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simsing:
what is Islam contributing now to the world ?
Mohammed taught you to do good and you chose to do bad and refusing to admit your wrong doings abi?

As Jesus taught uyou to do good and you christians do bad too.Have you forgotten Rev King so soon,T.B Joshua and the likes with their rituals, Rev Coren who burnt a whole church members to death,Popes killed by your clerics back then when they were jostling about who becomes Pope, the child abuse commited against innocent children by your Catholic priests and Nuns etc I ask you again is that what Jesus taught?

falopey:
You are telling me that you are not learned in history. You can't distinguish between political event from religious matters. Colonization, apatheid, world war. All of these were political and not religion. Non of them was carried out in the name of Christianity. Nobody said he was doing that for Jesus like Muslims claiming they are doing what muhamed and islam teach them to kill so call infidel and westernized Muslims like you. In fact bh are the true Muslims by Quran standard, strick adherence to islam by hate. Continue living in the past to justify the atrocities of your present bh brothers. This is 21st century.

My brother we have posted a lot of artrocities that you allege muslims of time without number how they are found in your bible but non of you has ever said anything about it because you know what we quoted are there in the bible,that's why I mentioned event that happened some years back. You only pretend not to know the role the church played when the events played out.What do you mean by political event?Is a known fact that the church always act from the background.You that is learned about history,did you not read that when Slave Trade wanted to be roled out by the europeans it was the Christian missionaries they first sent to wherever the collonial masters wanted to collonize?You didn't know that the missionaries rubber stamped it?The gruesome murder by the Christian Crusaders of muslems in their thousands during their so called Holy war in Jerusalem was a political event too abi!?And that of the moslems killed in their thousands in the former yugoslavia just because they were moslems was political too?You don't know they all have a religious undertone. But when it concerns muslims you quickly ascribe it to religion and not politics.Look at hypocracy

asadike:
thk u my brother, tell them. How can we even compare the two religion? How do we compare light with darkness. Who doesn't know that wayo man mohammed, what atroocities did we not see in him. Rape? He is there, incest nko? He be baba. What of murder? He gat award there. Demon worshipping? Mohammed took d first position. Look at d kind of thread that seun placed on front page? If not for christian missionaries, will these internet Muslims have d opportunity to go to schools and hospitals? Even d demon allah is far below christ. Almost all d good things we enjoy today comes from christianity. What has Islam given to d world? Imagine the world without christ, then imagine d world without allaha, and tell me your findings.

Its obvious that you lack information about Islam and Muhammed(peace be on him)that is why.But pls it we be nice if you go and find out about muhammed and Islam from Islamic authors it will do you a lot of good.I bet you if you do your impression about Muhammed and Islam will change positevly.
In respect to contribution of Islam to the world civilization please google the internet and you will be informed.Please try and be sincere and help yourself with the right information.God Bless you

folafola:
Islam means submission to the will of Allah and Sallam means Peace.
The law was fulfilled in Jesus and then there is no more room for killing
500 years after jesus had left Muhammed came with his message of killing and he claimed he was directed by Allah when he was frustrated. Why will God command his servant to kill after Jesus had abolished killing?
Muhammed led a terrible and horrible lifestyle all written in haddith and quoran but jesus led a sinless life.
Mohammed was possessed by demon and he spew out those controversies called quoran
It was written down by his followers after his demise and that accounted for many lost scripts.
Holy spirit is the helper of a true Christian while sword is the solace of a true Muslim
Devil wanted to use Mohammed to destabilize the gospel of peace according to jesus but he failed woefully. Jesus is the word of Allah
Jesus is a saint
Jesus is the way
Jesus is almansiu
Jesus is alive
Jesus is peaceful
But.....
Mohammed killed
He had sex
He snatched wive
He led war
He even said he did not know what will befall him at the judgement day.
Why must a reasonable person follow Mohammed?
Irregardless of your hate Jesus reign supreme
He is my Lord and Saviour
Why has Mohammed not encountered any one in history but Jesus had encountered many and he still does I pray he will encounter you as you read this in Jesus name.

Jesus abolish kilings and after he left the Christendom yet has record high killing among themselves and also against non christian in the world history.So the church didn't know that Jesus had already abolish killing.
Talking about the fact that God inspired writters of the bible.So your God inspired your bible writers too write about the hundreds of senseless killings,rape,rituals,cannibalism,incest,slavery and contradictions in the bible.
Talk about when your bible was written you will be shocked to know that the too was written almost 600 years after Jesus left and that's why the bible is full of flaws like contradictions when rendering account of what happened during the life of Christ because they were not eye witness to the events.Some of the verses you have in the new testament were copied from the old testament word for word(Plagarism)
Talk of Muhammed not knowing is fate on the they of resurection.A true servant or prophet of GOD does not rely or boast of his work/ righteousness but rely on the mercy of God to inherit the kingdom of God.There several places in the Quran were God has promised him Paradise with whoever belived in the message he was sent with and work righteousness but your must humble yourself before the Lord almighty.That's why jesus said no one is Good except the Father when he was called the good master.Does it mean that Jesus doesn't know he is Good?
Talking about Muhammed acknowledging jesus to be the messiah.All prophet acknowledge each other because they are brothers in faith and they don't condemn one another.Muhammed acknowledge all the prophets before him just like prophet Jesus acknowledge all the prophets before him and also fore-told the one to come after him(Muhammad)peace be upon all of them.Confirming the prophets and scriptures before you is one of the criterea to know a true prophet of God.
Talk about Jesus been the messiah.Yes the confirmed it that he is the massih(the anointed) by God because that's his title.Mind you every prophet of God was giving his own title by God.But let you know this fact that if Muhammed was not a true Prophet of God all the this things the Quran confirmed about all the prophets and saints male and female wouldn't have found in the Quran he would jst be praising himself.But the truth is,he is not the author of the Quran.Prophet Jesus is coming back to refute all the blasphemy about him and he will put the record straight to the world that he his not GOD but a son of man and nothing more than that and also a true servant of God.Remember he has not complete his mission and that is why is coming back to clear every wrong believe about him(crucifiction,sonship,divinity,his true scripture,fight the antichrist along with the true believers in One God).We are waiting!

