European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:52pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
In the whole team, Fred was top 5 in average passes and successful passes. If we remove the defenders, he's easily top 2. Key pass he's top 4. Fouled, aside the attackers, he's top 2. Bruno, Rashford, Martial all have more bad touches than Fred. Surprisingly all the said top performers are more dispossessed than Fred per game according to whoscored. I'll just stop here |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:40pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
afrodoc2: 2 things can be true. He had a lot of great defensive performances but he is a liability going forward. And a full back who is a liability going forward especially in this day and age is a problem for a top team that will face lots of bus parking teams.
AWB because of his defensive 1v1 mastery would always get votes for his defensive performances HOWEVER a player can perform well individually but not be the best option for the team.
At the time Evra replaced Heinze, he was still probably not as good as Heinze defensively but SAF knew we needed an overlapping full back like Evra rather than a CB masquerading as a full back.
I have always lauded AWB for his defensive abilities but even in games where he shines and locks up his opposing wingers like happened with Sterling you see hints of the problems to come.
If he continues playing well defensively and struggling offensively he won't last in a top team. That is sure. So we'll say though he was one of the top 4 performers, his performance prevented some of the others from outperforming him? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:37pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
afrodoc2: So his whoscored rating is low.
Also he scored no goal and made no assist.
And we already proved that he is the most dribbled player in the team.
What exactly is he so good at that he should be rated higher than his team mates who are specialists at scoring goals (Martial, Rashford), creating goals (Bruno), and stopping goals (AWB).
How is running around the pitch like an Ikwerre masquerade superior to scoring and creating goals?
There is a reason when they are giving Player of the Year awards and Golden Ball awards at tournaments the goal scorers and creators are recognized first. Hmmm now I see it |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:15pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
afrodoc2: Ok how many goals or assists did Fred have. He is after all a midfielder. Exactly what I'm talking about. Goals and assists |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:14pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
afrodoc2: If you want to troll let me know.
Heinze won this award and 2 years later he was surplus to requirements.
Herrera won this award and 2 years later he was surplus to requirements. There's no trolling there. AWB was one of those said to be hindering our football. But I'm seeing him among our top 4 performers here. Where's the troll na? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:12pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
afrodoc2: I just checked Whoscored.
Our top season average performers in the EPL last season were:
1) Bruno Fernandes 7.73
2) Marcus Rashford 7.35
3) Anthony Martial 7.31
4) Wan-Bissaka 7.19 2017/18 De Gea the winner of the player of the year award. I don't think anyone will argue about this, but he wasn't even top 5 according to whoscored ratings. There are indices that influences ratings, which will never favor some players. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:07pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
afrodoc2: I just checked Whoscored.
Our top season average performers in the EPL last season were:
1) Bruno Fernandes 7.73
2) Marcus Rashford 7.35
3) Anthony Martial 7.31
4) Wan-Bissaka 7.19 I'm glad AWB is there anyways. Good he's not a donkey and a problem anymore |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:02pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
afrodoc2: Not until resumption.
His performance level dropped right from January when Bruno arrive and Matic regained form. Fred was good from Aug to Jan but afterwards he was quite terrible IMO.
Bruno, Martial, Rashford, and even AWB before Fred for me. AWB was good for a longer period than Fred and he was actually good until the resumption before he fell off a cliff. Well its settled then. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:01pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
weedtaker: I think him and black Ronaldo were the best performers until Bruno arrived. Afrodoc2 does not like Fred, he won't agree  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:51pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
afrodoc2: He was what until the resumption? One of our best performers |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 3:39pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
Unlimited22: Nah I'm not pissed, just sad and filled with pity as a result of what's happened to you. Your lack of transfer activity save signing someone who won't start has frustrated you all, and you're looking for cheap outlets to vent.
As if when the 'as a bluu' and 'up bluus' rubbish led by neezar Starts, anyone complains. Go and check the two threads and see who trolls more.
Anyway, enjoy your summer of pain. There has always been trolling between both clubs, or foolishness like you prefer to see it. I know you're pained, just try to ignore because it's not going away |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:30pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
Bjteensdes24: Am not saying Bruno didn't deserve it just saying Fred should be ahead of all those 2 England players if not ahead of Greenwood And I agree with you |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:28pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
MRTA7: Recency bias I guess. Fred was probably our most consistent performer in the first half of the season before Christmas. But the team didnt do very well in that first half. In the 2nd half when we were better he wasnt one of our stronger performers. He was until the resumption and that was around July |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:27pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
elrony: Sounds like gnashing of teeth  I believe the squad is better than most of us think. Our inability to sell off players is a big problem too |
TV/Movies › Re: Power TV Series Fan Thread: STARZ by eph12(m): 2:05pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
ucsquare: I disagree, the real issue was Angie. Her coming into Ghost life completely destroyed his relationship with his family and that of his best friend..
