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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Dont Know The Bible... by Eruditor: 6:47pm On Sep 09, 2014
1 Corinthians 9:5 GNT

Don't I have the right to follow the example of the other apostles and the Lord's brothers and Peter, by taking a Christian wife with me on my trips?

Leave Pastor Chris alone and study your bible. The anointing he walks with no MOG in Nigeria works with and not just for healings or miracles. He is a teacher.

See the congregation of people who want to teach him about marriage and what not saying "where was it written in the bible that the disciples were married or that they most definitely were married even though it is not mentioned in the bible"

Please don't make me laugh. I doubt I know up to 10% of what he knows and see how much more such my little knowledge is beyond some of you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 6:39pm On Sep 09, 2014
ogunaofor: My brother you are so pathetic , buying into all those porkies they tell you at CE, so gradually you are accepting she may have filed for divorce. She does not have to go to a media house to announce it, the press make it their business to find out for your information. If you care google the law firm Attwaters Jameson Hill, they have the info on their website and on their facebook page.
Very simply if there were no divorce issue, why hasn't your pastor chris sued the living daylights out of the media houses for slander or something along those lines.And you saying he'll give her 100% what he owns when he allegedly can't give her his attention. I understand your blind follwership shaa, that's how Jim Jones got all those people killed. I just hope at the end of the day when this blows completely open you remain in faith and that you don't top yourself, I tire o.
Keep your prayer or hope to yourself. The media have written worse about him and he didn't sue them because the media do not count. It is not his style and she shares the same philosophy that is why I could already tell the stories were lies before he refuted it.

You on the other hand, the ungullible one took all the media had to say hook, line and sinker to the point that when they switch position you follow suit without noticing the obvious contradictions and contradistinctions between all the various positions they have taken.

I mean they said he doesn't give her attention and they don't live together; they haven't even seen for 16 years. Fine. Now in her so-called "lawsuit" she claims she cannot keep "living" with him and how she's uncomfortable with the relationship he has with his female members of staff.

I mean no prizes in spotting the gazillion contradictions in the quote above- that is if your bitterness will let you see them in plain view.
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Terrible Scandals Of Pastor Oyakhilome, As Wife Claims Adultery by Eruditor: 5:00pm On Sep 09, 2014
4C2215131: Are you implying a "born again sinner" is in right standing with God and can make heaven on his/her passing on? Kinda hard to swallow me think.
There's is nothing like Born Again sinner. You are either a sinner or you are born again.

The question is who is a sinner and who is born again?
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Terrible Scandals Of Pastor Oyakhilome, As Wife Claims Adultery by Eruditor: 4:59pm On Sep 09, 2014
OLAADEGBU: In other words, you can live like the devil after you've accepted Jesus Christ as Lord. undecided
Why would I receive a new life from Christ and then accept the base life of sin that I was born in and not getting blessed by?
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Terrible Scandals Of Pastor Oyakhilome, As Wife Claims Adultery by Eruditor: 3:57pm On Sep 09, 2014
OLAADEGBU: It is heretical to teach and believe that Jesus suffered in hellfire according to your doctrine.
It is also heretical to teach and believe that the sins (adultery/fornication) committed in the body does not affect your righteousness in the spirit.
Jesus went to Hell, but not to suffer. He went there to collect the keys of Hell and of Death from the one who had it- the devil. He also set free men of God in the OT who could not yet go to heaven because Jesus had not died and resurrected.

Jesus went to hell as the son of man (not as the son of God). Son of man means he was man's representative to God.

As per sin and what it can do to a Christian, it can affect his relationship with God (from the angle of sin-consciousness). It can make demons disobey you. It can cause sicknesses and diseases to fasten themselves to you. It could lead to death BUT it cannot change a man's righteousness in God because God gave that as an unmerited gift- free of charge on accepting Jesus Christ as lord.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 3:32pm On Sep 09, 2014
lanrefront1: I never said she is not generous. That also doesn't mean she will not see to her financial need. Or is she going to be living on water after she leave the Ministry? She has not done any secular work since she married Chris. is it now that she wants to start.

