Phemmmy: IF WE DON'T DEVELOPE OUR OWN COMPLILERS THEN WE WILL ALWAYS BE TRYING TO MEET UP THE EXISTING ONES. WHICH I DON'T SEE FEASIBLE.
Please could you further expatiate on this for the benefit of others; I am of the opinion that this could be the final step to actually owning the whole software chain.
I agree with you that "western education cannot be easily applied to African problems . , because it is based on European culture". My fear though is that education itself is based on European culture. So is religion, morality the list goes on. I think we just just have to accept it because the world is more eurocentric that we realise.
I want first to let you know that you are one of the people I most respect here and I probably should not even have responded on your post like that. So let me beg your forgiveness on that. It cannot nonetheless be ignored because everything is pointing to a dangerous cresting soon.
In addition, if this move is Gej's, I find it very irritating that the President is using logical steps to rule an emotional issue. I very often disagree with some things he has done so far but he has his own style and though he has been in that executive position for two terms now (first as VP and now as Pres), his grip on national issues are dissapointing but I do believe that "while he was not the best candidate, people voted him in and as such we must respect him and repect his office. People voted on emotion and their expectations of him are tied to those emotions. So he needs to start responding emotionally to the people.
On SNC, do you know why its difficult to get it going? Ill tell you its because the Europeans have no model for it that we can copy.
Czhekoslovakia is the only Euro country that dissolved but it happened in bloodshed. Our own dissolution attempt with bloodsshed failed. N[b]ow we cannot find a safe model laid down by white man for us to use. Our academia has limits when it comes to application, goes to show we are good at copying and mimicking but incapable of originality. We want to amend constitution and experts in London and America are subnmitting ideas. Should we hate Boko for their push back on the encroachment of too much western ideologies? Is this civilization or self-enslavement? [/b] Thousands of people have died over the years because the balance of power is tipped away from South. If anyone ought to be upset and raising hell about the nonsense called Nigeria it ought to be a Southerner and not the Northerners. Yet we are at it every turn attempting to patch and make what is not workable go a few more years in hope that we will ultimateLy salvage it. While we are amending constitution that Hausas don't care about they are attending to what they care about and will benefit them - Sharia and islamic banking.
What will benefit us that we need to attend to in the South? I don't think its the constitution but I'm probably wrong.
Without doubt everyone in the country for the first time agree and spoke with one voice - we want SNC! The North want it, the West want it, the East want it. What are we waiting for?
I will be glad to share ideas on that topic if its opened.
Thank you sir!
Give this man a cigar!!!!
This is the story of that Landmass carved up in 1884/5. It only takes an "oyibo" to recommend how to break and one will see the neocolonialists nodding their heads in agreement like its a new topic.
It will be a think tank basically. How well it goes depends on our concern for us as a people. And when the members of the mentioned list appear (how will you do this?) we can decide on where to "meet".
+ seems to me that we may be in different time zones?
NL is no place for things of this nature. Before going on, if you are genuinely interested, then we need to get other concerned/knowledgeable folks on this thread. We'll take it from there. . .
invite list: cap28 ROSSIKE cheikh katsumoto ola olabiy ShangoThor
ola olabiy: I don't know the solution. And, I mean it. I used to have solution(s). But, those have been applied (by some leaders/countries) but yielded nothing positive in the polity. Maybe scientists have to tell us. Besides, I don't think I am different from the said leaders.
There are very many solutions. But NL is not the place. First thing to do would be to get a think tank together. The likes of cap28, ROSSIKE, cheikh, katsumoto(sp?), yourself etc. and get together somehow. That's the first step towards our revo. . .
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dem_people: We're in the 21st century and since about 70% of Nigerians are youths, it goes to say that most of us (if not all of us) on nairaland are youths. With this, we need 21st century ideas to progress. Collectively, we could develop concrete ideas here on nairaland for the benefit and welfare of our people. We all agree that Igboland is a nation or, could be regarded as such.
Debatable Progressive Ideas:
1) I've been discussing with a few like-minds about the possibility of registering all Ndigbo - both in Nigeria and in diaspora - on a central database. There'll be a registration of births and deaths, just as it is done in developed countries.
2) Drastic decrease of abuse of important traditional titles in Igboland such as Ikemba, Dikedioramma, Dike Ndigbo ji-eje mba etc. Also, there should be a reorientation on use the word "Chief" as, this is not an Igbo name. We should endeavour to replace it with the name; Dike (which by the way, is a proper Igbo name similar to English version of being a knight (SIR). We should also make sure that people who are make Dike, are worthy sons of Igbo of which Ndigbo respect unlike nowadays that anyone with some cash to spare, could "buy-off" certain people in other to be titled. We need dignity and integrity to be associated with such titles and, the people whom have been privileged to bear them.
