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Igbos dont need Biafra

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=353489.msg4954032#msg4954032

The real truth behind biafra

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=552824.msg7181561#msg7181561

Murtala's arewa(later turned into biafran war history)

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=550563.msg7136576#msg7136576

Fela supported Biafra

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=550563.msg7136576#msg7136576

Awo admired Hitler-turned into biafra analysis

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=546678.msg7092823#msg7092823

Biafra issue

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=538204.msg7011157#msg7011157

Max Siollum on 1966 coup
www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=304950.msg7006902#msg7006902

Is Aba a reflection of Biafra?

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=522647.msg6998685#msg6998685

The coordinator of 1966 coup

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=516247.msg6922400#msg6922400

Balewa's death

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=529070.msg6914875#msg6914875

Fajuyi on our minds(turned into Biafra analysis)

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=515225.msg6789374#msg6789374

Another revelation on jan 1966 coup

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=513711.msg6761721#msg6761721

I have to kill Ibos-Benjamin Adekunle

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=507338.msg6716964#msg6716964

Balewa was not killed by soldiers

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=509015.msg6707803#msg6707803

Akintola(turned into analysis of Biafra)

www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=488532.msg6513446#msg6513446

@Katsumoto

About 3/4 of your posts are centred around Biafra-related topics, yet you come here to claim that you were being accused without facts. I've got nothing against you o, dont get me wrong. But I had to protect my reputation over my observation that I posted, and requested that they be proved.

Katsumoto:
Sure, move the goal posts when you are found out. You stated 'That's how far his brains can think' implying that I only contribute to Biafra/Civil war threads in agreement with factually inacurate statement made my EzeUche. Now that I have presented the facts, you change your stance. Besides I don't have time to discern what topics I contribute the most to; I leave that to you since you are obviously here to judge people. You are free to make any observations you choose but when you state them, ensure that they are based on facts otherwise it becomes apparent that your posts/observations are based on bad belle. Anyway, thats my final contribution to this digression.

You are just ranting. You are the one trying to change my stance which is, as long as you are yet to disprove it, that is where you are usually seen. Who care what you post in the child boards? It takes me several weeks to even check those boards. I only peep there whenever the main politics board is uninteresting.

I still maintain biafra issues are as far you can go. It is your onus to strongly disprove that or go to hell.

Katsumoto:
Excanny - get off my nuts; I don't do beef. You can engage others of persuasions .

Dude, quit crying like a paranoid little sissy. I've got no beef for you. I judge people based on what they post here. What you fail to disprove is if most of your posts are not in biafra-related issues. I'm not dictating to you where to post, but you cant fault the observation made about you.

^^^
What do you expect? That's how far his brains can think.

jaygetta:
Chei! I hate to get involved in this tribal ish most of u revel in. But look as Ojukwu been wan take style style turn Western Nigeria into Owerri Phase II! Lol. Failed on Arrival. Longthroat.

How? Do you have problems with comprehending simple statements. What did he say here?

Sharing.our belief that the
people of Yorubaland have a
right to live a life of equality and
self-respect and justice free of
domination and dictatorship
from any quarter

No wonder Banjo had a problem in understanding a letter that doesn't take you 15 minutes to read through. It seems it runs in your vein. Almajiris of the south.

udezue:
@Excanny, Ike Nwachukwu, Ukpabi Asika, Elechi Amadi were correct Igbo men who fought against us Biafra so shut up and quit pointing at the Ijaw all the time coz even we had our own Judases but due to your hatred and disdain for the Ijaw u can't think straight.

A rebuke coming from a brother. Well, accepted in good faith. But one thing I've learnt in life, bro, is not to throw my trust around.

So, jason, what's your point? We have the material now to analyse.