Please stop twisting everything. She will want to be taken care of. She's a woman used to a certain standard if living.
Smh. She's well taken care of by God and will always be. There's no divorce. Deal with it
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Terrible Scandals Of Pastor Oyakhilome, As Wife Claims Adultery by Eruditor: 3:29pm On Sep 09, 2014
OLAADEGBU: This is where the problem lies... cool
Enlighten me from the scriptures. Let us see what is heretical and what is not.

I am already here wondering why Jesus had to die when we were better of obeying the ten commandments to be or remain saved.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 3:08pm On Sep 09, 2014
lanrefront1: don't jump to conclusion of saying the reason she filed there is that she wants to take 50 percent of his wealth.

There maybe a genuine reason like: she's been living in UK for 16 years, its definitely more convenient for her to file over there. Just imagined if she tried to file in Nigeria. She will be eaten alive with the intensity of animosity.

also she will definitely want to be take care of. I won't want to believe that she'll be demanding for 50 percent of his wealth.

But sha, time will tell.
She wants to be taken care of? grin

I wish I can tell you about monies that she has given to help many women and children around the world. You would faint I tell you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 3:04pm On Sep 09, 2014
coogar: what do you mean by what changed?



if she's been staying in the UK for more than 5 years, she would have been granted citizenship by the virtue of her rights. if she's a citizen then she can file in the UK. the only reason she would be doing that is to take 50% of pastor chris' wealth.

the UK is the divorce hotspot of the planet.
She's been there for more than 14 years both in and out. But on the 50% stake if they were to have a divorce (which is impossible) he will give her 100% of what he has without even going to the court and she knows this.

The man has no life of his own. The fine suits he wears have deceived many.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 3:00pm On Sep 09, 2014
lanrefront1: This man, you really are impossible. it wasn't a general teaching. He was specifically taking about the divorce issue between him and his wife.

After he had finished with question a.d answering session, he began by saying " “I heard that some media houses –
especially in Nigeria – are writing
some things against me. All sorts
of frivolous charges, that’s crazy,”
he said. “

So please stop treating us as if we don't have brain to reason with.

What he was saying was quite clear: that divorce is wrong. Christians should take each other to court for divorce, but sometimes you have no choice about it because someone is taking you there.

So in essence, I don't believe in divorce, I'm not filing for divorce. Its my wife that filed for and has taken me to court, so I have no choice in the matter.

My goal anyway is to say even prove that even Pastor Chris himself admits that his wife has indeed filed for divorce, and stand here saying there is nothing like that, that it's just a figment of imagination and fabrication of the press.

You really jare impossible.
I am not impossible. You are hell bent on believing what you want to believe because when a man has made up his mind to hang his dog any thread will do.

Look at who wants to impress me with the fact that he has listened to the message yet you ignored the aspect that said "Everything the media said is All frivolous".

No wonder Jesus spoke in parables.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 2:53pm On Sep 09, 2014
pickabeau1: Your response is noted

Are you saying Rev Anita did not file for a divorce
I am yet to see it and he is yet to say he was served. I know they wedded in Nigeria and she's not a citizen of UK so I fail to see the logic behind her filing for the suit in the UK to begin with. Also, I know her well enough to say SHE CAN NEVER EVER EVER SEND any lawyers to any media house in Nigeria (if per adventure, the divorce suit is true and I highly doubt it) so when I see PREMIUM news said this, Vanguard said that etc. I can already tell it's all bogus.
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Terrible Scandals Of Pastor Oyakhilome, As Wife Claims Adultery by Eruditor: 2:47pm On Sep 09, 2014
Oh dear o dear. . . .

So this thread is because people believe that Adams sin was greater than Christ's sacrifice and as such when someone was in Adam, regardless of what good thing he did he remained a sinner but when he became a new creation if per adventure he sinned he immediately became a sinner again, needing to be re-saved?

Okay ooo.

I have to then assume that you who didn't believe in the heretical messages of the MOG have 100% sinless christians in your midst like the one's who were not accused of (and later confessed to) stealing 100Bs of Naira from the banks that they owned.

I see.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 2:30pm On Sep 09, 2014
Demainman1: THE MAIN REASON FOR THE DIVORCE IS that

Rev Anita can no longer have children and Chris is desperate for a MALE child (African mentality). They tried prayer, it did not work. They tried medical, it hasn't work either, hence Pastor Chris started playing away match by sleeping with all those small, small girls.

He will marry another woman immediately after the divorce to achieve his aim.