Working for the FBI further complicated the whole situation cos if Angie was just a normal lady that Ghost has feelings for i doubt things would have turned out this way.. Tasha could have moved on from Angie. Same Angie was used to protect the same ghost family and Tommy. What they couldn't move on from was the money and power they were getting from the drug business. And ghost was also a threat to the continuity of the drug business. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 1:48pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
Bjteensdes24: You can imagine they vote according to their own likes..All 3 bottom players are England How can fans just dump Fred like that? Bissaka ahead of Fred like WTF! We need to very the authenticity of that poll result. Fred was running away with the player of the year award before Bruno came in. I'm not sure there's anybody that disagrees with this |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 1:46pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
OGS has asked us to expect a year of growth and experience. I expect us to maximize the talent in the squad and get better as a team this year. We won't be in any serious shout for a trophy. That starts from next season. Sounds like a plan to me though |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 1:44pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
De Gea is the record winner of the Manchester United player of the year award |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 1:35pm On Sep 18, 2020 |
Why are these people angry over the 100m Abramovich paid? Is it your money? United is even praying to have someone like Abramovich that can spend like this on one player na  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 11:08am On Sep 18, 2020 |
[quote author=BlueAngel444 post=94045112][/quote]Wikipedia ffs
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TV/Movies › Re: Power TV Series Fan Thread: STARZ by eph12(m): 9:37am On Sep 18, 2020 |
aliyuthayo: Besides if there was a way to prevent Tariq from Kanan(50cents) maybe he wouldn't have gone gangster Kanan filled a role that was missing. Ghost role. If ghost wasn't always at war with Tasha and Tariq having to choose sides. At the end of the day, ghost really has to blame himself for his problems with Tariq. He should have been more present and interested in Tariq extracurricular activities. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:33am On Sep 18, 2020 |
afrodoc2: Exactly. I watched a game full of senior players and all they did was do “pass to Adnan and hope for the best”. Imagine at that age, when the lad should be enjoying his game and be under some mentorship |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:31am On Sep 18, 2020 |
Oasis007: Manchester United Player of the Year voting percentages:
Bruno Fernandes - 35.5% Anthony Martial - 34% Marcus Rashford - 10.4% Mason Greenwood - 8.3% Aaron Wan-Bissaka - 3.8% Harry Maguire - 2.4% Wow pastor Fred not even having a look? What they say about pooling booths eh |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:06am On Sep 18, 2020 |
Nezzjnr: They were relegated...
Don't you feel he'll come cheap Oh didn't even remember they were relegated. Still they can hold on to him if they wanted to |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:51am On Sep 18, 2020 |
Nezzjnr: If he goes for 30m...Then it'll be okay even if he doesn't perform 
Blowing 120 for a player that hardly proves himself in the National team and UCL is a big gamble Knowing how English teams are, I doubt he will go for less than 50m |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:46am On Sep 18, 2020 |
Nezzjnr: 5 goals and 4 assists in 28 matches
That's low 22 starts and that's Watford. He should be able to give us at least times 2 of that |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:45am On Sep 18, 2020 |
elrony: We should sign him already, better than having James or Mata there; as them no wan sign anybody.
But then again e fit be fake news as usual  Yeah I dey suspect the news sha |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:41am On Sep 18, 2020 |
Nezzjnr: Goodluck to who??  Sancho na |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:33am On Sep 18, 2020 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:15am On Sep 18, 2020 |
Nezzjnr: This is the only time Sancho can come cheap
Dortmund expects a bidding war to happen next season... Once Mbappe goes to Madrid... Expect Psg to come for him and they'll be ready to give anything Goodluck to him then. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:43am On Sep 18, 2020 |
Nezzjnr: Reports yesterday said we are bidding for Sarr from Watford
I don’t want to believe that news at all Hope you're not among those that would have objected to Mane purchase back then when he was at Southampton? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:42am On Sep 18, 2020 |
Nezzjnr: Reports yesterday said we are bidding for Sarr from Watford
I don’t want to believe that news at all They're most likely looking for a RW around a certain amount, or one that they can manage till maybe when they can go for Sancho |