BERNIMOORE:
have you accepted the fact that quaran was a problem even instruction muslims like shekau to kill fellow hypocrites muslims?

I dont believe that jesus is God almighty, but a servant and seperate person that God loves and adopted as his son just the way i can claim my brothers son as mine

as for marriage issue, create a thread on that and lets get foccused on this issue that

[size=14pt]Bible never instruct anyone like quaran to SLAY[/size]

Please cover your face in shame because you have just displayed that you are ignorant.Pls go and read this passages in your bible that commanded slaying people.
Chronicle 15v12-13
Deut 13v13
Deut 22v20-21
Romans 1v24-32
Ezekiel 9v5-7
Jeremiah 48v10

jmoore:
Some folks are really crazy. Instead of you to stop brainwashing of terrorists in your hood, you are busy fooling around.

Only a demon will accuse Jesus.

You are jst the ignorant here,with your above expanation that jesus has put an end to violence and killing.Yet the Irish catholics and the Eglish christians predominantly prostestant were killing bombing each other in the 20th century.Have you forgotten the World War l and ll by your Christian brothers which record the highest massacre in the world history?Are you aware of the mass killing of Muslims in their thousands by your serbs and croates christian brothers in the former yugoslavia?Have you read about the thousand of Muslim men,women and childre killed by your Christian Crusaders in Jerusalem all in the name of Holy war? Are you people not the worst Terrorist now?Your bible says my poeple perish due to lack of knowledge.

falopey:
Come on! Stop saying what you don't know. Muslims terrorists are killing muslims as well because they believe other Muslims are not practising what they believe to be real islam by affiliating themselves with westernization as complained by boko haram. And for coexisting with other people of other faiths. Just like how hausa muslims see Yoruba Muslims as fake. Why will other Muslims not condemn them when they have started killing some of their own. How many Muslims condemned boko h when they started by bombing churches and Christians. A lot of Muslims then were sympathetic to the course of bh (islam).Now their mad dogs have turn on them now. Let them not condemn. Some years back. A friend of mine in my neighborhood asked one aboki shoe maker why boko haram was attacking schools. He answered that it's because they were teaching the students bible. Now that bh is attacking "fake" Muslims (because that's what they term other Muslims that embrace westernization, Muslims now started condemning. Where were they before? Hypocrisy

Just the way the fake christian of today are not practising what their fore fathers and the europian churches practice by killing millions people all the name of collonisation,apatheid,world war 1and ll.Pot calling kettle black.

Caseless:
look at how this hypocrite succeeded in turning this very-direct verse on it's head.
Do u people consider the context in which some verses were revealed in the qur'an before you jump to internet, pick them up, and read them literally to antagonise muslim?
Don't let me come up with more dangerous verses in the bible.

KILLINGS IN THE BIBLE
Deut 17 v12
Exod 22v17
Lev 20v13
Lev 20v27
Exod 21v15
Prov 20v9
Prov 20v20
Lev 20v10
Exod 22v19
Chron 15v12-13
Deut 13v13
Deut 22v20-21
Lev 24v10-16
Romans 1v24-32
2Kings 2v23-24
Isiah 14v21
Hosea 9v11-16
Ezekiel 9v5-7
Jeremiah 51v20-26
Jerem 48v10

RAPE IN THE BIBLE
Deut 2V10-14
Deut 22v28-29
Deut 22v23-24
Deut 21v10-14
Exod 21v7-11

