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I am yet to believe this conjecture. I still need some kind of reaction to this by the supposedly involved persons. That God some of them are still breathing.

First off, i tried accessing the link provided, but to no avail.

My question here is, if the intention of creating this SS was to give the Igbos some breathing space, why then do we still have a large considerable chunk of Igbos and Igboid groups in the SS, especially in Rivers state?

It seems to me that some things aren't just adding up. Anyway, i need to google more to verify some stuffs.

Onlytruth:
Even if I can do it, people will group me with Becomerich when I post the data!

Maybe you need to get the stamp of seun to make yours more credible than Becomrich who had been posting his own personal unverifiable population estimates and satellite images. lol.

Quite some good points you made there, Ibime. Why set up 'tourism' centres were there are no security. Surely, some of the criminal 'pipeline' laid to siphon off the treasures of Delta state.

asha 80:
So you believe the population of igbos is more than yorubas?i thought you guys think it is the other way round as many yorubas will disgree with you.

No, quite a few of them are sincere and not influenced by bigoted prejudices. I've met a handful of these open-minded ones myself who have admitted to this fact.

I somehow believe that the true figures of Nigeria's ethnic composition really exist somewhere, probably in some kind of safe in the presidential villa, with the President and quite a few group groups of state security operatives treating it as highly classified information.

This could explain why some people from certain parts of the country are supposedly not allowed to be part of the state security or involved in the country's intelligence gathering bureaus.

The National ID scheme that was undertaken by Obasanjo contained details that specified people's sex, age and local governments of origin. These sets of data could easily be processed, and used to determine these true population figures that are needed for proper national planning.

But just like it's been already pointed out, one should not ignore the security implications of bursting the bubble of this closely guided secrets.

We only need a President with a strong personality to change the status quo and still be able to manage the potential chaos that might be perpetrated by those who are reaping bountifully from this misinformation. And this has to be done, really.

Jarus, is there a way you could talk to this nairalander called fstranger/stranger on why he should not be insulting igbos in almost all his posts all over the forum? other ethnic groups hardly recieve this kind of negative attention here. Please, i'll appreciate how you can help in this regard.  P.S. I also noticed that another nairalander does that same thing. Goes by the moniker Cork

Ibime:
Katsumoto

Does he know any other thing apart from the Biafran War?

jason12345:
not to criticise ohanaeze but as i said 3 wks ago, its either they made the decision because bribe or out of forwardness.

I'm sure you farted this out of your ar.se. Can you defend this anywhere.

Musiwa aka becomrich

DapoBear:
Even if Arab culture was more developed than African culture, what does that have to do with the Fulani? Which math or science did the Fulani learn from the Arabs, or teach to Europeans?

Usman Dan Fodio was successful in implementing his jihad and building an empire for himself and his descendants. But that doesn't particularly suggest that Fulani culture was advanced.

Also, it is only in Nigeria that the two groups have become one. Elsewhere in Africa, they are distinct.

Do the fulanis have a culture of their own? No. So that means adopting the arabian culture means having a developed culture. The system of numbering used today in the world at large was learnt from the arabs.

^^^

The Fulanis learnt a lot from the arabs, and even lost almost all their own cultures in the process.

Is the arabian culture not more developed than most african cultures? They've long understood basic concepts in mathematics, astrology and medicine. Even the europeans had to learn many things from them.

@DapoBear

I think they still feel fulani. Seems to me that professing Yoruba among this ruling class sometimes turns out to be a liability. I recall(though not vividly) of a would-be Emir who was rejected because he had a Yoruba middle name.

The fulani culture, and by extension the larger Hausa-Fulani heritage, is a very strong one. And by comparison is a more developed one than the Yoruba's. So the Hausa-Fulani folks(who are pseudo-Arabs in my books) would be hard to Yorubanized when they come in contact. This explains why the Yorubas picked up a lot of customs from them.

So i wouldn't think that the theory of other peoples being influenced by Yorubas is true in this case.

DapoBear:
It isn't by force that one must be Yoruba. But at the same time, there is no reason for a Fulani from Mali to be ruling Kwara

He claims Yoruba when convenient, disassociates when inconvenient. I'm fine with either choice, but want some measure of consistency.

Let him pick very well which identity he wants.

The Fulanis had been ruling Kwara ab initio. So what difference does it make if one of them with a Yoruba first name is still ruling?

Onlytruth:
lol. So who is stopping you? Just don't go with any part of Igboland. 

As for a middlebelt/southern minority union, I dey laugh o!

I'm sure that folks like Peter Odili in the SS wouldn't be a part of that after they schemed him out of the vice-presidency. They successfully convinced Yaradua that Odili was not a part of them. He could have been President today for pete's sake!