My people, do not be in a hurry. All will be relieved in court in due course.
May God have mercy on you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 2:29pm On Sep 09, 2014
Gombs: i also searched the suit number on the UK judiciary site and didnt get a search result...let's assume sha that she sued him for divorce... where the hell did the media get "adultery" from?
There are dogs in our midst. They came in to look for loopholes to sell to the world. They think it is a new thing that Pastor Anita isn't always around so they figured it might be an issue. They decided to play with the story because badbelle Nigerians will always believe anything that brings another man down.

They have been selling this story since but it has been floating up and down. It is not new. The only reason they feel they would have a field day is because Pastor Chris never ever responds to the media. In his own words "they are not a factor".
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 2:23pm On Sep 09, 2014
lanrefront1: I was right when I said something is not right with your sense of reasoning. She is not seeking for divorce, the media told us that?

Even Pastor Chris during the said communion service had said so. He indicates that he was indeed in the process divorce proceedings.

Here is is excerpt from his speech below:

"So when journeying, doing the things that
God called us to do, Christians should not have a divorce; it shouldn’t be but you see, that doesn’t mean a Christian may not
take the step. “They may do it but
[they] have to make things right and
we shouldn’t take one another to
court. But when it happens, not that
we don’t just want to go, it means
someone is taking us there."

Abi this one too na media? thank God we've also watched with our eyes on YouTube.
What did he mean? That service was a communion service and he didn't teach on only that aspect. Please listen to someone who has known him over the years.

He has taught consistently on how divorces are not from God let alone taking another Christian to court. But if for example, PFN sue him will he not have to go to court even if it is against what he teaches?

That's a general teaching. The man said Christians are not to go down the divorce line but it doesn't mean some will not go down that line. The fact that they have gone doesn't make it right for it is inconsistent with the teachings of God.

Now tell me that his wife of more than 21years doesn't know this aspect of scripture that she would now first of all file a lawsuit and then tell her lawyers to go to the media and tell them about "Adultery and inappropriate relationships with female members". Please tell me how so.

I told you that the man is so anointed to the point that any mistake he makes can cause him to die on the spot. If you people could only understand.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 2:13pm On Sep 09, 2014
pickabeau1: I'm getting confused..
Ok..so is rev Anita a woman of God in her own right or not ?
She's a woman of God just like Timothy was a man of God. But Paul got a direct call from God while Timothy was 'called' directly by Paul. So if Paul is told not to get married, Peter should not say Paul is fake since God allowed him to. Each man should mind his affairs and not meddle in other people's matter.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 1:46pm On Sep 09, 2014
aitiola: Are you actually a christian or a member of CE,why all this poo from people who are not even scripturally grounded.How would you say God did not call his wife and shes been heading one of your largest branches in the UK for almost 15 years.

People like you are the reason why unbeliever say jack shit about Christianity. How can you be so blind to see that this person is the VICE PRESIDENT OF YOUR MINISTRY and God did not call her.....Pls delete your account on NL Abeg. People like you should not even quote me.

So your Pastor is a man of God and the wife is a woman of the devil for seeking a divorce...If the wife of your pastor is not a woman of God so who are you sef.
She is not a woman of the devil and she is not seeking for a divorce. The media told you that, not her.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 1:44pm On Sep 09, 2014
pickabeau1: I would agree with this but that is where the similarity ends

He is guided by God -- his words

Why will he appoint her to help found and run the UK branch if she is not called?
Why let her write a devotional that touches people lives if she is not called?
He didn't say anything about his wife. In general just because a man is called of God does not automatically mean that the wife was called too. For example, a man can decide to sell the only car in the house and use the money to meet a need in Church. His wife, who may not be called will not understand why and it may lead to a minor quarrel.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 1:37pm On Sep 09, 2014
lanrefront1: this guy, something wrong with your sense of reasoning.
The suit which Reverend Anita filed is already in the publuc domain. Among several things, it says the marriage has broken down beyond repair, and you say the wife is not hurt. where are you from. the divorce suit is in the public domain and I'm yet to hear the law firm representing Rev. Anita come ouy to deny that it wasnt the suit they filed.
why do you like living in self-denial.
Imagine if someone says I hate PDP because Tinubu is the head of the party. What would you say to the person? Will you say "I understand why you hate PDP- I hate Tinubu too?" Or will you say "Do you mean APC, because Tinubu is unrelated to PDP?"

