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Obere4u:
You want proof right?

I watched the game and 3 of 4 city goals was counter attack.

How many did they miss that were not from counter?

I asked for proof then chipped in that you did not watch the game because if you did, your point would not have been asserted.

A Keeper that is making passes to the closest CBs and full backs around him in a game where his team could not pass out of their half is being compared to KDB that was responsible for most of the key plays from his team?

I agree that Lloris completed 38 passes to KDBs 35. But KDB had 6 key passes to Lloris' 0.

Are you sure you watched that game?

Neymar1095:
Forget about wenger self. Ferguson spent 30million to buy Ferdinand in 2002 . That's equalivant to 60million in today market.

70M+ even, considering Oxlade was bought for 35M.

BlueAngel444:
Azpi I know, Bellerin I might understand but who are these

At different points they were hyped over Walker. That is my point. Walker did not start playing yesterday. So tell your friend who was trying to argue that Walker was once the best in the league when he was not.

Obere4u:
Nope. Do you know Lloyris had more completed passes than KDB in that match?
Now compare to Silva vs Man Utd

LOL. Proof?

You did not watch that game and I don't have time to educate you about how it went.

Obere4u:
Is Azpi not better than Walker?

Tell the people who say City is filled with worldclass players.

BlueAngel444:
So who was the best RB in the league?

Whatever I say will be subjective. His own Manager, Poch, felt Trippier was better. Case dismissed.

Obere4u:
There was a reason Pep rushed Silva back against Man United. KDB is good but Silva is the controller of that midfield. Against Totham. City struggled to hold the midfield

LOL.

Nna e. What have I not seen today?

Because people/some say he is better than Hazard, KDB has been watered down like this?

Wenger signed;

Laca £52M
Ozil £42M
Alexis £32M
Xhaka £35M

But...But...Pep is only doing well because he signed expensive players.

As if he signed KDB.
As if he signed Silva.

atheist5:
yeah,but I guess you are right though,no wonder he rarely performs for Belgium I guess he needs a midfielder controller like xavi/Silva.gundogan to perform

Not a better coach?

atheist5:
name a Better right back than walker when he was at Tottenham?, my point us otamendi was one of the nest defenders in Spain before he came to city,yes or no?

Bellerin was widely regarded as better than Walker.

Debuchy.

Clyne.

Trippier.

Azpi etc

atheist5:
lol,barca get players pass Madrid then na,until 2011/2012

This is a lie.

Name the players and tell me what they were doing in 2007/08 when Barca were 18 points behind.

atheist5:
I nor understand you, are you saying walker was never considered the best rightback at the league whole at Tottenham?I said otamendi was regarded as one of the best defenders in Spain when at Valencia,do you know how much mancoty bought sane

LOL, Kyle "All brawn and no brain" Walker? Best in the league?

Otamendi was not signed by Pep o and he was error prone under Pelle and Pep last season.

BlueAngel444:
Pls incase your reading this do note Walker is a RB.

I know don't be disappoint with the bolded, and also it's not the first time in history a player plays both DM and in fullback.

Brazil's number 1 and most expensive GK in the world.

Also ask him which people. Sane=45+m pounds

Ederson Brazil's number 1 keeper? Jeeesus is Lord!!!

atheist5:
baba to type long note just week me,combine barca&Madrid 11 from 2009-2011

LOL, what are you on about?

BlueAngel444:
Pls who are the they

So you know the first bolded how, HOW.

You will soon say Sandro wants to join City as they approach him this Jan

Juventus abi did they sell to Chelsea?

BlueAngel444:
According to you Sandro was an after thought and Mendy that Chelsea didn't bid for was 1st choice, continue

After-thought in terms of "I doubt they would sell but let us try". Same way everyone knows Marcelo is the best LB in the world but would Madrid sell?

Mendy was the one they felt was sure-banker. I don't live in his house, I read it online. Google is a useful tool.

atheist5:
football is unpredictable,city has already won this title but all chanting pep domination,i just tire for them oh,somehow chelsea always find a way to win titles in abramovich era,any way make we dey look

If winning was all Roman cared for he probably won't have fired Mou or Carlo.