Ibime:
Shebi Uwueche told us he consulted far and wide, yet his youth wing are telling us this stories. WIYC is the only group who didn't collect money to endorse their candidate. The rest of em are thieves.

You must have been present in all their meetings to know this.

DapoBear:
I'm glad Saraki was denied. Serves the jackass right.

He doesn't feel Yoruba. Must people force it on him? He might have checked his history and found out he's of fulani descent.

jason12345:
just shut up!!!!!!!! i am tired of akin -egba aka mekus aka malu-brain saying he is yoruba. you are not yoruba.[size=13pt] i know that you are an igbo man trying to bad-mouth the yorubas[/size]. the only surprising think is that you can stoup this low to smear an ethnic group.

@Jason12345

Dont you think you were a bit presumptuous here?

@OP


The Yorubas are a tiny minority in Kogi and Edo. While in Kwara, Saraki had alluded that he and many folks in the state have a fulani ancestry, but have been heavily Yorubanized over the centuries.

So i think you need to get your facts right.

What i dont get is, are they trying to produce their own consensus candidate? I mean like SS/NC consensus candidate committee.

I feel that this clique aimed at portraying themselves as minorities may somehow backfire in the long run.

They might want to count Niger, Kwara, Nasarawa and Niger states out. I dont think these see themselves as minorities, since they seem to enjoy very symbiotic correlations with the dominants.

^^^


Is ChinenyeN = 1025?

I see this lawmakers being sent back to dust their english textbook as they learn the difference between recurrent and total overhead costs.

A former commissioner for
agricuture and natural resources
in the defunct Bendel State,
Eddy Ehi Osifo, has criticised the
Senate spokesperson, Ayogu Eze,
over his reaction to Central Bank
governor, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi’s
recent comment on the high cost
of running the National
Assembly.
Mr. Sanusi had, at the 8th
convocation ceremony of
Igbinedion University, Okada, last
weekend, alleged that the
National Assembly alone
consumes 25 percent of the
nation’s annual budget.
Mr. Osifo, a close associate of
late Obafemi Awolowo,
described Mr. Eze as being
ignorant of simple English
language, as was used by the
CBN governor in explaining the
portion of the budget that goes
to the National Assembly.
“The CBN governor did not say
that the National Assembly gulps
25 percent of the national
budget. There is a difference
between the national budget,
which is the TOTAL budget, and
recurrent expenditure, which is a
portion the budget as
represented by the overhead
cost of running the government.
“Ayogu Eze is typical of the
deceitful Nigerian who uses
crooked arguments to cover up
real facts. This is unbecoming of
an honourable member who
claims to be an experienced
lawmaker. Nigeria is suffering in
their hands,” he said.
Mr. Osifo called on President
Jonathan and all concerned to,
as a matter of urgency, review
the monthly salary and
allowances of the national
legislators before a new set of
legislators are elected and
sworn-in next year

www.234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5647744-146/edo_politician_defends_sanusi_over_assembly.csp

^^^
They should not be making any endorsements independently, and without consulting their elders.

This is why i described them as clueless youths.

The adoption of former Vice
President Alhaji Atiku Abubakar
by Northern Political Leaders
may trigger a North/South divide
in the country as the minority
ethnic nationalities, especially in
the south/south geo-political
zone are set to do the same to
counter the northern action.
The South/southerners, THISDAY
gathered in Yenagoa over the
weekend, are already aligning
with the minority people of the
middle belt area who believe
that the northern action is
capable of setting the nation on
an ethnic collision.
One of the organisers of the new
agenda which meeting is planned
for the 15th of December in
Benin said the action of the
Adamu Ciroma committee will
not go unchallenged.
“We are to meet our brothers
from other minority ethnic
nationalities in the South/South
and Middle Belt area before
Monday next week for the
general meeting in Benin on
Thursday. Our meeting is being
summoned basically to have an
appraisal of recent political
developments in the country as it
affects the presidential primaries.
“ You know that the Middle Belt
and other ethnic nationalities
apart from the dominant Hausa/
Fulani in the north as well as the
south- south share common
pains and aspirations; so what
we intend doing is to continue to
remain united and ensure that
we are not provoked needlessly.
“I say this because, perhaps,
Mallam Adamu Ciroma and his
colleagues who are canvassing
northern presidency today might
not know the greater import of
their action; it shows clearly that
there are some who are more
important than others in this
country.
“Painfully, we learnt that
although the committee
acknowledged Bukola Saraki as
the best candidate for his
credentials as young and
dynamic bridge builder, he was
considered a Yoruba man, so he
was denied.

www.thisdayonline.info/nview.php?id=188891