Pastor Anita didn't file any suit. I don't know where you got it from. Please check the suit number and please bring it out for us so that we can see and believe. Also tell us when she sent her lawyers to go to PREMIUM, SUNNEWS, ENCOMIUM, Sahara, Cable news and what have you because the Pastor Anita I know CAN NEVER go to the media.

Then when you are done, be truthful with yourself and figure out if you reason at all.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 12:30pm On Sep 09, 2014
aitiola: Na by force say make she dey UK they pastor...Christ Embassy no dey naija ni...you people should be realistic joo and start asking questions.

Why didn't Baba Adeboye send his wife to Pastor the church in Europe or Bishop Oyedepo s wife to Canada....Tell your Pastor to bring back his wife to live with him under the same roof and the devil wont find a space to fill anymore.

This na confirm info.This seasonal marriage cos of ministry nor dey work and God does not support it.My wife is under my roof where i live,i am a music minister...ladies tempt me when i go out to sing grin grin grin grin but then i go with my wife and when i don't,i come back home to daily reload grin grin grin grin grin. So no time for yeye temptation.

Obviously, they are guiding the details of the ministry so that others wont have the details.....God will never give you an assignment that will frustrate your marriage.God is not wicked,it is only men that are so so greedy.Park well abeg.
Adeboye and Oyedepo don't have the same calling with Pastor Chris, same way Paul did not have the same calling with Peter and co. Paul wasn't married at all and the rest were.

Instead of you to be donating unsolicited advice to the Pastor and his wife. Just pray for them (her especially) as she may be going through a challenge that is unknown to you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 12:26pm On Sep 09, 2014
shdemidemi: We are not here to exegete the book of Corinthians. You are deviating now, if we must go into the book in detail I advise you open a new thread for that.


29 But let me say this, dear brothers and sisters: The time that remains is very short. So from now on, those with wives should not focus only on their marriage.

From this translation, do you now understand the verse you quoted does not support what chris was allegedly accused of?
We have shifted again. What is he accused of and by whom?
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 12:25pm On Sep 09, 2014
aitiola: So the wife and children are the overly emotional individuals you were referring too...Una dey read bible at all....Must the wife be the Vice president by force...abi na family business...why cant Pastor Chris bring her back to naija so she could be with him and someone else can pastor the UK church,dis thing no be do or die na and no be family business.
If you have a successful ministry and a failed family,na total failure ooo,u cant pass one and fail one...so the idea of my ministry is bigger than my family na big big bull shit.Please re-process whatever you hear from your pastor abeg....u don make me vex.
His wife and Children are not hurt. You people who know little are the hurt ones. How many Pastors who stay with their wives still got divorced? Why didn't the staying together save their marriage?

This man and his wife have been this way for 15 years and they still made it work because God knows how to make provision for the one's he sent.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 11:59am On Sep 09, 2014
shdemidemi: My bro, use a simpler version and more importantly read in context. Even around the verse you wrongly quoted, you will realise the reason why Paul was writing the letter to them.

25 Now regarding your question about the young women who are not yet married. I do not have a command from the Lord for them. But the Lord in his mercy has given me wisdom that can be trusted, and I will share it with you. 26 Because of the present crisis,[i] I think it is best to remain as you are. 27 If you have a wife, do not seek to end the marriage. If you do not have a wife, do not seek to get married. 28 But if you do get married, it is not a sin. And if a young woman gets married, it is not a sin. However, those who get married at this time (Can you see that?) will have troubles, and I am trying to spare you those problems.

29 But let me say this, dear brothers and sisters: The time that remains is very short. So from now on, those with wives should not focus only on their marriage. 30 Those who weep or who rejoice or who buy things should not be absorbed by their weeping or their joy or their possessions. 31 Those who use the things of the world should not become attached to them. For this world as we know it will soon pass away.
I don't think you understand this chapter as much as you think you do. What is the present crisis he is referring to? He said the women should stay unmarried. How does that help them?
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 11:52am On Sep 09, 2014
GLOBALX: Pastor Chris cannot leave the assignment God gave him just to satisfy a few 'overly' hurt emotions shocked. Somethings some minsters of God do will look crazy to the natural man who doesn't see with the eyes of the spirit.... shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked.So his wife and children are the "overly hurt".....Do you even know what you are saying at all....Must the wife be vice president of the church by force?can't someone else take that position so she could be with her husband?.....Abi na family business?...if u fail family wise u don fail be dat ooo...no fail one pass one.Make una they re-process anything wey d man talk now....haha...u don make me vex
You and your ilk are the overly hurt emotions that are few in number. This man and his wife didn't start ministry work yesterday so you don't have enough experience to teach them.

