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CapitalCee:
yes you where with Sanchez when he went back to city to ask them to match the pay. or are we also going to use deductive reason to know this one?

aliondo:
Forget about his stats two years ago...This season,P.G beat Klay both offensively and defensively...whichever way you want to look at it....

Decale:
Kyrie and Klay are completely different. No other PG in the East is averaging points up to Kyrie and let's not forget his impact on the team.

PG on the other hand is having a better defensively and offensively season than Klay without looking at the stats. He makes up a whole lot of the team's offense unlike Klay. His starters make up 80% of Thunder points, which means when he's not on court, there's problem; still unlike Klay.

No how, no how wey you go twist this thing, even with all the third option talk that Klay is better than PG and Lou Williams this season. When you're 3rd option, you don't get to have more luxury than people that are the carriers of their team. Laye laye

And overall, his style of play is more enjoyable than watching Klay shoot midrange, 3 balls and bland layups in an All Star game. I will sleep...

sinizia:
No offence intended, but the emboldened is an avalanche of bullshît. Better still, it's aptly described as apples and oranges. Makes no goddamn sense.

1. Watford have never spent the kind of huge money the likes of Shitty, United, Chelshit, Barcelona and other top clubs have spent in this modern transfer window in their entire history. Apples and oranges.

2. Watford are ambitious, but there own ambitions is survival in the EPL and having a good run generally in cup competitions or league. Any other achievements like winning the FA Cup, Caraboa Cup or qualifying for European competition is a bonus and a lucky achievement for them, so sacking managers is means of survival not to win major trophies. But when top clubs sack mangers, it's usually for them not making the UCL or winning trophies. Apples and oranges.

3. When Man Shitty sacked Pellegrini, they got Pep. Who did Watford get? When Man Shitty hired Pep, they did with the future dream of winning UCL, league titles and having the success Pep brought to Bayern, Barca. Which success or targets will Watford demand from the average coach that replaced Silva? Apples and oranges.

4. Watford after sacking the coach before Silva was appointed, how much did they spend, and what are the quality of players they bought? When Man City appointed Mancini, below is what a website had to write about their ambitions, and onslaught in the transfer window. Check out the players they got and how much they spent.



Man City's spending and the players they bought showed the higher ambitions of that club; Man City sack managers to aim higher, Watford sack theirs to escape relegation. Once again, apples and oranges.

5. Finally, the most funny one - You've the chutzpah to list Tevez, Mascherano and Lavezzi in your argument. First of all, the Chinese league just like the American league snap up mostly expired or waning TOP players who's past their prime (the young ones are usually average players or poor low tier ones) because theirs are still a growing league and need the influx of popular players to put their league on the map. They're not yet established. When LA Galaxy signed Beckham, they knew he's finished, or at least they signed him coz of his A-list status. He was signed to bring American league to the limelight. Beckham spent his prime at United and Madrid. It's same for Xavi and his Qatar quest. So if I find it funny that you're mentioning mercenaries and expired products like Mascherano, Lavezzi and Tevez who have their best years behind them. Who next will you mention? The Oscars, Anichebes and Ighalos of this world?

Chinese clubs owners are showing ambition like their American counterparts by bringing in this popular stars to help grow their league, while these expired stars are going their for the money. So yes, The Chinese club owners are showing ambitions, that's why they criticised Tevez for scamming them when they were dreaming of having a determined Tevez of yesteryears. Neymar moved from Barca to PSG but his dream of competing at the highest stage, playing in Europe's top competition and at the highest level were never in doubt. If he'd done the same with the Chinese league, everybody would've concluded it is for the money because Chinese league is a lowly rated league which top players in demand doesn't give a fùck about. If Lavezzi, Tevez and co moves to City, their ambitions are not questioned coz City is a top club in England and Europe top 5 league, but when they move to China, everybody knows the truth that's its about the money. The difference is clear.

