airmark:


Throw more light to this so i will know how it has anything to do with what we are talking about here?

Salah had just been voted PFA player of the year in 2018. You brought up Hazard's history and said Salah is only just achieving what Hazard had already done.

So in the same way, Klopp is only just achieving ONCE what Pep has done on some occasions THREE times. If Klopp being Manager of the year in 2019 makes him the best coach. Then Raumdeuter was right when he said Salah was the best player in the EPL.

airmark:


Not all definitions are correct, his was not correct because Fraudiola is not the best manager at the moment. Only idiots will rate Fraudiola as the best manager at the moment, based on his achievements with Barca, over 9yrs ago.

Airmark, when Raumdeuter said Salah was the best player in the EPL. You said it was Hazard who won it in 2014.

raumdeuter:


Was it not with the same Dortmund that Klopp won the Bundesliga twice? Suddenly playing Pep, he realized he had less resources

Klopp got to EPL before Pep, yet Pep won 2 league titles in Klopps presence

Suddenly Klopp won after 6 tries and he has exposed Pep.

WHen Ranieri won the league with Klopp n Liverpool, Can we also say Ranieri exposed Klopp or that logic only works for Pep?

It works only for Pep.

airmark:


We are talking about the best coach at the moment, not in 2011.

I know. So he gave you his own definition. That the most successful to him is the best.

Greatihex:
sorry, I don't have your time.

I don't want yours either. I may have quoted you but I was addressing the subject matter. I don't quote you to expect an intellectual conversation. You should know that by now.

lordfalcao:
choose the narrative that suits you, while I choose mine. Below is me elaborating on what I mean by success means best to me.

Success made guardiola best amongst his peers, same made Ronaldo and Messi best amongst thier peers(attackers). I still maintain put Ramos in the list and he is the best

It has always been my problem with people here. Who ask for your definition of a subject. You give them. They don't agree yet they would not put forward their own definition so you too can scrutinize. You are just wrong because they want you to be wrong.

airmark:


Says one lordfalcao in Ihiala.

Are these awards Pep has not won more than once?

hensben:
When kLOPP best players were been poached left right corner at dortmund and you expected him to compete with Pep who his treble winning team was been strengthened more and more.

How was Bayern being strengthened more and more? What record signings were they making?

Greatihex:
I am sorry to say this, but that man usually sounds like a slowpoke

You make no argument to call someone names. If you have a solid contrary view. Present it. He told you how he defines success amongst successful people. If you disagree, present why then be ready to listen when he creates an example where your argument might fail. You will realise that he was entitled to his opinion and he probably was not wrong.

BikeMan:
Nothing, because they can't

Elruditor, it's the HOPE that kills. Just say you're sorry and folks will forget it, this egun-ori won't help you

If you have nothing to lose or gain, sorry I cannot take you seriously. Good try though. That goes for you and the other guy who will not get my attention.

BikeMan:
Will you be laughing when you wine and dine with your peppered grilled hand too?

What do you stand to lose should City win the league?

raumdeuter:


How many clubs can offer Klopp the money to buy the world costlist defender and goalkeeper

Shebi we saw how he relegated Mainz and was Dortmund not midtable towards relegation before he left?

Pep and Klopp played the same league for 5 seasons this would be the 6th season and this will actually be the first time Klopp will finish ahead of Pep

WHen you finally top a person 1 time in 6 attempts thats exposure. That is how you expose someone. Some jokes write themselves

The same blank cheque Barcelona B offered Pep. The same blank cheque he had in Barca when he sold Etoo to get Zlatan.

When it is Klopp, it is a bargain. When it is Pep, it is kudiola.

Praise Jesus somebody!

kendrick93:
He was coaching inferior teams compared to pep with less resources....
How dare you compare a Bayern with Dortmund....if not for klopp would you have even made such comparison..... imagine comparing a club that can pick their rivals best player at any time....Klopp put Dortmund back on the map....
When klopp joined Liverpool,they were above midtable, he had to sell his best player to buy (according to you) the costliest defender which turned out to be a bargain and Allison..
Meanwhile Pep has been spunking money on average defenders(stones, Mendy and co) and still is in the market for more defenders....
THIS season klopp has exposed pep.......when under pressure Pep doesn't deliver,he hates challenge.....next thing on his cards will be joining Juve or Psg where the league is already a foregone conclusion, which he will win and his fanboys will hail his name.....he loves the easy route.....

Was it a different Liverpool team last season?

Swissh:

Yes same Klopp who lost Seven straight finals. Who was called Serial bottler and failure is now the Best thing since tissue paper.

On this very thread. The same people defending him used these same things to insult him just to praise Mourinho. They called him a fraud with yellow teeth who only knew ghenghen pressing and to hug his players. They said Klopp's tactics is passion. And said Mou was doing a better job in United.