I have told you repeatedly that all the divorce nonsense and accusations are just figments of the medias imagination but you would rather believe the media over him and his wife.

I also told you she didn't go to any Cablenews, PREMIUM, Sahara etc. But you still won't listen. I don't know what else to say to you people. For a month plus this man has been with his children in Canada. That's how he meets with his family (privately) but the media that knows close to nothing will not tell you that.

What if I tell you he has seen his wife at least 3 times this year will you believe me? No. But you would take Sahara's news that he is having inappropriate relationships with female members all because you want to give a dog a bad name so that you can hang it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 11:26am On Sep 09, 2014
shdemidemi: The Corinthian book was addressing believers within a notorious city that was known for brothels and immoralities. It was not a book addressing pastors or men of God. If you must know what the bible thinks about marriage, go read the book of Ephesians.
Do me well and show me any part of Paul's writings to the Corinthians that suggests he made such a proposition based on the immoralities and brothels in the region. Also, point me to the exact teaching in Ephesians about marriage that you feel the MOG doesn't apply to his life.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 10:55am On Sep 09, 2014
1 Corinthians 7:29 GNT

What I mean, my friends, is this: there is not much time left, and from now on married people should live as though they were not married;


Boy, these people are not willing to listen to the truth and would rather the lie was true just so that they could feel that everyone is at the same level.

The reason he said they didn't mention any Apostles wife's name in the bible is because the bible played more emphasis on the ministry work than on family.

Pastor Chris cannot leave the assignment God gave him just to satisfy a few 'overly' hurt emotions. Somethings some minsters of God do will look crazy to the natural man who doesn't see with the eyes of the spirit.

He is the husband of one wife, a father of 2 beautiful daughters. All the stories being peddled are blatant lies.

I can't count the amount of times he has had to call people by (2-4)AM of the early mornings and I wonder when or if he ever sleeps. That's how busy he is- probably busier than the president.

This man doesn't come to church, teach, pray and go home. He is not a preacher. Sometimes he could be left alone for days just fasting and praying to God for people. He is a MOG.

I wish you could see how dark his knee knuckles are because of constantly kneeling in deep prayers and groanings. He didn't call himself; God called him.

I will never wish to be a MOG like Pastor Chris. The work is too difficult. How he copes, only God knows.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 11:29pm On Sep 08, 2014
What part of EVERYTHING the media fed you with is a lie don't some of you understand?

What part of there is no divorce saga, no adultery accusations, no relationships with workers nonsense don't some of you understand?

Did Paul and Timothy have the same calling? God called Paul personally while Paul raised Timothy a Pastor. The type of pressures Paul will withstand for the gospel is different from what Timothy might be willing to stomach before caving.

That's what he meant by "the fact that God called a man doesn't mean the wife received the same call" so he understands his wife's challenges and has asked us to pray for her as we do him.

I believe some of you just want to believe he did what the media claimed just so you can justify some of the senseless statements you have already made.

A wise man sees danger ahead and finds refuge but a foolish man will trudge on and will pay for his disobedience.

I am warning again.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 4:37pm On Sep 08, 2014
Boss13: I have read your epistle and you have failed just like the leader of your organisation has continued to fail to convince both me and the general public. I have always been sceptical about your leader. I have nothing against him as a man but as a religious leader - Sure I do. A man who see his family "once a year" fails in his duty to uphold his family duties. I understand your leader is passionate about spreading the message of Christ and as we can see his passion has paid off. However, there are so many reasons to doubt the credibility of your pastor/leader like -

- Payment of fees to enrol into miracle/healing school
- Staged/false miracles
- Indecent dressing e.t.c
I will respond to you only once and there after I will heed Gombs advice and back off.

