son at his old age: sura Hud: 69 - 73).

Why did the word "Ruhanah" was used in the case of Maryam?

Observe maryam (as) secluded herself. Doing what? According to Qur'an, her whole life is entirely devoted in worship for her Lord. So definitely she was into a form of adhkar while in seclusion.

While some usually interpret "Ruh or Ruh Qudus" as Angel Jubril (as), there's no evidence in the Qur'an or ahadith known to me. What Qur'an distinguish is:

"To Him ascend the angels and the Ruh'..." ~sura al-Maarij: 4

"The angels and Ruh' descend in it by the permission of their Lord..." ~sura al-Qadr

Jubril (as) was mentioned by name "Jubril" in the Qur'an and the fact that he is among the angels so he cannot be "Ruh' or Ruhul Qudus".

Then there are many place in the holy Qur'an where e.g Jesus (as) was strengthened by the "Ruh'ul Qudus" (sura al-baqarah:87, believers strengthened by the "Ruh" - sura Mujadilah: 22; "Ruh' is breathe into man to make him living - sura al-Hijr:29 etc.

Then Qur'an summarized beautifully:
"And they ask you about the Ruh'. Say: The Ruh' is one of the commands of my Lord, and you are not given aught of knowledge but a little."

First, it is obvious Jubril is not the "Ruh" as many used to interpret.

Second, "Ruh'" is a 'command' from Allah (to His 'Abd (servant)). Which 'Abd? Definitely sincere and righteous 'Abd.

Third, there are of different form or types of "Ruh': *"Ruhu'l Qudus, Ruhanah...etc" depending on your rank with Allah. Most great Prophets (peace be on them all) are being strengthened by "Ruh'ul Qudus".

NB: The word "Ruhanah" translated to "Our Spirit" is best explained as "Spirit more Beloved or Dearer to Allah".

Those (I mean sincere and pious servants of God) who experience a particular form of "Ruh'", perhaps brought about the word "Ruh'aniyah". Allah knows best. But absolutely the "word" do not have a textual evidence but again and again the reality and spiritual experience of it can never be discarded.

When i asked someone on YouTube who also believe in the existence of "Ruhaniyah" to give me some textual reference(s), he qouted me this..

And they ask you about the Ruh'. Say: The Ruh' is one of the commands of my Lord, and you are not given aught of knowledge but a little.

And when i said mainstream muslims dont seem to believe in such a thing. That they see it haram or bid'ah. He said "mainstream is not always the way to go. They do or say things that befit 'their' understanding". He further said it's not for everyone. Allah chose whom he gives. <- this statement is in the Quran. We should research research research rather than staunch condemnation. Thats how to acquire knowledge. And of course, one must be careful threading that part.

Here is another reference to Ruh different from Angels.......Sura 97:4 differentiates Angels from Ruh.

The angels and the Spirit descend therein by permission of their Lord for every matter

Sissie:
Its a wrong notion to believe jinns give conditions and the ones that dont are "ruhaniyah" this is wrong.

We have muslim jinns, a jinn can like you and decide to help you, not out of being pious.
I should know i have spoken with jinn before, and its not due to reciting yasin, and i have heard of people who do.

If he was pious why did the ruhaniyah help him to do the wrong thing by holding his legs, afterall he was the guilty one should he not take responsibility. He was supposee to buy cow but bought ram and the ram died, so its sign?

Whats that now, he could have bought a sick ram and it was coincidence he died next day.

If the ruhaniyah is pious why would he kill the ram and waste meat, why not accept it, afterall man is prone to doing the wrong things? Whats the special attachment to cow for sadaqa, will pour man care if he is eating cow meat or ram meat?

Sounds like boka things to me.

You appear to get everything wrong the way you portrayed here. You see, this is why those people dont talk about things like this. It's personal to them. And at this point, I'd rather mute and you people can say your views. But clearly you got it wrong. Those who seem to share my view have given much thought here.

Just reading and all that is just the beginning. Theoretical approach, while i dont condemn it, it narrows our scope. I do theory too. And yes, of course, Yasin is not the only way to go. You guys keep misunderstanding the whole thing. Imagine if i didnt say importance of Yasin, we would believe the ahadith that spoke about it are Daef or fabricated as tbaba123 once said.

In as much you have not recognized or understood importance of Yasin, i dont think i have much to say to convince you about Ruh-aniyah. Importance of Sura Yasin i mentioned in previous page alone discredits argument put up against me. Importance of Yasin was taken from hadith yet tbaba said it's Daef or fabricated. So if i found hadith that mentioned Ruhaniyah by name, I wouldn't expect you to compliment is as Sahih either. Unless and until you recognize that, I wont go further from here. Besides, anything that brings about division among us here, I'd stay out for that sake.