Decale:
That's the point you're missing. This is an All Star game, selected for how good you are in scoring/passing not for defending. Nobody plays defense in an All Star game

If we're talking about All defensive team or All NBA first team or whatever, then your point would have more stronghold.

Vorkalth:
You love your warriors team and you will defend them no matter how unreasonable your argument sounds. You probably also think Draymond should have made it ahead of PG as well. I'm not saying this to disparage you, but this is something i have noticed about you.

But somehow i feel that discredits every statement you make.

aliondo:
Well..everybody entitled to their own opinions but one thing i know for sure is that numbers dont lie...Bro,pls check the stats..

aliondo:
Are you saying klay deserves a spot over P.G?

Oasis007:
^^^^^^^



....... but he didn't attack your Family?! His Family ain't part of the Discourse, then why bringing them in?! Will you be happy or proud if yours are also attacked?!

Sometimes we do cross the Line to get cheap Likes and Shares, to win e-battle that ain't gonna add value to one's Profile in real Life. Its really a pity you could stoop so low, and recklessly attack his Family.

Lana1:
Lmao. U re fool with a bloated ego. If u want people to make u look right, then stop saying trash on an online forum.

Only a stupid, daft, dumb, insecure, vacuous, obtuse illiterate with an IQ that cant even flash Glo to Glo and a brain the size of a pebble would claim City had no title ambitions when the Sheikh took over them.

City were showing title ambitions and hoped to win the league by buying the best players around. Robinho came to City because of the money. Simple. How is this different from the Sanchez situation??

If City had no title ambitions why were they sacking managers at will??


U've already proved that u're not very bright on this forum so i'm not surprised at this foolish show of shame u re currently displaying "Mr Height is a Talent".

Decale:
Lol. Nah. He's been doing that for 17 games plus since the roster got injured. Prior to that, he also had some 20+ points games from the bench with the same FGs as Thompson but less minutes.


You can't average 23 points a game and have only 11 good games...

You can't average the most points (31ppg) since December and have only 11 good games...

You can't have the most 40 point and 30 point games since that span and have only 11 good games, brother... You can't have the most 3 pointers and free throws (best FT percentage too) since then and it's 11 games

Man dropped 40 points from the bench, the only player this season since Lou Williams did it last. Also gave 50 points and an L at the Oracle Arena. How about the 30 and 10 steals, etc etc?

Let's not forget what he did for the team, having one time the best stretch in the league.

I can go on and on why Lou or PG deserves it more than Klay.

Decale:
My own problem na mainly Paul George not getting in. Would take out Klay Thompson tbvh. And Lou Williams inconsistencies aren't like Thompson's. Lou even does that from the bench, taking his team from 11th to playoff contention and simultaneously having his name in the history books. That's All Star quality there

If we're talking about gathering of team players with a wonderful record, then that's understandable. But na individual performances plus impact maketh an All Star mostly...


Thompson, Lowry and Horford are mainly there for their team standings. When we know Drummond, Kemba and Dragic are having better seasons. Ditto YGtrece and Lou

In summary: Na Paul George dey vex me pass...

Decale:
Weird Lou Williams and Paul George didn't make it. Green and Thompson are having an okay season unlike those other 2 especially Thompson. At least my man, Dame gets his first rodeo


And Lowry over Kemba is unacceptable. Beal did get in finally!!!! Hallelujah!!!!

joeace2020:
I could not believe a human being typed that. That City was buying players because of their wealth, not for trophies while United was buying for trophies not to show off.. Jesus Christ! Are we sure we are not talking to robots here?

The United hatred is freaking real.. it makes people behave irrationally and zombielike

joeace2020:
wow! How can i unread this?

ToyinDipo:
Not many players who have played for Pep before, would actually want to play for him again
Jose however has his way of winning over players.

eph12:
So he refused to go to City because they were not ready to pay him this much? Interesting. I thought he loved City and Pep so much and wanted to play for them but Pep refused him?

eph12:
You like story abeg.