If you can provide any evidence that he at ANY time asked anyone to pay a fee to enrol into the healing school I will give you 1M naira.

As per staging miracles, it is so easily to believe anything when you don't walk in the same power. Pastor Chris is known to have healed many people from the 80s to now and many of them are still very much around. If he has been staging the miracles you super-intelligent Nigerians should have caught him red-handed by now. I can call three names that can qualify as bourgeois of the society in Nigeria that have benefited from the healing grace on his life and you would explain to me how much he can pay them to stage manage being healed.

I am even going too far. I can reel out names of Cell leaders and PCF leaders in secondary schools and universities who have healed deafness, dumbness, even Epilepsy by the name of Jesus. Maybe they are stage managing too or na?

Lastly, when you talk about indecent dressing you have to tell me whether he dresses women up or tells them what to wear or whether you have seen female Pastors in the ministry that are indecently dressed? Or are you referring to wearing trousers as indecent clothing and if so between them and skirts which one covers women better?

Don't be a hypocrite. Those whose hearts are pure see things as pure besides, the church is for people who need help and not for perfect people. I know you would rather send people out of your church if they are not dressed to your specifications so that you would gratify your flesh and let their Spirit's and soul's rot as a result.

Some others don't think like you. They believe the word that goes into you will then grow out of you and would first change you from within before changing your flesh. I have seen those who wore turtleneck tops, long skirts and jump up trousers steal company money, rape young girls and indulge in fornication. Yet they looked like saints in their respective churches.

To be carnally minded is death man. Grow up.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor:
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Unlike what is being peddled about the man I can tell you without flinching that he doesn't not have many mansions and Jets like other MOG (Not like I am saying it is wrong). In fact, I can tell you that he has ceased to receive a salary from the church as long as I can remember and he does not (I emphasize the does not) receive a dime from the sales of any of the books sold by the ministry- including the world renowned Rhapsody of Realities. My cousin in Ebonyi works with them and she told me this. Also, if you know any member of CEC that has been there for long they will tell you. The man preaches faith and he practices it contrary to what the media may want you to believe.

Somebody said "so how does he prosper?" Oh simple, God prospers him. I have heard other Pastors like Joseph Prince and even Bishop Oyedepo say the same thing- that they do not receive a salary from their respective churches and have applied the faith they talk about to prosper and I believe them.

Speaking again of Pastor Chris, he has taught us severally that Christians should not take other Christians to court (we should instead let ourselves be cheated). He has taught us how that divorce should be a no no and how that by just applying what the word of God says to you, you would be able to resolve any marital issues that may arise.

If you read the OPs post with a pure heart you would have understood what he was saying. He wasn't saying that Pastor Anita is not a woman of God or what not. He simply said that because a woman's husband was called of God does not automatically mean that she too was called. He said this after saying that EVERYTHING the media said were laden with lies and conjectures of dogs who crept into our midst to cause disunity.

If I am to give my personal understanding of the matter, I will say that the pressures of working in the ministry may have taken its toll on her and she must have gone on some recess. I am guessing so because the work of the ministry is challenging indeed. I have had to rebel in time past (and refuse to go to church even though I still studied my bible judiciously and prayed regularly while at it). I felt the pressures of just being a christian (and I am not even a Pastor- not even close). Even Elijah felt the strain and Paul at one point prayed to be delivered from persecution. So it can happen to just about anyone.

That's why when Pastor Chris speaks parables those of us that are initiated can understand. I am sure he would love to go on such a recess but he cannot afford to if God doesn't approve. I have heard him say if he had his way he would just be a regular member of a good church but the God who called him owns his life and as such he can only do what God askes him to. That's the Pastor Chris I know.

There is a Pastor in the ministry who was to be posted to Houston to be a VP of Chevron's operations but when he sought the approval of his MOG and he got a "God doesn't need you to go there he can do it for you anywhere you are" the man immediately turned down the appointment. Chevron then asked him if he would take the position but will instead stay in Nigeria whike at it and he agreed. There is another story of another man who was an MD of a bank or so in the early 2000s. Pastor Chris told this man that God wanted him to be a Pastor and the man obliged but after consulting with his family members he turned down the proposition. In about 2 years time he made a little mistake that cost him not just his job but his licence to head or work in any bank in Nigeria. Prof. Soludo (the then CBN governor) was responsible for dishing out this punishment on the man. As soon as that happened the man immediately rushed to register in the ministry's school for Pastors. 5 years later (in 2009 or so) he was ordained as a Pastor. If you know anyone that attended IPPC in 2009 they would recall the man giving his testimony albeit it sounds unfortunate.