CANNIBALISM AND VAMPIRE
Deut 28v57
2Kings 6v28-29
Ezekiel 39v18
Isiah 49v26

SELF MUTILATION
Am still waiting any christian to practise this

Matt 18v8-9
Matt 5v29-30
Matt 19v12

These are jst few of the artrocities you find in their bible and yet they still open their stinking mouth to spit out rubbish against other religion.I wonder if they study their bible.
The next thing you hear from them now is that those bible verses aabove are in the Old testament and not in the New Testament but if they see what suit them from the same old testament you see them quoting there.If you christians don't believe in the Old testament and their Prophets then remove it from your Bible.Then we will see if your bible will be complete without the old testament.Am convince you can't do that because you would have gone the law. Which says must not Add or Remove a word from the bible if not you will be inviting cause upon yourself.if God can reveal these LAWS to the prophets in the old testament does it mean Almighty God did not know that LAWS are EVIL before he gave them.Remember you christian still proud about the Prophet who brought these Laws
Also I want to remind u that Jesus He Came To Fulfil The Laws of MOSES and not to ABOLISH Them.If you claim JESUS did not subject you laws of Moses then you will not make heaven because a man came to Jesus to ask him what to do if he wants to make HEAVEN, JESUS said he should keep the COMMANDMENT of GOD for him to have ETERNAL LIFE.You christians can see now that the killings you allege the QURAN are numerous in your bible in fact more than the QURAN.Now I will advise to go and pick up a copy of the Quan and carefully if you will not be surprise to see that where it was instructed that Muslims fight and kill unbelivers came with Conditionality that the muslims fight those who kill them first to defend their religion and to be free of Opressions.Again God instructed the muslims to figtht the none muslims who live in the Muslim land but refuresed to pay taxes(jizyah)and yet they enjoy every protections and rights from the muslims Govt.We all know today that you can't be in europe or america without you refusing to pay tax because if you do you will be charged for tax evation which is a jailable offence.But you still see critics of islam today criticising islam unecessarily today when those allegations about islam are readily playing out in their religion too.please christians go and read about the life of Prophet Muhammed very well and you will be forced to acknowlegde Muhammed peace be on him.I am very sure majority of you have not even seen the Quran let alone reading it before you pass judgement.In the same vain please study the Quran and try to read the commentries below for tou to have a better understanding of the Quran then you can now pass your judgement about Islam.But I bet you if you do you will be forced to change your wrong perception about Islam.There and then you will no that Islam is the most Victimized religion by the Western Nation to perpetuate their dominance on muslim because see as a treth their Evil Mechnism.In fact a true Muslim doesn't hate christians but only differ with him on some partinent issues of Doctrine which should not be taken too far but be debated or argued out constructively afterall the similarities between the two religion are even much more.The Quran never support Terrorism in anyway so if you see a terrorist he his either an Agent of Properganda against islam by some groups in the world who have resolved to employe any means to dominate the world.you and I think they are Christians or Muslims but infact they are not. They have their own ideology which they want you and I believe unconsciously.Thats why you see a terrorist claiming he his fighting your cause is at the same time killing those he claim he his fighting for.The world will soon know who the true terrorist are because we are getting there already is just a matter of time the truth shall prevail.However anybody can keep a contrary views the different issues discussed here but do it with utmost civility and respect for others and Please leave GOD to be the judge because he knows better than we all.Salaam(Shalom)Peace.

esther1994:
What do you call the son of human? Son of human is human, so son of God is God my dear. Stop insulting and hating words. Just listen to your heart.

Pls read your bible well and you will know that a man cannot be God.
Numbers:23 V19 Says
God is not a man that he should lie neither a son of Man that he should repent.......

BERNIMOORE:
jesus allow his 12 disciples to carry only 2 swords only to fufill a prophecy and not a direction for christians or believers, but warned them never to strike with sword

why did he even permit them to carry sword? because jesus must fufill an earlier prophecy in book of isaiah 53.... ''what is written about me is being fulfilled'' he will allow possession of sword but would not strike or permit anyone struck another by sword . and record justifies it that jesus never permit use of sword

◄ Matthew 26:52 ►

52 Then Jesus said to him, [size=14pt]"Put your sword back into its place; for all those who strike with the sword shall perish by the sword[/size].


This cannot be said about about quaran Surat Al-'Anfāl (The Spoils of War) سورة الأنفال http://quran.com/8/12 which directs muslim believer to directly behead, cut off, slaughter and strike a perceived umbeliever (God have mercy)

Surat Al-'Anfāl 8;12
''so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."

jesus teaches LOVE, but Muslem directly teaches slaughter;....

You see how u christian reason like babies

Jesus knew he was to fulfil the prophecy about him to die on thy cross abi!Then he needed not to have instructed them in the first place to go get sword for themselves. the question is what is the relevance of the Sword he ask the disciples to get when he knew he would not allow them use it to strike anybody.The simple truth is that he doesn't have the moral rigth to chastise anybody who striked his captors becos he was the one who asked them to get the sword for themselves.
The same way claim that Jesus agreed to offer himself to be crucified to attoned for your sins and yet the same Jesus who offered to Die to redeem your Sins was praying to God to remove the Cup of Death frm him.If truely he offered himself why was he praying to God to remove it.
As regard killing. Jesus said it in Bible that those who do not want his kingdom reign over them should be brought before him and they should SLAYED or KILLED before him.Luke 19 V 27.
Deut:17V3 also Deut:13V13, 2Chronicle:15V13 pls check.It also means that bible ask you to killing people and preaches violence too.your ignorance about your bible that you carry won't make you discover the fallacies,absurdities,contradictions and gruesome killings in your bible to bad for you people.

hoobs:
they are killing muslims bt Alshaabb came to a kenyan university and separated the Christians frm the muslims nd shot all the Christians at the spot nd left d muslims.............your hypocrisy is LEGENDARY!!!!!,u can not see evil nd call it evil.........ur a potential TErrorist!

Your reasoning is shallow becos you agreed that Al-Shaabab are killing Muslims and you couldn't give reasons why they are killing Muslims if they are truely fighting for Islam.They are killing Kenyas irrespective of their Faith becos Kenyan Military is Championing the War against AL-Shabab.Al Shabab are killing Somalians seriously inspite of the fact that 90percent of them are muslims.
This to tell you that they are anti Islam too.Why are true Muslims all around the world condeming the terrorist Group.The truth is the world is getting to know those groups behind these terror groups and the finger is pointing to your christian dominated country in the west the likes of America and his allies.

BERNIMOORE:
dont you buy knife in your kitchen? or cutlass for domestic use? but when you strike someone with it or command it be used to harm someone like quaran does it becomes a crime, do you get that?

where did jesus directly says this above post it here!

Oga learn to read ur bible well ok.

Luke22V36 that's where he instructed his disciples to sell their Robes Or Clothes to buy SWORD if they don't have one because it was abt the time the Roman Soldiers were lookin for him to be arrested.My bro instead of you to ask urself why would he tell them to buy Sword?

In respect to slaying of unbelievers

Luke19 V 27 Says:
But those mine ENEMIES which would not that I should reign over them, bring them hither SLAY(KILL)them before me.
Go study hard ok!