OJUKWU'S LETTER TO BANJO

From: The Military Governor,
Republic of Biafra Enugu,
22nd August, 1967.
My dear Victor,
1. For some time now, you and I
have been discussing the
circumstances that have led to
the current and inevitable
disintegration of what was the
Federation of Nigeria. We have
been fully convinced that the
aim of the Hausa/Fulani complex
has ever been, and will ever
remain, the total domination of
every other part of what was
known as the Federation of
Nigeria. It is impossible to forget
that the crisis which led to the
army take over in January 1966,
the coup of the Northern
soldiers led by Gowon in July
1966, the wholesale and
indiscriminate massacre of the
people of what is now Biafra-
and, to a less degree, the people
of the Mid-West and West,
including the Yorubas, were all
the direct result of Hausa/Fulani
attempt to subjugate and use as
tools, the gallant people of
Western Nigeria namely the
Yorubas. We do not need to
remind ourselves of the heavy
losses in life and property
suffered by the Yoruba people in
their fight for justice and
freedom during 1965.
2. Sharing.our belief that the
people of Yorubaland have a
right to live a life of equality and
self-respect and justice free of
domination and dictatorship
from any quarter, you have both
identified with the cause of the
Biafra struggle for survival and
expressed your determination to
see the people of Yorubaland
freed from Hausa/Fulani
domination.
We, the people of Biafra, for our
part are willing and have decided
to give you and the people of
Yorubaland every assistance to
achieve your aim.
3. After clearing the whole
question with my Executive
Council, I, as the Commander in
Chief of the Biafran Armed
Forces, have decided to place at
your disposal Biafran forces, for
the liberation of
Yorubaland on the following
clear conditions:-
(i) You will have nothing to do
with the Military Administrator in
the Mid-West Territory during
your sojourn there prior to your
move to the West.
(ii) The willingness and
preparedness of Biafra to assist
any part of the former
Federation of Nigeria wishing
and willing to liberate itself from
the Hausa/Fulani domination,
does not in anyway whatever
imply any inclination on her part
to compromise her sovereignty
or preserve what remains of the
defunct Federation of Nigeria. In
other words, our sovereignty and
break with Nigeria is irrevocable.
Nothing must, therefore be said
or done by you or any member
of the Liberation Army to give a
contrary impression.
(iii) Biafra is determined to
maintain and safeguard her
sovereignty and ensure that her
integrity and safety are never
again threatened.
(iv) Biafran troops will, after the
liberation of the Yorubaland,
remain in that territory only for
as long as we in Biafra consider it
necessary for the Yorubas to
consolidate their position and
sovereignty against any external
threat.
(v) On the liberation of the
Yorubaland, you will be
appointed as the Military
Governor of that territory.
(vi) The liberation of Western
Nigeria will be a prelude to the
liberation of all Yorubas up to
the River Niger and the
severance of all connections
between the West and the North
at Jebba.
(vii) During the period of
Biafrans troops’ presence in your
territory, all political measures,
statements or decrees shall be
subject to the approval, in
writing by myself or on my
authority.
(viii) Should our troops arrive
and liberate Lagos, the
government of the Republic of
Biafra reserves the right to
appoint a Military administrator
for the territory. Such an
Administrator  will remain in
office until a merger of that
territory with Yorubaland is
effected by Biafran troops.
(ix) As soon as possible after
your appointment as the Military
Governor of Western Nigeria and
separation of that territory from
Nigeria, you and I must meet to
discuss:
(a)     the duration of stay of Biafran
troops in your territory;
(b)     the areas and subjects of
cooperation between the
liberated sovereign states of
Western Nigeria, or by what
name it may call itself, and
Biafra.
4. I do not need to remind you
that Biafra regards all Yoruba as
friends. As such everything
should be done, to ensure the
minimum force and loss of life
are involved in achieving the
objective of liberation.
5. It is essential, in order to avoid
misunderstanding or confusion,
that all subsequent requests for
support be formally made to me
by you in writing.
6. Will you please signify in
writing, your acceptance of the
above conditions so that you
may leave for Western Nigeria
and lead the army of liberation.
Yours very sincerely,
signed Lt. Col. Odumegwu
Ojukwu,
Military Governor and
Commander in Chief of Biafran
Armed Forces.

www.dawodu.com/biafra1.htm

jason12345:
@ vicenco

Did you read ojukwu's letter to the west?

What's in the letter that's hard for you to understand?

jamace:
Hmnnn. Is GEJ safe? I'm skeptical about this sudden loyalty. God, may this not be a Judas mission.

^^^lol.

ndu_chucks:
@Cap28, continue to wallow in your self defeating hatred - that's your cup of tea. Additionally, refrain from using moronic analogies in an attempt to sound intelligent - it makes you appear more like what my Yoruba brothers call didinrin. 

You analogize that "if armed robbers came to your house - r.aped  your wife, slaughtered your children  and burnt down your house and then turned around and offered you a ride in their car you would jump in counting yourself lucky for bagging a ride from them ?" You conveniently forgot to include the important detail that you and your relatives killed the reverred leaders of your so-called armed robbers without provocation, before the armed robber decided to revenge.

