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Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 9:05am On Mar 31, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Therefore if you want to compare JEHOVAH to any other God please present their Witnesses and the good things they've achieved globally. Act 1:8

May you have PEACE! smiley
Lol explain what u mean by this...
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 9:01am On Mar 31, 2022
You are at odds with understanding this topic...as long as u don't understand the term Gods" as being intelligent Extra-terrestial species same as Jehovah, then it would be hard for you...these beings were not present on earth during Israel's exodus ..they only taught their people means to communicate with them but their absence meant there was little their people could do....
Jehovah's mission was not for u to know him...it was an empire tru Abraham, you are only a Christian today as an African because of the advent of the Europeans who subjugated our ancestors to believe their religion, the British, french , Spanish and Portuguese carried off from where the Roman empire left in the expansion of Christendom...
Jehovah has no business with Christianity, he gave his people laws to guide them tru their exodus and quest to become a state.....
You are a Christian today because of force, not because ur ancestors accepted it willingly... Christianity spread by the quantity of its violence so did Islam...
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 8:22am On Mar 31, 2022
Maxinthehouse

You claim the war was a proxy war, sincerely do u think that Jehovah would have stood a chance against the Egyptian Gods if they were present during the captivity of Israel? Even without the presence of their Gods...they subjugated the Israelites for a long time before Jehovah came up with his tricks , this was heavily one-sided, same way he tipped the scales of battle for Israel in so many occasions... because he's not omni-present, whenever he was away to wherever he came from and Israel was attacked during his absence, he will blame the losses for their disobedience...and then use his presence to aid Israel in their wars... imagine if other nations had their Gods present, Jehovah would have bn crushed....u cant even compare Jehovah to Egyptian Gods, Babylonian(mesopotamia) Gods..Persian Gods, these Gods left legacies and long standing impact on their people
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 8:15am On Mar 31, 2022
Around 722 B.C., the Assyrians invaded and destroyed the northern kingdom of Israel. In 568 B.C., the Babylonians conquered Jerusalem and destroyed the first temple, which was replaced by a second temple in about 516 B.C.

For the next several centuries, the land of modern-day Israel was conquered and ruled by various groups, including the Persians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Fatimids, Seljuk Turks, Crusaders, Egyptians, Mamelukes, Islamists and others.


From 1517 to 1917, what is today Israel, along with much of the Middle East, was ruled by the Ottoman Empire.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 8:07am On Mar 31, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
This is the reason why JEHOVAH sent out His WITNESSES throughout the earth!
Had it been you studied His word with those sent to come and discuss with you you will know better.
First of all JEHOVAH wasn't planning to rule the world of rebellious humans because Satan is their God and he has assigned different Spirits (fallen angels/demons) to rule over various domains so don't think JEHOVAH wants to drag that with Satan.
Secondly JEHOVAH only chose a nation to serve as example for others to distinguish between those worshiping the true God and worshipers of demons so know today that all other nations were worshiping demons that's why they were fighting over lands as each demon also wants more worshipers and it's the humans they were using as puppets to fight for territories.

So when JEHOVAH chose the land of Canaan as a place to establish pure worship the demons keep instigating their own worshipers to go attacking God's people either to reclaim the land or dominate them. But JEHOVAH proved to be the Almighty as the Israelites keep conquering them. Satan knew that JEHOVAH has a standard and He won't change it so Satan used certain humans to lead God's people into sin that will irritate JEHOVAH and abandon His chosen people. Anytime this happens other nations will overpower the Israelites.
So how has JEHOVAH proved to be the Almighty today?
All those demons failed to fetch for Worshipers outside their domain as they only fight to kill and intimidate people so that such ones are forced to worship them. This has been the common way of getting more worshipers. These demons knew very well that JEHOVAH will not allow them to continue dominating mankind forever but they were trying hard to restrict JEHOVAH'S orders from reaching their own worshipers because they know that once JEHOVAH is able to get His own Witnesses throughout the globe then right thinking persons will notice the difference between the worshipers of the true God and worshipers of demons!
After JEHOVAH has sent his only begotten Son Jesus Christ to come and establish the preaching and teaching campaign that will get all races under pure worship, the demons began fighting to stop pure worship but when they discovered that true worshipers can't be intimidated and that they're fully prepared to lay down their lives for the propagation of pure worship the demons changed their system and 80% of them began claiming they're for the God of Abraham yet their way of dominance remains which is intimidating and forcing people under their domain.
Unsuspecting onlookers will conclude that the worshipers of such demons are for JEHOVAH but intelligent observers can see that they're not because JEHOVAH'S only begotten Son has ruled out the idea of forcing people to worship his father.
So it's still the same demons that are operating underG yet claiming they're for Jesus or the God of Israel.
Today JEHOVAH has vindicated His Holy name through the activities of His Witnesses who have separated themselves from all Worshipers of demons who are still fighting and killing themselves over domains {Revelations 6:3-4} JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So when you say "JEHOVAH failed" look into the matter critically and intelligently because JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are brothers and sisters of their fellow believers whereas all other Gods have failed woefully to make LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign among their worshipers!