Just to confirm if Sanchez going to City would have been for money or paper is why you are typing plenty things.

eph12:
If he had gone to City last summer he would have signed for the what?

eph12:
Link please

sinizia:
It's not a must and there's no rule that state all club must follow a certain pattern of payment. You don't know how clubs decides to negotiate their contracts. Some can do it on weekly basis, some might not. The loyalty bonus of Neymar is different from other clauses/bonuses in his contract. Neymar's image right, match bonus were different from his loyalty bonus for signing a new contract. Don't lump them together to win this argument.

eph12:
Abeg i don laff scatter..

KDB is reported to sign a 290k per week deal. Is this before or after tax? If it is after tax, how much do you think the full package will be? Sir can you also tell us if De Bruyne will collect some change for image right as he is currently the best player in the league?

joeace2020:
lol.. baba there is a media war going on when United is brought into discussions. One of the reasons we are now the biggest club is because of the media. They talk about United morning day and night. If you open any football related website right now.. You'll see a united article in its first 3 articles. They create negative stories about us, they add figures that suit them on our players wages because they know there are millions of anti-united audience eager to get these information on united and knowing fully well negative news sells faster so they keep churning them out article after article and as you have seen from this thread, people can't wait to read anything negative about us. If the real De Bruyne figures are put out, we all know nobody would be interested in reading it, articles about players from clubs in England bar united do not generate enough clicks, impression, adsense money hence the the obvious negative press united and anyone associated with the club receives. It only saddens me when people choose to ignore the real realities which in this case is that De Bruyne, many of City players, Chelsea players have their wages represented correctly after tax in the press because no one wants to read about them but United's are reported with additional strange figures just for some small change. The other day it was an article about Pogba wanting more money because Sanchez earns £400,000 weekly after tax..Another funny figure. For them, in other clubs Ronaldo, Messi and co earning huge wages doesn't disrupt the dressing room.. Only at United because only United exists in world football in their bizarre stories.

CapitalCee:
STORY

show us the amount KDB is earning before tax. don't forget to add his image right, sign on fee, and agent fee.

eph12:
Wait! So it's only for Alexis or united players you calculate their wages before tax abi? How much is Due Bruyne wage pre tax?

CapitalCee:
eruditor. I am waiting for your answer on this, or will you take your L too and go?

joeace2020:
Eruditor.. you seem knowledgeable on the Uk tax system. Please come and tell us what De Bruyne and co at City are earning before tax since Snachez's is 600k..We are all waiting anxiously. United should not be the only club in the UK paying huge wages.

raumdeuter:
Yoh haven't shown us any link that shows that Zlatan is currently earning less than 200k in man utd

You were the one who brought a link saying he was earning 200k you were the one who brought a link that he took a 225k pay cut, 200- 225 = -25k a week, bros,
is Zlatan playing at a deficit? Is he owing man utd every week

sinizia:
What I was trying to let you know is that many sites write whatever they like to attract readers. They're usually lies which the players won't denounce. Daily mail for example have written that Ibra earned 250k. They've written also that he earned 360k+ in his first season. Below, they also wrote he earned 200k in his first season.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3671558/Zlatan-Ibrahimovic-breaks-Manchester-United-power-records-medical-completion-free-transfer-PSG.html

So most of these write-ups are lies. I honestly don't know what Sanchez earns, but I do know most of these sites are just whipping up imaginary figures from thin air to attract readers.

sinizia:
I've provided another link. Look up

sinizia:
Proves he's right, my black ass.

Wrong link. Here's the right one. It turns out that Zlatan was even earning not up to 200k a week.

http://sportsmaza.com/football/manchester-united-players-salary/

aliondo:
It was obvious the players did not like and want to play for David Blatt. I feel that was why he was fired. Lue does not look like he is in control of the team.

raumdeuter:
You didnt show evidence of what Zlatan previous earning was