We certainly don't need Igbos that reason like you in Nigeria, please remain in diaspora if that is where you are. Most Igbos that one meets from Lagos to Abuja to Sakwato, do not exhibit the kinds of moronic thoughts you continue to spew on these pages.  You must be one of those dan daudu internet warriors who are completely toothless. Olodo, rakumin dajij.

^^^ And no igbo gives a bleep about you either. Ewu ikameka.

@Katsumoto

The tactic deployed by sending Banjo to Lagos to capture Gowon could have changed the tide of the war, but he screwed up by invading the Midwest, and spending unnecessary time arguing back and forth with Ojukwu. Finally, when he decided to continued, he got to Ore and started negotiating cowardly with Obasanjo.

He also lost 40 miles of territory without a fight. Banjo was part of the problem why the Nigerian side gained an early upper hand over Biafra.

Onlytruth:
@excanny

Let me begin with our point of agreement, which is that Ndigbo are big enough and do not need to beg anyone for presidency. I have argued on this site that we don't need the north to win Nigeria's presidency. By that, I mean block northern support. I believe that we have underestimated our population and political reach in Nigeria. So, I don't think that seconding a northerner next year is our ONLY way to the presidency. That is underestimating our power if we work at it.

We support Jonathan because he has committed himself in more ways than one to bringing solid dividends of democracy to Igboland. He has already made a few bold moves, but I don't expect him to do more before the elections. He is from Bayelsa state (a minority state) remember? And elections is around the corner. You mentioned projects that have been approved since 2003, but failed to answer why the projects never took off.
Please use your tongue to count your teeth.

2015 is still fair game, and we can still pursue it with vigor since zoning would be gone by then.
Do you think that the north or any other region can parade more presidential materials than Ndigbo? Of course not!
Nigeria is changing and I really think that after Jonathan, everything will not be that same again.

I want to win the presidency squarely. I don't want it handed over to me by the north, 'cos then, it'd be useless.

Yes, I quite agree. In 2015, Ndigbo might be the people to beat if the likes of Uwechue dont eat their words. Remember he said it would be SS to SE transition.

What Ndigbo need to do in the meantime is to build their political pedigree to enable them contest on a national level. Let's start rallying around that point, grab our destiny in our own hands, and stop looking out for handouts.

Blazay:
Please, be truthful.
Igbos and Biafra SOLELY set the tone of distrust and acrimony in Nigerian history by preempting the first civil war in Nigerian history.
Subsequently, their oafish arrogance cannot let other Nigerians forget the insult.

[b]Prior to the Nigerian civil war, the Northerners were peaceful creatures [/b]till the Igbos reared their greedy, ugly yam-like heads.
Till today, all they go about doing is beating their not-so-smart chests to be this and that.
Useless, cold blooded killers.
Now we have a place like Abia state with Aba as the headquarters of Kidnapping ventures according to your own Igbo sister Dr. Okonjo-Iwaela.
After shedding all that useless Biafra blood as rejected Osu sacrifices on behalf of Nigeria.

They should not blame anyone but themselves for the innocent Igbos that were killed on behalf of their stoopid actions that all started in 1966.

If they were so noble in their intentions, why did they not let the Northerners in, if indeed they wanted to cleanse Nigeria of corruption?

Blazay:
So, riots in the North as far back as in the 50's caused the Nigerian civil war?
We still have the riots till today not so?
What has changed?

Of course no civilians were to blame for the war. . .but what did you expect?
The Igbos within the Nigerian army started all that BS.
Why did you not include the Northerners if your intentions were noble huh?

Sorry dude. I don't care about your riots in the North. . .which were purely as a result of the total breakdown of law and order in the overall Nigerian psyche.

What we are talking about here is the treason orchestrated and perpetrated by the Igbos against the integrity of Nigeria on account of their own selfish desires. At least the Northerners carried out their mayhem in their own territories. . . why did you not retaliate on the Northerners in your on Western and Eastern territories? Instead of plunging the whole Nigerian state into confusion with your rettarded haphazard plans?

It's hilarious how you contradict yourself in a space of 5 minutes.

Your knowledge of history is as warped as that of a fourth grader. Maybe you also need to take the advice I gave earlier to someone in the same boat as you: You need to attend an adult class.

@Aloy Emeka
So in your honest opinion you think that why there's so many Almajiris in the North is because they have held on to power for 38 years?

Whether the North ruled or not has nothing to do with Almajiris. FYI, that social menace is somehow linked with religion. Many of them believe they were born to be beggars and Almajiris.

So i dont get the correlation in your argument.

It's unfortunate that some of our Igbo brothers seem to be falling in line with the way our mockers want us to exist.