Seeing these same posters now..I cannot stop laughing. I swearigad.

Swissh:
The agenda have shifted from Mourinho to klopp. Will klopp Liverpool win Chelsea side of 2004/2005 all the Chelsea fans quiet. You see United fans defending their team of 07/08 but Chelsea fans just to suck dick kept quiet. What a disgrace of a fanbase.

God is my witness, I always look forward to reading your posts on this thread.

LOL

raumdeuter:
If EPL is not the most competitive league maybe una should just tell us

So that Pep can have other challenges

"Pep come and prove yourself in the EPL" He won 2

Now story don dey change to "Well winning the EPL is not a difficult job even if you do it back to back"

An overrated man who specializes in doing things nobody else has done..consistently.

hensben:
Klopp greatness is glaring to the eyes seeing the clubs he has coached and the challenges surrounding them meanwhile pep’s greatness is skeptical seeing the clubs he has used to attain the greatness.

LOL.

Read through my posts. I have never insulted Klopp. In fact, on nairaland, I defended him when some of you were hailing your Mourinho. Now Mourinho fanboys are the ones pretending they love Klopp because they think it spites Pep.

LOL

raumdeuter:


Pep took Man city who finished 4th with 66points in the EL to 3rd, 1st 1st in 3 straight seasons

That is what we call dominance and effect

Abi to win EPL the most competitive league in Europe no be difficult job again

One is overrated for winning that thing Klopp has not yet won (twice) and the one he has won (at least one more time...in everything).

Yet one is overrated and the other one is wonderful.

Okay. Okay.

Apostle Swissh at his most anointed moment.

I stan.

Greatihex:
are you ready to put money on it?

I already did.

smokers:


Most NBA pundit predictions are wrong. Those guys just talk for ratings

True. It still cracks me up though.

TeflonBlixx:


Maybe, just maybe you can see the future. What do I know sef?

I know one thing for sure that IF the reverse happens, you aren't going to eat your hand as you promised or 'staked'.

Just another talk is cheap shyte. Imagine yourself grilling your left limb on a guaze.

Mad oo

Ok

Messi is a choker; Can't win without Xavi and Iniesta
Iniesta is a eunuch with poverty numbers
Xavi is a liability
Busquets..biscuit
Pique is not a serious defender
Who signed Pedro for us oh..he is useless
Pep is overrated and a fraud.

But...But..But that Barca team is the best team we have ever seen and will win everyone. Praise the lord!

Who remembers when the pundits said Kyrie and his then celtics will win 67 games and compete with GSW for a ring?

Me neither.

Greatihex:
this oga eyes Don dey clear small small.

You amuse me...really.

My statement means one thing. I am surprised you did not get it.

TeflonBlixx:


Bro, What's up?

Are you really serious feasting on your hand if Man City does not win the league?

I'm serious o

I am not cowered by premature celebrators. People who really don't stand for anything. Only gaslighting and glory-hunting.

Expert17:


U mite be lucky in UCL and face smaller teams in Knockout stage,.... Also easy opponents in group stage,.... Also away goals do help some times.....

But EPL, u face every team home and away,.. no away goal,..... U face big n small,...
The best Club always win the League.....

But sometimes, u must not be d best, to win UCL, Chelsea 2012, Porto 2004 etc

For context, Klopp, Mou, Jupp and SAF were active coaches in 2012 when that Chelsea team won the UCL. But guess who they called fraud for not winning it? LOL

My own is, Burnley should have had a penalty in this game.

Swissh:


The club being bank rolled by a Russian oligarch is complaining about spending . Imagine the irony . Without Russian Money all these glory hunters parading themselves as Chelsea fans will be either United fans or Barca.

You posted this before me. I have never seen such hypocrisy.

airmark:


Was Barcelona B playing in la liga? Welcome back sha.

When are you using that matchet on that hand?

That shows how small the team was. They were in the 3rd division and he won the league and qualified them to the second playing breath-taking football.

I won't eat my hands. I have told you people. Only celebrate when it is mathematically impossible for Liverpool to lose the title. You who got laughed at when Barca led 3-0 last season should know anything can happen. Nobody has ever won the league with 64 points.

Swissh:

The way baba was emphasing on the spending you will think Chelsea were spending peanuts during those periods. Lo and behold taking just the first 3 seasons the difference was €8million according to transfermarkt .

You would be surprised how ignorant most of them are. Just like the people who like to say "Pep cannot coach a small team". Forgetting that he was coaching Barcelona B team when he was hired.

raumdeuter:


SHow us evidence that Pep spent a billion and I will show you evidence of Chelsea spending a quarter of a billion in 1 season

Even players that were bought for the academy will be listed as transfers Pep made. Even players that have been sold like Douglas Luiz etc. I have never seen where you want to prove someone is overrated but you need lies to make your argument.