To hold the fact that God only created Malaika, Jinn and Mankind and thats it?. I wont agree with that for a second. Remember though, going beyond fundamental layer is not a must. But those who do and choose to explain what they say (sincerely), it doesnt matter how much theory you read, you will have no clue. Believe that. Quran and Hadith call it Ihsan. Some folks centuries ago invented another word for it "tassawuf" so as to label people something.

I say, wouldn't it be kind of you to just do what they do. Lock yourself up in a room for days and keep reciting Lailaha illah llahu and then come here and tell me it's Jinn.

If we didnt have '" rigid people" with "medieval times" who chose to safe and preach based on evidence alone, but "modern world" so many thngs would have been mixed up.

No, what they meant by rigidity is you do not accept flexible interpretation (as things evolve). Those who do Ihsan(tassawuf) quote from Quran and hadith what they experience. Enlightening us what we might perhaps understood differently. Wallahu Allam

lanrexlan, you see, not that i am really interested in "consulting spirit" as maclatunji wants to portray. First all, i was telling a story. Second, mainstream ideology, which seems intolerant towards others is what i am basically trying to remove. They bore not only me but other muslims. It's like mechanical all the time.

If a student asks mainstream muslim scholar about xyz (something not known publicly), Sheik says "we did not have record of prophet or early generation mentioned this". Therefore, it must be haram or bid'ah when in fact the subject is real.

My point is mainstream is not always the way to go. They are just basic and that's it. And they are so rigid. The problem with that is they will not be able to understand modern world using their madhhab. Whats the point of quoting medieval ulama when Quran is still with us warning us about evolving predicament. Quran sits in judgement over everything else. I was once like that (rigid mentality) for 4 yrs. I made U-turn in 2011. Again, I quote the word of great Sheik Adam Abdullah Al-ilory

And I am a salafi as long as salafiyya refers to holding to the Sacred Law with practices based on what is flexible and evolving rather than that which is rigid and narrow.

kazlaw2000:
@tbaba. By Allaah, i have also gone around, lately to ask alfas about these Ruhaniyyah and they affirmed what @Empiree has been saying. These are real life experiences. I was told every aayah of the holy Quraan, every adhkaar has a khaadim that is in charge of it. If you cling onto it tenaciously by oft chanting it, you will encounter the khaadim

.Mashallah!, the man i was talking about said same @bold last Saturday. He said each Surah has Ruhaniyah that emanates from it. It is up to them (Ruhaniyah) if they want to talk to you. I guess that depends on effort put into it. They would say to you "Salam Alaikum abdullah".

The man even said Ruhaniyah will praise you beyond salams then ask what you want from your Rub(Allah). At some point, when you get serious with dua, you hear your doors opening and closing. Thats them sending salawat on you. I described to tbaba1234 earlier in this post. Looks like he doesnt get it. It's on p.5

Hey Tbaba1234, when you do sit and reflect on the dua Yasin and reach certain levels in your recitation, if you begin to hear gri gri gri gri i:e walks, know that "won ti de" (they are here). Awon wo ni(Who are they)? . Awon malaika ni ati awon rawaniya. Ki ni won nfe(what do they want)? won ti n gbe bo (they bringing it). Kini won n gbe bo(what is it) salawaat ni (blessings). Allahu Akbar.

I experienced this 2 yrs in a row. Then it stopped but only to start again from another percepective between late 2009 and early 2011. Wallah every morning around fajr, I always hear knocks on my door. I am the only one in the apartment and have 2 doors. 1st door leads to the outside the street, 2nd door leads to another section in my apartment but not directly to the street.

It's this 2nd door I used to hear a knocks 3 times every fajr waking me up. The first time it happened. I asked who is it? I never got reply. I opened the door but no presence until i got used to it. It used to wake me up exactky fajr on the dot. But I wasnt attaching any significance to it until I asked the man one day. He asked if i make dua a lot?. I said yes. He laughed. They are ruhaniyah waking you up for fajr. He said it's up to them if they want to talk to me. Then he said maybe I am about to have a company like he does. I was freaked out. I stopped and I began to lack in dua.

But the knocks continued like that for another 6 months before it stopped. I havent been experiencing it since 2011. I think it just depends. Some may not feel physical presence of unseen. Other may feel tranquility and sakina within self. God is Greatest. Allah Akbar

^not confused tbaba. it doesn't appear you get it. But instead of back n fourth brouhaha, you should go for practical approach. Start doing "tassawuf". It's there God unveil things.

I think the reason you cling on Jinn is because of preconceived notion...like essay written by ibn Taymmiya(r). Jinns are not in that quarter(duas). Jinn work with incantation called 'ofo' in Yoruba not dua. Dua (ism-llah) doesn't bring evil forces. That's another misconception is you need. Individual has different approach of explaining it.