[quote author=eshbeewanna post=33093896]I can see ur hatred for muslims in ur rigth up its so evident but let me tell u one basic truth a person like you wouldn't accept the evidence u ar asking for even if they present it before u. It is obvious that u will come up with excuses again asking for something else.Anyway let me give you what u asked for and let me see ur comment this time around.
Quran2V190 Says:Fight. In the cause of God those who fight against you but do not transgress the limit for Godloveth not the transgressors.Allah even told them that they should not go beyond the limit during war against the unbelivers.Quran 9V6 Says:And if any of the unbelivers( who fight against you) seek thy protection grant him protection so that he may have the opportunity of listening to the word of God from thee(Muslims)ang there upon convey him to a place where he can be Secured.It so glaring that you forget things easily what did I tell you in my resonse to you earlier?I told u that the Quran is not a story book like the the Bible.Evey verse u see in the Quran was revealed as a result of event that occured but because you are ignorant about Islam you don't know this.We muslim know that you have to know commentries of every verse which we called( TAFSIR) through the Noble Hadeeth before u can understand the the Glorious Quran.You only think you know about the Quran,you are jst an ignorant chest beater.

Talking about knowing the Quran better it is evident in is action towards the Muslims that he is ignorant like you.The fact that you see a man dressed up in Muslem Robes,wearing Turban with Beard does not make an Islamic Scholar get right.In the same vain do I say those christian Clerics in the form of Crusader waging Holy war and killing innocent childre and women in their thousands in Jerusalem back then are Holy men of God?Since you christians are the Holy people on the surface of the Heart.It is a big shame on you that number of killings that happened on earth were caused by you.Remember the role the church played during slave trade,the World War 1 and 2,the war between England Anglicans and the rest against Irish Catholics for years killing each other etc.Whenever these Evil is going on the Church is there operating from the background and still point accusing fingers at the other religionmIf you are leaving in a glass house you don't throw stones.your new testament also said in. Luke 19V27 :But those my enemies(enemies of God) which would not that I should reign over them,bring them hither,and SLAY(KILL)them before me.
You have not read it before?

BERNIMOORE:
you failed badly again and cannot even defend yourself with quaran! i am asking again that your back up story that some people kill muslims thats why they were commanded to kill WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE QUARAN and was a concortion put together to cover-up exegical holes in quaran by some fettish alfaa onirungbon yeu-ke whose ankle must be visible outside their trousers , and who claims holier than thou exegesis,i quoted superior verse in the bible; Galatians precisely so tell me the surah what chapter and verse said what! chai you are hard pressed like going to toilet now, abi
.... you failed badly boy , had i known that you were not even versed in quaran.


why was the event not included in the verses of quaran? you can see that bible verses explain itself inside the same bible verses and not outside, no wonder you people have radical imams that traslate for almajiris stark illiterates because quaran is not self explanatory but a confusion what a shame

but boko haram knew more about quaran stop denying boko haram as true muslims, hug them,show some love to them because they are your partners in crime

which God? is it Allah ? tell me now that islam is a religion of peace and dogs will bark at you

I can see ur hatred for muslims in ur write up its so evident but let me tell u one basic truth a person like you wouldn't accept the evidence u ar asking for even if they present it before u. It is obvious that u will come up with excuses again asking for something else.Anyway let me give you what u asked for and let me see ur comment this time around.
Quran2V190 Says: Fight. In the cause of God those who fight against you but do not transgress the limit for God loveth not the transgressors.Allah even told them that they should not go beyond the limit during war against the unbelivers.Quran 9V6 Says: And if any of the unbelivers( who fight against you) seek thy protection grant him protection so that he may have the opportunity of listening to the word of God from thee(Muslims)ang there upon convey him to a place where he can be Secured. It so glaring that you forget things easily what did I tell you in my resonse to you earlier?I told u that the Quran is not a story book like the the Bible.Evey verse u see in the Quran was revealed as a result of event that occured but because you are ignorant about Islam you don't know this.We muslim know that you have to know commentries of every verse which we called( TAFSIR) through the Noble Hadeeth before u can understand the the Glorious Quran.You only think you know about the Quran,you are jst an ignorant chest beater.

Talking about Shekau knowing the Quran better it is evident in his action towards the Muslims that he is ignorant like you.The fact that you see a man dressed up in Muslem Robes,wearing Turban with Beard does not make him an Islamic Scholar get that right.In the same vain do I say those christian Clerics in the form of Crusaders waging Holy war and killing innocent children and women in their thousands in Jerusalem back then were Holy men of God?Since you christians are the Holy people on the surface of the Heart.It is a big shame on you that number of killings that happened on earth were caused by you.Remember the role the church played during slave trade,the World War 1 and 2,the war between England Anglicans and the rest against Irish Catholics for years killing each other etc.Whenever these Evil is going on the Church is there operating from the background and still you point accusing fingers at the other religion. If you are leaving in a glass house you don't throw stones.pls have you read this verse frm the new testament
Luke19V27 But those my ENENIES which would not that I should reign over them, then bring them hither,and SLAY (KILL)them before me.
Oya Nao explain

simsing:
u can only undastand the bible too if you read
it as well from old to new testament and not quoting out of context.
you try very hard to dispute what the Christians tell you no matter how hard they try.
yet you want them to believe your explanations when its the direct opposite of the practice in all your moslem world.

My bro stop your hypocracy some of the bible qoutes are frm the old testament and now u ar referring me to go and read the bible frm the ola statament.The same old testament you pple said is old whenever we giv u quotes frm there.You have jst confirmed my assertion that christians are always running rfm pillar to post when they are faced with superior arguement.You are still yet to give me answer to the fact abt the artrocities commited by the christians crusaders gruesome murder innocent children and women,kkk christian group,the world war 1 and 2 staged by the christian world and also individual school shooting in Americas,the pastor in U.S that burnt his followers all in the name of going to heaven they jst too much to be mentioned.May be its these bible verses that inspired them too.