It is the way to win that lasts. The elegance, dominance, beauty. That is what Pep brings.

atheist5:
dude am not saying the guy is not good my stance is,the guy always have the best squad in the league before he starts winning titles and sometimes do not deliver[bayern in 2016 UCL],the way he is being overpraised by his fanboys just tire me,are you telling me that conte wont will the with this city squad even if it isnt half as flashy?

Apart from Bayern, Pep never had the best squad anywhere else. This narrative needs to be buried once and for all.

Barca of 07/08 had just lost to United (a team Fergie said was better than his treble winning squad). That would be the last time United will beat Barca in a competitive game.

It is virtually that same squad (subtract Dinho and Deco) that Pep used to humble the same United in 2 finals. Best squad my foot.

Maybe you should check the roster Madrid had. Madrid that had previously won the league 18 points ahead of Barca who were actually 3rd before Pep.

atheist5:
give pep chelsea team of last season and he nor go win league

You are actually right and I give Conte credit for it. Another manager had lied that those players could not do diddly squat and that he raised them to a level above what they could achieve.

But then, Pep has a style he likes to play. In fact, that is why he is sought after - his style and success. So he may not have won anything with that squad, true, but he would have signed players that fit his philosophy and Chelsea would have been Man City of this season.

Tim Sherwood said something after the Tottenham game and I agreed with him. He said "if Pep was managing this Tottenham squad, he would have won the league with them". I could not agree more.

BlueAngel444:
If it were Chelsea It was never Chelsea.

50+m pounds for Walker 50+m for Mendy, Chelsea bid similar for Sandro, 26, the 2nd best LB in the world ( Deal broken down because Juve didn't want to sell) It's not like Walker was far better than Moses or Valencia

LOL. Sandro was an after-thought; everyone knew Juve would not sell except £60M+. The next best option was Mendy which Conte tried ever so hard to sign including meeting the £52M valuation of Monaco. The powers that be tried to prevail on Mendy to go but once he heard about Pep's interest in him said he would play under no other manager.

The story is online that his agent would tell him "but Chelsea are the champs" to which Mendy would retort "but this is Pep. Everyone wants to play for Pep".

Considering this, Monaco asked City to meet the valuation of Chelsea and take the player. That is when City now bent and accepted that value. Maybe you have forgotten but the Mendy deal tarried for this very purpose I described above. City initially bid £40M+ for the player. The records are online.

This is how BR and Roman described Carlo's second season.

They will not rewrite history.

Those who know, know.

They say it is about money. It is not.

Everyone said Tottenham scammed City for Walker.

Other managers wanted some of the same players but they did not want to play for them.

Those who know, know.

Messi misses a penalty.


Jesus.

Suarez is not back.

He is not who he used to be.

I don't know why.

Ibime:
My friend close your mouth.

Carlo finished 2nd, Pep finished 3rd.

Carlo made QF of UCL, losing to United a European powerhouse. Pep lost to phucking Monaco in 2nd round.

Carlo was in title race till the last month, Pep was out by early January.

Did you knock your head? If Pep was judged by Chelsea standards, he would not make the end of the season. Scolari was sacked for being 7 points adrift of the league leaders.

One was 2nd with 71pts the other 3rd with 78.
One's team scored 99 in All competitions the other's team scored 123.
One's team lost home and way in the UCL the other got ousted on away goals (6-6).
One crashed out 3rd and 4th round of the Cups the other 4th and Semis.

Pep won more games than Carlo.
Pep had a better winning percentage than Carlo.

Therefore, Pep did not serve more crap than Carlo.

Mou was almost 30 points off Leicester before he was fired. Who gives a rat's arse about Scolari?

Ibime:
This means nothing. Carlo finished 2nd and was closer to the Champions than Pep and only dropped out the title race in the last month of the season, unlike Pep that waved white flag in January.

Carlo lost to Man United, eventual finalist in Quarterfinal. Pep lost to bloody Monaco in 2nd round, even throwing away a 2 goal lead in the process.

Prevarications.

Carlo lost to LFC, United, City, Arsenal even Sunderland whooped him 0-3 at Stamford bridge.

Chelsea even ended well hence why they finished 2nd. At some point, they and City overtook Arsenal to finish 2nd and 3rd.

That Chelsea team was largely clueless and boring. Anelka (16 goals) and Malouda (13) were the top scorers.