May you have PEACE! smiley
Lol, your reasoning is very flawed because the world was not centered around the area of Israel... during the period when Jehovah led the Israelites, there were other massive civilizations already in existence....
What sense does it make to single out when nation as a symbol of ur authority and use them to wage war against others...u said God promised them canaan, wasn't canana already inhabited by its own people? The Israelites waged war on so many nations during their exodus in their bid for statehood, there is nothing spiritual about this, its is pure warfare, u can even see God given them instructions on how to handle women, slaves and spoils of war, even telling them not to assimilate these foreign captives...
Your assumption that the Israelites war on nations was a proxy war between Jehovah and demons in false because there's no report of the God's of these nations making any impact on their warfare....
I have to stick to the topic of this post, The quest for Israel statehood was a failure, the Israelites couldn't consolidate the territories they conquered...the state divided and the Babylonian conquest was the end and they fell into series of occupation because of the strategic location they occupied...
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 4:21am On Mar 31, 2022
KnownUnknown:
I spoke to ol’ Jim Bob from nearby Clovis. He said a boy met a two headed ET back in the summer of 1969 and the Air Force quickly whisked him, his parents, and four siblings to an undisclosed location. Witness Protection Program. These two headed ETs are what the the townspeople called Orcs. The ark is a quantum entanglement warp drive used to terraform sections of planetary bodies to suit ET physiology. It is the key to multi planetary existence.
This is amazing, so many things happened in the aftermath of Roswell... wow i see...this alien topic is a very interesting one...its puzzling and very complex to wrap one's head around...
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 10:39pm On Mar 30, 2022
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People are saying the Orcs warred with the Reptilians over the Holy Grail. The Nazis found it in the arctic during WWII and they said the Orcs came back in the 1940s and 1950s to retrieve the Holy Grail and also the Ark. You’ve heard about Roswell? I’ve been there!!! They even have McDonald’s that looks like a spaceship.
Really complex stuff.[/quote]I know the Nazis were heavily involved with alien stuffs...i don't know about orcs...
Yes the Roswell incident has really intrigued me so much....when next u visit there...u could visit locals and ask some questions...there would be some old people who their parents must have told them some things about what happened...
I believe the ark must have bn a very strong tech device
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 9:40pm On Mar 30, 2022
KnownUnknown:
Did the Reptilians come after them or were they contemporaries?
Some say the Reptilians are still running things. Are they in cahoots with the Gods and communicating through sublime frequencies?
What about the Annunakis?
This is very complex...
Perosnally i believe there's no Monopoly on which species are running Earth , there are different species with their own interests...the anunakis are Mentioned in sumerian mythology and might be one of the first to have visited earth because ancient sumeria is the oldest civilization according to our knowledge so far...
Its difficult to rationalize this topic because its very complex and we humans have lost most of our history...
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 9:17pm On Mar 30, 2022
LordReed:
And how many Chinese worship these gods?
This ur question get as e be....i no understand you
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 9:15pm On Mar 30, 2022
List of some yoruba Gods...you can see their functions , they transferred knowledge to their people and this enabled their people to grow,develop and adapt to the world when they left...
These Gods at some point went back to their planet...



Ọbalúayé - orisha of the Earth and strongly associated with infectious disease and healing
Erinlẹ̀ - an elephant hunter and physician to the gods
Èṣù - Èṣù is the orisha of crossroads, duality, beginnings and balance
Ibeji - twin orisha of vitality and youth
Lógunẹ̀dẹ - a warrior and hunter
Ọbàtálá - creator of human bodies; orisha of light, spiritual purity, and moral uprightness
Odùduwà - progenitor orisha of the Yorubas
Ògún - orisha who presides over iron, fire, hunting, agriculture and war
Okó - a hunter and farmer
Osanyin - orisha of the forest, herbs and medicine
Oṣùmàrè - divine rainbow serpent associated with creation and procreation
Ọ̀ṣọ́ọ̀sì - orisha of the hunt, forest, strategy and of the knowledge
Ṣàngó - orisha of the thunders and lightnings
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 9:11pm On Mar 30, 2022
The story of Gods impacting humans with knowledge can be found in so many cultures...from the native Americans to Indians e.t.c....this transfer of knowledge helped early humans build better sophisticated societies...
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 9:08pm On Mar 30, 2022
these are some of chinese Gods and their impact on their people...
meanwhile jehovah did not have any meaningful impact on his people...only giving them rules and strict laws to ensure order and stability during the exodus...