But unfortunately he did not predict the collapsed biulding in his Church that killed several people.We know them they are always looking for cheap popularity.That was how he claimed he helped Ghanas under 20 team to win the world cup but unfortunately he couldn't help his country win the same world cup.Yeye dey smell

MrCcf:
They exploited the teachings of the quran, they exploited the injunctions of Mohammed.

You see ur mischieviousness, so they xploited the Quran to do evil abi!So it is the Quran that told ur churches to ordain Gay Bishops and ur Cathilic priest to practise Homosexual,lesbianism by the Nuns and also pedophilism.It is the Quran that asked them to engaged in World war 1 and ii abi!The truth is you christians will never be truthful no wonder Jesus called u pple wicked and adultrous generation matt 12 V 39Hypocrites

simsing:
first of all you that don't lack knowledge have you desern the propaganda behind your brothers killings, hypocrite.
Do you now want Christians to fight back or its the job of an efficient govt to destroy your moslem extremist calling on the name of Allah to justify the death of thousands.
Its too much for your blood sucking god Mohammed or Allah or both

Pls leave hate and try to be rational here I don't even think that u understand wat I said.If boko haram are true moslems and not a mischivious and misguided fellows why are the killing muslems and bombing mosques?The truth is its all about propaganda aginst Islam.Islam is against unjust killings against muslims and non muslims.Infact if u kill anybody unjustly hellfire is your abode accordind to islam.But I want to mention here that the prophet Muhammed prophesy that a time will come when we muslims will be seeing hypocrites committing excessess in the land in the name of Islam in fact it is one of the signs of End Time which are playing out now.We no they are not true muslims but because of their disguising nature they tend to Mislead some ignorant muslims take them to be muslims.Again I want to mention here that some of the atrocities commited by some christians here in Nigeria or anywhere in the world I.e Rev king,kkk group in U.S,Ira in Ireland etc doestn mean that Christianity preaches violence don't forget the Slave trade which was approved by the church in europe back then to dehumanised Black Race in the aspect of killing Blacks,rapping and torturing blacks.What do you have to say to that?

okpamson15:
foolish by urself. So God dnt know that when he wil creat eve it wil bring trouble to man kind. He go ahead an created eve. Reason it my boy.

What as eve got to do wit laws givin to moses dat u call sinful.Pls don't digress frm the point of discusion wat am sayin is if moses whom hav been certified by God thru Obedience to the commandment he gave him dat he is righteous man a prophet of God at thesame time. How culd u claim dat you don't need to be subjected to the which Jesus claim to hav come to fulfil and not to abolish them.Hav u read laws urself dat u called sinful remember dat law was givin to Moses by God Almighty. Remember mathew 5V27-28 for you to have eternal life u must keep to the commandment of God said Jesus to a man who came to ask him.

BERNIMOORE:
bolded is an afterthought and a cover-up, where can it be found in the quaran?nowhere i showed you Galatians 3:23-27New King James Version (NKJV) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A23-27

23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

can you see that the terrorist are justified using quaran with your analysis

You are very funny if u read my response to u before now you won't be askin me where it is in the quran becos I told u dat before u can understand the quran verses u must be adepth about the event dat lead to each verse in the quran.Quran is not a story book like the Bible.If you want knw go check the hadiths which will give u commentry on each verse in the quran.My bro u don't knw anythin abt the Quran am sorry.The verses I refered u to in the bible u av nt said anything abt it I mean the killing commanded by God.Are u saying it justifies the killings perpetrated by the crusaders?

MrCcf:
Op the fact that no Christian has taken up arm as a result of those quotations should tell your dumb brain that you are mis-interpreting the Bible.
Make and post here the list of top 10 terrorist organisations in the world, let cross-examine them and see which religion incites violence.
You people have been brainwashed from accepting the TRUTH that islam is the WORLD LARGEST TERRORIST MOVEMENT.
Don't forget Dokubo had to abandon Christian, take up Islam, had a special training in Islamic Revolution before he can form the deadly militant group in ND.
Don't forget your SHEKAU is an Islamic Clergy.
Am waiting for you to make that list and post here. If not, shame on you and your religion.