That Monaco team Pep lost to got to the Semis losing to Juve; scored goals for fun and had the winningest record in France. It is that team that has spun Mbappé, Bernardo Silva, Baka, Lemar and Mendy amongst others.

Funny enough, Aguero had to throw away half a dozen gilt-edge chances while Baka scored a fortuitous header late in the game to knock out that City team with Clichy, Sagna and Fernando who are playing in Turkey or clubless at the moment.

Forget this narrative you want to create. The 2nd place finish by Carlo was merely cosmetic.

Ibime:
Ancelottis 2nd season was better than the crap Pep served last season.

So if you are saying Ancelottis sack was merited, Pep woulda been sacked at Chelsea on last seasons performance.

Ancelotti in the league 21Ws 8Ds 71pts tied with City that year. Scored 69 goals conceded 33.
Pep, 23Ws 9Ds 78points. Scored 80 conceded 39.

League finishes can be misleading. Fergie had 80 points with 78 goals scored 37 conceded. Even less goals than the crap Pep served.

Carlo had an atrocious preseason (like he did with Bayern now). Lost out 3rd round of the League ahome to Newcastle. Crashed out 4th round of FA Cup to Everton. Lost out Quarters of UCL courtesy home and away losses.

Pep crashed out 4th round and Semis of Carling and FA Cups to eventual winners. Lost out on away goals to revelations of the year, Monaco.

The history is here. You cannot rewrite it.

Datapoboi:
Bia bia bia which mourinho chased pep out of Spain?? The same mou that lost d league a year later to a (rip) sorry to say this bedridden vilanova Abegi!!! Find another lie joor!!

I tire.

Another one wey dey crack me up na the "registered only 3 shots on target" LOL.

Information that can easily be disproved online.

A lot of deluded folks here; only a few know their stuff. Imagine Pochettino saying we only lost 4-1 when that match could easily have been 10-2.

These ones have forgotten how they were played off their own turf. I blame Jesus and Bernardo Silva sha.

But there would be another game at the Etihad and I pray their Pogba is there. I hate excuses.

Ibime:
If you don't know the ins-and-outs of a club, you should just leave it for those who do and stop guessing.

Chalobah had 1 year on contract and wanted to leave. Nobody is going to make plans with Chalobah in mind.

2nd thing, we are now in Europe, so we cannot expect to go into another season with only 2 or 3 senior midfielders. Any reasonable club will plan to add another senior midfielder, the koko here is whether Bakayoko is better than junior midfielders like Chalobah or RLC sef. You can argue that one with Conte, not me.

I am not contending whether Baka is better than Matic or Chalobah or RLC.

My argument has been that if Conte wanted Matic to stay as an important player that he later claimed Matic was, he would have kept him.

I am therefore implying that all that talk about Matic being a great loss is pure sophistry.

airmark:
They asked conte earlier in July about matic leaving the club when his destination was uncertained, he said he didn't know anything about it and they should ask the club.

Conte must have asked for additional buys while retaining matic, but the board had other economic ideas.

Okay. This seems more plausible. But I thought the club offered Matic a contract extension that he turned down to push for his move to United?

Ibime:
You have been educated and you are still yarning dust about your feelings. Stop wasting our time here.

“Bakayoko is a good signing for us. He is very young. My idea was to give Bakayoko the right time to adapt in this league behind Matic. But now after the sale of Matic, we need to try to accelerate this process for Bakayoko after his injury.”

https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2017/8/9/16119732/conte-matic-bakayoko-transfer-analysis-autopsy-blame

I am not refuting that he said these things. Did he really mean it?

Okay, so Luiz and him did not fall out this one he is claiming Luiz has lost his place in the team due to injury?

What about Cesc last season when he kept saying Cesc is a good player but was not playing him. Is it not this season we found out he thought Cesc would not fit into his plans until Cesc proved otherwise?

Conte is a sly man.

Ibime:
My friend no yarn wetin you no know.

Baka was one-in, one-out for Chalobah.

Drinkwater interest surfaced after negotiations for Matic had already started. Matic negotiations started in June or July that's why he was not allowed on preseason tour. That predates any link to Drinkwater.

They could not wait for Chalobah to learn under Matic. They sold him and bought a far more expensive player to train under him.

Okay. We learn every day.