But if you insist they are Jinn, at least muslim ones , then you may need to check your aqeeda. Allah says that where Qur'an or God's name is being mentioned, Angels descend is that arena. There is no mentioned of Jinn in that verse. Qur'an also used 'RUH' variably to describe unseen forces. To say these different folks are lying is laughable. These men are far practical than you. If i were you i would do independent unbiased research on Ruhaniyah.

I honestly don't want to argue over this as admonished. Even "tranquility" you experience is a being. I don't have problem understanding this subject at all. "Egbere" for instance , exist in yoruba land but Qur'an doesn't mention them.

Do you even know that if you place Quran on your lap while reciting Quran, within 30 mins, your legs get weak gradually. Is that Jinn too?. Just try this simple one. Place Quran (arabic) on your feet every time you read Quran and return here to tell us what or how you feel. Research continues......

^Na. Lol. You don't get it at all. The fact that you dont speak or understand Yoruba, you cant possibly come to this conclusions. Hope Sino watches these two clips. None of the videos mentioned Jinn at all. You guessed.

You dont understand this. Let's wait for others who might watched these videos to comment. Sino's Alfa didn't even talk to "Jinn". Did you read where he said that?. His Alfa experience seems naive the way he described it. So his Alfa's claim can not be substantiated because that was his first encounter and they didnt speak. Besides, i dont know exactly what his Alfa did.

As far as I am concern, I am always of the view that they are next to Angels in rank. The man said they are next to Angels. In this videos, descriptions given by these two Sheiks describe those beings 'Angelic'. "lower Angel" is the best way i could translate the way the last 2 videos describe them and he said we called them Ruhaniyah. Please revisit p. 10. The Sheik in the video said Ruhaniyah are like "Angelic spirit". He said there are 2 types of Angels, "Heavy" and "light". By heavy, he meant Angels like those sent to prophets which AlBaqir described in last post as Ruh Qudus...greater than 'ruhaniya'. That we can not see them nor feel them. He said those light ones are the ones we may feel their presence. He said we call them Ruhaniyah. I chose to translate it to mean "lower Angels". That may not be proper translation. Unless you understand Yoruba you cant understand what the man said. They quote directly from Quran and no Jinn mentioned there.

Wait for AlBaqir and others to comment and let's see. Jinn?, nope. You dont understand yet. As for reference from historical precedent, this is personal experience. Sahaba's experience are personal to them. If I didnt talk about Ruhaniyah, you may never know about it. Folks usually dont talk about personal experience. Only people around them do. This is very simple tbaba. Jinn dwell around incantation not dua. tbaba1234, I thought you live in lagos and you havent learn to speak yoruba?

Does This Sounds Familiar To What I Have Been Saying? I:E Theory And Practical. Very Important To Do Both Together While Growing Up. Reading Alone Does Not Help. You Are Left In The Dark Just By Reading

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf6rmgY7WSc

Another slight (clear) reference of Ruhaniyah in this video. I love this sheik. He knows how to explain stuff. It's getting clearer here follows. I hope tbaba1234 is getting it gradually.. I dont know this sheik in person. Never met him. Just listen to his lectures online. Yet, he arrived at same conclusion as mine. I also posted a video about Ruhaniyah on page 10. Again, i dont know that sheik either but he arrived at my conclusions as well. Are we all lying?.

The Sheik on Page 10 described Ruhaniyah as "Angelic spirit". Sheik Daud describes Ruhaniyah as "lower rank Angels". The man I have been talking about describes them as 2nd rank i:e next to Malaika (Angels). This means Ruhaniyah are between Angels and Jinn. Indeed, Sufis (as we know them i:e authentic Sufis) are true Ulama. Our opposing brothers just need to understand. Thats all. Watch the clip below, please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYYCDgea6z4
It takes years to encounter them personally. It depends on effort you put into dhikr. I almost encountered one personally but i lacked. I may tell my experience later. This is something practical not just reading books theoretically. Sheik Daud is Ilorin based. The man i have been talking about lives in Ijebu. The Sheik on page 10 lives in Canada and I live here. We all arrived at same (fill in the gap).

Note, which book are they using in this clip?. Isnt same Quran opposing view (also) use. Can you see how Sufis penetrate Quran. Allahu Akbar

usermane:
I think maainstream Islamic theology suck at times in interpreting Verses. As with Qur'an 5:38, clear metaphors in several cases ignored, while bizzare literal interpretation are chosen.

mainstream interpretation aside, is the verse metaphorical if applied to politicians for looting?

Haq

^Quiet frankly, EU self don tired of Israehell.
http://www.tv360nigeria.com/eu-court-takes-hamas-off-terrorist-organisations-blacklist/

Terrorist armies can't exist without state sponsorship - terror economist

In many ways terrorism works just like a business, and a costly one - the organization needs arms, supplies, and each recruit needs to be fed and equipped; it all costs money. But where do terrorists get their money? How are the atrocities financed? Is jihad even possible when you have no-one to back it with a hefty sum? And can a terror group become independent?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snrDSQrgleY

UAE? do you even take them serious. Watch this xmas, they will erect the biggest and largest xmas tree in their Burj kilafah.