TOP 10 TERRORIST ORGANISATIONS IN THE WORLD
Monsters with an insatiable blood-thirst or rebels
with a cause? Mindless robots on a killing spree or
humans fighting for greater good? Most importantly,
patriots or terrorists?
The above questions have, perhaps, posed a
dilemma to numerous debaters and popped up as a
topic to think about deeply in discussions of
importance. Yet, one cannot deny that terrorists,
‘noble’ or otherwise, have caused an unthinkable
amount of suffering wherever they have set their
devious schemes afoot. Ranging from genocides to
making governments crumble to air raids and a lot
more, terrorists around the world have massacred
millions in the name of religion and so called ‘glory’.
While the sheer weight they carry is enough to strike
terror in people’s hearts, their actions have achieved
far more than just that! Out of all the numerous
terrorist groups operating in various ill-fated corners
of the world, following are the most lethal ones
present.
10. IRISH REPUBLICAN ARMY
A revolutionary organization in Ireland, it was formed
out of the Irish Volunteers (founded in 1913). The IRA
was responsible for waging a war of independence
against the British in the period 1919-21. The entire
war of independence was an extremely brutal affair
and there were heavy casualties on either side.
Having been trained as a guerilla unit, the IRA was
skilled in quick attacks and ambushes. With an end to
the war, the Anglo-Irish treaty was signed that
resulted in a split within the IRA- those that
supported the treaty came to be known as the Irish
National Army and the rest remained affiliated to the
IRA. A civil war followed as an inevitable result of the
rift and the IRA lost it. Ever since, the group has
remained in existence with the sole intention of
overthrowing the Irish Free State and Northern
Ireland in order to achieve the dream of Irish
Republic. The IRA have been responsible for
numerous car bombings and assassinations
(including the assassination of Lord Mountbatten in
1979).
9. NAXAL/NAXALITES
Deriving its name from the village of its origin,
Naxalbari, in West Bengal, the Naxalites are mostly
associated with the Communist Party of India
(Maoist) or the CPI-M. At present, states like
Chhattisgarh, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Jharkand, Andhra
Pradesh have also fallen victim to the growth of this
group. Their origin lies in a violent uprising that was
led by Kanu Sanyal in 1967 to redistribute land to the
landless. Their efforts were spurred on by Mao
Zedong, the then chairman of the Communist Party
of China, who said that the Naxalites should
overthrow the government and upper class people by
force. In the post-1970 era, the Naxal movement had
gained a significant impetus, so much so that
students from reputed colleges in Calcutta were
dropping out of college in order to join the
movement. Their aim was to assassinate individuals
of great power and incite a civil war. In the year of
1971, the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi had
launched Operation Steeplechase (of which the
Indian Army was a part) which resulted in the killing
of numerous Naxalites and imprisonment of even
more. At present, though reduced in number, the
Naxalites still continue to operate, killing policemen,
civilians and security personnel. They had been
branded by Dr. Manmohan Singh as the “biggest
threat to national security”.
8. BOKO HARAM
A militant Islamist group in Nigeria, this group is
known to receive funding from Al-Qaeda. Extremely
vocal about their intolerance towards western
education, Boko Haram had recently been in the
news for the abduction of around 200 Nigerian girls.
Boko Haram literally means “western education is
sin”. Boko Haram has been alleged to have on their
hands a 5000-civilians kill number between 2009 and
2014. Boko Haram, originally founded as a Sunni
Islamic group, have been advocating the extremely
intolerant Sharia law in places of their stronghold.
Threatening to overthrow the government, which
they as becoming extremely open to the western
culture, Boko Haram is known to spread terror by
killing people who indulge in non-islamic practices,
eg drink alcohol. The founder of the sect,
Mohammed Yusuf, had said in an interview that the
theory about the Earth being round should be
rejected as it had been propagated by the west. An
incapability on the Nigerian government’s part to
deal with their growing militancy, Boko Haram has
also been responsible for bombing the UN
headquarters in Abuja in June, 2011.
7. FARC
Forças Armadas Revolucionárias da Colômbia or
FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) was
formed in the 1960s. They claim to be an army of
peasant Marxist-Leninists with an ulterior motive of
anti-imperialism. Kidnapping, extortion, illegal
mining are regular activities of FARC. The
government of Colombia recognizes FARC as a
terrorist organization along with many other North
American, Latin American and European
governments. In 1962, the Colombian government,
acting on US findings, had mobilized groups of
civilians to work in cooperation with the army in
countering the threat posed by FARC. This was Plan
Lazo that had been set into motion by then Special
Warfare commander, William P. Yarborough. In 2002
it was found out that the IRA and FARC had an
understanding in between them- the IRA had
received almost $2 million, resulting from drug
trafficking, from FARC. FARC has been attributed with
numerous killings, bombings and assassinations in
Colombia and have been tagged as one of the world’s
largest drug trafficking organizations in the world.
Although at present they are not as violently active as
they once were, FARC still remains a threat to
Colombian security (as had been
6. HEZBOLLAH
A Shia’ist militant group based in Lebanon, they are
considered to be more powerful than the Lebanese
army. Founded by Muslim clerics (speared by
Ayatollah Khomeini) the Hezbollah was founded
mainly to counter Israeli occupation of Lebanon
(1982). Their objective was well defined in that they
wanted to expel any sort of western presence
(especially American) from Lebanon, along with
western allies. Hezbollah is known to receive training
and funding from Iran and is also backed by Syria.
The 1983 bombings on the US Embassy in Lebanon,
the Lebanon hostage crisis from 1982 to 1992, the
London Israeli Embassy attack in 1994, the AC flight
901 attack in 1994 in Panama, and many many more
terrorist activities have been credited to this terrorist
group.
5. ISIS
The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria is a Sunni jihadist
group based in the Middle-East. With an aspiration to
mobilize the majority of the Muslim population
under its control, the ISIS has their stronghold in
Iraq, Syria, Palestine, etc. Alleged to have committed
acts of great atrocity and blatant human rights
violation, the ISIS has grown significantly in the last
few years and is currently known to have almost
80,000 fighters in its ranks in Iraq and Syria together.
In numerous raids by the ISIS civilians, including
kids, have been killed. They are known for their near-
inhuman treatment of civilians which includes open-
firing on civilians. The ISIS has not been foreign to
allegations of sexual violence either. Their recent
actions have prompted USA, UK, Germany and many
other countries to launch various operations aimed
at infiltrating their ranks and combating their
growing insurgence.
4. TEHRIK-I-TALIBAN
Also known as the Tehrik I Taliban Pakistan, it forms
a part of the various Islamist groups that are active in
the Afghan border in Pakistan. Their objectives
include overthrowing the Pakistani government,
battling the NATO forces in Afghanistan and
enforcing the Sharia law. Led by Maulana Fazlullah,
the TTP is not directly affiliated with the Taliban (in
Afghanistan). The 2010 Times Square car bombing
attempt was an alleged undertaking of the TTP. The
TTP has claimed responsibility for numerous attacks
that include suicide bombings, bombing of UN offices
in Pakistan, attacks in naval and army stations of
Pakistan, etc.
3. LASHKAR-E-TOIBA
One of the most notorious groups operating
presently, the Lashkar-e-Toiba is most infamous for
the Mumbai attacks on the 26th of November, 2008.
It was responsible for the deaths of numerous
civilians and it left the nation scarred. Alleged links to
the secret service of Pakistan, the ISI, had resulted in
a blatant breach of sovereignty (although the
Pakistani government disowned any involvement).
The 2001 attack on the Parliament of India was also
carried out by the same group. With an objective to
introduce an Islamist state in South Asia, the Lashkar-
e-Toiba has also vowed to liberate Muslims residing
in Indian Kashmir. They have also been known to use
children, aged 13-14, from impoverished sections of
the society to spread their terror activities. Bombings
in Delhi (2005), bombings in Varanasi (2006), the
Mumbai train bombings (2006) and numerous other
activities have been carried out by LeT. What is even
more shocking is that Saudi Arabia is an alleged
sponsor of this group.
2. TALIBAN
The Afghan chapter of the Taliban, known simply as
the Taliban, are omnipresent in illicit activities.
Ranging from drug trafficking to human trafficking,
extortion,etc. they have an annual revenue of almost
$400 million annually. An Islamist fundamental group
in Afghanistan, Mohammed Omar is the founding
member and has been the spiritual leader ever since
its inception in 1994. The September 11, 2001 attacks
on the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New
York was carried out by the Taliban. The Taliban has
its origins in the struggle against the Soviet that the
US carried out on Afghan soil. The Taliban was
mobilized by the USA (and trained by ISI) in order to
liberate Afghanistan from the clutches of the Soviet
Union. Alleged to have been the perpetrator to some
of the most heinous human rights violations (ranging
from ethnic cleansing, raping women, etc) in
Afghanistan (while in power) the Taliban are certainly
one of the most deadly terror groups in the world at
present.
1. AL-QAEDA
Founded by Osama Bin Laden, Abdullah Azzam and
other militants, the al-Qaeda’s objective is to unite
the Muslims across the world in global jihad and a
strict interpretation of the Sharia law. The al-Qaeda is
a Wahhabi organization. The al-Qaeda had a role to
play in the Spetember 11 attacks, the 1998 US
embassy bombings and the 2002 Bali bombings.
Although the death of Osama Bin Laden has proven
to be a setback to their operations, they are still the
deadliest among all such groups in the world. Their
characteristic way of carrying out missions is to
employ suicide bombers or execute suicide missions.
Their attacks are also known to be sectarian in
nature. The Ashoura massacre and the April 2007
Baghdad bombings are testimony to that fact. The
1993 bombing of the World Trade Center was also
carried out by al-Qaeda. They are known to be
extremely influential and have been alleged to own
several aircrafts including Boeing 727s and executive
jets.
www.listovative.com/top-10-most-dangerous-terrorist-organizations-in-the-world/