Sānhuáng — Three Patrons (or Augusts) or 三才 Sāncái — Three Potencies; they are the "vertical" manifestation of Heaven spatially corresponding to the Three Realms (三界 Sānjiè), representing the yin and yang and the medium between them, that is the human being:

伏羲 Fúxī the patron of heaven (天皇 Tiānhuáng), also called Bāguàzǔshī (八卦祖師 "Venerable Inventor of the Bagua"wink by the Taoists, is a divine man reputed to have taught to humanity writing, fishing, and hunting.
女媧 Nǚwā the patron of earth (地皇 Dehuáng), is a goddess attributed for the creation of mankind and mending the order of the world when it was broken.
神農 Shénnóng — Peasant God, the patron of humanity (人皇 Rénhuáng), identified as Yándì (炎帝 "Flame Deity" or "Fiery Deity"wink, a divine man said to have taught the techniques of farming, herbal medicine and marketing. He is often represented as a human with horns and other features of an ox.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 8:57pm On Mar 30, 2022
LordReed:
Who is the extra terrestrial god of China?
The Chinese worshipped many Gods... these Gods helped and taught them stuffs they used to build their societies, medicine, architecture, e.t.c...china is not a homogeneous nation, there are different ethnicities who have different deities...

Christianity EtcRe: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op): 8:53pm On Mar 30, 2022
edego2up:
If so as proclaim by you, what then do you have to say about the nation of Israel?
Please go back and read your history very seriously
Israel till date have remain a strong and United States
Though many of your like have been trying to pollutes them with your evil fondamentalism
Can you equate Israel with Nigeria?
So, don't be surprised you are not going through the right part,God is supreme and he is Jehovah, have the keys of the heavens and the earth
Read and understand my post, Jehovah failed in his mission to create a state for the Israelites... Israel is only existing today because of the British and the American led order that has enabled it to survive...
Israel as we know it today was created by the British and was immediately recognized by the Harry Truman led government of the United States...even the soviet union recognized it immediately...the US has massively funded Israel so it can survive...do u know how many years the jews have had to be subjugated before the British gave them statehood
Christianity EtcWhy Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul(op):
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CrimeRe: RRS Rescues Tanker Driver And His Assistants From Armed Robbers. by Ertugrul: 3:44pm On Mar 27, 2022
Good job RRS
PoliticsRe: What Are Your Thoughts On The Western-led World Order by Ertugrul(op): 11:56am On Mar 22, 2022
carl90:
I don't believe there is anything like a Western-led world order.
If you can have a commodity here you can sell to the world,you dictate what order the world will be.
Think Agriculture !
Yes u think so because of the imperial system of the west...even if u have agriculture, u need other sectors to complement your economy...
As i said, there must always be hegemony...u cannot rule yourself , you must be a subject to someone or be the superpower...
PoliticsRe: What Are Your Thoughts On The Western-led World Order by Ertugrul(op): 10:19am On Mar 22, 2022
joyandfaith:
There is different between global order and one world government. The later has to with conspiracy theories.
a unipolar order has been in place since the fall of the soviet union...global powers cannot come together to govern as long as theres national interest, shortage of critical resources, different ideologies ,e.t.c...
PoliticsRe: What Are Your Thoughts On The Western-led World Order by Ertugrul(op): 10:13am On Mar 22, 2022
joyandfaith:
Europeans colonised Africans. Most Africans have been westernized. If eastern block takes over control of the world, Africans have to be easternized.
My own take is sooner or later global powers would be leveled. There will be unipolar world order where all global powers will converge to ensure peace and security. They would unite in checkmating religious extremism and other factors contributing to insecurity.
PoliticsWhat Are Your Thoughts On The Western-led World Order by Ertugrul(op): 9:52am On Mar 22, 2022
The conflict in Ukraine has opened up lots of anti-west sentiment especially here in Africa...
Some of the sentiments echoed includes the possible demise of the current global order in favour of China-Russia led Order...
As an African, whats your viewpoint on this...
You have to note that there must be control and order in all aspects of human life...a vacuum at the top must be filled...the controlling empire must look out for personal strategic interest above all else... secondly..will a China led autocratic system be good for Africa considering the diversity of African countries and the current crop of inept leaders we have...
Thirdly, how will u rate the American empire as compared to other empires that have reigned supreme...(Romans,Arabs, Mongols,Ottomans,British, Spanish, French, USSR,)
Over to you Nairalanders....
TravelRe: Going To Thailand For Vacation by Ertugrul: 8:35am On Mar 21, 2022
te author=ednut1 post=111209920] why not go somewhere closer and easier to enter like dubai. Nigerians don't have good reputation there . What is in thailand self. Lady boys and sex tourism.[/quote]Oga close mouth if u no Sabi anything, Thailand is one of the most visited countries for tourists...there are lots of beautiful island and beaches, the op is going for vacation and not hustle...OP enjoy ur time in Thailand jare ..
RomanceRe: Have You Ever Dated An Albino?share Your Experience. by Ertugrul: 3:42pm On Mar 16, 2022
gentleman82:
Repent now of your sinful evil ways to avoid spending your eternity in hell fire after you die. Jesus Christ love and warns you to repent and convert now to Christianity to avoid hell fire. Only Jesus Christ can save you by his death on the cross and his blood which washes away your sins, any other ways ( Islam, paganism, Hinduism, atheism, etc) can not save you. Be wise while you still have the chance accept Jesus Christ now and save your soul from hell. Be wiser than Satan and follow the one true God. This is the eternal truth from the spiritual realm.
Abeg comot here jare...

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