3) Completion of Asusu Igbo. It goes without saying that some Ndigbo (and they're rising), can't speak our beloved language. Infact, Alaigbo is a nation where foreign languages such as English, are "more sexy" to be spoken than the NATIVE asusu Igbo itself. This is a shame and indeed, a major sign of the ultimate demise of a nation - no matter where the nation is situated.
4) Major reorientation of Ndigbo. Again, just like the issue of our language, to say that our culture is fast becoming extinct, is stating the obvious.
Guys, I could go on and on. I've/we've got many ideas but, we need to start somewhere. Lets not fold our arms and expect Ohanaeze to do everything for us. We should be the changes that we seek. This is grassroot changes and mobilization at its best. We already have a thread here. Lets start these discussions.
I'm with you on this; been thinking about the points you raised as well. Not too comfortable with the location of this thread though. Could it be moved to the culture section? There's loads to discuss . . . .
Pharoh: Something will always trigger it, it might be the coming election or the next election, this miscreants might step out of line and it will lead to the explosion. Don't worry when the country explodes only the survivors will comeback to this thread and see the reality. The jos centre is still a flashing point you know, the niger-delta as well is still a flashing point. The east waiting to be president is there as well.
That's the thing. Its only on the net that news is taken quite seriously. The marketman/woman in Kogi is not in the least bothered about Jos or ND. What has happened this year that has not happened in yesteryears. The same response to all those "flash point" events then are the same now. These are the people who are key to real change. One has no choice but to be pessimistic (those who know what we all deserve). Power has always resided with the people to surmount any awkward situation like the one we find ourselves in now. We have just developed and honed the art of sidestepping problems of great magnitude even when its at our doorsteps.
Something to ponder about: The north and south protectorates were joined for the "convenience" of one person (and his cohorts). This is the same reason why the status quo is still what it is. Everything is structured for the benefit of few. The purewater seller aspires to be in a position where he/she could be part of these few or be in position to be "blessed" by those few. Even students and civil servants alike aspire (consciously or unconsciously) to that position where they could be among those few. This is the reason for their (not all but most of them) pursuits. As we speak Shell and all the multinationals are hosting the second and third generation of folks who worked there. As long as they get their "relatively" very high wages, everyone else goes to hell. Don't even mention that there are crooks or paupers in the immediate vicinity, resource control - ha, you're on your own.
An enlightened populace is the fundamental requirement for any change. Naija weep, 2011 is being portrayed as a year when things would come to a head, however with the current state of affairs, it seems all we should expect is a show of political violence and thuggery. After which the victor(s) carry on with the status quo.
I don't mean to dampen hopes, these are just honest observations since the 4th republic.
Pharoh: With all due respect we are a federal republic and the federal government do no have absolute right to control every resources found in Nigeria. Prior to the land use act and before the civil war, the regional governments controlled the resources found in their environment and paid taxes to the center. that is the idea solution and we must go back to that.
If the federal government has been controlling these resources for the benefit of all Nigerians then they have failed woefully and have no moral right to control it anymore. Their control has led to rapid decrease in our level of education, poverty is on the rise and unemployment is so widespread then ever before. They have failed to cater for the citizens and what we have every where now is corruption, love-peddlers, bandits, kidnappers and a dog eat dog situation in every aspect of our daily lives.
All our industries are collapsing every day, from the steel industries, to the textile industries, there are no groundnut pyramids anymore oil palm. where are the rubber plantations? where are the manufacturing companies. we do not have stable and affordable electricity, no access to clean water, shelter or a 21st century transportation system. we are lagging behind in technology and our competitive advantage is almost zero because we do not produce anything.
We are just a bleeping huge consumer economy that only has crude oil exploration to show, so the federal government has no right to control these resources. They are a huge failure and an immediate negotiation is the first step to the solution of our problems or the country will explode.
Can you or anyone for that matter list the precise steps or possible scenario in which the country will "explode"? Because the population thinks that everything is going fine. Just a few miscreants here and there. Theres no extent to which you would push the people to the wall: they would simply claw into even rocks to encourage you to push more.
Does the purewater seller know that he/she could do much better. Does the motorcycle man know his full rights. Even the police, do they know where their limits are and especially the conditions they ought to operate in.
No one is bothered as long as you don't steal the pot after draining the soup from it. Their only dream is to be put in position to do the same to others.