I said all that to say that Pastor Chris is very much aware that such "departation of glory" can happen to him if he as much as goes to India when he is supposed to go Indonesia. That's how sensitive to the things of God that he is. So try to convince me how this same man would be found committing adultery. That's why he told the church (and members of the media that would have hidden themselves covertly) that he is not a preacher but a MOG: he does ONLY what God tells him to do.

Now he has implored us to pray for his wife as she recovers from her recess. That she will come back stronger than ever; in greater manifestations of God's anointing and full of faith. That she will not lose her vigour for her first love- the lord Jesus and the preaching of the gospel etc. And that she would be delivered from wicked and unreasonable people who do not have faith.

If you are not mischievous you would see a bunch of contradictions from the stories being peddled by the media- the same media that will not investigate their stories well before publishing it. First they said they have not lived together for 16 years (1999-2014 is barely 15 years). Secondly they said she has not been in church since October 2013, later November and now December. Thirdly, they claim she filed for a divorce yet (this same media already said they had been divorced many years ago but covered it to save face). Now they have started spicing it up with Tales of Adultery and him disrespecting her in public (I wonder how they see in Public when they haven't even seen in 16 years). All these stories are lies I tell you.

Pastor Chris and Anita are extremely private people. Pastor Chris doesn't talk to the media and as a result they always end up making quotes for him and attributing them to him. Pastor Anita on the other hand will never go ENCOMIUM, PREMIUM, SUNNEWS etc. Either in person or through her 'lawyers'. They didn't do so when you called them fraudsters, they did not do so when you took their programmes off TV, they didn't do so when you accused them of laundering money and they sure would not do so now. In his words "I don't want you to know me or my personal life. Just know about Jesus for he is the one I seek to introduce to you". The man reeks of humility.

So fellow brethren, don't lose your cool because of the words of those who do not know where we are coming from or where we are going to for they haven't been trained not to speak concerning a matter before it's time. Instead use this opportunity to lift Pastors Chris and Anita up in prayers as instructed by the bible even as we walk in love.

It is by so doing that we show that we have the same attitude of Christ who, though he was the son of God; thought it not robbery to be equal with God yet he made himself of no reputation. And even though he was found in fashion as a man (and was reviled, insulted, accused falsely and condemned) he didn't respond in like manner but he humbled himself and commended his traducers to the one who judges rightly- God.

As for those of you who joined us to spy on our liberty in Christ and then use it to falsify stories, beware as there will always be a time of the harvest when the tares will be taken away and burnt by God's angels (so we know this is not referring to the rapture) while the wheat will grow. Jesus told us to expect it.

Lastly, for those of you who spoke on the matter without understanding it (especially christians) please go on your knees and ask God for forgiveness. I know of some journalists that did so in time past who ended up eating thrash from the garbage because the same anointing that can unstop deafness and cause the lame to walk can also work against those who stand in the way of God's move.

I am not threatening. Just passing some warnings out of love for all men (especially those of the household of faith).

If you see any typographical errors please forgive me as I was in a hurry. Maybe when I am settled I would make corrections.

Cheer up brethren! The word works.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Addresses The Whole Media Hype And Lies by Eruditor: 2:41pm On Sep 08, 2014
I know alot about the MOG Pastor Chris Oyakhilome and his wife not just because I have been a member of his church for a very long time but because I have asked questions from people who have been here longer than myself and have known him too, on a very personal level.

I must say that without a doubt he got a definite call from God to take God's divine presence to the nations of the world and demonstrate the character of his Spirit. It is with this vision that the MOG ran with that started out as a fellowship and developed into what you have of it today.

The man fears God (in a reverential way) not just because he is a christian and one called into the 5-fold ministry but because the anointing on his life is very tangible such that it could kill him if decides to walk contrary to his calling- which is to walk in love, righteousness and true holiness as is expected of a man of God- one who Pastors a very large followership world wide.