In as much I want to commend you for the piece of information atleast you tried not to be biased tumb-up for you.I still want to bring it to your notice that the Number one Terrorist in the world is America and his allies.these so called terrorist group in the muslim world were at one time Americas pals. The simple truth is that the so called Super power Created them and the end of the day they couldn't control them anymore after using them for their own selfish reasons.In the past Binladen,Saddam and some others were americas puppet you remember the btw Iran and Iraq,america was supporting Saddam against Iran. During the time of Shah of Iran he was Americas stooge until it atrocities led Revolution in Iran which led to his exile.Thereafter Iran became americas enemy jst because they don't want to be their puppet anymore.Also the same Osama was supported by America against Russia when the going was good during Russia-Afghanistan war. The same thing played out when the U.S wanted to capture Osama they quickly palley with Presdent Musharaf of Pakistan who was a military dictator then but funny a enough they agaist Abacha's govt at that time just because he was a military ruler but his counterpart in pakistan even got millions of dollar grant frm the so called U.S govt you see that. The whole needs to wake up frm their slumber to knw who the terrorist is.Americas and its allies are the problem of the world.The 3rd world countries are just victims of circumstances.Edward Snowden as given the world an insight about the U.S

MrCcf:
Op the fact that no Christian has taken up arm as a result of those quotations should tell your dumb brain that you are mis-interpreting the Bible.
Make and post here the list of top 10 terrorist organisations in the world, let cross-examine them and see which religion incites violence.
You people have been brainwashed from accepting the TRUTH that islam is the WORLD LARGEST TERRORIST MOVEMENT.
Don't forget Dokubo had to abandon Christian, take up Islam, had a special training in Islamic Revolution before he can form the deadly militant group in ND.
Don't forget your SHEKAU is an Islamic Clergy.
Am waiting for you to make that list and post here. If not, shame on you and your religion.

And tompolo, Boyloaf and others.Ignorance is a disease.Shekau is jst an ignorant like you that is why is killing innocent souls.Simple logic couldn't tell u that a knowledgable Cleric won't be doing what he is doing just like the foolish Cleric in America who bunt himself and his hundred of his church members some years back.

simsing:
why should they leave them alone. tell me why?
so that they grow to become a bokoharam group and destroy their peaceful country abi
they know what is happening to Nigeria ,Libya and co. they are not slowpoke

Your bible says my pple perish becos of lack of knoweledge. You christians jst talk any how the boko haram that you mentioned are killing muslims in the north and you can't even discern the properganda behinde it.Are u not the slow poke now.Once again pls seek knowledge and u will be set free.