PLEASE stop putting up that cheap shot at publicity of an international airport as a reason to support Jonathan. He did nothing extraordinary. The plans to expand that airport had been signed and sealed, as far back as 2003, only awaiting the release of funds to deliver it. Within the short spell that Jonathan has had so far, the SS, specifically bayelsa, has got 2 federal projects. Yet, we are having heavenly feelings over just one approval of an already existing project in the SE. This is really annoying!

For some of us who keep asking why Igbos want to lose sleep over the presidency, I'll ask you this question: Why is the North losing sleep, forming all sorts of consensus committtee and vehemently scheming various plans to get their own a person of northern extraction into Aso villa?

This is where the difference lies between those who call the shots and those who unconsciously consider themselves what their mockers want them to be(i.e second-class citizens).

For the sake of our dignity, let's stop underestimating ourselves.

chyz:
Well then i guess it's bye-bye presidency aint it?

You honestly think so?

It's not yet uhuru though for johnny boy.

Nothing stops Ndigbo from producing a President anytime soon.

The best thing that would happen to Ndigbo is if they stay away from this entity called Good luck Jonathan. A man who has consistently avoided giving his word is not the kind of person to be trusted.

He finds it difficult to tell Igbos his programmes, but was quick to tell the northerners he will be handing over power to them in 2015, yet he doesn't believe in zoning.

Who is fooling who? The only persons he can deceive in Igboland are Uwechue and his likes.

I'll rather give my vote to Saraki.

bk.babe97y:
A bloody letter "C", and all a sudden this Ibo Gorilla prides himself as Hemmingway!

You that cant compose a proper sentence to save your life!

Dude, read my last twenty posts, then read urs. . . . . which has the most grammatical blunders?!

Fool. It's redundant to add an exclamation mark after a question mark. Mumu.

Take my advice, and start a night school! Your case is pathetic.

^^^
You are a bloody slave. And who are you to think you understand the English Language better than I do? Fool.

baby.me:
Na wao. Teach the dog how to do business too.That way he will be a proper Igbo man dog

baby.me:
Na wao. Teach the dog how to do business too.That way he will be a proper Igbo man dog

lol. igbo dogs are not poor. They have business skills too.

Inked_Nerd:

lol, ok o. Make I borrow am when you finish.

Excanny, sorry I don't want to seem nosy but I was wondering, do you live in Nigeria? If so, what part?

Yes, i live in Nigeria. In Abuja at the moment, but did most of growing up/schooling in Lagos. @post. I'll love to see translations from other clans too, to beat the ones given. I think they are quite short and one-word commands though.

ChinenyeN:
Excanny, where are you from, if you don't mind me asking?

I thought you knew, ChinenyeN. A bu nwafor ngwa. My Igbo is average though. My old folks did a not-too-good job on me.

@Chukwudi01

The translations i gave were Ngwa variants. I guessed you should be speaking a southern Igbo dialect(Imo and Abia) from the examples you gave yourself which i felt would be closer to my dialect.

alj harem:
@op

thanks for this post, we igbos are great people, and also wonderful in our thoughs unl.ke other

thank again

You want claim better thing. Who dash you Igbo?

You are not Igbo, my friend.

I think you are better suited being an Ewu Awusa/Desert rat.

Onlytruth:
Hmm. This OP dude is highly educated.

I'm really impressed by his depth.

It's not original.

Inked_Nerd:
lol this is a funny thread

Hi excanny. How ya been?

Hi, Inky. I couldn't be better. You? Is your dog Igbo?

@chukwudi01

Dude, never mind me. Was only joking.

Sit-Noruo (odo)

Lay down-Jaruo

Stay-Noji

Fetch-Ga weta

Shake hand-Naka

*My spellings are not 100% correct, I hope you get the gist*

chyz:
What does yorubas have to do with u Mr."Kanuri"?

Dont mind the Ewu Awusa Kanuri

I guess that his attempt to bleep yorubas' backside by his recent 'compliments' didn't turn out well. lol

bk.babe97y:
If u didnt pull the s[b]c[/b]henanigans u did in Jan.1966 thered have been no reason for the "genocidal killing of innocent igbo families"!!!!!

If only you could use half of the time you spent on this forum to attend a night school, you'd had known how to spell better.  Were the 'innocent igbo families' the ones who pulled the shenanigans?

Dude, i understand your enthusiasm for igbo affairs, but i must admit i find many of your threads too crude and irritating. I know you are new, and with time, you'll get more subtle.