It is for this reason (and many others that I may mention should time afford me) that I know without a doubt that the prevarications and fabrications of misled individuals some of which are Christians are only done under the inspiration of demons who want to strike the shepherd so that the sheep will be scattered.

Before I say anymore, let me talk about his beloved wife, Rev. Anita Oyakhilome. I have heard her husband say to Winnie Mandela in South Africa that she's of mixed decent as her Dad is an Edo Nigerian while her mum is from Switzerland. She, like her husband gave her heart to Christ at an early age. While I may have lost the exact age she was when she became born again her husband gave his heart to Christ at the age of 9 and both have been that way ever since.

She's one of the founding members of the ministry that began in the early 80s and has a specific grace in the areas of establishing and nurturing churches; mentoring mothers and wives and infact women in general. She also functions in a very tangible anointing from God and if you have ever met her you would feel it without her saying a word.

Pastor Chris (if I am allowed to say) worships the ground she walks on and she does he. She loves and respects him and he does too. They are very private people and have never been known to go to the media let alone divulge personal issues to them. So anyone believing in those lies about her lawyers going to PREMIUM news or Vanguard or what not are doing so at their own peril. It is not just her style.

I have a friend (who used to be on NL but has ceased to do so in years now) who drove Pastor Anita to the airport in 2001 when one other minister in Nigeria was criticising her husband. In the course of the journey, he decided to engage her and ask her for her opinion on the matter. He had heard her preach about the love of God and turning the other cheek to persecutors but somehow he wanted to know how she really felt. He said she was saying a lot of kind things about the man and concluded that the power of God will shine forth from such a situation. That's the Pastor Anita I know.

She started a church in Ojo, Agboju area (close to Alakija) and was able to change it from a former warehouse cum spare parts garage to a world class facility before 1999 when she got a different assignment. She did this in about 3 years with the help of many son's of Consolation as are prevalent in our ministry. How they procured the property and developed it into what it is today or how they have grown many satellite churches in and around that region is another days talk but the current Pastor of that church, Shola Olubode is a testimony to her grace.

It was in 1999 that she was given that assignment by her MOG (who happens to be her husband too) to go to the UK to help establish the church that was just burgeoning at the time. There's nothing more to say about that as the evidences of her grace is known to all who seeks the truth. She has taken what some may have referred to as a Ram shackle years back and turned it into what it is today and she has established many other churches around Europe and even part of the Americas.

Pastor Anita and Chris have always found time to see and train their Children together regardless of the pressures of ministry. I know this because apart from his words I am friends with a couple of people who know him to the point of walking in and out of his abode at will.

There was a time when one of their daughters all of a sudden could not walk and Pastor Chris kept speaking the word of God to her even when there was no physical change. He told us how he would have to travel and would tell his wife to keep speaking the word when he is away saying to the girl's legs "you would walk, you would run, you would jump". To cut a long story short, one day, the young girl shocked her parents as she leaped out of the car and ran to him when he took them to a mall.

I know of another time when he took his wife to Switzerland on their wedding anniversary. The workers in the hotel didn't recognise them till someone divulged the information to them. On the day they checked out, the whole staff of the Hotel including the management came to bid them farewell. But you would not know all this because it is not on the news.

I am aware that atleast once every year he travels out to spend time with his wife and kids (not only when Church programmes are on schedule) and I know that Pastor Anita is always in Nigeria (especially during IPPC) in November to see him amongst other things. My younger brother has helped in the white house (where the President of CEC stays) and on many occasions he ran into Pastor Anita. Besides, the names that were touted as "unmarried women working with him" is another vicious lie from his traducers.

The White House as we know it was built by the ministry and has various facilities suited to the ministry. The most important aspect of it is the Studio that Pastor Chris uses to host some of his question-answering sessions. If he had his way, he would never travel out of Nigeria and would rather preach from his studio. That's why I laugh when see posters calling him a gallivanter and saying he loves to travel around the world.

Pastor Deola Phillips (the outgoing CEO of CEC) and the present(the Medical doctor) are both women of God who have been in the ministry for more than 23 years. They are married women with Children and they are fully dedicated to the work of the ministry. It is wicked and insulting to regard them as "girls or part of Chris' itinerary" as if they are new. These women also love and respect Pastor Anita not just as a senior Pastor but as the wife of the president of the ministry.

I will continue shortly. . .

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