BERNIMOORE:
you are diverting from the topic having been defeated, do you have a clarification to surah verses in the quaran that instruct muslims to kill? NO read this clarification inside bible again

Galatians 3:23-27New King James Version (NKJV) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A23-27


muslims are the problem of the world today

I haven't I was respondind to anoda person bro.Now let me answer ur question.the verse u quoted. U can only understand the quran if u know what lead to the verse.Let me xplain it to you God instructed Muslim to kill the known belivers then who were underminig islam then because they collude with the enemies of by killing Muslims first and even they sign peace agreement wit they were the first brake it.Therefore Allah instructed the muslim to kill them too because enemies of the state of islam and they are ready to stop at nothing but be killing Muslims with there allies.If God ask you to kill your enemies that are killing you is there anything wrong in that? Afterall we many non muslim among the muslims then who where not killed but enjoyed protection from the muslims.Go and read the commentry of that verse u will understand better .check bible luke 19V27 and Matt10V34. These bible verses talked about killing unbelivers and sinners too.

balaclava:
OP... u cannot understand no matter d explanations given to u. If we start from now till tomorrow, u still will not grasp.

1 Corinthians 2: 14-16
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

Understanding this subjects will only come from a mind of Christ which obviously u don't have. Therefore no need for exposition Cos u just won't get it.

I pray your eyes be opened soon.

Oga your bible says Come let us reason together.The moment you pple know u can't win an arguement u resort to spirituality and u leave sound resoning.

simsing:
what are you saying, now in the western countries once you bear Arabic names, or u convert to Moslems or you are Muslim immigrant, the authority will start keeping a surveillance watch on you cos u a potential killer. the few you said are converted are brainwAshed to go and fight with Isis and alqeada

That is what they have programme you to believe.Anyway the same Christian US Govt will not leave them alone because of their OilYou may like to know that the world Problem is caused by these Christian Nation through there policy of Intrest. If the us doesn't trust an average Muslims they should stop running after them for frienship.

BERNIMOORE:
Thank you for picking these verse out of the bible, i believe that you want to learn,so

lets pick The bible verses one by one and compare to quaran before we decide who it applies to



who was directed to kill homosexuals LEVITICUS 20:13? Definately not Christians, and lets read who the message was directed to;


The message was strictly for children of isreal and NOT BELIEVERS. this cannot be said about surah 1;123 which was rightly directed to believers (of islam) and so gave room to the terrorist adopting it to justify their crime. read;



[i]''O you who have believed'[/i]' is an open statement that the terrorist adopt and they have the right to adopt it since the quaran did not specify a boundary of which it applies except forcefull denials without backing from muslims, since you want to learn let me show you how bible explain that to us that we christians are not under old law through moses(torah) but rather believers only through 'faith in christ' and NOT according to law(torah)

Galatians 3:23-27New King James Version (NKJV) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A23-27


and why we have the record of killings by isreal in christian bible has been answered above in galatians 3:23..24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor

any objection?

Your response is not knew to me christians are always running from pillar to post.However have you read about the Christians Crusaders and their Holy War are they not Christians backed by your Pope,bishop etc go read about there artrocities they committed agains innocent Childre and Women back then in the Jerusalem.How blood of people they killed in their thousand all in the name of Christ almost filled the crusaders up to their knees.My brother go read.

simsing:
Keep your enlightenment.
I can as well go on and on of how Muslim fanatics kills innocent pple from ages past.
we want peace in the world today.
Islam brainwashes simple people to commit crimes in the worst way possible. What kind of god do you worship.

Just the same way they programme you believe everything you see and read about moslem on the media. You have not for once ask youself that if these things they make us believe about Islam are true why people converting to islam at alerming rate in the US and Europe in general. The simple truth is that they have discovered the propaganda of the Christian world about Islam which have made them move away from life of ignorance to enlightenmenmt.They were once behaving the way are doing now back then

simsing:
how many christian kill Muslims in the 21st century or are groups like bokoharam, Isis and alqeada killing for Jesus?

My friend pls go and make reserch and and the truth shall set u free.So you don't know that all these Groups you mentioned were created by your Christian led US Govt and their Christian AllIED Group if not why are the Terrorist Group you mentioned killing Muslims if they are true Muslims.There is more to what you see than you discern.Hello go and think and read it will help you ok

simsing:
@op, are you trying to say that boko haram is using biblical text to commit crimes. then I think something must be wrong with your mind.
Dont they refer to themselves as Muslim extremist and want to convert west Africa to a Muslim state?

with all those text u listed out of contest from the bible, how many christian go around killing with impunity, didn't u ask yourself
stop trying to justify the wickedness committed by your brothers, and try harder to convince us that its a religion of peace indeed.

The war engageg by the Crusaders in the name of Christianity,the PKK Christian Group in the US,the Rev King of Nigeria, the christian Lord Resistance Army in Africa
The Hiroshima Bombing that killed thousand of pple in Japan was perpetrated by your Christian U.S Brothers. Rememer Slave Trade in Africa by your christian brothers from the Western World do you how many of our Black Brothers that were killed on the High sea enroute Europe your Church was involved.How about Apatheid in South Africa was it not your christian Brothers.They are just too numerous to be mentioned.Go and read you would be enligthened.

dcaliph:
a million naira question, also I would like to know if jesus was God during the time of moses?

You have answered your question if Jesus was not God at the time of Moses he can't be God at any other time bacause the Nature of God is that HE His EVERLASTING.Mark you Jesus always refer to himself as Son of Man in your Bible.pls check Mathew8V20 18:V11 Luke9:58 Mark10V35-45 Infact Jesus call himself Son of Manin the Bible more than 60times in the New testament.

KwoiZabo:
The law of the Spirit of life in Christ sets us free from the law of sin and death. Romans 8:2

JESUS LAW OF SIN
Do not think that have come to the World with PEACE but SWORD.Luke:12V51 Mathew10V34