At 43-44min , he seems to describe Ruhaniyah. But it's better to listen from the beginning. Again, close to what i have been saying. They are close to Malaika (Angels). He said what i was told that Ruhaniyun (Ruhaniya) are borne out of dhikr. wallahu Allam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dauxhx7hA8o

Whether they use haram substance or not, we should be careful as the world turns dark. Foods are being corrupted worldwide. Including Shopritre. Food around the world especially Can food and diary are genetically modified.

The consequences are dare. Dont you notice strange things happening in Nigeria that never happened before(homosexual)?. They imported homo through junk (modified) food. Homosexual is link with food and environment. To be on safe side, you better develop a policy of cooking organic food we used to eat. They are healthy and sahih. Return to farm and process your own food. Stop eating processed food and junks.

Crazy Saudi Youths....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MicxXvd4xWo

Trust me, if they did this on Long Island Expressway (LIE) in New York, they would be arrested. Humm, freedom means different things.

And I am a salafi as long as salafiyya refers to holding to the Sacred Law with practices based on what is flexible and evolving rather than that which is rigid and narrow.

~ Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory

You have to understand that those people who are described by Allah in this category https://www.nairaland.com/2040783/practise-ihsan-islam, few they may be, whatever form of aid, physical or spiritual they get from Azal wajal, they do not boost of it. It's because they dont talk about it is the reason this story sounds weird or people dont understand them. They are usually quiet. Thats common sense. It's personal to them like Sheik Adam rightly said.

Some among them could be public figure/preacher and speak about it briefly...like Sheik Adam Al-ilory(RTA). Some are just dude doing their own thing, et al. It's only people around them that usually talk about them like I do. Unfortunately, they can not hide it too long because their karamah could activate in the middle of the road etc where people clearly see what's going on. Above for instance. Thereby, commanding respect or being known.

Simply put, it depends on situation.

What Allah says in Sura 51:56 is not restricted to just these two Beings. Even trees worship Allah but Quran mentions two figures only. Why didnt He mention Malaika in the same Ayah. Malaika worship Allah too. This ayah sums it all right there. But to interpret the verse with understanding to mean Jinnkind and Mankind are the only creations referring is literal interpretation.

Quran speaks literally and figuratively as well. I never in my life interpreted (with understanding) that the verse is referring to ONLY Jinnkind and Mankind. I have always thought about referring to other Beings and non living things as well, even animals and water worship Allah. Prophet Muhammad (Sallalahu Alaiy walla aliy wasalam) was sent to them as well. Modern Muslims interpretation is pretty much restricted to visual text. This ridicules Quran a lot. There is a price to pay when we do that. Wallahu ta'la Allam

Mashallah!. well compiled. Jazakallahu khyran

^ i don't know him

AlBaqir:
Those suwars you mentioned above are more than enough and authentic for protection against any form of evil.

If you are a mu'min, quran will suffice as cure and mercy. That is Allah promise.

wallah, haq.

Jamo90:
If I may ask, do you mean that paying some alfa to make dua for you( for ex. The Yasin prayer, jabbar and killing of cow) can make a client experience what the ruhaniyyah man experienced

no. im just talking about praying for someone who may have issues

Ha ha... Sheik Adam (rta) makes me laugh in this clip...funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7d56O_Zyrc

kazlaw2000:
Sure. Sure. Pls whats ur homepage? Never knew you blog.

Was referring to NL profile when you click on my username.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yn2uyQJ1jc

Since I do not know the boy personally, i cant really comment. I only comment on what i understood. For reference purposes, is the boy Nigerian or are you talking about a 5 yr old Tanzania that made headlines around the world some yrs back?.

Let me assume it is true and authentic. The fact is ignorant folks take advantage of these kind of things by relying on it rather than God. Thats why some muslims are not comfortable talking about it. They see it as emulating nassarah. That aside, fact is Quran speaks about Signs....that God's Signs will continue to manisfest till end time. How He does it it what we need to look out for while at the same time, be steadfast on faith.

People should be able to sit and make dua or pay real Alfa to do it for them. So I really can not comment on this individual because i dont know him.

With regard to broom. Although i do not know his situation but it's common knowledge that broom one uses to broom interior of a house should not be used to broom outside. You should have two different ones. One for inside. One for outside. Wallahu Allam

#Alagemo, I will leave that for another day now. I can vitualize the event right now but cant recollect the whole thing at the moment. But there was some kind of commotion that day. Whats your question?. Remember though, when folks like him do what they do, say what they say doesnt mean they play God. Thats misunderstanding